From chuy at mac.com Sat Jul 26 21:35:35 2008 From: chuy at mac.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jes=FAs_A._Guzm=E1n_Bremer=22?=) Date: Sat Jul 26 21:35:40 2008 Subject: New Wonder Project with WOLips Message-ID: HI Im coming back to develop in WO s and since too many things changed and got depreciated in 2 years, I want to start a fresh new project I installed Eclipse 3.3 down from 3.4 since nothing worked, but trying to go trough the full installation, was not easy, since they don't mention completely current stable versions to use I have Leopard 10.5.4, latest WO that comes with the latest SDK i think is 5.4.2 (how to check version), Eclipse 3.3 WO Lips (installed from Eclipse) and Wonder "Wonder-latest-Applications-54" and finally mysql-5.0.51b-osx10.5-x86 Questions 1-Which Eclipse Europa Package is best a-Eclipse IDE for Java Developers (78 MB) b-Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (125 MB) 2-What available plug-ins are recommended -WO Lips server Apple Maven support Maven Support Profiling Support Scripting support Standard Install -Mylin ? 3-For MySQL GUI admin, what is recommended 4-Recommended preferences in eclipse and additional configurations needed to start with right foot. From what i read using "WO 5.4" is the way to go, any problems with WOnder?, is it currently using this?. 5-For creation of project should i start as WOnder Application or Maven WO App? There is a checkbox.."Link to wonder Projects".... how should this be set? 6-I will try to work with Ajax, any special recommendations on WO +Ajax, links to read (i saw the podcast already and they are good) Is there any work on integrating sproutcore or current AJAX in ProjectWonder is more mature 7-Is there any road map to when Eclipse Ganymede will be compatible? 8-My app needs to import data uploaded as fixed text files 12K lines at a time, I have been looking into ERAttachmentProcessors Looks like it can help, but i find little documentation on this, or how to configure it. thanks From lachlan.deck at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 22:29:49 2008 From: lachlan.deck at gmail.com (Lachlan Deck) Date: Sat Jul 26 22:29:57 2008 Subject: New Wonder Project with WOLips In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58960B58-B909-4E73-992D-F23D4725AB98@gmail.com> Hi there, first suggestion: you'll get more responses on the main mailing lists for WO. I'd pick either 'a' or 'b' to post your set up questions to and 'c' for Wonder related questions. a) webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com -- for general WO discussions b) woproject-dev@objectstyle.org -- for WOLips and woproject discussions c) wonder-disc@lists.sourceforge.net -- for wonder stuff On 27/07/2008, at 2:35 PM, Jes?s A. Guzm?n Bremer wrote: > Im coming back to develop in WO s and since too many things changed > and got depreciated in 2 years, I want to start a fresh new project Lots of changes indeed. > I installed Eclipse 3.3 down from 3.4 since nothing worked, Only the nightly WOLips builds AFAIK work with 3.4 at the moment. Stable works with 3.3. > but trying to go trough the full installation, was not easy, since > they don't mention completely current stable versions to use Not sure what you mean. It just depends on the WOLips update site you use. http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Tutorials --> Install WOLips with Eclipse Update Manager > I have Leopard 10.5.4, latest WO that comes with the latest SDK i > think is 5.4.2 (how to check version), Eclipse 3.3 WO Lips > (installed from Eclipse) and Wonder "Wonder-latest-Applications-54" > and finally mysql-5.0.51b-osx10.5-x86 > > Questions > 1-Which Eclipse Europa Package is best > a-Eclipse IDE for Java Developers (78 MB) > b-Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (125 MB) I always download the J2EE one. Has pretty much most options needed. > 2-What available plug-ins are recommended > -WO Lips server > Apple Maven support > Maven Support Apple Maven -- optional: if you want to use maven (but requires you've also installed m2eclipse from Sonatype). Maven Support -- no. It's for maven vs1. Should be removed as an option I reckon. > Profiling Support Depends if you have the profiling > Scripting support Optional. Depends on having the Groovy plugin also installed. > Standard Install Yep, unticking the platform goodies not relevant. > -Mylin ? Optional. > 3-For MySQL GUI admin, what is recommended There's a few options out there. CocoaMySQL, phpMyAdmin, etc. > 4-Recommended preferences in eclipse and additional configurations > needed to start with right foot. Have a look through the tutorials + ask any specific questions as they arise. Otherwise you should be able to get things up and running with the defaults. > From what i read using "WO 5.4" is the way to go, Some teething issues, but probably the way to go if starting from scratch. > any problems with WOnder?, is it currently using this?. It's definitely recommended. > 5-For creation of project should i start as WOnder Application or > Maven WO App? There is a checkbox.."Link to wonder Projects".... how > should this be set? This depends on what build system you prefer. Ant (the default) used by all options except for Maven which is the other choice. At this point in time ant is the most popular - with maven options being a more recent addition. (I'm personally using maven) > 6-I will try to work with Ajax, any special recommendations on WO > +Ajax, links to read (i saw the podcast already and they are good) Check out the Ajax framework in Wonder and the examples. > Is there any work on integrating sproutcore or current AJAX in > ProjectWonder is more mature Both Anjo and Mike have been working on (and committing to Wonder) Sproutcore framework and examples. > > 7-Is there any road map to when Eclipse Ganymede will be compatible? I'm using Ganymede. But you have to use a WOLips nightly which for some people is risky. I just pick and choose when to update. > 8-My app needs to import data uploaded as fixed text files 12K > lines at a time, I have been looking into ERAttachmentProcessors > Looks like it can help, but i find little documentation on this, or > how to configure it. Can't help you there. with regards, -- Lachlan Deck From chuy at mac.com Tue Jul 29 20:14:39 2008 From: chuy at mac.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jes=FAs_A._Guzm=E1n_Bremer=22?=) Date: Tue Jul 29 20:15:16 2008 Subject: New Wonder Project with WOLips In-Reply-To: <58960B58-B909-4E73-992D-F23D4725AB98@gmail.com> References: <58960B58-B909-4E73-992D-F23D4725AB98@gmail.com> Message-ID: <91A6AF60-C30A-4A1A-A07B-A638DD0A4C72@mac.com> Hi, I am trying to create an empty project buy this errors show up, I have "Wonder-latest-Frameworks-54" in the frame works from the main library Try to rebuild build path, but this frameworks don't show, tried reinstalling eclipse, with wolips bit still the same any help on what i have missing. On Jul 27, 2008, at 12:29 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote: > Hi there, > > first suggestion: you'll get more responses on the main mailing > lists for WO. I'd pick either 'a' or 'b' to post your set up > questions to and 'c' for Wonder related questions. > a) webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com -- for general WO discussions > b) woproject-dev@objectstyle.org -- for WOLips and woproject > discussions > c) wonder-disc@lists.sourceforge.net -- for wonder stuff > > On 27/07/2008, at 2:35 PM, Jes?s A. Guzm?n Bremer wrote: > >> Im coming back to develop in WO s and since too many things changed >> and got depreciated in 2 years, I want to start a fresh new project > > Lots of changes indeed. > >> I installed Eclipse 3.3 down from 3.4 since nothing worked, > > Only the nightly WOLips builds AFAIK work with 3.4 at the moment. > Stable works with 3.3. > >> but trying to go trough the full installation, was not easy, since >> they don't mention completely current stable versions to use > > Not sure what you mean. It just depends on the WOLips update site > you use. > http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Tutorials --> > Install WOLips with Eclipse Update Manager > >> I have Leopard 10.5.4, latest WO that comes with the latest SDK i >> think is 5.4.2 (how to check version), Eclipse 3.3 WO Lips >> (installed from Eclipse) and Wonder "Wonder-latest-Applications-54" >> and finally mysql-5.0.51b-osx10.5-x86 >> >> Questions >> 1-Which Eclipse Europa Package is best >> a-Eclipse IDE for Java Developers (78 MB) >> b-Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (125 MB) > > I always download the J2EE one. Has pretty much most options needed. > >> 2-What available plug-ins are recommended >> -WO Lips server >> Apple Maven support >> Maven Support > > Apple Maven -- optional: if you want to use maven (but requires > you've also installed m2eclipse from Sonatype). > Maven Support -- no. It's for maven vs1. Should be removed as an > option I reckon. > >> Profiling Support > > Depends if you have the profiling > >> Scripting support > > Optional. Depends on having the Groovy plugin also installed. > >> Standard Install > > Yep, unticking the platform goodies not relevant. > >> -Mylin ? > > Optional. > >> 3-For MySQL GUI admin, what is recommended > > There's a few options out there. CocoaMySQL, phpMyAdmin, etc. > >> 4-Recommended preferences in eclipse and additional configurations >> needed to start with right foot. > > Have a look through the tutorials + ask any specific questions as > they arise. Otherwise you should be able to get things up and > running with the defaults. > >> From what i read using "WO 5.4" is the way to go, > > Some teething issues, but probably the way to go if starting from > scratch. > >> any problems with WOnder?, is it currently using this?. > > It's definitely recommended. > >> 5-For creation of project should i start as WOnder Application or >> Maven WO App? There is a checkbox.."Link to wonder Projects".... >> how should this be set? > > This depends on what build system you prefer. Ant (the default) used > by all options except for Maven which is the other choice. At this > point in time ant is the most popular - with maven options being a > more recent addition. (I'm personally using maven) > >> 6-I will try to work with Ajax, any special recommendations on WO >> +Ajax, links to read (i saw the podcast already and they are good) > > Check out the Ajax framework in Wonder and the examples. > >> Is there any work on integrating sproutcore or current AJAX in >> ProjectWonder is more mature > > Both Anjo and Mike have been working on (and committing to Wonder) > Sproutcore framework and examples. > >> >> 7-Is there any road map to when Eclipse Ganymede will be compatible? > > I'm using Ganymede. But you have to use a WOLips nightly which for > some people is risky. I just pick and choose when to update. > >> 8-My app needs to import data uploaded as fixed text files 12K >> lines at a time, I have been looking into ERAttachmentProcessors >> Looks like it can help, but i find little documentation on this, or >> how to configure it. > > Can't help you there. > > with regards, > -- > > Lachlan Deck > > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-talk mailing list > WebObjects-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-talk From lachlan.deck at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 20:30:50 2008 From: lachlan.deck at gmail.com (Lachlan Deck) Date: Tue Jul 29 20:30:56 2008 Subject: New Wonder Project with WOLips In-Reply-To: <91A6AF60-C30A-4A1A-A07B-A638DD0A4C72@mac.com> References: <58960B58-B909-4E73-992D-F23D4725AB98@gmail.com> <91A6AF60-C30A-4A1A-A07B-A638DD0A4C72@mac.com> Message-ID: On 30/07/2008, at 1:14 PM, Jes?s A. Guzm?n Bremer wrote: > Hi, I am trying to create an empty project buy this errors show up, > I have "Wonder-latest-Frameworks-54" in the frame works from the > main library > Try to rebuild build path, but this frameworks don't show, tried > reinstalling eclipse, with wolips bit still the same > any help on what i have missing. Please join one of the below mailing lists... you'll get more help :-) > On Jul 27, 2008, at 12:29 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote: > >> first suggestion: you'll get more responses on the main mailing >> lists for WO. I'd pick either 'a' or 'b' to post your set up >> questions to and 'c' for Wonder related questions. >> a) webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com -- for general WO discussions >> b) woproject-dev@objectstyle.org -- for WOLips and woproject >> discussions >> c) wonder-disc@lists.sourceforge.net -- for wonder stuff >> >> On 27/07/2008, at 2:35 PM, Jes?s A. Guzm?n Bremer wrote: >> >>> Im coming back to develop in WO s and since too many things >>> changed and got depreciated in 2 years, I want to start a fresh >>> new project >> >> Lots of changes indeed. >> >>> I installed Eclipse 3.3 down from 3.4 since nothing worked, >> >> Only the nightly WOLips builds AFAIK work with 3.4 at the moment. >> Stable works with 3.3. >> >>> but trying to go trough the full installation, was not easy, since >>> they don't mention completely current stable versions to use >> >> Not sure what you mean. It just depends on the WOLips update site >> you use. >> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Tutorials --> >> Install WOLips with Eclipse Update Manager >> >>> I have Leopard 10.5.4, latest WO that comes with the latest SDK i >>> think is 5.4.2 (how to check version), Eclipse 3.3 WO Lips >>> (installed from Eclipse) and Wonder "Wonder-latest-Applications-54" >>> and finally mysql-5.0.51b-osx10.5-x86 >>> >>> Questions >>> 1-Which Eclipse Europa Package is best >>> a-Eclipse IDE for Java Developers (78 MB) >>> b-Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (125 MB) >> >> I always download the J2EE one. Has pretty much most options needed. >> >>> 2-What available plug-ins are recommended >>> -WO Lips server >>> Apple Maven support >>> Maven Support >> >> Apple Maven -- optional: if you want to use maven (but requires >> you've also installed m2eclipse from Sonatype). >> Maven Support -- no. It's for maven vs1. Should be removed as an >> option I reckon. >> >>> Profiling Support >> >> Depends if you have the profiling >> >>> Scripting support >> >> Optional. Depends on having the Groovy plugin also installed. >> >>> Standard Install >> >> Yep, unticking the platform goodies not relevant. >> >>> -Mylin ? >> >> Optional. >> >>> 3-For MySQL GUI admin, what is recommended >> >> There's a few options out there. CocoaMySQL, phpMyAdmin, etc. >> >>> 4-Recommended preferences in eclipse and additional >>> configurations needed to start with right foot. >> >> Have a look through the tutorials + ask any specific questions as >> they arise. Otherwise you should be able to get things up and >> running with the defaults. >> >>> From what i read using "WO 5.4" is the way to go, >> >> Some teething issues, but probably the way to go if starting from >> scratch. >> >>> any problems with WOnder?, is it currently using this?. >> >> It's definitely recommended. >> >>> 5-For creation of project should i start as WOnder Application or >>> Maven WO App? There is a checkbox.."Link to wonder Projects".... >>> how should this be set? >> >> This depends on what build system you prefer. Ant (the default) >> used by all options except for Maven which is the other choice. At >> this point in time ant is the most popular - with maven options >> being a more recent addition. (I'm personally using maven) >> >>> 6-I will try to work with Ajax, any special recommendations on WO >>> +Ajax, links to read (i saw the podcast already and they are good) >> >> Check out the Ajax framework in Wonder and the examples. >> >>> Is there any work on integrating sproutcore or current AJAX in >>> ProjectWonder is more mature >> >> Both Anjo and Mike have been working on (and committing to Wonder) >> Sproutcore framework and examples. >> >>> >>> 7-Is there any road map to when Eclipse Ganymede will be >>> compatible? >> >> I'm using Ganymede. But you have to use a WOLips nightly which for >> some people is risky. I just pick and choose when to update. >> >>> 8-My app needs to import data uploaded as fixed text files 12K >>> lines at a time, I have been looking into ERAttachmentProcessors >>> Looks like it can help, but i find little documentation on this, >>> or how to configure it. >> >> Can't help you there. >> >> with regards, >> -- >> >> Lachlan Deck >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WebObjects-talk mailing list >> WebObjects-talk@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-talk > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-talk mailing list > WebObjects-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-talk with regards, -- Lachlan Deck