From srundquist@desertsky.com Tue Jul 25 22:26:59 2000 Received: from dss1.desertsky.com (dss1.desertsky.com [208.157.218.98]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA21210 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WSPC105 (srundquistpc.desertsky.com [208.157.218.105]) by dss1.desertsky.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA15390 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:26:28 -0700 Message-ID: <002601bff6c1$87be7430$69da9dd0@WSPC105> From: "Shannon Rundquist" To: References: <200007260505.WAA19801@scyther.omnigroup.com> Subject: Re: [Moderator] WebObjects list is splitting into -dev, -admin, and -talk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Tue Jul 25 22:27:01 2000 Yeah!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Case" > WebObjects-related messages, just as you did before the split. To > modify your subscription for one of these lists (e.g. to > unsubscribe), either use its web interface (recommended) or send a > message to its e-mail interface with the word "help". Unsubscribing > from the list requires a password; if you don't know what your > password is, you can ask the web interface to mail it to you. Pretty easy to do from this link: http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects, go to the bottom and use Edit Options. Shannon From slrgcsa@tin.it Tue Jul 25 22:54:25 2000 Received: from firewall.ibn-italy.com (kipnip.ibn-italy.com [194.243.69.248]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA22284 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bart.tin.it (bart.ibn-italy.com [194.243.69.210]) by firewall.ibn-italy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20784 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:53:49 +0200 Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000726074322.0386a520@box.tin.it> X-Sender: slrgcsa@box.tin.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 To: From: Giulio Cesare Solaroli Subject: Re: Creating a SQL Count Statement In-Reply-To: <200007260216.VAA10871@kevin.singleentry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Tue Jul 25 22:54:28 2000 Hi, we have somehow integrated and extended snips of code taken from the list and ended up with our implementation of the following method: - (int)countObjectsForEntityNamed:(NSString *)entityName withQualifier:(EOQualifier *)qualifier usesDistinct:(BOOL)useDistinct; It is defined in an EOEditingContext catogory and work correctly also whene more entities are involved by the qualifier; the distinct parameter in very useful when the qualifier span a to-many relationship, as you can have the exact number of elements on the selected entity, instead of the simple count of the result set. Giulio Cesare Solaroli //----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - (int)countObjectsForEntityNamed:(NSString *)entityName withQualifier:(EOQualifier *)qualifier usesDistinct:(BOOL)useDistinct { // // This code is based on the content of the following message: // // Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:59:08 -0800 (PST) // Message-Id: <0a6e01bf83e5$7c26f2e0$784ab892@cm201.ccsi.canon.com> // Reply-To: rparada@mac.com // Sender: webobjects@omnigroup.com // From: "Ricardo J. Parada" // To: Multiple recipients of list // Subject: Re: A better way to count? // EOEntity *anEntity; EOAdaptor *adaptor; EODatabaseContext *context; EOAdaptorChannel *channel; EOSQLExpression *expression; NSDictionary *result; NSArray *resultKeys; EOAttribute *countAttribute; EOFetchSpecification *fs; NSString *countClause; id count; anEntity = [[EOModelGroup defaultGroup] entityNamed:entityName]; context = [EODatabaseContext registeredDatabaseContextForModel:[anEntity model] editingContext:self]; channel = [[context availableChannel] adaptorChannel]; adaptor = [[channel adaptorContext] adaptor]; countAttribute = [[EOAttribute alloc] init]; [countAttribute setName:@"_COUNT"]; [countAttribute setValueClassName:@"NSNumber"]; [countAttribute setValueType:@"i"]; [countAttribute setExternalType:@"NUMBER"]; [countAttribute setPrecision:7]; [countAttribute setAllowsNull:YES]; [anEntity addAttribute:countAttribute]; if (useDistinct) { NSString *primaryKeyAttributes; primaryKeyAttributes = [[[anEntity primaryKeyAttributes] valueForKey:@"columnName"] componentsJoinedByString:@"\", t0.\""]; countClause = [NSString stringWithFormat:@"count (distinct t0.\"%@\")", primaryKeyAttributes]; } else { countClause = @"count (*)"; } [countAttribute setDefinition:countClause]; qualifier = [qualifier schemaBasedQualifierWithRootEntity:anEntity]; fs = [EOFetchSpecification fetchSpecificationWithEntityName:entityName qualifier:qualifier sortOrderings:nil]; expression = [[adaptor expressionClass] selectStatementForAttributes:[NSArray arrayWithObject:countAttribute] lock:NO fetchSpecification:fs entity:anEntity]; if (![channel isOpen]) { [channel openChannel]; } [channel evaluateExpression:expression]; [channel setAttributesToFetch:[NSArray arrayWithObject:countAttribute]]; result = [channel fetchRowWithZone:NSDefaultMallocZone()]; [channel cancelFetch]; resultKeys = [result allKeys]; count = [result objectForKey:[resultKeys objectAtIndex:0]]; [anEntity removeAttribute:countAttribute]; [countAttribute release]; return [count intValue]; } //----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wob@mangoldpartner.ch Tue Jul 25 23:23:56 2000 Received: from mailhost.mangoldpartner.ch (mailhost.mangoldpartner.ch [212.40.11.4]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA23525 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 213.mangoldpartner.ch [212.40.11.213] by mailhost.mangoldpartner.ch; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:23:53 +0200 Message-ID: <007b01bff6c9$566f7e30$d50b28d4@mangoldpartner.ch> From: "michael -wo" To: "webobjects" , References: <4C256925.0074E76B.00@aia.co.nz> Subject: Re: MSAccess - ODBC error MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Tue Jul 25 23:23:58 2000 thank you for your mail. now, I've less errors. I think that the type of the unique ID for access is wrong in my model. I use LONG, mapped to INTEGER, in access it is a LONG (as counter). Is this right? -michael --------------------- > I am accessing Access using EOModeller. > Till now never have problem. > I have all string mapped to TEXT. > > Hopefully that will help. ------------ From cookie@meepmeep.demon.co.uk Tue Jul 25 23:46:30 2000 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA24513 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meepmeep.demon.co.uk ([158.152.103.154]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13HKxT-000IOu-0K for webobjects@omnigroup.com; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:46:23 +0000 Message-ID: To: webobjects@omnigroup.com From: Malcolm Cleaton Subject: Re: Further to: Radio Button matrix "loses" list binding In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Tue Jul 25 23:46:32 2000 In article , Greg Wilson writes >This one has me at Witts end. I changed the order of the bindings in the >.wod file, and it appears that whatever happens to appear as the first >binding in the .wod file causes the dump. eg when I had > >RadioButtonMatrix: WORadioButtonMatrix { > list = colourDisplayGroup.displayedObjects; >maxColumns = 4; >item = currentColour; >selection = selectedColour; >} > >It sometimes works and sometimes give the :attempt to assign value to >unknown key 'list'. This class does not have an instance variable of the >name list...... > > >If I change the .wod to read >RadioButtonMatrix: WORadioButtonMatrix { >maxColumns = 4; >item = currentColour; >selection = selectedColour; > list = colourDisplayGroup.displayedObjects; >} > >then it (sometimes) dies with the same error except now it complains that >maxColumns is the "unknow key" > >It is really sporadic, it works for a while then stops working for a while. >After several saves of the component and project builds it usually starts >working again. > >greg It sounds like this has nothing to do with the WORadioButtonMatrix itself, but rather the runtime is losing your custom component code so that this page can't find any of its custom keys. I've seen this happen for two reasons. On NT, it can happen consistantly if you are using pageWithName with the correct page name with incorrect case. Since NT is case insensitive in the filesystem, the resources for the page will be found, but the runtime will not locate the class, WOComponent will be used instead, and you'll get this error. The other time I've seen this is if I've inadvertantly launched WODefaultApp, by cleaning the project and then not rebuilding it. The WODefaultApp will locate all my runtime resources and display my pages, until it hits one that uses a custom key, in which case it won't be found because none of my code is being run. If either of these cases are the problem, you'll see it from the error. When you get an unknown key error, both the name of the app being run and the name of the WOComponent class which can't find the key are displayed. Hope this helps. Cheers, -- Malcolm Cleaton From emily.bache@aderagroup.com Wed Jul 26 00:45:32 2000 Received: from gbgnts03.gbg.intranet (mail.aderagroup.com [195.198.74.32]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA27640 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gbgnts03.gbg.intranet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3MHV5VZ4>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:44:58 +0200 Message-ID: From: Emily Catharine Bache To: "'b.scholz@mondia.de'" , Emily Catharine Bache Cc: "'webobjects@omnigroup.com'" Subject: RE: Initialising PageWithName Objects MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 00:45:33 2000 > > Of course you can use the constructor!!! The framework methode > pageWithName() will just instantiate your new page and do some other > stuff to e.g. register the page in the request-response-cycle and > therefore > of course the standard constructor MyPage() is called. The problem is that I can't pass arguments to the constructor if I use pageWithName(). As you say, pageWithName() uses the default constructor MyPage(). If I declare a second constructor, MyPage(String argument) for example, pageWithName() won't call it. What I'd like to be able to do is: public MyPage someActionMethod() { String argument = calculateString(); MyPage page = new MyPage(argument); return page; } so that MyPage can use the argument to initialise a final member variable. Unfortunately this doesn't work, because my page won't be initialised correctly, registered in the request-response cycle etc. What I instead have to do is: public MyPage someActionMethod() { String argument = calculateString(); MyPage page = (MyPage)pageWithName("MyPage"); // calls default constructor page.setSomeString(argument); return page; } Which works, but means I can't declare my member variable "final" in MyPage. Is there a way to do all the registering and context setting and stuff on a page that I've constructed? Or is there a way to use pageWithName() but have it pass on arguments to my constructor? How about with version 5? Emily From daniel.may@de.adcore.com Wed Jul 26 01:20:40 2000 Received: from bpgate1.berensp.com (bpgate1.berensp.com [194.77.33.2]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA29093 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bpintra1.berensp.com ([192.168.30.201]) by bpgate1.berensp.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with ESMTP id FYAPUB00.V4G for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:20:35 +0200 Received: from [192.168.30.184] by bpintra1.berensp.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA4061 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:21:39 +0200 Subject: Appservermatrix without WebObjects x-sender: d.may@bpintra1.berensp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: "Daniel May" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <7736AFA085B.AAA4061@bpintra1.berensp.com> Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 01:20:41 2000 Hello, I recently found Appservermatrix, http://www.flashline.com/components/appservermatrix.jsp an interesting application server overview. Sadly, there's *no* reference to WebObjects. Our company is in the process of selecting an application server platform (again), I am the WebObjects advocate, and obviously, it would help me (and WebObjects) a lot if it were included in lists like that. Does anybody know of other publicly available sources of comparisons/overviews of appservers? Thanks in advance, Daniel =================================================================== Daniel May email: d.may@de.adcore.com Software Developer fon: +49 211 39004168 Adcore AB Deutschland http://www.adcore.com =================================================================== From willscheidegger@mac.com Wed Jul 26 01:37:38 2000 Received: from bw150zhb.bluewin.ch (bw150zhb.bluewin.ch [195.186.1.68]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA29839 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac.com (bw2-71pub1.bluewin.ch [213.3.71.1]) by bw150zhb.bluewin.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19833 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:36:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <397EBD84.DFAD9688@mac.com> From: Will Scheidegger Reply-To: willscheidegger@mac.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: webobjects@omnigroup.com Subject: How to: queryMatch with WOPopUpButton? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 01:37:39 2000 Hi list, This is a simple problem I'm affraid, but I guess I'm missing something here: I have a table with records and a table with supported languages. I've built a page that displays the records and also contains a search form to only display the records matching the query parameters -> Standard "Wizard" stuff so far. Now I would like to replace the textfield with the language key search option with a WOPopUpButton. I've set up a new displayGroup containing the language objects and it displays nicely. But how do I bind it so it takes the value as "queryMatch" into the the records displayGroup? I've tried binding the language WOPopUpButton's "selection" attribute to "recordDispalyGroup.queryMatch.langkey" - no success. I also tried to do it programmatically: recordDisplayGroup.gueryMatch().setObjectForKey(selectedLangKey, "langkey"); recordDisplayGroup.qualifyDataSource(); The documentation is not very helpful... Any hints anyone? Thanks a bunch! Regards, Will From ZiyaOz@earthlink.net Wed Jul 26 01:56:01 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA00946 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [63.16.18.253] (1Cust253.tnt10.nyc1.da.uu.net [63.16.18.253]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24600 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:55:58 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Subject: Re: Appservermatrix without WebObjects From: Ziya Oz To: Multiple recipients of list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7736AFA085B.AAA4061@bpintra1.berensp.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 01:56:03 2000 Daniel May wrote: > Does anybody know of other publicly available sources of > comparisons/overviews of appservers? Good news: If you could bring yourself to click on the red TechMetrix button (upper right hand corner on top of the table), you'd be taken to another page where WebObjects is indeed included. Go on from there. TechMetrix has a slightly outdated report on WO 4 from about 18 months ago, an abridged version of which was distributed by Apple. Perhaps someone could dig it up for you. Bad news: Steve Jobs has referred to WO as "one of Apple's best kept secrets." Without a dedicated evangelism/marketing/pr/(perhaps advertising) budget, it looks like WO will remain in virtual obscurity in the corporate *trade* press. I'm afraid you'll find that a good 90% of comparative reviews or app server overviews would not even acknowledge its existence, let alone give it the prominence it deserves. Ces't la vie. **** Ziya From alex.williams@linklaters.com Wed Jul 26 02:15:19 2000 Received: from acopmr01.linklaters.com (acopmr01.linklaters.com [194.129.194.51]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA01763 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost(10.85.2.2) by acopmr01 via smap (V2.1+anti-relay+anti-spam) id xma022119; Wed, 26 Jul 00 10:13:10 +0100 Received: from acopeg01.europe.linklaters.com (unverified) by acopvs02.europe.linklaters.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:09:48 +0100 Received: by acopeg01.europe.linklaters.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) id ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:13:52 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Williams, Alex" To: "'Leon Amdour'" , "'webobjects@omnigroup.com'" Subject: RE: WO_CONFIG_URL : Adaptor multicast stuff MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 02:15:23 2000 Leon, I'll try and clear this up. The configuration settings are documented in "What's New in the WebObjects Framework". I can vouch that, for IIS and CGI at least, this documentation is correct. The CGI adaptor uses the WO_CONFIG_URL system variable (but remember the reboot!). The IIS adaptor uses the CONF_URL registry setting. According to the documentation, for NSAPI and Apache you add entries to their configuration files (obj.conf and apache.conf). I haven't tried it with these web servers. Hope that's made it a bit clearer. Cheers, Alex > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Amdour [mailto:leon@drakeassociates.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:41 PM > To: Williams, Alex; 'webobjects@omnigroup.com' > Subject: RE: WO_CONFIG_URL : Adaptor multicast stuff > > > > >One more thing. Your message suggests that setting CONF_URL > in the registry > >will solve the problem. I don't think it will. I have this > registry entry > >set - it's how the IIS adaptor obtains its config. > WebObjects.exe doesn't > >pick this up though. > > Since my name got mentioned I thought I'd join in. > Some time ago I was pointed in the direction that lead me to > a place in the > docs which suggested adding a key to the registry. > I did that, and my application started to work. Did work > before that. Which > is why I wrote about that. It's worked for a while, but seems > a bit flaky > now. I've added an environment variable since (just in case; > it all seems > unreliable, so I thought one extra variable cannot hurt :) ). > One of my apps works without a port number specified, another > one doesn't. > I'm no longer sure the fix I wrote about really does > anything, but at least > this is what Apple recommends. Looks like nobody really knows > how to get it > to work (on NT, anyway). Or am I wrong, and somebody does? > Please share... > > Leon > > ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ From Timo.Kuisma@novogroup.com Wed Jul 26 02:27:59 2000 Received: from novou13.novogroup.com (mx1.novogroup.com [62.236.77.13]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA02367 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.27.18.58] ([62.236.77.15]) by novou13.novogroup.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA559 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:27:17 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kuismti@pop.novogroup.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.1.20000620200111.00b04c00@drakeassociates.com> References: <4.3.2.7.1.20000620200111.00b04c00@drakeassociates.com> To: webobjects@omnigroup.com From: Timo Kuisma Subject: Re: Display Group insert Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 02:28:00 2000 At 20:18 -0700 20.6.2000, Leon Amdour wrote: >I have a problem with inserting objects into a display group. >I have a table, which among other fields has an identity column. In >my program I select records into a display group using a fetch >specification, then assign all selected objects to an array. Like >this > displayGroup.qualifyDataSource(); > questions = displayGroup.allObjects(); >Then I do >questions = questions.arrayByAddingObject(tmpquest); where tmpquest >is a new object I want to add to the array. >After user enters info I try to save a new record. >I do > displayGroup.insert(); > // then I set up fields > >((Questions)displayGroup.selectedObject()).setSomething(aQuestion.something()); > ......... >aQuestion is an object in 'questions' array (selected via >WOPopUpButton) ('questions' are 'list' in the WOPopUpButton). >Then I do > try { > this.session().defaultEditingContext().saveChanges(); > } catch (Exception exception) { > System.err.println("Cannot save changes "); > throw exception; > } > >What I get is this (with "-EOAdaptorDebugEnabled YES") > *** [ evaluateExpression: >'Questions'">] >=== Begin Internal Transaction >*** 0 rows processed >=== Commit Internal Transaction >*** [ evaluateExpression: "INSERT INTO EO_PK_TABLE(NAME, PK) VALUES ( 'Questions', 0 )">] >=== Begin Internal Transaction >=== Rollback Internal Transaction >Cannot save changes >EOGeneralAdaptorException: SQLExecDirect in -[ODBCChannel >evaluateExpression:(EO_PK_TABLE(NAME, PK) VALUES ( 'Questions', 0 )">)] >23000-544: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Cannot >insert explicit value for identity column in table 'EO_PK_TABLE' >when IDENTITY_INSERT is set to OFF. > >What am I doing wrong? (By the way, 'EO_PK_TABLE' is empty in my DB). > >Thanks a lot in advance. >Leon > >P.S. WO4.5, NT 4 Server, SQL Server 7 In Sybase ASE (which has same origin as MS SQL Server 7) you can't insert identity column when inserting a row into a table with identity column unless you have the option IDENTITY_INSERT set to ON (which is a special case usually) If you are using EO_PK_TABLE for primary key generation, it should have one row for every table that you need primary keys for; PK column in that row is incremented every time you insert a row in the table which name is in NAME column. How did you create EO_PK_TABLE ? EO Modeler should do everything automatically when you choose "Generate SQL..." for primary key support. In this case your Questions -table should not have an identity column at all, otherwise both SQL Server and WebObjects are trying to generate the primary key. Timo Kuisma -- ________________________________________________________________ Novo Group Oyj mailto:Timo.Kuisma@novogroup.com Valimotie 17 / PIT 3.3 Tel. +358-205 66 3920 00380 Helsinki Fax. +358-205 66 2370 Finland Gsm. +358-40-555 5715 From mark@synergycentres.org Wed Jul 26 03:34:36 2000 Received: from info.synergycentres.org (IDENT:root@info.synergycentres.org [194.80.95.3]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA04530 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synergycentres.org (iBook.synergycentres.org [194.80.95.115]) by info.synergycentres.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03992; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:38:46 +0100 Message-ID: <397EBEB3.57CE3E91@synergycentres.org> From: Mark Gowdy Reply-To: mark@synergycentres.org Organization: Synergy Centres Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Finney, Michael" CC: "'webobjects@omnigroup.com'" Subject: Re: Class Description cannot be nil error. _setClassDescription References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 03:34:38 2000 Transferring apps from 4.0.1 to 4.5 so that they are optimized for 4.5 is a wee bit tricky, but completely worth it.. The improvement in the JVM memory usage alone is amazing... (my old app used to use 20Mb, now it uses 8Mb) This is what I can remember of the process (where 'app1' is you old 4.0.1 application): 1. In project builder, create a new clean application. Use this to copy the files EO* into your app1 folder. 2. If you are using Frontbase, download the new EOAdaptor (otherwise you get 'transaction with transaction' errors) 3. (I may have restarted here) 4. Open your project, and open your eomodel.. Select the entities you have used and click the 'jav' button. Merge the new .java file with your current one (maintaining any custom business logic and constructor stuff) i.e. copy it from the your old 3 arg constructor into the new 0 arg one... Be careful of how merge does this (it can go a bit funny)... *** ALWAYS use the accessors (you don't really have a choice anymore) *** 5. If you updated your Frontbase adaptor you may have to use 'switch adaptor' to make it work again. 6. If you had created any classes that have extended EOCustomObject or EOGenericRecord (I had a few accidental ones) then remove the extends bit.. e.g. public class newClassName { NOTE: That is what caused my 'Class Description cannot be nil' errors 7. Pray to whatever deity(s) your ethnic culture deems appropriate and press the hammer shaped button.. Other hints'n'tips... If you use NSTimer to do long background tasks --- (don't) It ties up the defaultRunLoop which appears to be used by lifeBeat (which tells wotaskd that you app is alive) Instead I used NSTimer (and the defaultRunLoop) to create a java thread to do the task instead. If your app is crap and slow, you may find that wotaskd thinks that you app is dead and returns "The requested application was not found on this server" after 10 seconds.. I fixed this by changing WOAssumeAppIsDeadInterval It is an argument of wotaskd If you look into /etc/startup/3100_WebObjects I added it there... "$WOSERVICE" "$WOTASKD" -WOPort "$PORT" -WOAssumeAppIsDeadInterval 60 >/var/log/webobjects.log 2>&1 & where 60 is 60 seconds (I think) I also had to change the the time-out value in the instances adaptor settings Disclaimer: What the hell do I know (I just kept hitting it until it worked).. If anyone wants to add or change any of my findings to a more correct version feel free (as long as you post them to the list) I hope that helps some people.. Mark "Finney, Michael" wrote: > Class Description cannot be nil error. _setClassDescription > > Ever seen this error? WebObjects 4.5, Java (with Objective C bridge of > course) > > I heard to fix the problem the 3 argument constructor of the EOGenericRecord > subclass (that the error referred to) should be used. I am not sure how to > though. > > What does the error mean? How can I fix it? > > I just wanted to do a > SomeClass theObj = new SomeClass(); > theObj.callSomeFunctionLikeSetForExample(some other object); > > Thanks, > Michael Finney > Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects mailing list > WebObjects@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects -- /=========================\ | Mark Gowdy | Software Manager | Synergy Centres Ltd | Tel: 028 90 288844 | Mobile : 07808 400941 | ICQ : 31587517 \=========================/ From erik@clara.co.uk Wed Jul 26 04:03:21 2000 Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA05587 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.8.90.252] (helo=wintermute) by oracle.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13HOy5-0002ly-00 for webobjects@omnigroup.com; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:03:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 2853 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 11:03:03 -0000 Received: from garak.x101.net (HELO garak) (192.168.192.2) by wintermute.x101.net with SMTP; 26 Jul 2000 11:03:03 -0000 To: Emily Catharine Bache Subject: Re: RE: Initialising PageWithName Objects Cc: "'b.scholz@mondia.de'" , Emily Catharine Bache , "'webobjects@omnigroup.com'" Reply-To: erik@X101.net From: Erik Doernenburg X-Mailer-Extensions: SWSignature 1.3.2 X-Mailer: by Apple MailViewer (2.106) Message-Id: Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 04:03:23 2000 Emily Catharine Bache wrote: > > Of course you can use the constructor!!! The framework methode > > pageWithName() will just instantiate your new page and do some other > > stuff to e.g. register the page in the request-response-cycle and > > therefore > > of course the standard constructor MyPage() is called. > > The problem is that I can't pass arguments to the constructor if I use > pageWithName(). As you say, pageWithName() uses the default constructor > MyPage(). If I declare a second constructor, MyPage(String argument) for > example, pageWithName() won't call it. What I'd like to be able to do is: > > public MyPage someActionMethod() { > String argument = calculateString(); > MyPage page = new MyPage(argument); > return page; > } > > so that MyPage can use the argument to initialise a final member variable. > Unfortunately this doesn't work, because my page won't be initialised > correctly, registered in the request-response cycle etc. What I instead have > to do is: > > public MyPage someActionMethod() { > String argument = calculateString(); > MyPage page = (MyPage)pageWithName("MyPage"); // calls default > constructor > page.setSomeString(argument); > return page; > } > > Which works, but means I can't declare my member variable "final" in MyPage. > > Is there a way to do all the registering and context setting and stuff on a > page that I've constructed? [...] I tried something similar a while ago when I wanted to render WOComponents into NSTextViews. What I did (all in ObjC and WO 4) was to instantiate the component and then get hold of the template using WOComponent's templateWithHTMLString method. The problem is that (to my knowledge) there is no public method to associate the template with the component instance. In WebObjects 4 the following did the trick: myComponent.takeValueForKey(myTemplate, "_template"); Finally, you might want to throw in a myComponent.ensureAwakeInContext(someContext); where someContext was freshly instantiated in my application. You should probably use session.context(). Needless to say that (a) I don't know whether this really covers all of the functionality of pageWithName and (b) I would not recommend this for production code. good luck, erik From kieren_macmillan@mac.com Wed Jul 26 06:15:21 2000 Received: from tomts1-srv.bellnexxia.net (smtp.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.139] (may be forged)) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA10072 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.209.80.243] by tomts1-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000726131518.GZNM8304.tomts1-srv.bellnexxia.net@[216.209.80.243]>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:15:18 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Subject: Re: Radio Button matrix loses "list" binding From: Kieren Richard MacMillan To: , CC: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 06:15:23 2000 Greg & Michael -- I was running into the same problem with WOKeyValueConditional. In my case, it turned out to be that I didn't surround the binding in quotes -- once I did that, everything was fine. Don't know if this is any help, but I thought I'd forward my experience on to the list... Later! Kieren. From snharper@cs.uchicago.edu Wed Jul 26 06:42:14 2000 Received: from laime.cs.uchicago.edu (laime.cs.uchicago.edu [128.135.11.244]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA11225 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yeenoghu.cs.uchicago.edu (yeenoghu.cs.uchicago.edu [128.135.11.46]) by laime.cs.uchicago.edu (8.10.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6QDgDD22811 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:42:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: by yeenoghu.cs.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 10064) id 4EB551DE; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:42:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yeenoghu.cs.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246161DD for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:42:12 -0500 (CDT) From: sean nicholas harper To: webobjects@omnigroup.com Subject: is there going to be an upgrade for 5.0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 06:42:15 2000 So I recently bought 4.5. Admittedly I bought it for the student price of $99, which is a lot cheaper than most people get it and for which I am extremely grateful. I am wondering, when 5.0 comes out (before the end of the year?) will Apple have an upgrade for less than the full price? Or will I have to pay another $99 (it's a lot of $$ when you are a broke student) ? Thanks, Sean From ccc@idirect.com Wed Jul 26 06:51:48 2000 Received: from netmax.tacticalstep.com (24.69.168.200.on.wave.home.com [24.69.168.200]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA11875 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mobileblue ([192.168.0.126]) by netmax.tacticalstep.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12024 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:51:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ccc@idirect.com) Message-Id: <4.1.20000726094442.01cb6230@pop.idirect.com> X-Sender: ccc@pop.idirect.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 To: webobjects@omnigroup.com From: Michael Clark Subject: java.io.File not deleting directories on OSXS??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 06:51:51 2000 Hello All. Has anyone used the java.io.File a lot?? I have found a very strange behaviour, which I have tested successfully on Solaris and x86 Linux, which leads me to believe there is something wrong in java.io.File on OSXS. Here is the code I am trying: import java.io.*; public class FileTest { public static void main(String[]args) { File testPath = new File("anotherdir"); if (testPath.exists()) System.out.println("The path does exist!"); else System.out.println("The path does NOT exist!"); if (testPath.isDirectory()) System.out.println("It is a directory"); else System.out.println("It is not a directory"); if (testPath.delete()) System.out.println("It was deleted"); else System.out.println("It was NOT deleted"); } } If you have time, try copying this code, compile it and run it! It expects that there will be a directory called anotherdir in the current directory where you are running the program from. Like I said, it worked on Solaris and x86 Linux, so.... I am at a lost, and hoping someone has some ideas, or could shed some light here. I really don't want to drop down to do a system call from within Java... That gets a little low level, system dependent for a Java app! :) grr... Thanks, Michael. From emily.bache@aderagroup.com Wed Jul 26 07:03:13 2000 Received: from gbgnts03.gbg.intranet (mail.aderagroup.com [195.198.74.32]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA12761 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gbgnts03.gbg.intranet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3MHV5XVJ>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:02:41 +0200 Message-ID: From: Emily Catharine Bache To: "'webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com'" Subject: FW: Initialising PageWithName Objects MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by scyther.omnigroup.com id HAA12761 Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 07:03:15 2000 This got lost when the lists changed their names, but I thought it might be of general interest, so I'm re-posting it. -----Original Message----- From: Emily Catharine Bache Sent: den 26 juli 2000 13:26 To: 'webobjects@omnigroup.com' Subject: RE: Initialising PageWithName Objects > Ah, I see. I didn't understand your problem completely the first > time, sorry. > > However I believe (but that's only personal) that the final keyword > is intended > to constant variables which shouldn't get set (even once!) at all. The point with final variables is that the language iself (at compile time) enforces your decision to make a member variable so it can be set once and only once, on construction. It allows the object who constructs an object to set part of the state of that object, and know it will not change for it's whole lifetime. > And I think > you are right: there is now way around to make WO call a different > constructor > than the default. That is a useful piece of information. > > You could however, make the setSomeString() method perform a check, > whether > it did already set the string once or not, so that only on the first > call the variable > is initialized. However I believe this isn't good coding style, > because a set method > should always work. Perhaps you might want to add a further method: > initializeMyPage() > and put all the initialization stuff in there you might normally use > in the constructor and > remove all set methods to these variables which were intended to be > final and > set in a constructor. Yes, it is possible to implement some of the functionality of the "final" keyword myself, and using an initialiseMyPage() method is a reasonable solution. However, what I can't do is enforce it at compile time: I have to rely on throwing an exception if the initialise method is called more than once. > > That's the way WO works. It's built on top of frameworks and not on > libraries. > I think the framework concept (let the framework do stuff with your > objects) > is much better than the library concept (let your objects do stuff > with the library) > so one might think it prevents him from good object design, > and sometimes > it really does prevent classic object design. But in most cases > you just have to, uhm, "Think different" :-) > I think the problem is less that I'm working with a framework and not a library, and more that the framework is not flexible enough to allow me to use the full range of features of the Java language. The framework could support what I want it to do by allowing me to pass my constructor arguments to the pageWithName() method, ie Object[] args = someMethodToCalculateArgs(); MyPage page = (MyPage)pageWithName("MyPage", args); This wouldn't be hard to implement: the java reflection tools will easily find the MyPage constructor for the arguments given. If we're going to start criticising the WebObjects framework, there is more to be said, I think. For instance I would rather the framework gave me a set of interfaces to implement than a set of classes to subclass. Anyway, thank you for confirming that I can't use my own constructor to construct WOComponent objects. Emily Bache > Hope that helps, > > Bernhard. > > > -- > e-busy for you: > WebObjects trainer and project manager > Bernhard Scholz, object factory GmbH München > Inselkammerstr. 4, 82008 Unterhaching > Tel.: +49-(0)89-666081-11 Fax: -40/41 > From emily.bache@aderagroup.com Wed Jul 26 07:03:42 2000 Received: from gbgnts03.gbg.intranet (mail.aderagroup.com [195.198.74.32]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA12817 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gbgnts03.gbg.intranet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3MHV5XVK>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:03:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: Emily Catharine Bache To: "'webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com'" Subject: FW: RE: Initialising PageWithName Objects MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 07:03:45 2000 This message got lost too. -----Original Message----- From: Emily Catharine Bache Sent: den 26 juli 2000 13:37 To: 'erik@X101.net'; Emily Catharine Bache Cc: 'b.scholz@mondia.de'; 'webobjects@omnigroup.com' Subject: RE: RE: Initialising PageWithName Objects ... ... > > Is there a way to do all the registering and context > setting and stuff on a > > page that I've constructed? [...] > > I tried something similar a while ago when I wanted to render > WOComponents > into NSTextViews. ... ... > Needless to say that (a) I don't know whether this really > covers all of > the functionality of pageWithName and (b) I would not > recommend this for > production code. > > > good luck, > erik > Thanks! So basically what you're saying is that it might be possible, but you're having to second guess what pageWithName() actually does, and trying to replicate it. As you say, rather risky for production code. I think it's easier just to accept that WOComponent subclasses must only use the default, no argument constructor, and get around it another way. Emily Bache From bill_carlisle@raytheon.com Wed Jul 26 07:30:42 2000 Received: from dfw-gate3.raytheon.com (dfw-gate3.raytheon.com [138.126.255.195]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA14206 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds02c00.directory.ray.com (ds02c00.rsc.raytheon.com [147.25.138.118]) by dfw-gate3.raytheon.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e6QEUeh10837 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:30:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from notesgw.gar.esys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ds02c00.directory.ray.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20628 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:30:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wbrmnt1 ([162.36.232.73]) by notesgw.gar.esys.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.3) with SMTP id 2000072609280545:1081 ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:28:05 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:28:24 -0500 Message-ID: <01BFF6E3.D8B96120.bill_carlisle@raytheon.com> From: Bill Reply-To: "bill_carlisle@raytheon.com" To: "'WebObjects@omnigroup.com'" Subject: 4 Application Log Errors on startup of NT Organization: Carlisle X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on RCSMTA01/SRV/Raytheon/US(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 07/26/2000 09:28:05 AM, Serialize by Router on RCSMTA01/SRV/Raytheon/US(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 07/26/2000 09:28:06 AM, Serialize complete at 07/26/2000 09:28:06 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 07:30:44 2000 4 Application Log Errors on startup of NT 1.) Event ID: 0 Event Detail Source: \WindowServer.exe Type: Error The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( \WindowServer.exe ) could not be found. It contains the following insertion string(s): warning: can't connect to the nmserver; is it running?. 2.) Event ID: 0 Event Detail Source: \pbs.exe Type: Error The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( \pbs.exe ) could not be found. It contains the following insertion string(s): warning: can't connect to the nmserver; is it running?. 3.) Event Detail Event ID: 57345 Source: woservice Type: Error Jul 26 08:57:59 woservice[219] Task started. 4.) Event Detail Event ID: 57345 Source: fcache Type: Error Jul 26 08:58:08 fcache[317] fcache.exe: could not get to fonts directory C:\Library\Fonts I did a seach on WindowServer.exe and found it in D:\Apple\Library\System, so it seems a path environment variable is null somewhere. although, must be more than one: \WindowServer.exe is in the D:\Apple\Library\System \pbs.exe is in the D:\Apple\Library\Frameworks\AppKit.framework\Resources C:\Library\Fonts is in the D:\Apple\Library\Fonts When I look further at the application log, there are many informational messages listed as errors with stop signs. If this is the case, is there a way to change it to give Type: Information instead of Type: Error? info icons instead of the stop icons??? Am I to picky? From bill_carlisle@raytheon.com Wed Jul 26 07:32:01 2000 Received: from dfw-gate1.raytheon.com (dfw-gate1.raytheon.com [138.126.255.193]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA14540 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds02c00.directory.ray.com (ds02c00.rsc.raytheon.com [147.25.138.118]) by dfw-gate1.raytheon.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e6QEW0618576 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:32:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from notesgw.gar.esys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ds02c00.directory.ray.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21159 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:31:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wbrmnt1 ([162.36.232.73]) by notesgw.gar.esys.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.3) with SMTP id 2000072609292399:1082 ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:29:23 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:29:43 -0500 Message-ID: <01BFF6E4.079C6690.bill_carlisle@raytheon.com> From: Bill Reply-To: "bill_carlisle@raytheon.com" To: "'WebObjects@omnigroup.com'" Subject: Unix???? Organization: Carlisle X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on RCSMTA01/SRV/Raytheon/US(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 07/26/2000 09:29:24 AM, Serialize by Router on RCSMTA01/SRV/Raytheon/US(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 07/26/2000 09:29:25 AM, Serialize complete at 07/26/2000 09:29:25 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 07:32:02 2000 Hi Group, I brought up WebObjects at work today as a solution, but they need it on Unix. Does it run, deploy or have a future on Unix? namely SUN Microsystems Solaris. Thanks, Bill Carlisle 972-205-6022 From centro@altera.it Wed Jul 26 07:35:12 2000 Received: from altera01.altera.it ([212.131.152.194]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA15106 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cocaine.altera.it (cocaine.altera.it [192.168.20.77]) by altera01.altera.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28094 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:27:54 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.102] (pismo.altera.it [192.168.2.102]) by cocaine.altera.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10377 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:29:04 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matteo@cocaine.altera.it Message-Id: To: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com From: Matteo Centro Subject: Browser Auto Launch Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 07:35:23 2000 Hi all, I am developing under Windows NT 4.0, my browser is Netscape Navigator 4.7 and I have the following problem: When I launch a WOApplication from Project Builder, it automatically launches my Netscape and connects to the right port/application, and this is Ok. But if the browser is already open, nothing happens and the next time I open a new window an alert shows up saying that Netscape is unable to find file or directory: C:/TEMP/WOOpenURL/.... I know this might be more a Netscape problem, but are there any solutions? Like disabling the browser launch, or whatever? TIA Matteo Centro From martin.lonnar@redmessage.com Wed Jul 26 07:37:34 2000 Received: from rmxsrv.redmessage.com ([195.149.176.238]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA15548 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by RMXSRV with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <37X0P7TW>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:42:13 +0200 Message-ID: <995DCDD3A4EED311AC8600E018C2B83B25D234@RMXSRV> From: =?windows-1252?Q?Martin_L=F6nnar?= To: "'WebObjects@omnigroup.com'" Cc: "'bill_carlisle@raytheon.com'" Subject: RE: Unix???? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 07:37:36 2000 Yes, it works on Solaris but just for deployment but I guess that is what you want. It will have a future on Solaris since the 5.0 is going to be a Java only environment and Sun and Java are pretty closely related. /martin > ---------- > From: Bill > Reply To: bill_carlisle@raytheon.com > Sent: onsdag 26 juli 2000 16.29 > To: 'WebObjects@omnigroup.com' > Subject: Unix???? > > Hi Group, > I brought up WebObjects at work today as a solution, but they need > it on > Unix. Does it run, deploy or have a future on Unix? namely SUN > Microsystems > Solaris. > > Thanks, Bill Carlisle > 972-205-6022 > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-talk mailing list > WebObjects-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-talk > > From bwf@red-bean.com Wed Jul 26 07:38:44 2000 Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com (sanpietro.red-bean.com [206.69.89.65]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA15794 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bwf@localhost) by sanpietro.red-bean.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) id OAA30989; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:38:38 GMT From: Brian Fitzpatrick Message-Id: <200007261438.OAA30989@sanpietro.red-bean.com> Subject: Re: Unix???? In-Reply-To: <01BFF6E4.079C6690.bill_carlisle@raytheon.com> from Bill at "Jul 26, 2000 9:29:41 am" To: bill_carlisle@raytheon.com Cc: WebObjects@omnigroup.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL48 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 07:38:52 2000 > Hi Group, > I brought up WebObjects at work today as a solution, but they need it on > Unix. Does it run, deploy or have a future on Unix? namely SUN Microsystems > Solaris. Absolutely. Solaris or HP-UX are both currently supported. In fact, Solaris is my preferred deployment platform for Really Big WebObjects Applications. -Fitz From dave@turbocat.de Wed Jul 26 07:39:26 2000 Received: from alice.turbocat.de (gate.turbocat.de [212.41.163.6]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA15991 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cat.turbocat.de (cat.turbocat.de [212.41.163.194]) by alice.turbocat.de (8.10.1/8.10.1/05072000/dw/1) with ESMTP id e6QEdN223128; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:39:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from dave@localhost) by cat.turbocat.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA00233; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:39:22 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200007261439.QAA00233@cat.turbocat.de> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: David Wetzel To: "bill_carlisle@raytheon.com" Subject: Re: Unix???? cc: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com References: <01BFF6E4.079C6690.bill_carlisle@raytheon.com> Organisation: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de/ Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 07:39:30 2000 > From: Bill > Hi Group, > I brought up WebObjects at work today as a solution, but they need > it on > Unix. Does it run, deploy or have a future on Unix? namely SUN Microsystems > Solaris. It runs on Solaris/sparc. Ask Jesus or someone who is manager at Apple about the future. --- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse 23, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION From dempseyj@apple.com Wed Jul 26 07:49:08 2000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (mail-out1.apple.com [17.254.0.52]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA17357 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10516 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scv1.apple.com (scv1.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:49:06 -0700 Received: from [10.0.1.32] ([17.126.136.7]) by scv1.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19161; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:49:04 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Subject: Re: Unix???? From: James Dempsey To: David Wetzel , "bill_carlisle@raytheon.com" CC: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200007261439.QAA00233@cat.turbocat.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 07:49:10 2000 > It runs on Solaris/sparc. Ask Jesus or someone who is manager at Apple about > the future. This is from the press release at WWDC which summarizes the announcements regarding future WebObjects plans: ...Later this year, Apple will ship WebObjects 5 for Java, which will be built using 100 percent pure Java technology. WebObjects 5 for Java will enable Internet developers using Java to quickly build complex solutions which can be deployed on virtually any server. WebObjects 5 for Java also will support a wealth of Internet standards including Enterprise Java Beans (EJB) for interoperability and JDBC for universal database connectivity... ...A fully cross-platform solution, WebObjects 4.5 runs on Mac OS X Server, Windows NT/2000, Solaris and HP-UX systems. WebObjects 5 for Java will be available later this year... -James -- James Dempsey Apple iServices Training Apple Computer, Inc. dempsey@apple.com (408) 974-7817 > From: David Wetzel > Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:39:21 +0200 > To: "bill_carlisle@raytheon.com" > Cc: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com > Subject: Re: Unix???? > >> From: Bill > >> Hi Group, >> I brought up WebObjects at work today as a solution, but they need >> it on >> Unix. Does it run, deploy or have a future on Unix? namely SUN Microsystems >> Solaris. > > It runs on Solaris/sparc. Ask Jesus or someone who is manager at Apple about > the future. > > --- > _ _ > _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, > (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse 23, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, > _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de > (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ > DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-talk mailing list > WebObjects-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-talk From reportmill@yahoo.com Wed Jul 26 08:03:07 2000 Received: from web1103.mail.yahoo.com (web1103.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.123]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA18564 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8428 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jul 2000 15:03:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000726150305.8427.qmail@web1103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.101.173.218] by web1103.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:03:05 PDT From: Jeff Martin Subject: Re: Reportmill Grouping Problem To: webobjects@omnigroup.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 08:03:08 2000 ReportMill has a great facility for creating reproducable cases. Just call the saveObjects: API (http://www.reportmill.com/support/docs/basic_api.pdf - page 3). I recommend getting a support contract and sending in your dataset and template. It sounds like maybe the spring/strut settings may have been changed from the default (although it may be a bug if you are getting different results on Solaris). jeff --- pushpinder.singh@aia.co.nz wrote: > > > > OS: NT > WO: 4.01 > Reportmill: 4.0 (With Javawrapper) > > Hi All, > I have weird report problem using Reportmill on my > Deployment machine while it > work fine on my development machine. > > I am printing around 300- 400 reports in batch. > Group 2 on some report takes whole the page (even > though it is only 5-7 words) > resulting group 3 information on next page. > But same work fine for rest of report. > Please help me to solve this. > > Note: I am passing all objects from my application. > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | > | > | Group 1 information > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | Group 2 Information (A) > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | Goup 3(Column1 Val) | Goup 3(Column2 Val) > | Goup 3(Column3 | > | Val) | Goup 3(Column4 Val) > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | Total Group 3 Column 4 val > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | Group 2 Information (B) > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | Goup 3(Column1 Val) | Goup 3(Column2 Val) > | Goup 3(Column3 Val) | > | | Group 3(Column4 Val) > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | Total Group 3 Column 4 val > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects mailing list > WebObjects@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects ===== Jeff Martin ReportMill Software 408.873.1837 jeff@reportmill.com http://www.reportmill.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From bruce@iterative.com Wed Jul 26 08:02:08 2000 Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18305; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA08043; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:01:18 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from voxtop (w178.z064000058.nyc-ny.dsl.cnc.net [64.0.58.178]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA26227; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:01:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Fancher" To: , Subject: RE: Apple to Rename Objective C... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 08:04:42 2000 Ya know, I usually don't bother participating in these generally pointless discussions, but all joking aside it's actually a damn good idea. If Apple were to add a few things to Objective-C, like garbage collection and maybe steal a couple of good ideas from TOM, they could justify renaming the language and thereby presenting it as something "new." Throw in a couple of white papers about how important dynamic binding is, and how much more maintainable the syntax is ("studies have shown that developers can learn the new syntax in half an hour") and they might actually have something. I think that the failure of NeXT to set the world on fire is still crippling Apple's confidence in their ability to market languages/runtimes. However, if Sun, which no one had ever heard of five years ago, could pull off what they did with Java on the basis of a few fluffy white papers and bullshit press releases, then Apple, which is regarded as far more of an innovator than Sun, should be able to make headway with a renamed Objective-C. One reason that Java succeeded and Objective-C didn't, is that C++ developers could switch to Java without admiting that they'd made a horrible mistake in adopting C++ in the first place. After all, Java didn't exist when they first started using C++, so there was no shame in switching. If they'd switched to Objective-C (or SmallTalk, or Eiffel, or anything which was an option in the first place) then they'd have admit, if only to themselves, that they probably fucked up in choosing C++. By giving Objective-C a new name and unveiling it to the world with a little marketing pixie dust sprinkled on top, you give developers a reason for looking at it again. If Steve Jobs can't get reporters gushing about how Apple is going to bring the same ease of use to software developers they did to end users, then something is very wrong with the universe. Just look at how much positive spin Apple got by renaming Rhapsody to MacOS X and pretending that it was something entirely different. It was total spin -- as we all know MacOS X is Rhapsody is NeXTStep, just with more Mac stuff ported to it than was originally planned -- but developers and users bought it lock, stock and barrel. Instead of having "that NeXT crap" shoved down their throats, they're simply being given the next generation of their beloved MacOS. And it all took was a name change and a few slides during a Steve Jobs keynote. Anyway, even if they wanted to its not like Apple can just gracefully ditch Objective-C. Too much of their critical software is written in it and dependent on its capabilities. So since they're stuck with it, why don't they turn a liability into and asset? Oh well . . . > -----Original Message----- > From: macosx-dev-admin@omnigroup.com > [mailto:macosx-dev-admin@omnigroup.com]On Behalf Of Michael Bytnar > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 11:53 AM > To: macosx-dev@omnigroup.com > Subject: Apple to Rename Objective C... > > > July 18, 2000 - Cupertino > > The Marketing department has reacted to outspoken developer input > that "Objective C" has too much of a negative connotation. > A proposal has been made to rename it "Unbiased C", in light of > the Microsoft's attempt to author an identical language under > the name C# (pro. "C Sharp"). > > Suggested acronyms for the newly renamed language are: > C+- Unbiased C > C)( Unbalanced C > D NeXT Chromatic Higher > > > In a related story, Microsoft developers now call "C Sharp", > "C##". Which follows suit to MS developers pounding and pounding > their fists on the keyboard to create code in this new language. > > > > ( Hope this is a brief relief from the recent discussions. --Mike ) > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-dev mailing list > MacOSX-dev@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-dev From asa@zenn.com Wed Jul 26 08:05:57 2000 Received: from fred.zenntools.com ([209.110.18.9]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19155 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dv1 (64.208.202.19) by fred.zenntools.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:11:43 -0400 To: webobjects@omnigroup.com Subject: Re: Credit Card Processing Options with WO From: Asa Hardcastle x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.317) Message-ID: <1247512593-41908923@fred.zenntools.com> Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 08:05:58 2000 The processing.net solution looks like it is easy to integrate into a current solution, however, we have a client who is interested in CyberCash cashregister. Has anyone used CyberCash with WO? --asa Asa Hardcastle Zenn New Media From dswank@agave.com Wed Jul 26 08:16:59 2000 Received: from agave.com (gatekeeper.agave.com [209.241.135.2]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA20177 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mezcal.agave.com (mezcal.agave.com [69.0.0.2]) by agave.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26713 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:16:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eagle.agave.com (eagle.agave.com [69.0.0.17]) by mezcal.agave.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01062 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:16:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: by eagle.agave.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:09:22 -0500 Message-ID: <81C5E83694ADD211ACB50000C02F79D73087CD@eagle.agave.com> From: Darby Swank To: "'WebObjects-talk@omnigroup.com'" Subject: WebSite MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 08:17:00 2000 Hi Group- I am a project manager, who is developing a website with WebObjects. The site is not public yet but is functional. I'm looking for some feedback/suggestions on how to improve the site. The concept of the site is to have potential job candidates take skills test to help better match them to a job rather then a resume (Unfortunately we have not found a WebObjects test but feel free to take as many test as you wish). We feel that this is a better representation of someone's skill level then a resume. What I would like from the group is suggestion on improvement, functionality, look or feel, and possible capabilities of WebObjects that we are not using. I appreciate your time. Regards, Darby Swank Project Manager 972-480-9210 dswank@agave.com Site location: http://www.joboyster.com username: beta1 password: xraytype27 From willscheidegger@mac.com Wed Jul 26 08:18:14 2000 Received: from bw150zhb.bluewin.ch (bw150zhb.bluewin.ch [195.186.1.68]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA20378 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac.com (bw2-72pub171.bluewin.ch [213.3.72.171]) by bw150zhb.bluewin.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03246; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:17:35 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <397F1D2E.48028FA@mac.com> From: Will Scheidegger Reply-To: willscheidegger@mac.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominik Westner CC: webobjects@omnigroup.com Subject: Re: How to: queryMatch with WOPopUpButton? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 08:18:15 2000 Dominik Westner wrote: >[...] > don't bind the the selection to recordDispalyGroup.queryMatch.langkey, but > to the relationship that you have defined in your model between records and > languages, e.g. it might be named something like lang or toLang ... > Keep in mind that you are working with an object graph and try to forget > about primary and foreign keys, which are used in relational databases ;-) > WO takes care of that. Of course! Hm... I guess it will take me a while before I quit thinking the old way. ;-) In the meantime I found a workaround (programatically)... but letting WO do the work is much nicer of course! Thanks for your help, Dominik. Regards, Will > > [...] > > I've tried binding the language WOPopUpButton's "selection" attribute to > > "recordDispalyGroup.queryMatch.langkey" - no success. I also tried to do > > it programmatically: > > recordDisplayGroup.gueryMatch().setObjectForKey(selectedLangKey, "langkey"); > > recordDisplayGroup.qualifyDataSource(); From Timo.Kuisma@novogroup.com Wed Jul 26 08:21:57 2000 Received: from novou13.novogroup.com (mx1.novogroup.com [62.236.77.13]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA20938 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.27.18.58] ([62.236.77.15]) by novou13.novogroup.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA6682; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:21:23 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kuismti@pop.novogroup.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200007251512.IAA24569@scyther.omnigroup.com> References: <200007251512.IAA24569@scyther.omnigroup.com> To: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com From: Timo Kuisma Subject: Re: wo4.5 Java Client on Mac OS Cc: "Paul R. Summermatter" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 08:21:58 2000 >At 14:37 -0700 31.5.2000, Stan Burnitt wrote: >Does anybody know if it is possible to run a Java Client CLIENT >>application on Mac OS? >>I know that I would need the latest MRJ, plus the EO-Java Client >>classes on the Mac clients. Is there anything I'm missing? >>How would I start the client without a command line available on Mac OS 8.6+ >> >>Thanks, >>Stan > >Just install the latest MRJ, swing, the swing look and feel, the >>javaclient.jar and whatever other classes you need somewhere on the Mac. >>Then use JBindery (free download with the MRJ sdk) to create a standalone >>application. >> >>I use this setup and it works just fine. >>-- Eric > >I installed MRJ 2.2.2 and Swing 1.1.1 on Mac OS 8.5.1 and got >JBindery from MRJ SDK 2.2. > >I can run the D2JCTutorial Java Client on Mac OS X 1.2 and Win NT >fine; on Mac OS X Java Client is started e.g. as: > >java -classpath >"/Local/Library/Frameworks/BusinessLogicClient.framework/WebServerResources/Java:/System/Library/Java/eojavaclient.jar:/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Classes/classes.jar:/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Classes/awt.jar:/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Classes/swingall.jar" >com.apple.client.eoapplication.EOApplication -applicationURL >http://IPaddress:8888/cgi-bin/WebObjects/D2JCTutorial > >What Java files and optional parameters do I need to configure on >JBindery to build a Java Client app for Mac OS ? I suppose >swingall.jar and eojavaclient.jar at least but what else, and where >do I get eojavaclient.jar for Mac OS ? > I managed to run Direct To Java Client tutorial on Mac OS 8.5.1 with Applet Runner 2.2.2 just by installing swingall.jar to System Folder/Extensions/MRJ Libraries/MRJClasses and opening http://IPaddress:8888/cgi-bin/WebObjects/D2JCTutorial with Applet Runner. However, I still can't figure out how to create a standalone Java application with JBindery. I suppose I can copy eojavaclient.jar from Mac OS X, but how do you link BusinessLogicClient.framework where all the logic seems to be ? And do I just put the -applicationURL to optional parameters ? Timo Kuisma -- ________________________________________________________________ Novo Group Oyj mailto:Timo.Kuisma@novogroup.com Valimotie 17 / PIT 3.3 Tel. +358-205 66 3920 00380 Helsinki Fax. +358-205 66 2370 Finland Gsm. +358-40-555 5715 From aangel@theshopnextdoor.com Wed Jul 26 08:23:28 2000 Received: from mail.theshopnextdoor.com (sfo-clfh-0197.customers.reflexnet.net [64.6.200.197]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA21249 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.102] ([10.0.0.102]) by mail.theshopnextdoor.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10422 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:21:12 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Subject: WebObjects Resources FAQ From: Andre Angelantoni To: WebObjects Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3047444607_3562454_MIME_Part" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 08:23:29 2000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3047444607_3562454_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit WebObjects Resources FAQ July 26, 2000 This FAQ is intended to point WebObjects developers to the resources available to them on the Internet. It is *not* intended to be an exhaustive technical Q&A. For new developers, take the time to search the mailing lists before posting, especially to the OmniGroup list. You'll find that almost every easy question ever asked has been answered there and can be found in the archives. Please try to keep the lists for the tough questions. If you have a suggestion for this FAQ, or a resource to add (user group, book, website, etc.), please email Andre Angelantoni at aangel@theshopnextdoor.com. Perform a find on ** to locate changes since the last FAQ. 1. How can I get a copy of WebObjects? The Apple Store at http://store.apple.com will sell you a copy. The CD you will receive can install on MacOSX Server 1.2, Windows NT/2000, Solaris and HP/UX. The current version of WebObjects is 4.5. It _will not_ run on MacOSX Developer Preview 4 (at least reliably, according to reports). If you join Apple's Premier Developer program, you get a copy included in your Orientation Kit. ADC Select and Student members will be able to purchase WebObjects at a discount through the ADC Member Site beginning in early July 2000. ** 2. Will WebObjects work on the new machines Apple has just released? The word on the MacWorld show floor is that currently WebObjects will work only on the previous generation of machines. There are two ways Apple can go to change this. They can bring 4.5 to MacOSX, which likely has already be Q/A'd for the new machines. Or, they can Q/A MacOSX Server on the new machines (because WO runs only on OSX Server on Macs). We'll keep you posted when more light is shed on this subject. 3. What are the important links at Apple w/r to WebObjects? The main WebObjects site is: http://www.apple.com/webobjects The main developer page for WebObjects is: http://developer.apple.com/webobjects Their FAQ page is: http://developer.apple.com/webobjects/faq.html The main support page is: http://www.info.apple.com/info.apple.com/support/pages.taf?product=webobject s For the latest list of patches, check out Apple TIL #70037 through their search engine: http://til.info.apple.com/ The documentation is at: http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/webobjects/webobjects.html 4. What are some of the community websites dedicated to WebObjects? The sites listed below have substantial WebObjects content: Stepwise http://www.stepwise.com Excellent resource for technical articles and news from the community. Covers MacOSX, WebObjects and OpenStep. Missing Link http://www.darwinlinux.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/MissingLink Hints, tips and tricks for WebObjects and the various Apple OS's. OmniGroup http://www.omnigroup.com/community The community section of OmniGroup's site has source code, mailing lists (see below) and other goodies. 5. Are there mailing lists for WebObjects? The list that tackles the toughest problems and is the busiest is hosted by OmniGroup. Sign up at: http://www.omnigroup.com/community/developer/mailinglists/ Apple also has one at: http://discuss.info.apple.com/boards/webobj.nsf/by+Topic?Openview 6. Can I search the mailing list archives? There are two ways to search the OmniGroup list. To do it locally, download the mailbox for the archive (organized by year) from the OmniGroup website. Then perform the following steps. Place the .mbox files you get from OmniGroup's site into your ~/Mailboxes directory. Then, in MailViewer.app, use the indexing options (under Preferences, or you can individually index a mailbox by selecting it and selecting 'Create Index' in the menu). Select Mailbox | Indexing | Search Index to bring up the search box when indexing is complete and all your searches will use Apple's fuzzy searching technology. Very cool. If the 'Create Index' menu item is grayed out, try creating a new mailbox and moving all the messages to it. When that process is done or you next open the new mailbox, MailViewer.app will ask you for permission to create the index if you have checked the appropriate box under Indexing in Preferences. Moving messages may not be intuitive at first. In the main window, highlight all the source messages. Pull up the Mailboxes panel and highlight the destination mailbox. In the same panel, c lick the button with two mailboxes and a curved arrow leading from one to the other to begin the move. To search over the web, try: http://www.egroups.com/message/webobjects Or: http://wodeveloper.com/search.html Apple's forum has a search function, too. Look for "Search This Forum" at the bottom of the page. 7. Where can I get products that use WebObjects, or sample code? Softrak http://softrak.stepwise.com Compendium of software released for WebObjects and the various Apple OS's. Organized by category and release date. WOSource http://www.wosource.com Various resources, including sample source code. WODeveloper http://www.wodeveloper.com Sample code including frameworks. Peak.org ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/ FTP archive of various resources. Missing Link (mentioned above) also has sample code. 8. Where can I get an independent assessment of WebObjects? This report by TechMetrix, including benchmarks, was released in January of 99 for WO4.0, but is still applicable to WO4.5 and compares many app servers to each other: http://www.techmetrix.com/lab/benchcenter/appserverbench.shtml Less thorough but more current is the one at Apple's website: http://www.apple.com/webobjects/whitepaper/index.html For a snapshot of major app server environments, including WO4.5, try: http://www.woomeranet.com.au/enterprise.html Check out the articles here on application servers, WO and "Why Apple chose NeXT over Be" as a bonus: http://www.MacKiDo.com/WebObjects You'll also find some interesting reading on the topic at the Missing Link website under the WebObjects rubric. 9. Can I get training for WebObjects? Check out http://www.apple.com/webobjects/schedule.html for a schedule of the courses. Historically, the training has always won great reviews. Plus you get the training manuals, which are arguably the best published documentation available for WO right now. 10. Are there any books on WebObjects? Not yet. But there are some coming. Please email me when you find out a book has been published. 11. What user groups are there? Bay Area Next User Group (BANG) http://www.bang.org The oldest continually-running user group devoted to the technologies that NeXT produced, including WebObjects. BANG has a group devoted entirely to WebObjects that meets in San Francisco once a month, plus a more general meeting once a month often at Apple's campus. Head to the BANG website to get on the mailing list and learn about upcoming events. Mid-Atlantic WebObjects User Group (MAWUG) http://www.mawug.org MAWUG is the first user group dedicated solely to building a community of WebObjects enthusiasts. Started in 1998, MAWUG has grown to a local membership of nearly 200 professional users (as of 6/2000) who meet every other month to exchange information and promote the use of WebObjects. The group generally meets at its founder's office, BLaCKSMITH, Inc., in Vienna, VA, but has met at Apple's local sales office in Reston, VA. Average number of meeting attendees is 25. Please contact MAWUG to register for meeting updates. (Who else wants to be listed here? Drop me a note. . . ) 12. Are there any other WebObjects FAQs? http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/FAQs/WebObjectsFaq.html And don't forget that Missing Link is one big happy FAQ. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to all contributors to this FAQ! -------------------------------------------------------------------- Legal Stuff: Neither TheShopNextDoor.com nor Andre Angelantoni takes responsibility for the information, errors or omissions contained herein. You are free to use the information but you assume all risks for such use. --MS_Mac_OE_3047444607_3562454_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable WebObjects Resources FAQ WebObjects Resources FAQ

July 26, 2000

This FAQ is intended to point WebObjects developers to the resources availa= ble to them on the Internet. It is *not* intended to be an exhaustive techni= cal Q&A.

For new developers, take the time to search the mailing lists before postin= g, especially to the OmniGroup list. You'll find that almost every easy ques= tion ever asked has been answered there and can be found in the archives. Pl= ease try to keep the lists for the tough questions.

If you have a suggestion for this FAQ, or a resource to add (user group, bo= ok, website, etc.), please email Andre Angelantoni at = aangel@theshopnextdoor.com.

Perform a find on ** to locate changes since the last FAQ.

1. How can I get a copy of WebObjects?

The Apple Store at http://store.apple.com will sell you a copy. The CD you will receive can install on MacOSX Serve= r 1.2, Windows NT/2000, Solaris and HP/UX. The current version of WebObjects= is 4.5. It _will not_ run on MacOSX Developer Preview 4 (at least reliably,= according to reports).

If you join Apple's Premier Developer program, you get a copy included in y= our Orientation Kit.

ADC Select and Student members will be able to purchase WebObjects at a dis= count through the ADC Member Site beginning in early July 2000.

** 2. Will WebObjects work on the new machines Apple has just released?

The word on the MacWorld show floor is that currently WebObjects will work = only on the previous generation of machines. There are two ways Apple can go= to change this. They can bring 4.5 to MacOSX, which likely has already be Q= /A'd for the new machines. Or, they can Q/A MacOSX Server on the new machine= s (because WO runs only on OSX Server on Macs). We'll keep you posted when m= ore light is shed on this subject.

3. What are the important links at Apple w/r to WebObjects?

The main WebObjects site is:
http://www.apple.com/webobjects

The main developer page for WebObjects is:
http://developer.apple.com/webobjects

Their FAQ page is:
http://developer.apple.com/webobjects/faq.html

The main support page is:
http://www.info.apple.com/info.apple.com/support/p= ages.taf?product=3Dwebobjects

For the latest list of patches, check out Apple TIL #70037 through their se= arch engine:
http://til.info.apple.com/

The documentation is at:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/webobjects/web= objects.html

4. What are some of the community websites dedicated to WebObjects?

The sites listed below have substantial WebObjects content:

Stepwise
http://www.stepwise.com
Excellent resource for technical articles and news from the community. Cove= rs MacOSX, WebObjects and OpenStep.

Missing Link
http://www.darwinlinux.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Miss= ingLink
Hints, tips and tricks for WebObjects and the various Apple OS's= .

OmniGroup
http://www.omnigroup.com/community
The community section of OmniGroup's site has source code, maili= ng lists (see below) and other goodies.

5. Are there mailing lists for WebObjects?
The list that tackles the toughest problems and is the busiest is hosted by= OmniGroup. Sign up at:
http://www.omnigroup.com/community/developer/maili= nglists/

Apple also has one at:
http://discuss.info.apple.com/boards/webobj.nsf/by= +Topic?Openview

6. Can I search the mailing list archives?

There are two ways to search the OmniGroup list. To do it locally, download= the mailbox for the archive (organized by year) from the OmniGroup website.= Then perform the following steps.

Place the .mbox files you get from OmniGroup's site into your ~/Mailboxes d= irectory. Then, in MailViewer.app, use the indexing options (under Preferenc= es, or you can individually index a mailbox by selecting it and selecting 'C= reate Index' in the menu). Select Mailbox | Indexing | Search Index to bring= up the search box when indexing is complete and all your
searches will use Apple's fuzzy searching technology. Very cool.

If the 'Create Index' menu item is grayed out, try creating a new mailbox a= nd moving all the messages to it. When that process is done or you next open= the new mailbox, MailViewer.app will ask you for permission to create the i= ndex if you have checked the appropriate box under Indexing in Preferences. =

Moving messages may not be intuitive at first. In the main window, highligh= t all the source messages. Pull up the Mailboxes panel and highlight the des= tination mailbox. In the same panel, c lick the button with two mailboxes an= d a curved arrow leading from one to the other to begin the move.

To search over the web, try:
http://www.egroups.com/message/webobjects

Or:
http://wodeveloper.com/search.html

Apple's forum has a search function, too. Look for "Search This Forum&= quot; at the bottom of the page.

7. Where can I get products that use WebObjects, or sample code?

Softrak
http://softrak.stepwise.com
Compendium of software released for WebObjects and the various A= pple OS's. Organized by category and release date.

WOSource
http://www.wosource.com
Various resources, including sample source code.

WODeveloper
http://www.wodeveloper.com
Sample code including frameworks.

Peak.org
ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/
FTP archive of various resources.

Missing Link (mentioned above) also has sample code.

8. Where can I get an independent assessment of WebObjects?

This report by TechMetrix, including benchmarks, was released in January of= 99 for WO4.0, but is still applicable to WO4.5 and compares many app server= s to each other:
http://www.techmetrix.com/lab/benchcenter/appserve= rbench.shtml

Less thorough but more current is the one at Apple's website:
http://www.apple.com/webobjects/whitepaper/index.h= tml

For a snapshot of major app server environments, including WO4.5, try:
http://www.woomeranet.com.au/enterprise.html

Check out the articles here on application servers, WO and "Why Apple = chose NeXT over Be" as a bonus:
http://www.MacKiDo.com/WebObjects

You'll also find some interesting reading on the topic at the Missing Link = website under the WebObjects rubric.

9. Can I get training for WebObjects?

Check out http://www.apple.com/webobjects/schedule= .html for a schedule of the courses. Historically, the training h= as always won great reviews. Plus you get the training manuals, which are ar= guably the best published documentation available for WO right now.

10. Are there any books on WebObjects?

Not yet. But there are some coming. Please email me when you find out a boo= k has been published.

11. What user groups are there?

Bay Area Next User Group (BANG)
http://www.bang.org
The oldest continually-running user group devoted to the technol= ogies that NeXT produced, including WebObjects. BANG has a group devoted ent= irely to WebObjects that meets in San Francisco once a month, plus a more ge= neral meeting once a month often at Apple's campus. Head to the BANG website= to get on the mailing list and learn about upcoming events.

Mid-Atlantic WebObjects User Group (MAWUG)
http://www.mawug.org
MAWUG is the first user group dedicated solely to building a com= munity of WebObjects enthusiasts.  Started in 1998, MAWUG has grown to = a local membership of nearly 200 professional users (as of 6/2000) who meet = every other month to exchange information and promote the use of WebObjects.=  The group generally meets at its founder's office, BLaCKSMITH, Inc., = in Vienna, VA, but has met at Apple's local sales office in Reston, VA. &nbs= p;Average number of meeting attendees is 25. Please contact MAWUG to registe= r for meeting updates.

(Who else wants to be listed here? Drop me a note. . . )

12. Are there any other WebObjects FAQs?

http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/FAQs/WebObjectsF= aq.html

And don't forget that Missing Link is one big happy FAQ.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to all contributors to this FAQ!
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Legal Stuff:
Neither TheShopNextDoor.com nor Andre Angelantoni takes responsibility for = the information, errors or omissions contained herein. You are free to use t= he information but you assume all risks for such use.
--MS_Mac_OE_3047444607_3562454_MIME_Part-- From srundquist@desertsky.com Wed Jul 26 08:35:49 2000 Received: from dss1.desertsky.com (dss1.desertsky.com [208.157.218.98]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA22407; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WSPC105 (srundquistpc.desertsky.com [208.157.218.105]) by dss1.desertsky.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA18511; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:35:17 -0700 Message-ID: <002401bff716$95aa7260$69da9dd0@WSPC105> From: "Shannon Rundquist" To: , References: Subject: Re: Apple to Rename Objective C... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 08:35:51 2000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Fancher" > I think that the failure of NeXT to set the world on fire is still crippling > Apple's confidence in their ability to market languages/runtimes. However, > if Sun, which no one had ever heard of five years ago, could pull off what > they did with Java on the basis of a few fluffy white papers and bullshit > press releases, then Apple, which is regarded as far more of an innovator > than Sun, should be able to make headway with a renamed Objective-C. Having come from a 100% PC professional environment not that long ago, I think I can safely say what are the perceived images of Apple and Sun. First, disclaimer: this in no way expresses my views NOW, but these views were mine and also based on interactions with other pc only folks. I.e., please skip the hate mail to me. Sun: High end quality performance products. Java? Backed by Sun with the already great image. Apple: The loser to the company that puts out inferior buggy products, Microsoft; overly expensive machines, struggling to survive in a Microsoft world. Anything put out by Apple is tied to that (or similar) image. Just a few weeks ago, I mentioned to someone that I was working on WebObjects put out by Apple and he immediately gave me the sign of the cross like he was warding off evil spirits or vampires. We're told to not knock Apple users to their face because they paid a lot more for their Mac which is why they'll get upset. That is a sample of the image difference, and what Apple needs to overcome on their own image. Shannon Rundquist From didsoft@home.com Wed Jul 26 09:09:08 2000 Received: from mail1.rdc2.on.home.com (mail1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.40]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA24960 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.68.50.63] by mail1.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000726160901.SMQE20949.mail1.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.68.50.63]>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:09:01 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Subject: Re: Radio Button matrix "loses" list binding From: Greg Wilson To: Jean-Francois Cote CC: WebObjects Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9635C96E792BD311B5240004ACB8C7DDE73ACD@mailex.inso.ca> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by scyther.omnigroup.com id JAA24960 Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 09:09:10 2000 on 7/26/2000 11:40 AM, Jean-Francois Cote at JFCote@inso.ca wrote: > Hi Greg, > I have the same problem here. Does someone gave to you a solution? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jean-François Côté > Département informatique > Inso > Web: http://www.inso.ca > Courriel: jfcote@inso.ca > Tél.: (514) 271-4676 ext. 3261 > Fax: (514) 271-2950 > > Bonjour I have received a couple of suggestions which I will forward to you over the next few minutes. However, I haven't had time to try any of them as I've been working on other areas of the project. Let me know if anything works for you. greg > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Greg Wilson [mailto:didsoft@home.com] > Envoyé : 24 juillet, 2000 10:30 > À : WebObjects > Objet : Radio Button matrix "loses" list binding > > > I 'm having a strange thing happen to a radio button matrix I have defined > in a component page. Every once in a while I get the WO Error page with: > "Attempt to assign value to unknown key list". > > The first time it happened, I went to the componet, inspected the binding > and it looked OK. To be on the safe side, I reset it (to a > displayGroup.displayedObjects), rebuilt the project and the error went away. > A while later, not having touched the component page that the > WORadioButtonMatrix was on at all, it happened again. It's just happened > again and I thought I'd run it by you folk to see if 1) anyone had this kind > of problem before and 2) any areas I should look at to stop this > intermittent behaviour > > thanks > > greg > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects mailing list > WebObjects@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects From anthonyz@rocketvision.com Wed Jul 26 09:09:45 2000 Received: from master.cnw.com ([206.40.158.78]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA25098 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <276748433784AA4C0EF7132D@master.cnw.com> Received: From dyn-132-55.ferndale.cnw.net [207.149.132.55] by master.cnw.com [206.40.158.78] with MsgCore/NT [(C) 1999 Nosque Workshop/Dick Lin/Taiwan] BD0210 id276748433784AA4C0EF7132D; Wed Jul 26 09:22:11 2000 -0700 From: "Anthony Zimmerman" To: "Asa Hardcastle" , Subject: RE: Credit Card Processing Options with WO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <2767399A01A1FF47FB92131B@master.cnw.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 09:09:52 2000 Hi Asa, We didn't have *any* luck integrating with CyberCash. They seem to be clueless. Here's a copy of my conversation with them (bottom posts were first): Hello Anthony, Thanks for writing to CyberCash. The merchant connection kit ( MCK ) we provide has been tested on all major web servers, but unfortunately WeBbObjects is yet to be one of them. Apart for ASP, example scripts are provided as on in C and perl (for NT only). Java implementation unfortunately is not currently available. But if you are using Win NT, you can create an NT DLL that supports JNI to connect a Java Servlet to CYCHMCK.DLL. You can use the contents at ftp://ftp.cybercash.com/techsupport/mck-releases/ for this. The CYCHMCK.DLL User's Guide explains how to use the objects and functions. Also you have mentioned the deployment to be on WebObjects 4.5 MacOSXS. Please note that MAC is not a supported platform for the MCK. For a list of supported platforms please refer to http://www.cybercash.com/cashregister/download.html I hope this helps. Please feel free to reply to this mail or call us at 703-295-0880, If you need any more information or clarification. Regards, prabhu CyberCash Client Services Thanks for using CyberCash service. We would appreciate your valuable feedback and comments to improve our services. Please spare a minute to let us know at: http://www.cybercash.com/support/survey.html REF Number: 144287.00000 Message from anthonyz@rocketvision.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't heard of the number one application server in the world? How unbelievably odd. Inform yourselves at: http://www.apple.com/webobjects/ Do you have a java framework? A connection kit? Does CC work with *anything* besides ASP? Anthony Zimmerman Rocket Vision Webmaster http://www.rocketvision.com "Awesome product. Great rocket. Incredible quickness going beyond mach one. Beautiful appearance and ease of assembly. All for about $20. How can you beat that?" -Greg Dunham in his review of the Mach-Buster posted on Essence's Model Rocketry Reviews. > -----Original Message----- > From: CyberCash Merchant Support [mailto:merchant-support@cybercash.com] > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 10:35 PM > To: anthonyz@rocketvision.com > Subject: Re: CyberCash and WebObjects > > > Hello Anthony , > > Thanks for writing to CyberCash. > > Unfortunately , we have no knowledge about WebObjects -- cybercash > integration . May be , WebObjects > can help you in this matter . > > FYI , > > CyberCash does not support the integration of the CyberCash software. > For assistance with integration and/or hosting please contact one of the > following providers: > - Concentric Network: http://www.concentric.com/index5.shtml > (800) 335-8263 > x2020 > - Go E Merchant: http://www.goemerchant.com/ (888) 638-7867 > - EarthLink Network, Inc. http://www.earthlink.net (800) 395-8425 > - PSINet: http://www.psinet.com (703) 904-4100 > > We are sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused . > > Please feel free to reply to this mail or call us at 703-295-0880, If you > need any more information or clarification. > > Regards, > CyberCash Client Services > > > Thanks for using CyberCash service. We would appreciate your valuable > feedback and comments to improve our services. Please spare a > minute to let > us know at: http://www.cybercash.com/support/survey.html > > > > REF Number: 144186.00000 > > Message from anthonyz@rocketvision.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > > We are in the process of moving our site from ASP to WebObjects > and need to > recode our cybercash process. Can you tell me how to integrate CyberCash > with WebObjects? > > Develop: WebObjects 4.5 NT > Deployment: WebObjects 4.5 MacOSXS > > Thanks, > Anthony > > -----Original Message----- > From: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com > [mailto:webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com]On Behalf Of Asa Hardcastle > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:03 AM > To: webobjects@omnigroup.com > Subject: Re: Credit Card Processing Options with WO > > > > The processing.net solution looks like it is easy to integrate into a > current solution, however, we have a client who is interested in > CyberCash > cashregister. > > Has anyone used CyberCash with WO? > > --asa > > Asa Hardcastle > Zenn New Media > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-talk mailing list > WebObjects-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-talk From tara@mcservices.com Wed Jul 26 09:23:37 2000 Received: from mcservices.com ([207.250.124.70]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25957 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [207.250.124.246] (207.250.124.246) by mcservices.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:24:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Subject: Converting from an int to a Number From: "Tara Hodapp" To: WebObjects Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1247493801-199709@mcservices.com> Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 09:23:39 2000 Hi all, I was wondering how it is possible take an int (returned from the count method), add one to it, convert it into a Number and insert it into a database field that is of type Number? (I need the specific Java code if possible) Thanks, Tara From didsoft@home.com Wed Jul 26 09:24:51 2000 Received: from mail1.rdc2.on.home.com (mail1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.40]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26268 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.68.50.63] by mail1.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000726162445.STKN20949.mail1.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.68.50.63]> for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:24:45 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Subject: Going back to anchor point after form submit From: Greg Wilson To: WebObjects Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 09:24:52 2000 I have a very long page with several "form filling" areas (ie must scroll down to get to ). Whenever the submit is pressed on a form near the bottom of the page, the page is redrawn back at the top, which requires you to scroll back down to do any further editing etc. My button is tied to an action which doesn't return a page, ie void doSubmit() { } but it also returns to the top if I use WOComponent doSubmit() { return null; } is there away I can tell "it" to return the page to a specified anchor pt? This seems to me to be 1) something that should be simple and 2) a newbie kinda question. yet I still don't know the answer or where to look for the answer. Any help appreciated greg From bwf@red-bean.com Wed Jul 26 09:27:38 2000 Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com (sanpietro.red-bean.com [206.69.89.65]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26638 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bwf@localhost) by sanpietro.red-bean.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) id QAA32423; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:27:35 GMT From: Brian Fitzpatrick Message-Id: <200007261627.QAA32423@sanpietro.red-bean.com> Subject: Re: Converting from an int to a Number In-Reply-To: <1247493801-199709@mcservices.com> from Tara Hodapp at "Jul 26, 2000 11:23:35 am" To: tara@mcservices.com (Tara Hodapp) Cc: webobjects@omnigroup.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL48 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 09:27:39 2000 > I was wondering how it is possible take an int (returned from the count > method), add one to it, convert it into a Number and insert it into a > database field that is of type Number? (I need the specific Java code if > possible) int i = 3; i++; // Number is an abstract class, so we use interger Integer aNumberObject = new Integer(i); myEO.setNumberAttribute(aNumberObject); -Fitz From Dave@Yost.com Wed Jul 26 09:27:58 2000 Received: from shell4.bayarea.net (shell4.bayarea.net [209.128.82.1]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26759 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (dayost.bayarea.net [209.128.69.79] (may be forged)) by shell4.bayarea.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00954; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:27:50 -0700 (envelope-from Dave@Yost.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dayost@mail4.bayarea.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: To: Stefan Kreutter From: Dave Yost Subject: Re: Mac OS X Server not sold at the Apple store ! Cc: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 09:27:59 2000 At 12:05 AM +0200 7/21/00, Stefan Kreutter wrote: >>Our company is going to be buying some new machines soon, and the thought of having to pick up some NT boxes to do WO is not a pleasant one. Rather than go with Windows, you can get older G4s from http://SmallDog.com and no doubt elsewhere. Dave From kieren_macmillan@mac.com Wed Jul 26 09:28:51 2000 Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp1.ab.sympatico.ca [204.101.251.52]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27010 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.209.80.101] (HSE-Toronto-ppp116536.sympatico.ca [216.209.80.101]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05520; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:33:04 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Subject: Re: Converting from an int to a Number From: Kieren Richard MacMillan To: WebObjects Mailing List CC: Tara Hodapp Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1247493801-199709@mcservices.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 09:28:56 2000 Tara: > I was wondering how it is possible take an int (returned from the count > method), add one to it, convert it into a Number and insert it into a > database field that is of type Number? (I need the specific Java code if > possible) This would probably work: object.setField(new Number(int + 1)); Of course, you would then need to save the changes (assuming object is already in the default e.c.): session().defaultEditingContext().saveChanges(); Hope this helps! Kieren. From froy@singleentry.com Wed Jul 26 09:57:30 2000 Received: from kevin.singleentry.com ([216.142.28.235]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29008 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darkman.singleentry.com ([192.168.1.33]) by kevin.singleentry.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id LAA13181 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:57:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200007261657.LAA13181@kevin.singleentry.com> X-Authentication-Warning: kevin.singleentry.com: Host [192.168.1.33] claimed to be darkman.singleentry.com To: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com Subject: WORepetition and background coloring In-Reply-To: <1247493801-199709@mcservices.com> From: Fabien Roy Reply-To: froy@singleentry.com X-Mailer-Extensions: SWSignature 1.3.2 X-Mailer: by Apple MailViewer (2.106) Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 09:57:31 2000 I am looking for an (java) example on how to use different background color on even or odd line of a WORepetition. Thanks. -- _,,---,,,_ /| _,;;-; ._ `'`-.',\ `-'' ) /, ._,-( ( -7,| (_/`-' `--\_)``---` Fabien Roy Singleentry.com 107 RR 620 South, suite 117 Lakeway, TX 78734 Tel: (512) 266-6379 ext 1350 Fax: (512) 266-6375 Mob: (512) 796-9854 http://www.singleentry.com From ESchneider@tiaa-cref.org Wed Jul 26 10:15:54 2000 Received: from pinee.tiaa-cref.org (pine.tiaa-cref.org [143.165.201.18]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA01430 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:15:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Server-Uuid: c05039b5-3570-11d3-84c4-00104bc6b63f Message-ID: <7A69F7FAA422D31195DB0000F6AB4EBB029BAE62@MSXNYUSR02> From: "Schneider, Eric" To: "'froy@singleentry.com'" , Subject: RE: WORepetition and background coloring MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 1561C2FA403836-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com Errors-To: webobjects-talk-admin@omnigroup.com X-BeenThere: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Discussions of Apple's WebObjects Date: Wed Jul 26 10:15:57 2000 Here's one way. in your .java protected NSArray myList; protected Object anObject; //WO Iterator protected int index; //WO Iterator /* Inflate your NSArray in the constructor...or where ever... */ public String backgroundColor() { index = myList.indexOfObject(anObject); return ((index % 2) == 0) ? "#EEEEEE" : "#FFFFFF"; } in your .wod MY_LIST: WORepetition { list = myList; item = anObject; } OBJECT_NAME: WOString { value = anObject.name; //if a method like this on your object exists. } BACKGROUND_COLOR: WOString { value = backgroundColor; } in your .html "> Cheers, Eric. -----Original Message----- From: Fabien Roy [mailto:froy@singleentry.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 12:57 PM To: webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com Subject: WORepetition and background coloring I am looking for an (java) example on how to use different background color on even or odd line of a WORepetition. Thanks. -- _,,---,,,_ /| _,;;-; ._ `'`-.',\ `-'' ) /, ._,-( ( -7,| (_/`-' `--\_)``---` Fabien Roy Singleentry.com 107 RR 620 South, suite 117 Lakeway, TX 78734 Tel: (512) 266-6379 ext 1350 Fax: (512) 266-6375 Mob: (512) 796-9854 http://www.singleentry.com _______________________________________________ WebObjects-talk mailing list WebObjects-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-talk From j-rochkind@nwu.edu Wed Jul 26 10:22:29 2000 Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu (hecky.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.51]) by scyther.omnigroup.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02141 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA20129; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:22:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from NORTHWES-D2QMC7 (nil.it.nwu.edu [129.105.237.36]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma019854; Wed, 26 Jul 00 12:22:10 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000726122111.012ec5c8@hecky.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: jar247@hecky.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 To: froy@singleentry.com, webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com From: Jonathan Rochkind Subject: Re: WORepetition and background coloring In-Reply-To: <200007261657.LAA13181@kevin.singleentry.com