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OmniFocus for iPad now available on the App Store (hallelujah!)

by Linda Sharps on July 30, 2010

Oh, you guys. I am so glad I don't have to start this post with anything other than this news:

OmniFocus for iPad is now available on the App Store.

It took longer than we anticipated to get here, and we're sorry for the frustration. Reminder note to selves: it's definitely hard to predict exactly how long it will take to design and build something no one has designed and built before. 

Our development and UI team deserve a huge amount of praise for the long hours they put into getting this release together. Thanks to the documentation folks and the video team for chasing a moving target in order to provide some how-to info on day one. Shout-out to Ken Case, who tried his best to keep you all in the loop on our progress, even when it became increasingly difficult to do so.

I hope you enjoy this app as much as we do. With the new task Forecasts, Map, built-in reviewing, and an entirely redesigned interface, I think there's a lot to love. But don't take my word for it: visit the OmniFocus for iPad website to learn about the features. Watch the overview video to see it in action.  And, of course, grab your own copy at the App Store

Thanks for hanging in there, folks. We're eagerly awaiting your feedback. 

Comments

search only brings iphone app. i cant wait !

pancho

07.30.10 7:03 AM

Nothing yet… :(

Silly apple store - don’t you know that the GTD horde is going to come for you?

Don’t you know they threatened to shoot puppies?

C’mon Apple store - make our day!

egutin

07.30.10 7:04 AM

**BUT NOT IN THE UK***

Finally having followed this post for weeks without making any comment, I have had enough. Why not release it to the UK store at the same time? Almost guaranteed to annoy irritate and generally make unhappy loyal customers who surely deserve the same care and consideration as others

mark

Mark Brickley

07.30.10 7:05 AM

At the moment, my iteration of the Apple Store (U.S.) does NOT acknowledge the availability of the iPad app. The message is “Your request could not be completed. The item you’ve requested is not currently available in the US Store.”

Grrrr…

J Thompson

07.30.10 7:05 AM

The little lights aren’t twinkling, Clark

D B TUCKER

07.30.10 7:10 AM

It is really hard to decide what to do first, rush to App Store or leave this post…

So exciting..

G H

07.30.10 7:10 AM

BUT NOT IN THE SWISSSTORE

Forty

07.30.10 7:11 AM

Somebody at Apple forgot to DL and install OF, I think.  Hopefully s/he’ll wake up soon!

Dan Catlin

07.30.10 7:13 AM

@Mark - Don’t worry - it’s not showing up in the US store either. I guess it has to still propagate to all the iTunes AppStore servers first. A bit more waiting it seems!

/vjl/

Vince LaMonica

07.30.10 7:13 AM

Via Twitter: kcase
 
OmniFocus for iPad now is marked as available, but it may take a few minutes for that change to propagate through the App Store servers.

Duncan Babbage

07.30.10 7:15 AM

No luck with the Australian app store.. sure it’s not too far away.. UI looks interesting :)

Andrew

07.30.10 7:15 AM

We’re all waiting for it, people… the delay is probably that Apple’s servers only refresh the store at set intervals, so even though they’ve made it available, we have to hammer the snot out of the Apple servers until we see it :) Let’s bring that sucker to its knees!

Apple will learn how to handle OmniOutliner when it’s ready…

Steve Pye

07.30.10 7:16 AM

Not in the Canada store

dianelle

07.30.10 7:16 AM

Hi, so it is not available for App Store China???? So disappointed? Can somebody tell me why when all other Omni products are well available?

Eric

07.30.10 7:19 AM

Not in the German store yet.

Flex

07.30.10 7:19 AM

People chill the hell out.  It’s not available in any country yet. Apples servers have to refresh.  Geeeeze.

Josh

07.30.10 7:22 AM

Not in the Finnish store yet…

JMTee

07.30.10 7:25 AM

I can’t believe that there are so many people that are that this obsessed with omnifocus for ipad. Oh Bugger!, I am one of them. Shouldn’t go by time zone, Australia first.

Rob W

07.30.10 7:25 AM

Don’t tell me to chill out. Punk.

Paul

07.30.10 7:25 AM

@Josh: “People chill the hell out.”

Why? ;-)

JMTee

07.30.10 7:27 AM

Perhaps 30 minutes is the time it takes to up date apple servers.

jayson

07.30.10 7:28 AM

Some people need to relax and enjoy the irony of sitting at the computer or iPad, refreshing the iTunes store and waiting for… a productivity app to appear.

I love instant gratification too, but jeez louise, calm down a bit ;)

Tom

07.30.10 7:29 AM

It is not available in Russia!?

Andrey

07.30.10 7:30 AM

Refresh…refresh…

Tran Dam

07.30.10 7:32 AM

Is it available anywhere?  Has anyone been able to download it?

Michael Robinson

07.30.10 7:33 AM

AAAAAAAAA I can’t take it anymore! *jumps out the window, screaming hysterically*

Yo

07.30.10 7:34 AM

I doubt anyone who WAS able to download it is going to be paying attention to this thread. Rather, they are busy playing with it right now as the rest of us grind our teeth :)

Joshua Fritsch

07.30.10 7:35 AM

@Tom:

Funniest comment today.  Ha!  Now… something about work… interrupting my refreshing of the iTunes store…

Kevin

07.30.10 7:38 AM

@Ken
Come on and give us a update. What is going on?

@ Linda
I know the red bull ran a 9:00am someone go wake up Ken and give him another Red Bull and tell him whats going on.

jayson

07.30.10 7:42 AM

That looks, beautiful. Just sadly, Omnifocus has never really been in my college kid price range :\

So excuse me while I drool.

Jack

07.30.10 7:46 AM

@ D B Tucker: Best. Comment. Ever! Thank you for making me laugh heartily while obsessing over OmniFocus for iPad. (Now if Bevery D’Angelo would just go flick that light switch in the garage to make the Apple servers update!)

Brett

07.30.10 7:46 AM

Yes! Got it!

Kurt

07.30.10 7:53 AM

Got it too in Belgium app store

Pieter

07.30.10 7:54 AM

Just bought it! It is now in the US Store!

/vjl/

Vince LaMonica

07.30.10 7:54 AM

Yes, it is in the Danish store now, looks really good, stated syncing..

Michael

07.30.10 7:55 AM

Not in the Spanish store… :-(((

Teo Marsal

07.30.10 7:55 AM

Woo hoo! Just got it in the US Store… so exciting!

Gary

07.30.10 7:55 AM

Belgium before the UK?! What is the world coming to!

:)

silas

07.30.10 7:55 AM

got it :D

dns

07.30.10 7:56 AM

What’s the price, people?

silas

07.30.10 7:56 AM

*Slurp*  (sound of money from my account to Omni’s)

Downloading now on my super-slow-come-on-go-faster-I-wanna-see-OF-now work network.

As a complete non-sequiter, does anyone remember when your work networks were faster than what you had at home?

Kevin

07.30.10 7:57 AM

Just got it from the Swiss store, for 44 CHF.

lenardgabor

07.30.10 7:58 AM

Hooray! Just hit the UK (£23.99)

silas

07.30.10 7:58 AM

39.99 us

jayson

07.30.10 7:59 AM

Just got it in the german store. 31,99 €.

thanks to all for the hard work :)

Stefan

07.30.10 7:59 AM

Got it! Love it”!!!

Seems to be well worth the forty bucks!

gevalim

07.30.10 7:59 AM

Quite a bargain. Great pricing

Renaud

07.30.10 8:00 AM

Omni:

Very, very nice.  At first blush, well worth $40.  This seems to be the kind of functionality that I was hoping for with the iPhone (clearly you were limited by screen real estate).  This’ll become my primary OF platform. 

Thanks!

Kevin

07.30.10 8:03 AM

I am LOVING the weekly review implementation! This is, in my opinion, a huge improvement over the desktop version. I’ve always fought the weekly review, but now I’m looking forward to it!

I’m going to do it right now… on the deck… without my laptop!

Gary

07.30.10 8:04 AM

Absolutely awesome.

Fastest sync ever. Beautiful UI.

Thanks so much OmniFolks!

dns

07.30.10 8:04 AM

Can’t believe I just spent another $40 for Omnifocus.  My wife is going to kill me, but I can’t help it, I’m addicted to Omni Group apps.

Rick

07.30.10 8:08 AM

Tom knocked the cover off that ball, to be sure :-)

Ken, maybe next time you should push the button an hour before H-Hour!

Bill

07.30.10 8:08 AM

Bought it. Love it.

DonEStephens

07.30.10 8:12 AM

@ WooHoo!

Gerry

07.30.10 8:17 AM

My god… it’s full of stars!

Dave Robeson

07.30.10 8:18 AM

Awesome well worth the wait and the price. You guys have done it again!

jayson

07.30.10 8:19 AM

Bought It… Love it! I would have paid more for it! A must buy for iPad owners!

Jim C.

07.30.10 8:19 AM

As a stand-alone application, the $40 price tag seems reasonable.

As an extension of the desktop version, $40 seems a bit steep.

I’m sure you guys struggled with that, but for someone who already has $100 invested in OmniFocus, I’m finding it a bit hard to swallow.

Congrats on the launch! I know a lot of hard work went into it.

Jacob

07.30.10 8:20 AM

in the macsparky review I notice some interesting buttons in the left column: Perspectives / Today / Professional focus / Clients / Clear.

How to activate these? What are they?

Pieter

07.30.10 8:21 AM

Now in the uk store I’m delighted to say.
many thanks the omni team

Mark Brickley

07.30.10 8:22 AM

After trying to use the iPhone version that was never fast enough to be usable, and constantly had synch issues. The $40 just rubbed me the wrong way… Can I return the iPhone version and get the credit towards the iPad version? Without a trial version (aka. “light” version I guess on the iTunes store) no way I’m spending $40 on something I may or may not be able to use…

$40 for a stand alone app is fine, and I get that this IS a standalone app… But I never asked for that and what I need is to be able to synch my desktop info to my iPad. Nothing else… Forcing this $40 app on me is just not cool… No discount, no bundle, no “read only” light version, no nothing…

Call me cheap if you want but I think you might just have lost me as a customer…

Yann

07.30.10 8:30 AM

So far, it looks really good. The jump from item details to context or project is a great thing, if subtle. The cool, rather abstracted look is fine with me.

mcogilvie

07.30.10 8:32 AM

> The jump from item details to context or project is a great thing, if subtle. The cool, rather abstracted look is fine with me.

This is actually a great deal for me! I miss it from the iPhone app and I miss a proper implementation from the Mac app (you have to use the Switch button).

lenardgabor

07.30.10 8:42 AM

Awesome. Worth the wait.

I LOVE the forecast feature! When can we have that on the desktop version? (You had to know that question was inevitable.)

judismith

07.30.10 8:43 AM

Now in the U.S. store

spsheridan

07.30.10 8:45 AM

Wow, I wish the desktop app was this good. Please consider adopting this UI for the desktop as well.

Shripriya

07.30.10 8:46 AM

It’s kinda pricey for today’s economy don’t you think? I mean, $40 US? I have both the Mac and iPhone app but there’s no way I am going to get this at $40. Sell 50 copies at $40 or sell 5000 copies at $2.99. You figure out which is the option.

Loyd Schutte

07.30.10 8:50 AM

On first blush…wow! It looks fantastic and I love some of the new features like forecast. As others have mentioned, this looks stronger than the desktop version (assume some of the features, like forecast, are on the agenda to be added to the DT version).

Great job Omni Group!

Scott Williams

07.30.10 9:05 AM

$40…Wow… You guys are mighty proud of your product. I’m of the same mind set as Loyd Schutte, were I too have both the Mac and iPhone app but will not shell out the $40 dollars for the iPad version as some of the sycophantic users on this blog have paid. A more realistic price point would have been $19.  As far as the Omni Group “struggling” over the price? Paaaalease… Why not have put on a special launch sale Omni Group? You have had lots of people eagerly waiting for this app and have delayed the launch from your original release date. Why not reward your loyal customers?

RedBone

07.30.10 9:10 AM

It is just awesome!!!

I got it all syncing wirelessly between my devices via Bluehost WebDisk - Mac, iPhone, iPad.

Great Job You Have Done, Omni Group!!!

Gary Hu

07.30.10 9:13 AM

$2.99? Get real. A powerful, functional app like this is definitely worth a premium price. However, I do echo the comments of others who, like me, have already invested $100 for Mac and iPhone iterations of Omnifocus… $40 seems a bit steep for yet another extension of the desktop app. If there only was a way to segment the pricing to acknowledge existing customers.

Earl Hoffert

07.30.10 9:13 AM

$40.  so, $140 for a feature rich check list on all devices.  yikes.  I now wish I would have just waited for the ipad and skipped the rest. as much as i want it, not sure i can do it.  :-(

Karen Gallagher

07.30.10 9:16 AM

Congratulations on the release. The app looks and feels fantastic. You’ve done a nice job of using the extra real estate while still maintaining the clean design of the original app.

This is a welcome update to my favorite “desert island” application.

Michael Nygard

07.30.10 9:18 AM

Yeah, seriously, good job on the app and all, I just don’t have that kind of money to throw around. :(

Billy Burns

07.30.10 9:28 AM

I wonder how long till it hits top 10 on the store.  Pushing the purchase button now. 
I like and agree with the tag line:  “Professional-Grade Personal Task Management” 

Now I just have to USE the Too ;)

Bob Fairbairn

07.30.10 9:31 AM

There are some ways to syn with Toodledo.
Thanks

Rafael Sanchis

07.30.10 9:36 AM

No doubt, I would love it but $40? As much as I have spent all the rest of it. Your biggest competitor is Cultured Code’s Thing and their iPad app is $19.99. Come on guys, maybe $25 or $30, but double?

Clay Williamson

07.30.10 9:37 AM

Don’t forget Todo for iPad as well at $4.99… I have a colleague that uses it and loves it… I may look in to that app.

Redbone

07.30.10 9:42 AM

Thanks for the release. Great app! OF is one of the reasons I bought an iPad. I’m sure it will be one of my most used apps.

With OF on the iPhone, iPad and Mac all syncing via the cloud, you have really implemented an excellent GTD solution that solves the nagging problem of universal capture (and universal reminder!). Congratulations.

There is, of course, a dark place in the world where universal capture is still unaccessible. I’m talking about Windows-land (and I guess Linux-land too). I remember a long time ago there were suggestions that a web-based OF or some other solution might be in the works for use by people who are not working on an Apple platform. Is this still on the road map?

Thanks again for another step forward with this great application.

Elliot

07.30.10 9:42 AM

Great job guys.

I have been watching the updates to the blog postings with amusement…

As for the pricing, I think it is spot on. The people who think you should give it away at half price are true cynics - they know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. We’d all like things to be free, but quality software takes time and care, and those hints take money…

Nice work and keep up the iPad development!

Nick Drouet

07.30.10 9:49 AM

Thanks for the release, I can’t wait to download. $40 might seem a lot on the surface but once I count how productive these tools make me it pays for itself pretty quick.

I’m excited for another great product from Omni! Thanks for the hard work.

JAson

07.30.10 9:53 AM

Thank you
It’s marvellous

Robert

07.30.10 9:56 AM

Great job on OF for the iPad! Looking forward to using all the new features! Way to go OmniGroup!!!

JP

07.30.10 10:00 AM

Hi,

The £23.99 does seem a little steep and has put me off purchasing this app that I’d been waiting for. I’m probably going to stick with Taska and Toodledo or wait for the RTM iPad client to come out. 

Does OmniFocus for the iPad have a webbased task entry route as I’d like to be able to enter tasks quick from my work PC rather than trying to use my iPad keyboard.

Are there any bulk import options for tasks from other sites?

rgds/alex

AlexE

07.30.10 10:00 AM

@Yann,

go read the Omni blog post about their 30-day return policy for iPad apps.

Bill

07.30.10 10:11 AM

Its very interesting to see the various viewpoints on pricing. OmniFocus is a different CLASS of task management app than Taska, Toodledo, etc. If those apps meet your needs, then they are clearly the right choice for you.

If, like so many others, you need a MUCH higher level of task management, then $40 is not a high price to pay for all that OmniGroup have packed into this next-level app. I hope I don’t come off as snobbish (I’m honestly not, really), but I value my time (and so does my employer) at much more than $40/hr. OF will save me countless hours (vs. other methods of task management), AND is my primary tool for keeping on track in my professional and personal life. If that isn’t worth $40 (or $140 for all platforms), then I don’t know what is.

I also appreciate the resources that have to be dedicated to customer support. OmniGroup have never disappointed in this area, and I’d much rather have a smaller user base (due to a higher price) that the OG Ninjas can support well, than a huge base of “casual” ($4.99) users clogging the support system.

And those folks saying “too expensive” AND asking for more features (web interface, RTM sync, etc)... classic. *rolls eyes*

Thanks OmniGroup! You’ve exceeded my expectations. Well done!

Gary

07.30.10 10:13 AM

Elliot: please look at http://www.spootnik.net/index.html
Just found out about this while visiting macsparky review of OF for iPad

Renaud

07.30.10 10:17 AM

Personally, I like the new icon sooo much better.  So far so good.  Thanks!

Pete

07.30.10 10:26 AM

Home run guys!  Great work.

Brandon

07.30.10 10:30 AM

It’s here, I have it, I love it.

So how about some updates on OmniOutliner and OmniPlan for iPad?

(What? Too soon?) ;)

Zach

07.30.10 11:11 AM

I waited like everyone else. I was shocked to find the price so high at $39.99. Surely you will make it $24.99, if at least for your customers who have already bought the other two platforms. I would have thought you would have published that discount today. And rhen there is a post on the front page that you will take care of us who purchased the iphone version. What does that mean? So confused…

Chad Miller

07.30.10 11:19 AM

Chad, if you bought the iPhone version between the introduction date of the iPad (April 3, 2010) and today, you can get a $25 iTunes Store gift card if you mail them a copy of your receipt.  See the details at http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnifocus-ipad/support/

Bill

07.30.10 11:35 AM

Discounts are be given? I thought the hard line was “no discounts, we can’t think of a way to do that, and our SW is so awesome why would we”.

Not sure why people who bought the iPhone app 3 months ago get a discount.  There are those of use who have been here since the beta making this product successful.

Sorry, I wasn’t one to whine about discounts until I saw that there was a plan in place to award late comers.

Is this because it’s thought that they mistakenly thought the iPhone version would be iPad compatible?  Awarded because they can’t read?

Re: Support:  Yes, the support is free, but I’ve only ever used it to report bugs. (and usually get them fixed)

Brandon

07.30.10 11:44 AM

Awesome product so far.
Fine price. I don’t really need the desktop version, and this is sooooo much better than the iphone version.

The interface is excellent. My only complaint is that I would prefer a + new action icon on the Project Headers. I only accidently figured out how to add an action directly to a project in multi project list by longpressing the header until the menu came up. That makes it take rather too long to add. Let’s just get a + icon already. My least favorite OF task is adding project and context item by item from the inbox.

Oh, the nested project multi list view UI is excellently designed. Folders look great, and the header scrolls elegantly to stay in view. Realky really nicely done there.

Mike Bennewitz

07.30.10 11:50 AM

Bizarre.

So the way I get $5 off OF iPad for being a dedicated customer is…

Have my wife buy OF iPhone $20
I buy OF iPad         $40

We’ve spent $60.  Then my wife gets $25 back, thus making OF iPad $35 for me and my wife gets an app she doesn’t want for free?

Oh wait, shit she doesn’t have an iPad.  Better go talk to my friends….

Brandon

07.30.10 11:51 AM

Downloaded and played around with the iPad app. Great interface. Seems very intuitive. With the credit for recent iPhone app buyers, the price point seems very reasonable.

Pratik

07.30.10 11:52 AM

Oh yeah, amd OFiPad Vs Things Vs Taska.

Both Things and Taska are ok. They got me into this GTD stuff, but they pale in comparison to OF.

Mike Bennewitz

07.30.10 11:52 AM

@Renaud
Thanks for the link to Spootnik. I have seen that before. It’s a bit of a kludgy hack. I’d rather something with the elegance that Omni would do if they made a web interface.
There was a web interface in the pre-Alpha Mac version of OF once upon a time, but it got dropped. I wish they would bring that back.

Elliot

07.30.10 11:55 AM

suppressing my posts about your dumb rebate?

WTF?

Brandon13

07.30.10 12:16 PM

Great Release!. easier on the eyes than even the desktop version. pricing is consistently high as expected for an omni product, but the value it provides does offset it.

Thanks for the work and the resultant great tool!

Doug

07.30.10 12:46 PM

Woohoo! Bought it, downloaded it, installed it, loving it!
Everything is working really smoothly and I was actually expecting more problems with a Day 1 release. Syncing is a dream and it co-ordinates the iPhone, Mac and iPad versions beautifully.

Dave

07.30.10 1:21 PM

Guy’s $39 for someone who has already bought on Mac as well as your other apps is not really nice or reasonable.. Should be $19.99 for those of us who own it for MAC.

I think I might try something else for IPAD and maybe Mac Too

Jeffreyh

07.30.10 1:24 PM

You know, I’m pretty happy with the price. A lot of people forget that there’s also a (what is it, 30/70, or 35/65?) price split with Apple, so Omni’s not getting the full cost of this themselves. And by the time you start adding the other apps to it… I don’t really see how that’s a factor. Each product can stand alone… you don’t have to sync, you don’t have to own one to use the other. The fact that I’ve invested in OF-Desktop already is really irrelevant… the iPad version sets a brand new precedent for the software, and has slicker functionality. We all spend money on software, and either love it or hate it, that’s just reality. The other choice is, we could be stuck in a Windows-only world, and buying crappy software at a ridiculous premium, and still be whining about it.

I can imagine that a lot of the people complaining about a $40 price tag, and wanting to see it at $25 wouldn’t really think twice about spending $2.99 five times on five different games. What’s the diff? If you’re using OF to its fullest, you should be earning money off it… managing your time and tasks well, and more than making up for the extra money you’re spending.

Think about it this way: if you think $40 is too much (and ignoring the fact that OG has to set the price right to make a living, and be at the right market price point, not just to satisfy whiny people), but you think that $25 is fair… then really, your problem is the $15 difference. Rather than complaining about it, why not try to find a way to use OF-iPad to earn you $15 in the next month? Challenge yourself—find a way to earn back the full $40 using OF… then it’s free. Personally, the fact that I can do task and project management on the fly while I’m sitting with a client can often be enough to land me a contract with them that’s worth a hundred times what I’m spending. It’s worth it.

Just challenge yourself…

Steve Pye

07.30.10 2:03 PM

Bros,

Been an OF user since it was a set of scripts from Kinkless to now on the iPhone 4 and don’t know what to do with $39.99 for another app when I’ve got it already on the iPhone. Please consider some sort of bundle or deal. Sure, the store doesn’t support that or whatever, but I really don’t expect the Omnigroup to presumably come up with some new features to justify and entirely new app. This is nice, but not motivating enough

http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnifocus-ipad/support/

Thanks

DL Byron

07.30.10 2:03 PM

Ken, Linda, et. al.,

$39?  No introductory price? Wow. Just want to let you know that I am reluctantly walking away now—more on principle than on price. There are too many good GTD apps out there that are WAY less expensive for me to pay that much after shelling out more money for OF products in the past than I have for scores of other apps…combined.

I am sincerely disappointed after this long of a wait. 

I wish you and your company well; I really do. But I will no longer be a customer.

Frank

07.30.10 2:07 PM

@Steve no need to defend their choices in pricing (you can extend that all day into the cost the spend on hosting this blog), sure, but the problem is the version on the iPhone works damn well so what’s so compelling to buy another app that does the same thing, but whizzier? That’s the software path the Adobe et al do to get you to upgrade just not something I’d except from Omni and if they can get it great, make money on it. I just don’t see the value. Seriously the iPad’s visuals wear out after a while and you can expect that with flipboard, which is the most elegant content scraping social book marker ever made, but at the end of the day it’s still a content scraper.

So OF for the iPad is still just a GTD app based on another GTD app—it’s not an entirely new app that does some new magical and revolutionary thing we’ve never seen before.

DL Byron

07.30.10 2:30 PM

Don’t listen to the whiners. Great job. Thanks for bringing it to us. This thing will pay for itself in my case.

Thoughtfaucet

07.30.10 3:18 PM

I have friends in mind to show OFiPad to, and they’d freak out if I showed them the desktop version. Freak out in a bad way. It’s intimidating. They’ll see this and get it. The desktop is irrelevant to them and they don’t have iPhones.

Mike Bennewitz

07.30.10 3:23 PM

@DL Byron… if you’re saying “what’s so compelling to buy another app that does the same thing, but whizzier” that just suggests to me that even if it had been the same price as the iPhone version, it’s still not compelling enough to you. I mean, if you’re happy with the version on the iPhone as you said, then really, what do you care if the iPad price is too high for your satisfaction? :/

For those who don’t like the price, just don’t buy it. If you want to take your business elsewhere, just do it. Read a book called “The Relational Enterprise” by Kenneth Carlton Cooper: one of his comments is effectively, why bother making pricing changes or offering refunds to satisfy a complaint, when the vast majority of users are not complaining, just because a person threatens to leave and go elsewhere? There will always be people that don’t like the price tag. I can guarantee that if OG had released it for $29, or $25, someone would be on here complaining that they aren’t getting a $5 discount for being an existing customer. People would still complain and leave.

While no company wants to lose customers, they also don’t want to spend every minute of every day nickel-and-diming with everybody until every single person is happy with the price. For every person complaining that $40 is too high… how many out there think it’s perfectly fair? Be thankful you don’t have to also spend $5 on gas driving to the store to buy it on a DVD any more.

How many of those of you who don’t think it’s fair, actually know what costs and labor go into developing software? Do you think those factors should have any bearing on the price, or do you think the price should be set by the people who don’t like it? If consumers controlled price tags, every company would be out of business because most consumers don’t understand the full cost of development.

Personally I’d rather see OG stay in business and lose 5% of their customers, than see the hard work of a team of developers go to pot to satisfy 5% of people complaining. Losing 5% of customers means that the best they could do to stay even would be to lower the price by 5%... in other words, $37.99 instead of $39.99. The only reason it’s worthwhile to drop it to $25 would be if 40% of customers threatened to leave. I’m not seeing it happening. I’m sure they aren’t either.

Steve Pye

07.30.10 4:09 PM

Nice to see it but I’m a wee bit shocked by the $40 price. I’ve purchased Omni Focus for Mac ($80) and Omni Focus for iPhone ($20). I’ve even purchased Omni Outliner.

It’s hard to spend another $40 for the added iPad integration. I understand making profit and recouping development and other costs but I I’ve reached a personal limit here. It seems that there should be some option for loyal purchasers. Plus, without a trial option it’s hard to know if I’d really use the iPad version.


Just my 2 cents.

Kevin Monahan

Kevin Monahan

07.30.10 4:23 PM

“For every person complaining that $40 is too high… how many out there think it’s perfectly fair?”

I think the price is fair.

Pratik

07.30.10 4:27 PM

@Kevin Monahan: Actually, the Omni Group does offer a trial version. You can get your money back within 30 days after purchase if you end up not liking it. And this is a seriously nice offer, since OG is not getting their money back from Apple, so this is pure customer service. Perhaps this helps with your decision.

rrklever

07.30.10 5:27 PM

@Gary

Hi Gary,

It is more that OmniFocus seems to be lacking a bit compared to the competition (but does have a nice UI and combines some of the good bits from other apps like GTD and locations). What seems to be missing is the universal access that is offered by syncing with a web app. With the RTM, Toodledo or Evernote sync found in other apps I get the ability to add tasks, thoughts and reminders from almost any platform as long as I can get at either the web or email. For me this means that although my iPhone or now more so my iPad is my go anywhere notepad, at my Microsoft based primary workplace, I can quickly enter tasks with a cut and paste or bookmark link and then know that they will be avaiable on what ever device I have with me.

I think it is this lack of ubiquitous task entry, the requirement to switch context, is what in my eyes makes OmniFocus seem a little lacking especially at more than twice the price of the competition.

Saying all that, Omni will get my money as I enjoy procrastinating by trying new task/time management apps.

Alex

AlexE

07.30.10 5:44 PM

@ Steve that’s correct and if Omni has a hit with this good for them. My opinion is about my concerns and choice and isn’t an attempt to persuade anyone else. I will say if Omni offered me an incentive, I’d do it. That’s also tied to how I use the iPad. It’s another device and not primary.

DL Byron

07.30.10 5:46 PM

I think the pricing is finel and I think the app is fab - more capable than I expecyed - I just whizzed around it doing a review and it was inspiring. Loving the font size btw, whatever others say.

Jon C

07.30.10 6:11 PM

@DL Byron ... that’s a very good point as well, that I think might be the biggest stumbling block for people: “...the iPad. It’s another device and not primary…” That I think is the big issue. For those who use it as a secondary device, they may see OF-iPad as an “add-on” to OF-Desktop. For those who see OF-iPad as “primary product”... the price is more than reasonable.

Difficult, for OG, is this: If OF-iPad were the only version available (no iPhone vsn, no Desktop vsn), then I think many people might agree that $50 or maybe even $60 for the product would be quite fair. (Sure, Things is cheaper, but it’s a different app, and it’s a “to each his own” philosophy at that point, just like how MS Office is a different product from iWork, but it’s all in what you’re looking for and want). But as a “companion product” it seems that people see $20 or $30 as being more reasonable.

There’s the conundrum: It might be worth as much as $60, or more reasonably $50, as a standalone. As a companion, between $20 and $30 is reasonable. What’s the average? Between 20 and 60, or 30 and 50, the average is $40. Since the App Store doesn’t provide a model of “purchase as a complementary app” vs “purchase as a standalone” OG is left with the difficult choice of simply choosing the average price of $40. Some people think it’s a rip off, others think they’re getting a deal. For me, I am using my iPad more than my desktop now, except for software development and photoshop usage. Everything else I do on the iPad. It’s a lifestyle choice I’ve made. I’d rather invest in iPad software now than desktop software.

One way OG could get around this would be to offer two versions: OF-iPad-Desktop-Companion product for, say, $25, which would have required sync capabilities. In other words, you can’t use the product unless you sync the database with OF-Desktop. (Seems weird to suggest that a feature enhancement should create a lower price, but bear with me…). Then offer OF-iPad-Standalone for $50 which cannot sync. Sound crazy? Perhaps… but if you want OF-iPad, and don’t have the desktop version, you’re getting really good software for a price that you may or may not like, but again, to each his own. If you have OF-Desktop, then you benefit from having the same software, but must use the sync capabilities for it to work, thereby ensuring that OG is selling the discounted version to existing OF-Desktop users only. Might be a way around Apple’s uni-price model.

Heck, they could even offer an in-app purchase.. if you buy the Desktop-Companion version for $25, but choose not to sync, you can upgrade to the non-syncing one for $25 to avoid the required syncing. Then, if someone decides to buy OF-Desktop, and they already have OF-iPad (which they paid $50 for) then OG offers them OF-Desktop for $25 less, since OG has control over that pricing directly.

Just a thought?

Steve Pye

07.30.10 6:19 PM

You guys are making a huge mistake. I’ve never used Omnifocus and can’t justify trying it on my iPad because of the $40 price tag. Quite simply if you priced it at $5, $10 or $15 you’d sell thousands more copies and make a lot more money, it’s as simple as that regardless of what your existing users say.

Richie

07.30.10 7:12 PM

“Quite simply if you priced it at $5, $10 or $15 you’d sell thousands more copies and make a lot more money, it’s as simple as that regardless of what your existing users say.”

How do you know this to be true?

Pratik

07.30.10 7:26 PM

Yay finally. Installed it today. It kicks ass. Only thing I miss from the full version is the ability to drag and drop actions and projects to merge them.

Wifi sync works flawlessly!

The sync options mention a new web based sync option in beta. What’s that all about?

Clint

07.30.10 8:21 PM

>Omnifocus and can’t justify trying it on my iPad because of the $40 price tag.

They offer a money back guarantee for 30 days. 

I am amazed at how much I’ve resisted buying it even knowing that I can easily try it for 4 weeks to see if I like it - to see if I can justify it.

All of us with ipads can afford it - almost by definition of owning a luxury item tablet computer. 

I’ll get it tomorrow so I don’t keep myself up fiddling tonight. If it isn’t the shit, i’ll get my money back. Pretty risk free.

I’m more annoyed with the silly $5 loophole created today with the OF iPhone rebates than the $40.

Brandon

07.30.10 9:36 PM

Can’t speak for anyone else, but I was expecting to
spend about the same as OF-desktop on the simple grounds
that the iPad version (UI improvements aside) is much
closer in functionality/useability to the desktop
version, and the iPad is another computer/platform. 

For me, USD$40 is a pleasant surprise, and given
the quality of OmniGroup’s product range and support
[and knowing just a little about software dev :-)],
paying half the price of the desktop version is
amazingly good value.

Mike Cee

07.30.10 10:28 PM

Brandon, I’m really sorry that the reimbursements left you feeling like we didn’t care about you; we didn’t intend to make folks feel that way. Whenever possible, we want customers to feel good about us and the products they purchase from us. We know we’ll never reach 100% customer satisfaction, but we’re going to try to get as close to that mark as we possibly can.

I’m hoping it’ll help to clarify the reasoning behind the purchase reimbursements we’re doing. They aren’t meant as a sales gimmick or a “new customer discount”. In fact, it’s not a discount at all; we’re reimbursing the purchases a specific group of customers made. Customers with iPads but no iPhone. (Will some folks with both devices take advantage of this program? Probably. Don’t like it, wish they wouldn’t, but hey, them’s the breaks.)

Why? So they can buy the product they really wanted - OmniFocus for iPad - without paying the extra cost of the iPhone product they were using temporarily.

Ideally, all of our applications would have been available on iPad launch day, but our team is not big enough to do that. When we decided that OmniFocus for iPad wouldn’t be available at iPad launch day, part of the reason we did that was because the option of using the iPhone app on the device was there.

Now that the iPad application is ready, iPad-only customers can use either product. Customers with both devices can either buy both products, or use the iPhone application on both. And if someone wants to use the iPhone app on their iPad to save some money, they should have that option. That’s great.

What we didn’t want was to collect *extra* money from someone that was willing to wait for us to finish the iPad application and use the iPhone one in the meantime. We want those folks to spend the same amount as everyone else that chooses to buy OmniFocus for iPad.

Brian

07.30.10 10:42 PM

I think another thing that caused confusion was that we were originally planning to reimburse with iTunes gift cards, which only come in $15 and $25 varieties. Since there was no perfect option, we chose the latter, but it’s clear that made some folks feel even more left out.

Between that issue and the problems with getting international purchasers gift cards in the right currency, we switched to a plan where folks can have their purchase reimbursed via a mailed check maid, a Paypal transfer, or credit on our store.

It wasn’t communicated well, and I take personal responsibility for that. It was and is well-intentioned, though, so I’m doubly sorry it left a bad taste in your mouth.

Brian

07.30.10 10:57 PM

Brian,

I sincerely would like to know why you chose not to offer an introductory price to reward those who have already spent so much on your products?

Frank

07.30.10 11:50 PM

Does nobody think that almost every app in the app store is part of a model that includes free unlimited upgrades, actually is a reward for us? I’ve spent more in a grocery store in two weeks to feed my family than I’ve had to spend on omni products, and i have them all, except graph sketcher. Why do so many people feel it so necessary to complain so much about this? Do you do the same thing at Meijer, or Target, or Walmart? Do you complain at gas stations every three days? A tank of gas in Canada in a crummy Pontiac grand am is more than omni focus…. And i only get to use that gas for a week. Seriously people…. Suck it up.

Steve Pye

07.31.10 12:02 AM

Frank, time-limited sales make one group of people - the ones that get the discount - happy. Unfortunately, there’s another group - the people that don’t - who end up unhappy that they missed out. The longer your application is around, the larger that second group gets: folks hear that there was a sale and someone else paid less than they did. (Brandon’s concerns today would be a slightly different example of this sort of situation.)

Worse, people don’t end up in either group on the basis of loyalty - folks who hear about the sale and buy get it. Folks on trips, without ‘net access, who were busy, or who just plain forgot are left out and feel bad.

We have some of the best customers anywhere and we really appreciate them - but we would prefer to earn our customers’ loyalty with great applications, fair treatment, and top-notch support. We feel those are far more valuable in the long run.

Brian

07.31.10 12:35 AM

Where does it say that Brandon, I don’t see any mention of a 30 day trial period for the iPad version, that would make a big difference how does this work?

Richie

07.31.10 1:51 AM

Brian,

I love omnigraffle and would purchase this too (even though I already have ToDo which is a pretty good app for my needs) if the app was universal for £24.

I can sort of see why this is difficult with the iPhone version already released and a bunch of customers that might then expect to get the iPhone version as a free upgrade.  I wish there was a way around this as I’ve read all the posts here and really want to purchase but I need both iphone and ipad to enable me to capture tasks conveniently and I don’t want to spend another £36 (£24 for iPad +£12 for iPhone) to switch. I would probably spend £30 if I had a universal option?

Barry

07.31.10 2:00 AM

Hi

Nice - it’s out!

I use all three versions (aka Mac, iPhone & iPad). The whole thing with OmniFocus and GTD is great.

Some feedback:

1. New features from the iPad client Su as Forecast - will they be avail in the other (Mac/iPhone?)

2. To be honest - for my taste I thing the GUI is to far from each other in the three different versions. I know…. but still

Ola Strangeways

07.31.10 3:59 AM

@Brian

Thanks for the explanation. Sorry to admonish you guys for trying to do the right thing. The money doesn’t really bother me.  I’m not sure why, but the day long $5 loophole bothered me. I couldn’t be bothered to jump through that hoop.

@Richie

Hmm. I can’t find that clause in the OmniFocus iPad app description either now that you mention it. You will see it mentioned in the OmniGraffle app description that Omni offers a 30 day money back guarantee on _all_ their apps, so it should apply to OF iPad too.

Maybe Omni can confirm here.

Brandon

07.31.10 5:19 AM

Brandon, Richie, there is a post on this blog that states the policy applies to all of the Omni apps.

http://www.omnigroup.com/blog/entry/30_day_guarantee/

Bill

07.31.10 5:59 AM

Got it yesterday afternoon. I can already tell that OF for my Mac and iPhone will see little use from here on out. Love the new Forecast feature.

I have no problem with the price or lack of introductory pricing. When I work hard, I am entitled to be paid for my efforts. When OmniGroup works hard, they are entitled to be paid for their efforts. We, on the other hand, are not *entitled* to any discounts. OmniGroup has to pay its employees, and the employees can’t buy groceries with our goodwill. :-)

Bill Wilson

07.31.10 6:10 AM

OmniFocus really worth every single penny!
I have it on my iMac, MacBookPro, iPhone and now iPad!
Greetings from Brazil!

Roberto I. Pereira

07.31.10 6:49 AM

Yep, guarantee applies to all our products. It’s not always possible to include that text in the App Store descriptions, but we will always honor it.

Brian

07.31.10 7:53 AM

Not cheap, but well worth it. This makes Things look really, really bad, sorry. For a 1.0-version this is wonderfully well rounded, almost nothing I miss or wish for except better integration with Mail and Safari usw - but this is mostly due to the fact that on iOS programms cannot really communicate with each other like on OS X.
I really hope that the sleeker UI, the forecast-Look (great!) and some other features make it to Omnifocus 2.0, which I look very much forward to.
Btw, it would be keen, if Omnifocus would kind of fuse with Omniplan. I use Merlin at the Moment, as it is more integrated (e.g. with Grand Total, iCal, etc), but like the simplicity of Omniplan. It would be keen to see Plan and Focus kind of grow together.
Keep up the great work, this was well worth the long wait—-

HD Schellnack

07.31.10 8:07 AM

The statement about the company methods and purposes on the Omni website speaks of good character.  The number of emails posted by its employees at four in the morning give witness to energy and dedication.  The excellence of the program demonstrates skill.  The success of Omni group seems no accident, nor undeserved.  One hopes they have more.  LA

larnn

07.31.10 9:42 AM

That was the best $40 I’ve spent on my iPad, and probably my most anxiously-awaited purchase since the ipad was announced. Die-hard user with all three versions. Way to go, OG!

Peter

07.31.10 10:20 AM

i cant sync via wifi!!! still on searching… and dropbox option is welcome… i’m disappointed.

mmsn

07.31.10 10:55 AM

I must say that I simply LOVE the new OF for iPad. It’s in depth, feature-rich, and can be used, if one desires, as a “stand alone” app. I was synced and “ready to go” in an instance—no problems whatsoever. I’m even one of those who really like the UI- everything is just large enough for me to avoid the difficulty I so often encounter using my iPad, of “hitting” the exact area of choice on the screen ( I felt the “need” to purchase a wireless keyboard in order to address this issue ‘in part’-*or, it could be, I just “wanted” another “toy”- ; )* ). The size of the list of tasks in the main screen is just large enough to ensure my “focus”- I can be so easily distracted from what it is I need to be giving my full attention.
As for price, I have to say that I think the one set is more than fair- and I happily paid in order that I might possess this better than high quality app. In considering the purchase price, to me, it not only covers the price of the app itself, but the guarantee of life-long tech support, an unending effort to keep the product updated, and prompt attention and action to address issues found and/or consumer requests and questions, etc. OG has a reputation for stellar customer service- and I factored this into the overall purchase price. You don’t find many companies these days that are as focused on their customers or on continuous quality improvement, rather than an overwhelming goal of “profit, profit, profit.”
Thank you, OG, for being “who” and “what” you are- I do so enjoy doing business with you!

Karen

MissKaren

07.31.10 11:26 AM

I’ll just add that the UI design, attention to detail, and usability for both OmniFocus and OmniGraffle are far ahead of most other iPad apps.  I think OmniGroup’s prices reflect their emerging role as a premiere iPad software developer.  Serious apps I think for getting serious work done :)

macfrankencow

07.31.10 11:39 AM

mmsn, I’m sorry you’re having trouble! If you email our support ninjas at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address), we can help.

Brian

07.31.10 12:33 PM

First off let me say that I like the result of your work and that I consider the wait worth it. Good integration, fast sync, overall very useful, the forecast/week-view is brilliant and very useful, means I save time by not having to check my calendar when planing meetings etc for the week and want to know what all I have on my plate. Takes about 15 minutes to learn it to a point where it can integrate into your daily workflow, everything well there. If I could snap my fingers and add one feature I would ask for an integrated calendar so you only need one app/do not have to switch.

About the price. It costs 40 Euros and for that you get a piece of software that, as far as I can tell after a day of using it, is properly coded, did not crash yet, does exactly what I want it to do, syncs with the desktop and iphone version. It can add due dates into your calendar so you have reminders with audio and everything. It saves me time and makes my life a lot easier (I am an attorney in a large law firm and the time that we charge our clients is not exactly cheap).

And that gets me to the point. People here who say that there are other GTD apps are of course correct. They are even cheaper. Things for example. If you are a student or want to manage your family, it will do a good job for you. Its more simplistic and does not have features that you, as a non-professional user, might not want to pay for. Nothing wrong in giving that a try.

I bought things. I used it for a little time. I uninstalled it. It does not sync via cloud/internet. It lacks essential features for people who use this as a business tool. Yes, I do have music on my iPad. But its mainly a tool to do my work more efficiently. And this software actually saves me time, it already did even though its saturday and I had to set it up. I would say I make decent money in my profession. If I save one hour of time, OF for iPad is absolutely free and I even make money from that. If you are in a profession that pays well or if your working hours are charged to your customer, this software is not at all expensive. If you are a poor student (don’t get me wrong, I once was a student too, obviously) then you might consider something else if the money is too much for you. But then again…properly planing your learning and research for just 40 bucks? I would invest that. I actually just did.

Ken (and everybody), good job. I like it. I think I invested my money well.

Now I am trying the OmniSync. Can any of you OF guys give me a bit of insight (can be via Email or such) into how it is compared to Mobile.Me, feature wise? Thank you.

Chris

Chris

07.31.10 2:19 PM

Chris, OmniSync should be indistinguishable feature-wise from MobileMe at this time, as far as syncing OmniFocus goes.  I have had no problems with it so far (started using it in mid-April).

Bill

07.31.10 2:53 PM

Thanks, Bill. If I have Mobile.Me right now (which I am also using for to sync contacts and calendars between mac, iphone and ipad), are there additional features/benefits from using OmniSync to sync OF?

Chris

07.31.10 3:16 PM

Oh, there’s some possibility it might be a little faster, depending on how/where you’re connected to the Internet, how many other people Apple has sharing your MobileMe server with you, and other unknown unknowns.  Or it might be slower.  Give it a try, but make sure you answer carefully when asked about which database to keep!  If in doubt, call the support ninjas.

Bill

07.31.10 3:37 PM

I see. I signed up for it, lets see how it works out, thanks :)

To the OmniCrew, if I may ask, in your last dispatch about that you said that outliner would come this summer, project this fall. Is that still the timeline?

Thanks,

Chris

Chris

07.31.10 4:23 PM

Great job. The way this app meets the opportunities and the challenges of the iPad should be studied by other developers. It is very elegant.

I just hope (as many others) that some of the ideas will be integrated into the mac version.

This app boost the value of my iPad significantly.

I really would appreciate a password option… my kids love my iPad too… and they delete things all the time…

The price is fine.

Kristoffer

07.31.10 4:35 PM

Kristoffer, a password could protect your data from prying eyes and little fingers doing things in OmniFocus, but I don’t think there is anything Omni can do to prevent your kids from erasing OmniFocus (and all of its data) from your iPad.  Make sure you sync every time you make some changes so that they’ll be backed up on your sync server!

Bill

07.31.10 4:51 PM

>>>You guys are making a huge mistake. I’ve never used Omnifocus and can’t justify trying it on my iPad because of the $40 price tag. Quite simply if you priced it at $5, $10 or $15 you’d sell thousands more copies and make a lot more money, it’s as simple as that regardless of what your existing users say.>>>

Well, that’s not exactly true.  That’s a common fallacy.

For instance, Hyundai might sell their Accent’s a lot more than MB’s E350 in sheer numbers, but that doesn’t mean their revenues are higher.

For instance, if you sell 10 Hyundai at $10,000, it would only take 2 E350 at $50,000 to match the revenue.  In fact, MB might have a higher profit margin.  Let’s say Hyundai makes $500 per car sold, then it’s $5000 profit, but if MB makes $10,000 for each car, then MB makes $20,000.

So, I would much rather have Omni sells fewer copies to serious buyers who want to use their product to fullest and have them provide quality support & upgrades than to have them sell to millions and do not provide quality support and upgrades in the future.

So, it comes down to our own individual choice whether to buy or not to buy.

Ken

08.01.10 5:46 AM

I really like it.  One thing that I cannot figure out.  Can I forward email from the iPad directly into omnifocus?

Dax

08.01.10 1:53 PM

Omni Crew (and Lotus too),

Nice job on the app. I was one of the diehards continuously refreshing the app store when it launched and can tell you that it was worth the wait and the price was not even a concern for me given how much Inner peace I get when I use OmniFocus to stay on track with my GTD habits.

Any experienced GTD-er knows that the hardest habit to integrate into practice is the weekly review thanks to your app I have much greater odds of being more consistent. I did my first weekly review on the iPad and it was truly awesome. The ability to review all of my projects while mobile is a huge help.

Thanks for once again putting out a well designed, useful and stable app.

Greg

08.01.10 10:02 PM

Since it’s been confirmed that Omni Group offers a 30 day money back guarantee on all versions including iPad, the price is no longer such a big deal and there’s no excuse for not trying it which I most certainly will do. I’ve never used Omnifocus before, I hope I like it as much as everyone here does!

Richie

08.02.10 5:06 AM

I have a question for the larger audience here.  I own an iPad but neither a Mac nor an iPhone.  I currently have a gtd solution I use on a windows box but would like to switch.  Based on what I am reading, it appears that without a Mac, I will have trouble doing anything other than typing my tasks directly.  Put another way - I can’t create tasks from e-mail or from web pages.

First, is the above true?  Secondly, if it is true, do you believe the the investment would be worthwhile?  Are any of you intending to function with OF this way.

Thanks for your insight.

Dave

David

08.02.10 6:22 PM

Dear David, you can create tasks from the iPad Safari browser by installing a simple plugin that is provided from within the iPad-OmniFocus app. It works like a bookmark and if you click it while visiting any website it will open OF and prompt you with the mask to enter a new task. In the notes field of this new task it will automatically enter a link to the site you were browsing. So essentially you can do this, create the task “update company website” and when you go back to the task it lets you click the link so you get where you felt the need to create the task.

As for Emails I am not sure. I did not find any such function yet and I guess it would mean to manipulate apple’s mail app which you will not be allowed to do. Maybe they found a way though, thats a question for somebody from the Omni staff.

I am using OF on my iPad since it came out. I own both the mac and iPhone version and I have to say that, even if you do not own any of those additional ones, the iPad version alone lets you organize and plan your tasks pretty well. I can recommend using it if you need a task solution.

Chris

08.03.10 1:37 AM

David, OmniFocus for iPad includes a “bookmarklet” you can tap in Safari to capture web pages into OmniFocus. Email’s a bit tougher - we have good tools for this on the Mac, but the iOS devices are missing a few parts that our solution is built on top of on the desktop. The approach we took on the Mac won’t work there.

Looking at the feedback so far, there’s definitely a lot of demand for email capture on the iPad. I don’t know what we’ll ultimately come up with, but this is on our radar screen.

Brian

08.03.10 9:30 AM

Thanks for the follow up Brian.  I think I’ll wait to see how the product matures on the iPad before I jump in.  Based on the feedback I’ve seen, people are definitely passionate about the product and I’m anxious to try it myself.

David

08.03.10 10:38 AM

I get it 5 minutes ago…it’s fantastic, better that mac’s omnifocus. A little question: when will be in other languages (like italian, for example :).
Expansive but really good.

Gianmarco

08.03.10 11:29 AM

I was initially enthused to hear about the release, but upon checking the iPad store, I see the decision has been made to price gouge us again with a AUD$48 application.

Given that I’ve already invested fairly heavily into OmniFocus with the iPhone and Desktop versions, a AUD$48 dig at my wallet feels extremely unreasonable just to get yet another copy of an application I already use so I don’t have to run it rescaled (or with massive black borders) on my iPad.

Whilst some people may be happy to empty their wallets into your pockets for a piece of software that can’t be trialled or refunded without insane amounts of drama, I simply will not.

Chris Collins

08.03.10 7:13 PM

Chris,

speaking of drama, just what is the “insane amount of drama” you think is required to get a refund from Omni?  Contrast and compare it with what you need to do to get a refund from some other vendor’s App Store purchase.

It isn’t just another copy of an application you already use, any more than a swimming pool is just a big bathtub.  If you think knocking out something like OmniFocus for iPad is a trifling exercise, try it yourself and let us know how it goes, okay?

If I have a contractor build me a custom home, and a year later he builds a similar custom home with many of the same features plus an extra bedroom or two for someone I know, would you expect that contractor to be willing to come back and tack on a few bedrooms for me for a small fraction of the original price?  After all, I’ve spent a lot of money on the original home, and the new one he just built (and mine after he puts on the addition) is a lot like the original home.  Yeah, he’s got to buy some more materials and hire workers, but he made a profit on the previous job for me, shouldn’t he be willing to do this one at cost?

If you don’t think the application doesn’t provide sufficient value to you for the price asked, you certainly are doing the rational thing by not purchasing it.  It often seems like there are two classes of people who complain about the price:

1) those who think there aren’t enough new features to justify the price
2) those who think they’ve paid enough already, no matter how extensive the feature list

Which do you identify with?  If #1, what sort of a feature list would you need to think it a reasonable deal?

Bill

08.04.10 12:57 AM

Hi,

In your blog, you asked for feedback.  I was looking forward to my iPad so that I could use Omnifocus and Stanza for reading books.

I am a bit suprised that the iPad version costs twice as much as the iphone version.  I was suprised that it was not a free upgrade from an iphone version to a “universal version”.  However I can reason out that people took the time to adapt it to the iPad.  So it should cost money.  However, I definitely do not think it is worth $39.99 since I already bought Omnifocus for my Mac (Now listed at $80 US) and my iPhone ($19.99 Australian ).

Maybe I don’t take full advantage of it.

I think I will try and use iPhone version even though iphone versions look bad on the iPad(IMHO).  They seem to render in iphone dimensions then scale up to iPad screen dimensions.  I guess this is why fonts look really bad around the edges (ie pixelated).

I hate to sound negative.  I like your software generally.

Regards,

Ben

PS How can I judge how good the app is on iPad?  Maybe it is so much better but I cannot tell because I have to pay upfront.  Anyway I am likely to fall into camp #2 from Bill’s post: those who think they’ve paid enough already, no matter how extensive the feature list.

Ben

08.04.10 1:48 AM

@Bill You are right. Everybody has to make the choice if it is worth the money. But sometimes, when you depend on working on multiple devices and manage heavy tasks and multiple projects, you have no choice. You choose one solution, that maybe fits you the best, but then you have to pay a lot of money to get the same features on just another platform, because you choose this software. I know Apple does not allows other business models, but customers of Omnifocus for iPhone and the Mac can claim that this is a lot of money.

Sebastian

08.04.10 8:27 AM

@Bill:

I do think that there is another category of people.  People who don’t think adding features will make them buy the software.  They will look like #2 but because adding features will not bring them to purchase but really they want to pay money proportional to what features they use not how many features are in the product.  I guess the recourse for those people is to buy a different product.  I do not buy the argument that one should never reduce the price of a product, instead increase the value (ie add features).  I know other people feel the same way.  I find lots of non-techy people cannot understand the need to keep paying for new software with new versions with new features that they will never use.

The reason I brought this up is that it is the camp that I fit into.

Also,  I think the perception is that, since omnifocus iPhone just runs on the iPad adapting the already existing code to work on the iPad should be trivial.  I would never say that because I work in software development.  Some things that look trivial somehow are not.


Regards,

Ben

Ben

08.04.10 8:11 PM

@Ben: You can test the software by simply buying it (and paying upfront) since Omni Group offers a 30 day refund if you are not happy with what you bought. So its basically a fully featured test version for 30 days.

Chris

08.05.10 12:38 PM

I’ve run all three versions through their paces for a few days now. This is industrial strength stuff and is not for everyone, but I think I’m using many of the features and discovering more every day. I have tried so many of the task/list/project tools on the market, but all seem to fall short at some point. I swallowed hard at the cost, but in the end, I felt it was going to be worth it over the long haul. Great! Thanks.

Ed Hunter

08.05.10 2:50 PM

Count me as one of the folks who had been waiting for OF on the iPad for so long that my hair had start to hurt, but after a week of using it, I’ve got to say that it was well worth the wait…There’s a lot of software out there that adds features to look good on a features comparison chart, but your latest round of additions: forecast, reviews, omni sync are unbelievably precise and meaningful additions to how I work…

Well done guys!

ummm… when can we be expecting the review and forecast executions on the desktop :-)

TIm Kau

08.07.10 9:15 PM

This was the longest I have ever waited, in anticipation, for an app. OF team, it is a triumph! You have surpassed my expectations. I managed to get the app downloaded and synced minutes before going on leave for a week. I have been offline now for over a week on a narrowboat on the Ashby canal learning the app, so this is my first chance for feedback. It is truly brilliant. The best feature? A hard one, but I think the review function is what I would have to choose. It makes the weekly review so easy, and for the hardest part, and most important, part of the GTD process, you have removed further friction and created an amazing thing. 

Thanks!

baasshapshap

08.08.10 1:38 AM

@TIm Kau,

as welcome as the review functionality in OmniFocus for iPad is, it is a weak sister to what the desktop version already implements!  On the iPad, you can’t set the next review date, you can’t see the next review date, you can’t review in order of time since last review, and you can’t see the entire list of projects while doing the review, only the ones that are due for reviewing.

On the desktop, group by next review date and you can do all of these things (with a little help from the inspector, at times). 

Forecast view is great, and most welcome on the desktop.  I just wish it had the option to do a corresponding view by start date (a “tickler” view) instead of due date, or possibly a combined view, so you could get a richer understanding of just how busy those days really are.

Bill

08.08.10 10:08 PM

Please autorise me in beta server sync. Me very need))

Veronika

08.09.10 8:29 AM

App = Great (!!!)

Tutorial interface (http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnifocus-ipad/videos) on iPad = Just awful. Infuriating, in fact. But, just a little bug for you guys to fix. Ditch the layers and just put this on YouTube.

Craig Ritchie

08.09.10 12:01 PM

I’m exceptionally pleased with the iPad version of OmniFocus and, I have to say, walking through its functionality has helped me learn to use the desktop version of OF far more effectively.  Before this, it was mostly a way for me to replicate a grouped task list between my desktop and my iPhone.  Now I am doing a much better job reviewing my tasks and forecasting my work.

I’ve found a few bugs (small things like the occasional use of the wrong font color until you collapse a group and then re-expand it), but nothing major.  And I must agree with some posters that the layout is more compelling to me than the desktop, though the desktop has some additional features.

I’m happy with your products and, as their cost (even taken together) is less than most of the other software I use for my business, I have no complaints about pricing either.  Good job—please keep up the good work.

Kurt, in Japan

Kurt

08.10.10 6:44 AM

Too bad half of the comments on this blog post are about the pricing of the app because it’s great, well worth the money. I wanted a mobile GTD application and since the iPhone screen is a bit too small in my opinion to focus on for a longer time, i decided to wait for the iPad version.

It helped my a lot to get organised (and to stay focussed) and I don’t feel that I’m missing out on things because I don’t actually own the Mac version.

Good job, thanks !

ipadzone

08.11.10 4:58 AM

Loving OF on iPad, but I strongly agree with Mike Bennewitz, above. Adding tasks takes way too long. If you’re in a project, you should be able to quickly add new items, just like the desktop (or even iPhone) versions. That’s my biggest gripe so far. Otherwise, I’m very happy with the product. Well done!

Geoff

08.11.10 10:53 AM
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