From zaphod at antisocial.com Fri Jun 1 01:17:54 2001 From: zaphod at antisocial.com (Ulf Licht) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO5 localhost problem Message-ID: <18467200165181815982@antisocial.com> Hello list, I recently installed WebObjects 5 and tried to run a simple "Hello World" application. It compiles just fine but when I try to run it I get the following error message: Failed to get localhost address : Cannot be initialized.null A fatal exception occurred:null: : Cannot be initialized. com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException for java.net.UnknownHostException: Heart of Gold You can find the complete output below. The only thing I can think of that might be a reason for this problem is that I modified my /etc/ hostconfig file (replaced "HOSTNAME=-AUTOMATIC-" with "HOSTNAME=Heart of Gold") in order to set the hostname on my machine. Could this be the problem? Did anyone experience a similar problem? Did you find a solution? Regards, Ulf Licht Reading MacOSClassPath.txt ... Launching Showcase.woa ... java -DWORootDirectory="/System" -DWOLocalRootDirectory="/" - DWOUserDirectory="/Users/ulicht/Projects/Showcase/build" -Xms32m - Xmx64m -XX:NewSize=2m -XX:MaxNewSize=32m - XX:ThreadStackSize=128 -classpath "/Users/ulicht/Projects/Showcase/ build/Showcase.woa/Contents/Resources/Java/ Showcase.jar:/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/ Resources/ Java/javafoundation.jar:/System/Library/Frameworks/ JavaEOControl.framework/ Resources/Java/javaeocontrol.jar:/System/Library/Frameworks/ JavaEOAccess.framework/ Resources/Java/javaeoaccess.jar:/System/Library/Frameworks/ JavaWebObjects. framework/Resources/Java/javawebobjects.jar:/System/Library/ Frameworks/JavaJDBCAdaptor. framework/Resources/Java/javajdbcadaptor.jar:/System/Library/ Frameworks/JavaWOExtensions. framework/Resources/Java/javawoextensions.jar:/System/Library/ Frameworks/JavaXML. framework/Resources/Java/javaxml.jar:/Users/ulicht/Library/Java:/Library/ Java: /System/Library/Java:/Network/Library/Java:/System/Library/ Frameworks/JavaVM. framework/Classes/classes.jar:/System/Library/Frameworks/ JavaVM.framework/ Classes/ui.jar" Application WOLifebeatDestinationPort=1085 WOWorkerThreadCount=8 NSProjectSearchPath=("..") WOMaxHeaders=100 WOMaxIOBufferSize=8196 WOListenQueueSize=128 WOCachingEnabled=false WOFrameworksBaseURL=/WebObjects/Frameworks WOAdditionalAdaptors=() WOAdaptor=WODefaultAdaptor WOLifebeatEnabled=true WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling=false WOAllowsCacheControlHeader=true WOSMTPHost=smtp WOSocketMonitorSleepTime=50 WOSessionTimeOut=3600 WOSocketCacheSize=100 WOSessionStoreClassName=WOServerSessionStore WODebuggingEnabled=true WOWorkerThreadCountMin=16 WORootDirectory=/System WOMaxSocketIdleTime=180000 WOUserDirectory=/Users/ulicht/Projects/Showcase/build WOWorkerThreadCountMax=256 WOMonitorEnabled=false WODirectConnectEnabled=true WOAdaptorURL=http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects WOPort=-1 WOApplicationBaseURL=/WebObjects WOAutoOpenInBrowser=true WOLifebeatInterval=30 WOLocalRootDirectory=/ WOIncludeCommentsInResponse=false ------------------------ Failed to get localhost address : Cannot be initialized.null A fatal exception occurred:null: : Cannot be initialized. com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException for java.net.UnknownHostException: Heart of Gold at java.net.InetAddress.getAllByName0(InetAddress.java:571) at java.net.InetAddress.getAllByName0(InetAddress.java:540) at java.net.InetAddress.getAllByName(InetAddress.java:533) at java.net.InetAddress.getLocalHost(InetAddress.java:723) at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODefaultAdaptor. (WODefaultAdaptor.java:65) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Native Method) at com.webobjects.foundation._NSUtilities.instantiateObject(_NSUtilities.ja va: 422) at com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.adaptorWithName(WOApplic ation.java: 532) at com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication._initAdaptors(WOApplication. java:568) at com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication. (WOApplication.java:252) at Application.(Application.java:19) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:237) at com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.main(WOApplication.java:185 ) at Application.main(Application.java:15) Showcase.woa has exited with status 1. _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com From timct at mac.com Fri Jun 1 01:26:30 2001 From: timct at mac.com (Tim Trautmann) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO5 localhost problem In-Reply-To: <18467200165181815982@antisocial.com> Message-ID: Hallo Ulf, I had the same problem and the fix is easy. I am assuming you are runnin WO5 on a machine that is using DHCP to get it's ip. I am doing this, and my hostnames are always screwed up. So, here is what you need to do (this worked for me, no guarantees that it will work for you): 1. Open up a Terminal window. 2. Type in the following: sudo hostname localhost 3. You will be prompted for the administrative password. Enter it. 4. Voila, you are set. 5. Re-run your WeboObjects app. Tim on 6/1/01 1:18 AM, Ulf Licht at zaphod@antisocial.com wrote: > Hello list, > > I recently installed WebObjects 5 and tried to run a simple "Hello World" > application. It compiles just fine but when I try to run it I get the > following > error message: > From timct at mac.com Fri Jun 1 01:39:57 2001 From: timct at mac.com (Tim Trautmann) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO5 localhost problem In-Reply-To: <18467200165181815982@antisocial.com> Message-ID: Ulf, Oops, I was reading way too fast. This will definitely cause trouble. Heart of Gold with spaces like that is not a valid hostname. I am not sure where that is coming from? Anyways. Make this -AUTOMATIC- again and it should work, otherwise follow my localhost instructions from my earlier e-mail and that might fix it completely. Tim on 6/1/01 1:18 AM, Ulf Licht at zaphod@antisocial.com wrote: > java.net.UnknownHostException: Heart of Gold From lscurnutt at itic.org Mon Jun 4 08:11:58 2001 From: lscurnutt at itic.org (Curnutt, Lynn Smith) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: Need local WebObjects developer Message-ID: We are running WebObjects on OSX server with FrontBase. We serve with WebStar using the WOadaptor. We're looking for someone local (Washington DC area) to provide further development of our application and site and troubleshooting on a consulting/contract basis. Please respond to me offline. thanks. Lynn ******************** Lynn Smith Curnutt Director, Info Tech Systems ITI voice: 202-626-5745 fax: 202-638-4922 mailto:lscurnutt@itic.org From tbarker at landendigital.com Mon Jun 4 11:46:29 2001 From: tbarker at landendigital.com (Tom Barker) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO4.5 on OS X 10.0 Message-ID: <200106041851.f54Ipqo11279@mail.landendigital.com> Has anyone setup WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0? We are wanting to upgrade or server but we do not (at this time) want to upgrade to WO5.0. Looking for pitfalls/special settings or such that others may have encountered in running WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0. TIA, Tom From chad at objectwerks.com Mon Jun 4 11:52:52 2001 From: chad at objectwerks.com (Chad Leigh, Objectwerks, Inc.) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO4.5 on OS X 10.0 In-Reply-To: <200106041851.f54Ipqo11279@mail.landendigital.com> Message-ID: <3823859826.991666337@[192.168.99.123]> As long as you are NOT using Java, you should check out 4.5.1. If you are using Java, you need to go to 5 or stay where you are at. Chad --On Monday, June 04, 2001 2:44 PM -0400 Tom Barker wrote: > Has anyone setup WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0? We are wanting to upgrade > or server but we do not (at this time) want to upgrade to WO5.0. > Looking for pitfalls/special settings or such that others may have > encountered in running WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0. > TIA, > Tom > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin > From brian_hill at unioncab.com Mon Jun 4 11:59:13 2001 From: brian_hill at unioncab.com (Brian Hill) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO4.5 on OS X 10.0 In-Reply-To: <200106041851.f54Ipqo11279@mail.landendigital.com> Message-ID: On Monday, June 4, 2001, at 01:44 PM, Tom Barker wrote: > Has anyone setup WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0? We are wanting to upgrade > or server but we do not (at this time) want to upgrade to WO5.0. > Looking for pitfalls/special settings or such that others may have > encountered in running WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0. I'm about 99.9% sure that WO4.5p3 won't run on OSXS 10.0. You should be able to get WO 4.5.1 running on OSX 10.0 (use the OSX 10.0 install). Unfortunately, as has been mentioned here previously and elsewhere, none of the Cocoa/GUI stuff works on WO 4.5.1, and it doesn't look like it will be fixed at any point... Brian brianhill@mac.com http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_hill ___________________________________________________________ "Why? I came into this game for adventure - go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they've got the whole country sectioned off and you can't move without a form. I'm the last of a breed." -- Archibald "Harry" Tuttle, Rogue HVAC Repairman ___________________________________________________________ From sas1 at rettew.com Mon Jun 4 12:14:36 2001 From: sas1 at rettew.com (Steve Schick) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO Java Client Message-ID: Has anyone successfully developed and deployed a WO Java Client app? I can successfully create a simple WO Java Client app and run it in Project Builder with Direct Connect with no problem. When I try to deploy it by using an install build, and connect to the site, it only runs on systems with WO installed. I suppose it is because the classes and paths are already set. As the applet loads it seems to find jar files it needs but eventually it returns the error: class com.apple.client.eoapplication.EOApplet not found I get the same behavior from the Studio Manager sample application. Is there a different procedure to deploy WO Java Client apps compared to a "normal" html app? Do the makefiles need changed for a WO Java Client app? How do I get the client app to "see" the needed class files? Any help is much appreciated. Steve Schick RETTEW Associates, Inc. 3020 Columbia Avenue Lancaster, PA 17603 USA http://www.rettew.com Voice: (717)394-3721 Fax: (717)394-1063 Email: sas1@rettew.com From trf at apple.com Mon Jun 4 12:19:25 2001 From: trf at apple.com (Todd Fernandez) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO4.5 on OS X 10.0 In-Reply-To: <200106041851.f54Ipqo11279@mail.landendigital.com> Message-ID: <200106041919.f54JJDk19859@scv2.apple.com> Tom, et al, > On Monday, June 4, 2001, at 01:44 PM, Tom Barker wrote: > > > Has anyone setup WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0? We are wanting to upgrade > > or server but we do not (at this time) want to upgrade to WO5.0. > > Looking for pitfalls/special settings or such that others may have > > encountered in running WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0. > > I'm about 99.9% sure that WO4.5p3 won't run on OSXS 10.0. You should be > able to get WO 4.5.1 running on OSX 10.0 (use the OSX 10.0 install). Brian is 100% correct. WebObjects 4.5.1 (ObjC) or WebObjects 5 (Java) is what you need for MOSXS 10.0. WebObjects 4.5 (plus any updates) will not run on Mac OS X (Server) 10.0. Todd From leonardo at americanas.com.br Mon Jun 4 12:33:51 2001 From: leonardo at americanas.com.br (Leonardo Pinheiro) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: logging page hits received through direct actions Message-ID: Hi all, Does anybody know how to log the hits I have in a Component when it's being accessed through a direct action? The method descriptionForResponse() doesn't seem to work in this case.. Thank's in advance Leonardo From sanguish at digifix.com Mon Jun 4 15:16:15 2001 From: sanguish at digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO4.5 on OS X 10.0 In-Reply-To: <200106041919.f54JJDk19859@scv2.apple.com> Message-ID: On Monday, June 4, 2001, at 03:19 PM, Todd Fernandez wrote: > Tom, et al, > >> On Monday, June 4, 2001, at 01:44 PM, Tom Barker wrote: >> >>> Has anyone setup WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0? We are wanting to upgrade >>> or server but we do not (at this time) want to upgrade to WO5.0. >>> Looking for pitfalls/special settings or such that others may have >>> encountered in running WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0. >> >> I'm about 99.9% sure that WO4.5p3 won't run on OSXS 10.0. You should be >> able to get WO 4.5.1 running on OSX 10.0 (use the OSX 10.0 install). > > Brian is 100% correct. WebObjects 4.5.1 (ObjC) or WebObjects 5 (Java) > is what you need for MOSXS 10.0. WebObjects 4.5 (plus any updates) > will not run on Mac OS X (Server) 10.0. > just out of curiousity.. how correct is he on this other part.. > Unfortunately, as has been mentioned here previously and elsewhere, > none of the Cocoa/GUI stuff works on WO 4.5.1, and it doesn't look like > it will be fixed at any point... I think we all know the answer.. This issue may be just coming back to 'haunt' Apple, but it's doing A LOT WORSE to some of us than just 'haunting' us. From nat at mulle-kybernetik.com Mon Jun 4 15:46:33 2001 From: nat at mulle-kybernetik.com (Nat!) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO4.5 on OS X 10.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106042246.PAA24068@omnigroup.com> Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2001 um 00:15 schrieb Scott Anguish: > > On Monday, June 4, 2001, at 03:19 PM, Todd Fernandez wrote: > >> Tom, et al, >> >>> On Monday, June 4, 2001, at 01:44 PM, Tom Barker wrote: >>> >>>> Has anyone setup WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0? We are wanting to upgrade >>>> or server but we do not (at this time) want to upgrade to WO5.0. >>>> Looking for pitfalls/special settings or such that others may have >>>> encountered in running WO4.5p3 on OS XS 10.0. >>> >>> I'm about 99.9% sure that WO4.5p3 won't run on OSXS 10.0. You should >>> be >>> able to get WO 4.5.1 running on OSX 10.0 (use the OSX 10.0 install). >> >> Brian is 100% correct. WebObjects 4.5.1 (ObjC) or WebObjects 5 (Java) >> is what you need for MOSXS 10.0. WebObjects 4.5 (plus any updates) >> will not run on Mac OS X (Server) 10.0. >> > > just out of curiousity.. how correct is he on this other part.. > > > >> Unfortunately, as has been mentioned here previously and elsewhere, >> none of the Cocoa/GUI stuff works on WO 4.5.1, and it doesn't look >> like it will be fixed at any point... > > I think we all know the answer.. > > This issue may be just coming back to 'haunt' Apple, but it's doing A > LOT WORSE to some of us than just 'haunting' us. If they sell you a software and it parts of it don't work (EOInterface /EOPalette) and the vendor refuses to fix it, isn't that reason enough to drag them to court ? I mean Apple even promised that that stuff would work last November (read the "for existing customers" line in that Ernie letter on StepWise...). Have they outright lied to developers (again) ? Nat! From sanguish at digifix.com Mon Jun 4 16:18:33 2001 From: sanguish at digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO4.5 on OS X 10.0 In-Reply-To: <200106042246.PAA24068@omnigroup.com> Message-ID: On Monday, June 4, 2001, at 06:44 PM, Nat! wrote: >> >> >>> Unfortunately, as has been mentioned here previously and elsewhere, >>> none of the Cocoa/GUI stuff works on WO 4.5.1, and it doesn't look >>> like it will be fixed at any point... >> >> I think we all know the answer.. >> >> This issue may be just coming back to 'haunt' Apple, but it's doing A >> LOT WORSE to some of us than just 'haunting' us. > > If they sell you a software and it parts of it don't work (EOInterface > /EOPalette) and the vendor refuses to fix it, isn't that reason enough > to drag them to court ? I mean Apple even promised that that stuff > would work last November (read the "for existing customers" line in > that Ernie letter on StepWise...). Actually, that letter was in January at MacWorld as I recall. So even more recent. But who can afford to sue them? > Have they outright lied to developers (again) ? What an implication! :-) From ian at cleanpix.com Wed Jun 6 08:41:17 2001 From: ian at cleanpix.com (Ian McDougall) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: libhttpd.ep Message-ID: WO4.5p3, Solaris 7 I'm using Apache and the Apache adaptor on Solaris. I've noticed that a process called 'libhttpd.ep' gets spawned everytime a connection is established. What is 'libhttpd.ep' and what are the implications of it being spawned for every connection (i.e. if this is the case, what is the point of using the Apache module?) Thanks. _ _ _ Ian McDougall ian@cleanpix.com From j-rochkind at nwu.edu Wed Jun 6 09:48:57 2001 From: j-rochkind at nwu.edu (Jonathan Rochkind) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO5, deploy on Solaris? Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010606115249.020b78c0@hecky.acns.nwu.edu> So I just got a box of WO5. Once the shop moves to WO5 entirely, we are planning on deploying on Solaris, something I have not done before (we have a new Solaris machine, currently unused). So I want to begin my installing on Solaris and testing a simple hello world app, maybe with a simple database connection too to make sure that part works, on Solaris. How do I do this? I don't believe the development tools exist on Solaris. Do I need to install WO5 on a windows or OSX dev machine too? Then I make the hello world app, and how do I get it compiled/installed/deployed on Solaris? As usual, there seems to be no documentation whatsoever on this process. Any hints are appreciated. --Jonathan From smmccraw at cicada.com Wed Jun 6 10:09:45 2001 From: smmccraw at cicada.com (Steven Mark McCraw) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: WO5, deploy on Solaris? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010606115249.020b78c0@hecky.acns.nwu.edu> Message-ID: <1220274963-25413408@cicada.com> Hi Jonathan, WO5 should come with deployment scripts for Solaris on the CD. Although I've only done this with 4.5, I would imagine that you just go to the appropriately marked place on the CD and run the install scripts. Then you just ftp your project over, do a pbxbuild install, and either launch your application directly from the command line or register it with wotaskd via Monitor. Hope this helps. Sincerely, Mark On Wednesday, June 6, 2001, at 12:54 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > So I just got a box of WO5. Once the shop moves to WO5 entirely, we > are planning on deploying on Solaris, something I have not done before > (we have a new Solaris machine, currently unused). > > So I want to begin my installing on Solaris and testing a simple hello > world app, maybe with a simple database connection too to make sure > that part works, on Solaris. How do I do this? I don't believe the > development tools exist on Solaris. Do I need to install WO5 on a > windows or OSX dev machine too? Then I make the hello world app, and > how do I get it compiled/installed/deployed on Solaris? > > As usual, there seems to be no documentation whatsoever on this > process. Any hints are appreciated. > > --Jonathan > > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin > From Albert-Lunde at northwestern.edu Thu Jun 7 12:35:24 2001 From: Albert-Lunde at northwestern.edu (Albert Lunde) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:58 2005 Subject: Requirements for databases for WebObjects 5? Message-ID: What is, or where can I find, a description of the requirements on databases for them to be used with WebObjects 5? We are looking at a case where we'd be developing on Mac OS X, but a test and a production web/webobjects server would be located on two Windows 2000 boxes. A particular (perhaps ugly) case we may be looking at is whether an Oracle 7.3.4 located on another Unix box, could be used with Web Objects. -- Albert Lunde Albert-Lunde@northwestern.edu (new address) Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (old address) From smmccraw at cicada.com Thu Jun 7 13:12:13 2001 From: smmccraw at cicada.com (Steven Mark McCraw) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Requirements for databases for WebObjects 5? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1220177616-31274148@cicada.com> Hi Albert, My understanding is that you can use any database with a JDBC adaptor. Sincerely, Mark McCraw smmccraw@cicada.com > On Thursday, June 7, 2001, at 03:34 PM, Albert Lunde wrote: > > What is, or where can I find, a description of the requirements on > databases for them to be used with WebObjects 5? > > We are looking at a case where we'd be developing on Mac OS X, but a > test and a production web/webobjects server would be located on two > Windows 2000 boxes. > > A particular (perhaps ugly) case we may be looking at is whether an > Oracle 7.3.4 located on another Unix box, could be used with Web > Objects. > -- Albert Lunde Albert-Lunde@northwestern.edu (new address) > Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (old address) > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin > webobjects-admin@omnigroup.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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TIA, Kym Farnik ------------------- | kym@recalldesign.com | direct: +61 8 8217 0556 Recall Design Pty Ltd | www.recalldesign.com | telephone: +61 8 8217 0500 53 Gilbert Street | | fax: +61 8 8217 0555 Adelaide SA 5000 | | mobile: 0438 014 007 All the world's an analog stage, and digital circuits play only bit parts -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Check out http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/webobjects/DeploymentAdditions/adaptors for full details. I assume you are trying to connect to your app through your webserver, not direct connect. If you go through the web server, the new 4.5.1 behavior is to only send requests to applications that were launched from Monitor. You can still get to apps that monitor didn't launch (like Monitor...chicken and egg...) by appending the instance ID. Look at http://localhost:1085 to find out the instance ids of your running instances. It will be a negative number for anything that Monitor didn't launch. Then, go to http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Monitor.woa/-1234 and you should be able to talk. What I would like to know though, is if there is a special command line argument that we can give a WOApp (during development) to behave as if it were launched under Monitor as far as the adaptor selection algorithm is concerned. From kym at recalldesign.com Thu Jun 7 21:37:21 2001 From: kym at recalldesign.com (Kym Farnik) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WO 4.5.1 upgrade on W2k IIS5 - Does not work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Mike. This sorted out the problem. In summary: 1. WO Monitor started as NT service (deployment mode) 2. Get the URL for Monitor CMD prompt look at SiteConfig.conf, find line with Password = telnet 1085 GET / password: Find -1234 for monitor instance ID. (eg. -1032 or similar) 3. Use your favorite browser... https:///cgi-bin/WebObjects/Monitor.woa/-1032 I concur with Mike's comment about making Monitor behave as if it was launched by itself; ie you don't need the -port bit. Thanks, Kym > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Laster [mailto:mike@marketocracy.com] > Sent: Friday, 8 June 2001 11:14 > To: Kym Farnik > Cc: webobjects-dev@omnigroup.com; webobjects-admin@omnigroup.com > Subject: Re: WO 4.5.1 upgrade on W2k IIS5 - Does not work > > > > Hi > > We have just tried the WO4.5.1 upgrade on Windows 2000 server. > > Followed instructions (uninstalled 4.5) etc. > > Cannot get any applications to run, including Monitor. > > Anyone know why? > > Is there any thing I can fix? > > Registry? > > > > PS: Uninstalled, reinstalled 4.5 + patch 3 and all is well, except for > > the > > bugs in 4.5 :-( - which is why we want 4.5.1!! > > > > TIA, Kym Farnik > > ------------------- | kym@recalldesign.com | direct: +61 8 8217 > > 0556 > > Recall Design Pty Ltd | www.recalldesign.com | telephone: +61 8 8217 > > 0500 > > 53 Gilbert Street | | fax: +61 8 8217 > > 0555 > > Adelaide SA 5000 | | mobile: 0438 014 007 > > All the world's an analog stage, and digital circuits play only bit > > parts > > I just ran into this problem myself, and it drove me nuts for the longest > time. > > Check out > http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/webobjects/DeploymentAdditions /adaptors for full details. I assume you are trying to connect to your app through your webserver, not direct connect. If you go through the web server, the new 4.5.1 behavior is to only send requests to applications that were launched from Monitor. You can still get to apps that monitor didn't launch (like Monitor...chicken and egg...) by appending the instance ID. Look at http://localhost:1085 to find out the instance ids of your running instances. It will be a negative number for anything that Monitor didn't launch. Then, go to http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Monitor.woa/-1234 and you should be able to talk. What I would like to know though, is if there is a special command line argument that we can give a WOApp (during development) to behave as if it were launched under Monitor as far as the adaptor selection algorithm is concerned. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We have a potential > customer asking us what the long term support of WebObjects4.5 looks > like. > Considering that their support for EOF/Cocoa was stated definitively as recently as January, I'm not sure that any long-term statement would be trustworthy anyways. From abrinson at ogse.com Mon Jun 11 06:18:28 2001 From: abrinson at ogse.com (Anthony O. Brinson) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WOF4.5p3 Monitor and 'error updating running state'... Message-ID: Herman (and all), We are experiencing this problem as well, and I have a couple of quick follow-up questions. Would these changes disable all stats in Monitor? If so, how can you tell if you have active sessions going in case of the need to recycle an application? Environment: OS: HP-UX 11.0 (64-bit) running Apache 1.3.12 DB: Oracle 8i (8.1.6) Thanks! -Tony Anthony Brinson Internet Programmer - Microsoft Certified Professional Orion Group Software Engineers abrinson@ogse.com (219) 233-3401 ext. 257 http://www.ogse.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Hermann R?scheisen [SMTP:hrnews@medienwerft.de] > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:08 AM > To: Howie; webobjects-admin@omnigroup.com > Subject: Re: WOF4.5p3 Monitor and 'error updating running state'... > > > like some others, I have a continuing problem with 4.5's Monitor ( > Solaris > > 2.6 ). for whatever reason, Monitor developed an issue approximately 2 > > weeks or so ago. it's now logging lots of "error updating running state > > on host '" errors to stdout. > > Hi Howie, > > I assume you write your own statistics or there's an invalid (e. g. > "null") > entry in your statistics so it has an format webobjects can't parse. We > had > the same problem and were able to reproduce it by invoking an > unimplemented > Direct Action (like the favico.ico Action fired by Internet Explorer). > > We work around by overwriting the statistics() method in our Session to > return an empty array. > > // overwritten method from WOSession > // for wotaskd and Monitor only > public NSArray statistics() > { > return new NSArray(); > } > > // Method for ourselves > public NSArray getStatistics() > { > return super.statistics(); > } > > Hope this helps, > > Hermann. > ______________________________________________________________________ > MEDIENWERFT - Agentur f?r digitale Medien und Kommunikation mbH > > Hermann R?scheisen | hroescheisen@medienwerft.de > Gro?e Freiheit 70 | 22767 Hamburg | Germany > Fon +49(0)40-31.77.99-0 | Fax +49(0)40-31.77.99-111 > http://www.medienwerft.de > > Mitgliedschaften: > Deutscher Direktmarketing Verband e.V. | hamburg.newmedia.network e.V. > > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin From caffeine at toodarkpark.org Mon Jun 11 18:37:40 2001 From: caffeine at toodarkpark.org (Howie) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WOF4.5p3 Monitor and 'error updating running state'... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106120137.SAA04429@omnigroup.com> On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 09:17 AM, Anthony O. Brinson wrote: > Herman (and all), > > We are experiencing this problem as well, and I have a couple of quick > follow-up questions. welcome to the club. > Would these changes disable all stats in Monitor? yes, because of the way wotaskd and Monitor communicate. one would expect that wotaskd, being in charge of the machine its running on, would query its list of apps running on localhost, then provide that list to Monitor next time it asks. this is, sadly, not the case -- it's Monitor's job to query all the app instances to get the stats. not only that, but Monitor sends a (sometimes lengthy) file back to each wotaskd, which is where the 'error updating running state' issue comes into play. if you're at all interested in the convoluted way Monitor and wotaskd talk to one another, i can forward you an email explaining it all. beware, however, that you may be sickened by it. you'll probably ask the same questions i did, like "um, why does Monitor need to maintain state? isnt this wotaskd's job?" and "uh, why does Monitor send its configuration file back to each wotaskd?" > If so, how can you tell if > you have active sessions going in case of the need to recycle an > application? by hitting the WOStats page for each instance you're running. i kid you not. the only way ive been able to fix the problem ( i havent rebooted the machines ) was to bring down wotaskd and Monitor, rm their config files, and readd all the apps. or you could reboot, but rebooting is for Microsoft people. :) From oliver at boinx.com Tue Jun 12 02:17:24 2001 From: oliver at boinx.com (Oliver Breidenbach) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WO 5 state of the product? Message-ID: Hi people, having embarked on the adventure called "converting to WebObjects 5" I wonder if anyone has gotten anything deployed successfully. So far, I heard a lot of negatives about WO 5. Some people claim that the database access with JDBC does not work completely, others claim that there are severe bugs in EOF and elsewhere. I myself am fighting with the deployment installation of HelloWorld... I?d love to move to WO 5 as soon as possible, throwing all care asside, because that would give me hardware to develop on. However, I?d like to see something that works to reassure me that it is worth it in the long run... Any pointers/comments appreciated. Cheers, Oliver. From gabartnick at hostscorp.com Tue Jun 12 08:52:18 2001 From: gabartnick at hostscorp.com (Greg A. Bartnick) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Slow 4.5.1 Monitor Message-ID: Hello, I recently upgraded my app servers to WO 4.5.1 and have noticed that Monitor now seems very slow compared to WO 4.5. What changed? It seems like it is waiting on some timeouts or something. How do I make it faster, it is almost unusable. Thanks in advance! greg ______________ Greg Bartnick Software Engineer HOSTS Corporation - www.hosts.com Phone (360) 258-3520 From jkeenan at apple.com Tue Jun 12 10:50:52 2001 From: jkeenan at apple.com (Joe Keenan) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: <200106081358.GAA11121@omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <200106121750.KAA08597@scv3.apple.com> On Friday, June 8, 2001, at 03:59 AM, Geoff Hopson wrote: > Subject says it all - is there one somewhere? We have a potential > customer asking us what the long term support of WebObjects4.5 looks > like. > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin > WebObjects 4.5 or WebObjects 4.5.1? There is no long-term support for WO 4.5 - it has been replaced by 4.5.1. We have not published an EOL date for WO 4.5.1, but it won't be anytime soon. We realize that Obj-C users will take some time to convert to Java (and upgrade to WO 5 or subsequent releases). What do you (or your customer) consider "long-term"? joe --- Joe Keenan Manager, Apple iServices Technical Support From brian_hill at unioncab.com Tue Jun 12 11:26:36 2001 From: brian_hill at unioncab.com (Brian Hill) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: <200106121750.KAA08597@scv3.apple.com> Message-ID: Hello, On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, at 12:50 PM, Joe Keenan wrote: > On Friday, June 8, 2001, at 03:59 AM, Geoff Hopson wrote: > >> Subject says it all - is there one somewhere? We have a potential >> customer asking us what the long term support of WebObjects4.5 looks >> like. >> _______________________________________________ >> WebObjects-admin mailing list >> WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin >> > > > WebObjects 4.5 or WebObjects 4.5.1? There is no long-term support for > WO 4.5 - it has been replaced by 4.5.1. We have not published an EOL > date for WO 4.5.1, but it won't be anytime soon. We realize that Obj-C > users will take some time to convert to Java (and upgrade to WO 5 or > subsequent releases). > What do you (or your customer) consider "long-term"? > > joe > > --- > Joe Keenan > Manager, Apple iServices Technical Support > Since you've taken the time to write, let me ask you directly: Will the EOPalette.palette from WO 4.5.1 for OSX get fixed or not? If it's not going to be fixed, then WO 4.5.1 is not supported on OSX as of today, true? It's just a single palette -- will it be fixed? Thanks, Brian brianhill@mac.com http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_hill ___________________________________________________________ "Why? I came into this game for adventure - go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they've got the whole country sectioned off and you can't move without a form. I'm the last of a breed." -- Archibald "Harry" Tuttle, Rogue HVAC Repairman ___________________________________________________________ From jkeenan at apple.com Tue Jun 12 12:09:59 2001 From: jkeenan at apple.com (Joe Keenan) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106121909.f5CJ95w20864@scv2.apple.com> > Since you've taken the time to write, let me ask you directly: > > Will the EOPalette.palette from WO 4.5.1 for OSX get fixed or not? If > it's not going to be fixed, then WO 4.5.1 is not supported on OSX as of > today, true? > > It's just a single palette -- will it be fixed? > > Thanks, > > Brian The EOPalette.palette is not required for development of three-tier WebObjects application server programs. Three-tier application server development is the published functionality of WebObjects, and WebObjects 4.5.1 is supported for that usage. Any further questions about what functionality is part of the supported WebObjects tool set should be directed to WebObjects Product Marketing (Ernie Prabhakar and Bob Fraser). And it's not just a single palette. joe --- Joe Keenan Manager, Apple iServices Technical Support 703-264-5364 From brian_hill at unioncab.com Tue Jun 12 12:23:43 2001 From: brian_hill at unioncab.com (Brian Hill) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: <200106121909.f5CJ95w20864@scv2.apple.com> Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, at 02:09 PM, Joe Keenan wrote: > The EOPalette.palette is not required for development of three-tier > WebObjects application server programs. Three-tier application server > development is the published functionality of WebObjects, and > WebObjects 4.5.1 is supported for that usage. 'Published functionality'? Published where? This is the first I've heard that Cocoa thick clients were NOT part of the published functionality of WebObjects. Brian brianhill@mac.com http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_hill ___________________________________________________________ "Why? I came into this game for adventure - go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they've got the whole country sectioned off and you can't move without a form. I'm the last of a breed." -- Archibald "Harry" Tuttle, Rogue HVAC Repairman ___________________________________________________________ From ZiyaOz at earthlink.net Tue Jun 12 12:37:12 2001 From: ZiyaOz at earthlink.net (Ziya Oz) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brian Hill wrote: > 'Published functionality'? Published where? This is the first I've heard > that Cocoa thick clients were NOT part of the published functionality of > WebObjects. **** Ziya From brian_hill at unioncab.com Tue Jun 12 12:45:54 2001 From: brian_hill at unioncab.com (Brian Hill) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, at 02:36 PM, Ziya Oz wrote: > >> 'Published functionality'? Published where? This is the first I've >> heard >> that Cocoa thick clients were NOT part of the published functionality >> of >> WebObjects. > > > > **** > Ziya To quote from that page: Two-tier Cocoa clients on Mac OS X * Provides a fully native UI that's tightly integrated with Mac OS X technologies ?* Includes sophisticated multilingual string manipulation using the Cocoa text engine ?* Ensures that stand-alone applications access the database directly, without requiring a web server Granted, this is for WO5 presumably, but nowhere have I seen a warning that this is not possible with WO 4.5.1 (other than the primal screams occasionally seen on this mailing list). Brian brianhill@mac.com http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_hill ___________________________________________________________ "Why? I came into this game for adventure - go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they've got the whole country sectioned off and you can't move without a form. I'm the last of a breed." -- Archibald "Harry" Tuttle, Rogue HVAC Repairman ___________________________________________________________ From dke at mackido.com Tue Jun 12 13:00:38 2001 From: dke at mackido.com (Dave Every) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: <200106121750.KAA08597@scv3.apple.com> Message-ID: > > WebObjects 4.5 or WebObjects 4.5.1? There is no long-term support for > WO 4.5 - it has been replaced by 4.5.1. We have not published an EOL > date for WO 4.5.1, but it won't be anytime soon. We realize that Obj-C > users will take some time to convert to Java (and upgrade to WO 5 or > subsequent releases). > > What do you (or your customer) consider "long-term"? I'd personally consider that if I can't run my 4.5 apps on OSX, then it failed to be FULLY supported. Since my 4.5 app was in Java, and that won't run on OSX (even bridged), I don't feel like I've been *FULLY* supported. So at best -- WO4.5.1 is already become a partially supported version of 4.5. This problem could have been minimized with an easy migration path to 5.0 (though there still should have been bridged support)...however, after weeks of part time work on it, I'm on my last effort to get my relatively small and simple apps working on WO5 on OSX -- which is to backup the entire drive... Reformat... Reinstall OSX completely... Then WO5 completely... Then not to try to migrate the project, but just to recreate it manually, in the hopes that might be the magic steps to actually get the thing to work. If that doesn't work, I can get tomcat working on OSX with less effort -- and even with the new learning curve, my productivity will go up as compared to this WO hacking stuff... And heck, I can get some more documentation as well... Think about how tired a programmer must be to be willing to throw away years of a learning curve to go to something else, and you might be getting the tip of the iceberg. I'm sorry to sound pissed off, but after waiting 2 1/2 years to be able to run WO on the latest Apple hardware (with documentation and support), my patience is growing a bit thin. It has been a month since WWDC, and Apple had dozens of comments and issues, and they haven't even stated when or if any of the issues will be addressed. (Rumors of an update don't count -- only communications). WebObjects support should not be a big secret -- we should be kept informed about what's coming, and what's going on with issues, etc... -- David K. Every From brendan at clickspace.com Tue Jun 12 14:20:43 2001 From: brendan at clickspace.com (Brendan Duddridge) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Sun Netra T1 vs PowerMac G4 with ReportMill. G4 Smokes Netra! In-Reply-To: <200106111919.MAA19659@lists.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: Hi, We've been doing some performance comparisons between our development machines (G4's) and our deployment machines (Netra T1s). To generate a 118 page ReportMill report takes 1 minute on the G4 and 3 minutes on the Netra T1. Development machine: PowerMac G4/400 Mhz, 192 MB of RAM MacOS X Server 1.2 WebObjects 4.5 Patch 3 ReportMill 4.5 Database connection to another Netra T1 (FrontBase) Deployment Machine: Sun Netra T1/440 Mhz, 512 MB of RAM Solaris 8 WebObjects 4.5 Patch 3 ReportMill 4.5 Database connection to the same different Netra T1 (FrontBase) as the G4 Is ReportMill slower on Solaris than on MacOS X Server 1.2? Or do WebObjects apps execute faster on G4s in general than on Sun's of a roughly equivalent megahertz rating? We had no other WO apps or major processes running on the Netras. In fact, we ran one test that had about 10 WO apps running on the Netra and the report took 5 minutes to generate. Once we shutdown those 10 apps, the Netra took only 3 minutes. Still, the G4 was 3 times faster than the Sun! Thanks, ___________________________ Brendan Duddridge ClickSpace Interactive Inc. Calgary & Vancouver, Canada (403) 277-5591 http://www.clickspace.com From sanguish at digifix.com Tue Jun 12 15:15:24 2001 From: sanguish at digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: <200106121909.f5CJ95w20864@scv2.apple.com> Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, at 03:09 PM, Joe Keenan wrote: > > The EOPalette.palette is not required for development of three-tier > WebObjects application server programs. Three-tier application server > development is the published functionality of WebObjects, and > WebObjects 4.5.1 is supported for that usage. > This is rather revisionist considering the statements made previously. > Any further questions about what functionality is part of the supported > WebObjects tool set should be directed to WebObjects Product Marketing > (Ernie Prabhakar and Bob Fraser). > Well, we've had Ernie's statements on this... they were specific, and said that Obj-C/Cocoa apps were a SUPPORTED portion of WOF 4.5.1 I'm aware nobody gives a rat's ass about this within Apple. They don't care about me, or my job. But I'm sick and tired of being screwed over by this company. It was stated SPECIFICALLY, BY PRODUCT MARKETING, that EOF/Obj- C/Cocoa would be supported on OS X, through WOF 4.5.1. We made plans based on that. So, again, this calls into question how Apple can say that they have long-term support for WOF 4.5.1 when there has been no short-term support of it. From tuparev at mac.com Tue Jun 12 15:52:14 2001 From: tuparev at mac.com (Georg Tuparev) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: <200106121750.KAA08597@scv3.apple.com> Message-ID: <200106122244.PAA12898@smtpout.mac.com> You better realize that pissed off ObjC users will write an open version of EOF. I am just writing a paper comparing Java vs ObjC programmer's productivity based on over 200 man years of XP projects. In few words: average ObjC programmer is 32% more productive then average Java programmer. I'm teaching WO in Java, I'm cutting client's projects in Java (if they pay and do not run out of business), but I will never put my own business on Java! Of course I will publish my paper when ready... gt On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, at 07:50 PM, Joe Keenan wrote: > We realize that Obj-C users will take some time to convert to Java (and > upgrade to WO 5 or subsequent releases). Georg Tuparev Klipper 13 1186 VR Amstelveen The Netherlands Mobile: +31-6-55798196 From sanguish at digifix.com Tue Jun 12 16:12:06 2001 From: sanguish at digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: <200106122306.QAA28511@smtpout.mac.com> Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, at 07:07 PM, Georg Tuparev wrote: > On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 12:13 AM, Scott Anguish wrote: > >> I'm aware nobody gives a rat's ass about this within Apple. They >> don't care about me, or my job. But I'm sick and tired of being >> screwed over by this company. >> > You are not alone Scott! no.. but still, it's seems to be an accurate statement. > >> It was stated SPECIFICALLY, BY PRODUCT MARKETING, that EOF/Obj- >> C/Cocoa would be supported on OS X, through WOF 4.5.1. We made plans >> based on that. > > Well, in our case we made something more then plans - we produced 150k > lines of source... 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How do I make it > faster, it is almost unusable. > ______________ > Greg Bartnick > Software Engineer > HOSTS Corporation - www.hosts.com > Phone (360) 258-3520 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 2203 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/webobjects-admin/attachments/20010612/f0c59d24/smime.bin From tuparev at mac.com Tue Jun 12 16:29:31 2001 From: tuparev at mac.com (Georg Tuparev) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: <200106121909.f5CJ95w20864@scv2.apple.com> Message-ID: <200106122257.PAA27146@smtpout.mac.com> Well, here we go: Here a quote from an email sent by Ernie Prabhakar to the WebObjects mailing list last November: "For existing customers, we will also provide EOF/Objective-C as a separate product, for use with Cocoa applications." Where is this product? What should I do with tons of ObjC code? Does Apple keep promises? gt On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, at 09:09 PM, Joe Keenan wrote: > The EOPalette.palette is not required for development of three-tier > WebObjects application server programs. Three-tier application server > development is the published functionality of WebObjects, and > WebObjects 4.5.1 is supported for that usage. > > Any further questions about what functionality is part of the supported > WebObjects tool set should be directed to WebObjects Product Marketing > (Ernie Prabhakar and Bob Fraser). Georg Tuparev Klipper 13 1186 VR Amstelveen The Netherlands Mobile: +31-6-55798196 From tuparev at mac.com Tue Jun 12 17:16:41 2001 From: tuparev at mac.com (Georg Tuparev) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Definitive Statement from Apple on Long Term Support for WO45? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106122306.QAA16634@smtpout.mac.com> On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 12:13 AM, Scott Anguish wrote: > I'm aware nobody gives a rat's ass about this within Apple. They > don't care about me, or my job. But I'm sick and tired of being > screwed over by this company. > You are not along Scott! > It was stated SPECIFICALLY, BY PRODUCT MARKETING, that EOF/Obj- > C/Cocoa would be supported on OS X, through WOF 4.5.1. We made plans > based on that. Well, in our case we made something more then planes - we produced 150k lines of source... Georg Tuparev Tuparev Technologies Klipper 13 1186 VR Amstelveen The Netherlands Mobile: +31-6-55798196 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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("ps auxwww" is good for this) "Dead" ports can be killed off (those not also showing in monitor). * The WOAdaptorInfo page (the page formerly known as "xyzzy") is also very helpful in tracking down instances/processes. * Look in the "webobjects.log" files for which ones are just waiting for the port to "become available" (i.e. doing nothing useful). * Start new instances, and set all old ones to "refuse new sessions". After a certain time, kill off all the old instances/processes. (just make sure that all the old users/sessions got out first) * Switch to new instances to another server, and set the old instances to die like above. Reboot the first server. (compare to above) * Add debugging DirectActions to your applications which respond with information about the running process (memory, process, sessions, users, etc). Protect them with passwords or something. Call these DAs directly (with instance #) to get more info. * This should all be scripted/automated, of course. Perl and shell scripts are your friends... > 2. Why is this happening, and how can I avoid it in the future? It is just how the adaptor/wotaskd/monitor works in WebObjects 4. Either upgrade to WO 4.5.1 (or WO 5.0?), or stop using Monitor. (It can still happen in WO 4.5.1, but it is much more unlikely.) BTW; There is no 451 with Java for OS X 10, just objective-C. Apps don't really flag as "dead" the same way in 451 (and 5?) - they just become "busy" and the adaptor routes new requests to another non-busy instance. (the sessions already on that instance will still have to wait for their turn, of course) And, as long as the instance is not "dead" it will not start another process on the same port - like it did in WO 4.5 The WO deployment environment might be improved in the future, but for now it's: "accept it for what it is, or roll your own". --anders From martin.lonnar at redmessage.com Wed Jun 13 02:30:26 2001 From: martin.lonnar at redmessage.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_L=F6nnar?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Log file location Message-ID: <200106130930.CAA02081@omnigroup.com> Hi, I have a MacOS X Server 1.2 system with WO 4.0.1 and I'm trying to find the log files for my application. Where do I usually find the log files? I have searched the OG archive but I can't find a post that actually mentions where to find them. 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First, if using the Apache web server before WO 4.5.1, set the WebObjectsConnectionPool to zero to avoid the Session Mixing bug (users get eachother's sessions) You might want to check your system (preferrably from the outside of your server's firewall) for the following things: $HOSTNAME = host.domain.tld (your web server) $APPNAME = WOApplication name (your application) # The CGI adaptor application listing http://$HOSTNAME/cgi-bin/WebObjects/ Set username and password for the application listing. # The wotaskd config page (WO >= 4.5) http://$HOSTNAME:1085/cgi-bin/WebObjects/wotaskd.woa/wa/woconfig The port 1085 should not be allowed through the firewall. # The Monitor http://$HOSTNAME/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Monitor Monitor should be unavailable, or at least password protected. # The xyzzy default page http://$HOSTNAME/cgi-bin/WebObjects/xyzzy The name/password for the xyzzy page should be changed. # The WOStatisticsStore default page http://$HOSTNAME/cgi-bin/WebObjects/$APPNAME.woa/wa/WOStats The statistics page should be protected by a password (or off). # The WOEventDisplay default page (WO >= 4.5) http://$HOSTNAME/cgi-bin/WebObjects/$APPNAME.woa/wa/WOEventDisplay The events page should be be protected by a password (or off). You probably also want to check that your application server(s) and your database server's service ports are not open to the public internet. Normally, you only need 80 and 443 to the web server as the only communication (there are exceptions: You might want to allow 22 as well, for SSH administration, and perhaps even 21 for FTP access to some of the pages, etc.) And all other normal server internet connection precautions... http://www.w3.org/Security/Faq/ --anders PS. No, I did not go to WWDC 2001. There was a session about this: "617 - WebObjects Security". Anyone that went and want to share? "This session discusses security within WebObjects applications. Topics include techniques for securing page generation and direct action invocation for anonymous users, gathering credentials for authentication, just-in-time login approaches, and using digital certificates. This session also covers automatic connection to pages over SSL to sites which require privacy, and access control." From areuter at monsterdaata.com Wed Jun 13 09:31:05 2001 From: areuter at monsterdaata.com (Alex Reuter) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Using DirectToWeb on a deployment only installation on Solaris In-Reply-To: <200106131536.RAA26923@dim.hcuge.ch> Message-ID: <002001c0f426$2f446540$d7a8a8c0@monsterdaata.com> There are two things I can think of that you might want to look at. Check your LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, on solaris i use: LD_LIBRARY_PATH $NEXT_ROOT/Local/Library/Frameworks:$NEXT_ROOT/Local/Developer/Libraries:$NE XT_ROOT/Developer/Libraries:$NEXT_ROOT/Local/Executables:$NEXT_ROOT/Library/ Executables:$NEXT_ROOT/Library/JDK/lib:/usr/java1.1/lib:/opt/home/oracle/Ora Home1/lib And look in $NEXT_ROOT/Library/Executables. I think libProjectBuilder.so.A is in there. good luck, Alex -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Lamb [mailto:alamb@dim.hcuge.ch] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:49 AM To: WebObjects-admin Subject: Using DirectToWeb on a deployment only installation on Solaris Hello, We have a strange problem related to an app we installed on Solaris by copying all ressources. The Solaris install is a deployment version of WO4.5 sp3. We copy because it is another machine doing the make install. When running the app on the machine where the build was done everything works fine. On the deployment machine, it tells us: libProjectBuilder.so.A open failed. Clearly, the deployment version of WebObjects is missing some files to run D2W apps. What are those files and can I simply copy them to alter the deployment version of WO 4.5 or should I install a full development version of WO 4.5 on that Solaris box? Thanks for any idea! Alex _____________________________________ Alexander Lamb Groupe Serveurs Applicatifs Division d'Informatique M?dicale H?pitaux Universitaires de Gen?ve 21 rue Micheli-du-Crest CH-1211 Gen?ve 4 / Switzerland Tel: +41-22 372.48.46 Fax: +41-22 372.61.98 alamb@dim.hcuge.ch / http://www.hcuge.ch From kieren_macmillan at mac.com Wed Jun 13 09:43:13 2001 From: kieren_macmillan at mac.com (Kieren Richard MacMillan) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WebObjects Security Tips In-Reply-To: <757441B0A1E0D3119611009027E02C9A2BF3BD@SRV01SBS> Message-ID: Anders -- Thanks for the great post! > First, if using the Apache web server before WO 4.5.1, > set the WebObjectsConnectionPool to zero to avoid > the Session Mixing bug (users get eachother's sessions) Is this fixed in WO5? BTW: this is the first I've heard of this "insect", but some unexplainable app behaviour in the past now makes much more sense... =\ Regards, Kieren. From anders.bjorklund at mindmill.se Wed Jun 13 10:27:37 2001 From: anders.bjorklund at mindmill.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Anders_Bj=F6rklund?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WebObjects Security Tips Message-ID: <757441B0A1E0D3119611009027E02C9A2BF3BE@SRV01SBS> >> First, if using the Apache web server before WO 4.5.1, >> set the WebObjectsConnectionPool to zero to avoid >> the Session Mixing bug (users get eachother's sessions) > >Is this fixed in WO5? Yes, now you can't set the connection pool size. :) (WebObjectsConnectionPool directive returns an error) But the bug should be fixed, so you don't need to. There was no real use to set it anyway, since apache child processes are not really reused in the first place. (Since it is a pre-forking web server, that would be hard) >BTW: this is the first I've heard of this "insect", >but some unexplainable >app behaviour in the past now makes much more sense... =\ It is a "known issue", among others like it. (unfortunately Apple does not have any public bug lists, so we are all left to duplicating our efforts to fix them) From trf at apple.com Wed Jun 13 11:52:02 2001 From: trf at apple.com (Todd Fernandez) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Deploy vs Dev: Missing library EOProjectJava? Message-ID: <200106131851.LAA08309@scv3.apple.com> Matt, > We have just deployed a new application for WO4.5.  Although apparently functioning, it reports the following when starting up: >   > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: EOProjectJava >     >   > Development and deployment are both Win2k.  The files present on the deployment box do not include the following, which _are_ on the development boxes: >   > C:\Apple\Developer\Libraries\EOProjectJava.lib > C:\Apple\Developer\Libraries\EOProjectJava_g.lib > C:\Apple\Library\Executables\EOProjectJava.dll > C:\Apple\Library\Executables\EOProjectJava_g.dll >   > What effect will this have on the running application?  Everything seems to be fine now, but as soon as we let users in, they're bound to find an Achilles Heel like this. >   > Has anyone experienced something similar?  (A search of webobjects-admin and webobjects-dev reveals nothing.) It looks like you have not installed WebObjects 4.5 Update 3, which resolves this issue. See http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n75091 for the update overview and links to download the update. The relevant release note is Apple reference #2478821. Todd From reportmill at yahoo.com Wed Jun 13 14:12:03 2001 From: reportmill at yahoo.com (Jeff Martin) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: Sun Netra T1 vs PowerMac G4 with ReportMill. G4 Smokes Netra! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010613211154.KWLN9669.femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com@mac> Brendan, the only data I can give you is that there is no platform-specific optimization in RM. At WWDC Apple saw a significant performance increase of the Solaris version of WO5 Java over WO45 Objc. They thought it had to do with the fact that the ObjC runtime was not near as optimized for Solaris as OSX. If you are using Java, you might try using the ReportMill.jar in RM5. There should be a performance gain over the bridged version. jeff On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, at 04:21 PM, Brendan Duddridge wrote: > Hi, > > We've been doing some performance comparisons between our development > machines (G4's) and our deployment machines (Netra T1s). To generate a > 118 > page ReportMill report takes 1 minute on the G4 and 3 minutes on the > Netra > T1. > > Development machine: > > PowerMac G4/400 Mhz, 192 MB of RAM > MacOS X Server 1.2 > WebObjects 4.5 Patch 3 > ReportMill 4.5 > Database connection to another Netra T1 (FrontBase) > > > Deployment Machine: > > Sun Netra T1/440 Mhz, 512 MB of RAM > Solaris 8 > WebObjects 4.5 Patch 3 > ReportMill 4.5 > Database connection to the same different Netra T1 (FrontBase) as the G4 > > > Is ReportMill slower on Solaris than on MacOS X Server 1.2? > > > Or do WebObjects apps execute faster on G4s in general than on Sun's > of a > roughly equivalent megahertz rating? > > We had no other WO apps or major processes running on the Netras. In > fact, > we ran one test that had about 10 WO apps running on the Netra and the > report took 5 minutes to generate. Once we shutdown those 10 apps, the > Netra > took only 3 minutes. Still, the G4 was 3 times faster than the Sun! > > Thanks, > > ___________________________ > > Brendan Duddridge > > ClickSpace Interactive Inc. > Calgary & Vancouver, Canada > (403) 277-5591 > http://www.clickspace.com > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin > From anders.bjorklund at mindmill.se Thu Jun 14 01:12:08 2001 From: anders.bjorklund at mindmill.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Anders_Bj=F6rklund?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WebObjects Security Tips In-Reply-To: <757441B0A1E0D3119611009027E02C9A35F8A7@SRV01SBS> Message-ID: <757441B0A1E0D3119611009027E02C9A2BF3C1@SRV01SBS> > I need some help to figure out how to set the password for > WOEventDisplay and WOEventSetup. See the beginning of this document for more info: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n75087 Short version: defaults write MyApplicationDomain WOStatisticsPassword password --anders From anders.bjorklund at mindmill.se Thu Jun 14 02:39:55 2001 From: anders.bjorklund at mindmill.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Anders_Bj=F6rklund?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style Message-ID: <757441B0A1E0D3119611009027E02C9A2BF3C5@SRV01SBS> (This assumes you already have WebObjects and CVS setup) WebObjects deployment, Apple-style: 1) Walk (or drive) over to the application server. 2) Use the "puck" to click on the login button. 3) Watch the beachball and wait while it logs in. 4) Start CVL (a CVS client). Wait while it boots. 5) Open the local work area. Wait for synchronizing. 6) Update the project folder. Wait some more. 7) Start ProjectBuilder. Wait while it boots. 8) Open your project. Wait while it indexes. 9) Click on the "broom". Wait while it cleans. 10) Click on the "hammer". Wait while it builds. 11) Close the applications and log out. Wait again. 12) Done. Sure hope there are no other deploys today! WebObjects deployment, hacker-style: From Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk Thu Jun 14 04:01:41 2001 From: Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style In-Reply-To: <757441B0A1E0D3119611009027E02C9A2BF3C5@SRV01SBS> Message-ID: <200106141101.f5EB1YJ63266@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 10:35 am, Anders Bj?rklund wrote: > WebObjects deployment, hacker-style: > > From the good ole Command Line: > telnet appserver # (and login) > cd SourceFolder # (modify to fit) > cvs update # (assuming no conflicts) > make clean # (if needed) > make install # (builds and installs) > exit # (logging off) > > * Of course, this entire process can be scripted > into a single "makeitso" shell command... Or, for the real hackers: cvs update && make clean && make install Paul -- http://www.plsys.co.uk From kristoffer-lists at codedivision.com Thu Jun 14 05:59:49 2001 From: kristoffer-lists at codedivision.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Kristoffer_Peterh=E4nsel?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style In-Reply-To: <200106141101.f5EB1YJ63266@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 01:01 PM, Paul Lynch wrote: > > On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 10:35 am, Anders Bj?rklund wrote: > >> WebObjects deployment, hacker-style: >> >> From the good ole Command Line: >> telnet appserver # (and login) >> cd SourceFolder # (modify to fit) >> cvs update # (assuming no conflicts) >> make clean # (if needed) >> make install # (builds and installs) >> exit # (logging off) >> > >> * Of course, this entire process can be scripted >> into a single "makeitso" shell command... > > Or, for the real hackers: > > cvs update && make clean && make install Hmmm.. Just mount the server via NFS and make the install location on the server. So running a make install in ProjectBuilderWO will install it at the correct place. Of course for WO 5 there IS no install in PB. So you will have to use the command line there. And for 4.5.(1) the machines needs to be binary compatible... But it saves some typing for me anyway ;) /Kristoffer Peterh?nsel From michaelmonner at home.com Thu Jun 14 07:04:51 2001 From: michaelmonner at home.com (MichaelMonner) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, well you smug UNIX hackers do it your way and leave the rest of us smug people who think the era of the command line should have ended shortly after 1984 to do it our way.. By the way, yes I used command lines in the '60s and '70s. I also drove cars that still had cranks and running boards in the '50s. Never could understand why they took the crank out: how do start your car when the batterys dead. And how can you carry 6 people without a running board. Mike At 2:56 PM +0200 14/6/01, Kristoffer Peterh?nsel wrote: >On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 01:01 PM, Paul Lynch wrote: > >> >>On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 10:35 am, Anders Bj?rklund wrote: >> >>>WebObjects deployment, hacker-style: >>> >>>From the good ole Command Line: >>>telnet appserver # (and login) >>>cd SourceFolder # (modify to fit) >>>cvs update # (assuming no conflicts) >>>make clean # (if needed) >>>make install # (builds and installs) >>>exit # (logging off) >>> >> >>>* Of course, this entire process can be scripted >>> into a single "makeitso" shell command... >> >>Or, for the real hackers: >> >>cvs update && make clean && make install > >Hmmm.. Just mount the server via NFS and make the install location >on the server. So running a make install in ProjectBuilderWO will >install it at the correct place. Of course for WO 5 there IS no >install in PB. So you will have to use the command line there. And >for 4.5.(1) the machines needs to be binary compatible... But it >saves some typing for me anyway ;) > >/Kristoffer Peterh?nsel >_______________________________________________ >WebObjects-admin mailing list >WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com >http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin From j-rochkind at nwu.edu Thu Jun 14 08:53:34 2001 From: j-rochkind at nwu.edu (Jonathan Rochkind) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WO 5 and 4.5: two monitors at once? Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010614105617.01f3eb60@hecky.acns.nwu.edu> I have a bunch of deployed WO 4.5 apps running on a Windows NT machine, call it a.nunet.net. Monitor is running on that same machine, as is the web server and adaptor (and wotaskd of course). Now I have WO5 sitting in my office. I also have a brand new Solaris machine at b.nunet.net. I would like to do an install from the WO5 machine onto b, and start playing around with WO5 deployment. Of course, once I have my app fully ported and tested and working, I'll bring down a.nunet.net, and everything will be on the brand new b.nunet.net. But I'm worried that in the interim period, is it going to cause a problem to have a WO5 Monitor on b.nunet.net and a WO 4.5 monitor on a.nunet.net? (And a 4.5 wotaskd on one and 5 wotaskd on the other too, of course). Is there any precautions or special configurations I can make to allow this to happen without a problem? If this is something I can _not_ do, then how have others handled this transition? --Jonathan From Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk Thu Jun 14 09:08:37 2001 From: Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106141608.f5EG8IJ67899@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 01:56 pm, Kristoffer Peterh?nsel wrote: > > On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 01:01 PM, Paul Lynch wrote: >> Or, for the real hackers: >> >> cvs update && make clean && make install > > Hmmm.. Just mount the server via NFS and make the install location on > the server. So running a make install in ProjectBuilderWO will install > it at the correct place. Of course for WO 5 there IS no install in PB. > So you will have to use the command line there. And for 4.5.(1) the > machines needs to be binary compatible... But it saves some typing for > me anyway ;) More seriously - that isn't likely to be feasible. Deployment servers are likely to be Solaris [1], and development machines NT. They really ought to be the far side of a firewall or several, with NFS definitely blocked. [1] Because nobody in their right mind runs an unproven release (Mac OS X 4.5.1 or 5.0), or an unsupported OS (Mac OS X Server 1.2) that doesn't support any current hardware models. Paul -- http://www.plsys.co.uk From Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk Thu Jun 14 09:12:32 2001 From: Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:33:59 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106141612.f5EGCEJ68006@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 03:03 pm, MichaelMonner wrote: > Yes, well you smug UNIX hackers do it your way and leave the rest of us > smug people who think the era of the command line should have ended > shortly after 1984 to do it our way.. As the rest of your deleted post proves, this is a flawed analogy. QED. This attitude will prevent you from doing any kind of cross platform deployment, and make secure deployment rather harder to configure that need be. Of course, if Apple hadn't removed the multi-platform support and remote compilation capabilities from Project Builder, this needn't have become the case. Paul -- http://www.plsys.co.uk From kieren_macmillan at mac.com Thu Jun 14 11:39:09 2001 From: kieren_macmillan at mac.com (Kieren Richard MacMillan) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: best option for multi-server setup Message-ID: Hello, all you WODeploymentGurus -- Currently, my client has the following situation: one G3, running WO, FrontBase, Apache, and CommuniGate Pro (it's a small site/app currently). The client has now purchased a G4 to add to the "mix". I'd like to hear what the best division of labour would be, in order to maximize effectiveness -- I'm thinking WO/FB on the G4, linked to the Internet via the G3 running Apache/CGP -- as well as optimization suggestions regarding scaling in the future, etc. Any thoughts, docs, or warnings? Thanks! Kieren. From Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk Thu Jun 14 11:52:44 2001 From: Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: best option for multi-server setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106141851.f5EIpxJ70049@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 07:39 pm, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: > Currently, my client has the following situation: one G3, running WO, > FrontBase, Apache, and CommuniGate Pro (it's a small site/app > currently). > The client has now purchased a G4 to add to the "mix". > > I'd like to hear what the best division of labour would be, in order to > maximize effectiveness -- I'm thinking WO/FB on the G4, linked to the > Internet via the G3 running Apache/CGP -- as well as optimization > suggestions regarding scaling in the future, etc. Depends. We'll skip lightly over the inadvisability of running a commercial service on an unsupported OS - I assume that you are running WO 4.5 on Mac OS X Server 1.2, and the difficulty of installing 1.2 on a G4 (can't be done one current systems). Perhaps you are running WO 5? You've got two serious choices when moving from 1 server to 2. 1) Apache + WO on one, DB on the other. Apache is low CPU impact, so this separates the two heavy CPU hitters; WO is usually heavier than DB, so the other way round might be an option, but the relative ease of deploying with WO in the web server might incline you this way. With a relatively poorly tuned app, there may be significant traffic between WO and the DB. This also is more exposed, as there is only going to be one firewall in front of the app. 2) Apache on one, WO/DB on the other. Low traffic between the servers, and the web server can give the impression of good response because it is lightly loaded. You can also insert a second firewall between the two servers, with only a couple of small holes to reach the app, and the DB not accessible from the outside. Disadvantage is that all the CPU load is on the one box. To scale, go to three boxes (one each for Apache, WO and DB), then add app servers. You'd have to go a long way before extra servers would be required for web or DB (for performance alone - resiliance is another matter). Paul -- http://www.plsys.co.uk From kieren_macmillan at mac.com Thu Jun 14 12:01:37 2001 From: kieren_macmillan at mac.com (Kieren Richard MacMillan) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: best option for multi-server setup In-Reply-To: <200106141851.f5EIpxJ70049@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello, Paul -- > Depends. We'll skip lightly over the inadvisability of running a > commercial service on an unsupported OS - I assume that you are running > WO 4.5 on Mac OS X Server 1.2, and the difficulty of installing 1.2 on a > G4 (can't be done one current systems). Perhaps you are running WO 5? Currently the client is, as you surmised, running WO4.5/MOSXS1.2. However, the combined weight of a bunch of "features"/"insects" -- not to mention a STRONG recommendation from a FrontBase support individual -- has "encouraged" us to move forward... Just for the record: would you consider MOSX10.0.3/MOSXS2/WO5 a "supported OS"? > 1) Apache + WO on one, DB on the other. Sounds like the best option for now. Many thanks! Kieren. From Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk Thu Jun 14 12:17:29 2001 From: Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: best option for multi-server setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106141917.f5EJHDJ70428@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 08:02 pm, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: > Just for the record: would you consider MOSX10.0.3/MOSXS2/WO5 a > "supported > OS"? Yes, but that falls under the old rule of not deploying a new release until you've had the first patch release. >> 1) Apache + WO on one, DB on the other. > > Sounds like the best option for now. I usually prefer the other, but YMMV. Paul -- http://www.plsys.co.uk From ruettimann at amazing-technologies.ch Thu Jun 14 22:52:43 2001 From: ruettimann at amazing-technologies.ch (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Cyrill_R=FCttimann?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: Using DirectToWeb on a deployment only installation on Solaris In-Reply-To: <200106131536.RAA26923@dim.hcuge.ch> Message-ID: <1219538185-56153105@netmen.ch> On Mittwoch, Juni 13, 2001, at 05:49 Uhr, Alexander Lamb wrote: > Hello, > > We have a strange problem related to an app we installed on Solaris by > copying all ressources. The Solaris install is a deployment version of > WO4.5 sp3. We copy because it is another machine doing the make install. > > When running the app on the machine where the build was done everything > works fine. > On the deployment machine, it tells us: > > libProjectBuilder.so.A open failed. > > Clearly, the deployment version of WebObjects is missing some files to > run D2W apps. > > What are those files and can I simply copy them to alter the deployment > version of WO 4.5 or should I install a full development version of WO > 4.5 on that Solaris box? > You have to install the developer option too! Otherwise, D2W apps are not able to run ... Regards, Cyrill ______________________________________________________________________ amazing technologies Cyrill R?ttimann phone: +41 41 7 123 941 Chamerstrasse 56 fax: +41 41 7 123 987 6300 Zug email: ruettimann@amazing-technologies.ch Switzerland internet: www.amazing-technologies.ch From anders.bjorklund at mindmill.se Thu Jun 14 23:37:03 2001 From: anders.bjorklund at mindmill.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Anders_Bj=F6rklund?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style Message-ID: <757441B0A1E0D3119611009027E02C9A2BF3D0@SRV01SBS> Mike wrote: >Yes, well you smug UNIX hackers do it your way and leave the rest of >us smug people who think the era of the command line should have >ended shortly after 1984 to do it our way.. You probably also think that object-oriented programming will end all other ways of designing programs (like procedural) ? Or that Java will eventually replace C or Perl altogether ? I use both Mac GUI and UNIX CLI. Or even Windows (most of the time). Different problems, different solutions... Recommended reading: "In the Beginning was the Command Line" by Neal Stephenson http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html --anders PS. Changing deployment style has saved me *hours* of time, that can be better spent on developing/testing. (or home) Don't knock it 'til you've tried it... (It was a mere suggestion / compliment to PB, nothing else.) From brian_cheetham at fanniemae.com Fri Jun 15 04:27:40 2001 From: brian_cheetham at fanniemae.com (Brian Cheetham) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: WebObjects on Windows ME? Message-ID: <3B29F121.BEAD255B@fanniemae.com> I have a PC at home with Windows ME installed. Has anyone been able to get WebObjects 4.5 to run under ME (I know it's not "supported")? When I launch any of the WO tools (EOModeler, etc.) it just hangs. Any ideas? Obviously I could installed NT instead... Thanks, --Brian From chad at objectwerks.com Fri Jun 15 05:42:03 2001 From: chad at objectwerks.com (Chad Leigh, ObjectWerks, Inc.) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: WebObjects on Windows ME? In-Reply-To: <3B29F121.BEAD255B@fanniemae.com> References: <3B29F121.BEAD255B@fanniemae.com> Message-ID: <190220000.992608882@kasumi.objectwerks.com> This reply is not that helpful, but I had 4.5 running just fine on 98 before I switched to 2000. So it probably ispossible since ME is supposedly 98 release N anyway. Chad --On Friday, June 15, 2001 07:27:29 AM -0400 Brian Cheetham wrote: > I have a PC at home with Windows ME installed. Has anyone been able to > get WebObjects 4.5 to run under ME (I know it's not "supported")? > > When I launch any of the WO tools (EOModeler, etc.) it just hangs. Any > ideas? Obviously I could installed NT instead... Thanks, > --Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin > From michaelmonner at home.com Fri Jun 15 08:27:23 2001 From: michaelmonner at home.com (MichaelMonner) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style In-Reply-To: <757441B0A1E0D3119611009027E02C9A2BF3D0@SRV01SBS> References: <757441B0A1E0D3119611009027E02C9A2BF3D0@SRV01SBS> Message-ID: At 8:33 AM +0200 15/6/01, Anders Bj?rklund wrote: >Mike wrote: >>Yes, well you smug UNIX hackers do it your way and leave the rest of >>us smug people who think the era of the command line should have >>ended shortly after 1984 to do it our way.. > >You probably also think that object-oriented programming will >end all other ways of designing programs (like procedural) ? >Or that Java will eventually replace C or Perl altogether ? > >I use both Mac GUI and UNIX CLI. Or even Windows (most of the time). >Different problems, different solutions... If I may clarify the reasons behind my intended-to-be-semi-serious outburst: I have full admiration for Apple in their attempts to put a friendly-gui face on UNIX so those of us (most current Mac users) who don't want to become UNIX gurus to use OSX don't have to. I'm sure the comments vis-a-vis the superiority of the command-line for specific purposes, that lead to my email are essentially true, if exaggerated, given the current state of things. However I saw it as a rather gratuitous slap at Apples efforts. What I was trying to do was provide an equally exaggerated counterpoint to the idea that the command-line is the b-all and end-all. Mike From smmccraw at cicada.com Fri Jun 15 08:50:07 2001 From: smmccraw at cicada.com (Steven Mark McCraw) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style Message-ID: <1219502312-7458227@cicada.com> Hi everyone, I hope this doesn't come across as untactful, but could we please not copy personal preference arguments like this one to the list? I try to monitor several of the lists, but it becomes very difficult to keep up with and sort through all of the relevant email if there's a lot of clutter. It's not that your discussion isn't important (between yourselves), it's just that I think the list was set up to help people solve problems with the OS, not argue which interface is superior, etc. Again, I hope this doesn't seem snippy, I just would like to see less opinion discussion, and I think most people probably feel the same way. Sincerely, Mark McCraw smmccraw@cicada.com > At 8:33 AM +0200 15/6/01, Anders Bj?rklund wrote: > Mike wrote: > Yes, well you smug UNIX hackers do it your way and leave the rest of > us smug people who think the era of the command line should have > ended shortly after 1984 to do it our way.. > > You probably also think that object-oriented programming will > end all other ways of designing programs (like procedural) ? > Or that Java will eventually replace C or Perl altogether ? > > I use both Mac GUI and UNIX CLI. Or even Windows (most of the time). > Different problems, different solutions... > > If I may clarify the reasons behind my intended-to-be-semi-serious > outburst: > > I have full admiration for Apple in their attempts to put a > friendly-gui face on UNIX so those of us (most current Mac users) who > don't want to become UNIX gurus to use OSX don't have to. I'm sure the > comments vis-a-vis the superiority of the command-line for specific > purposes, that lead to my email are essentially true, if exaggerated, > given the current state of things. However I saw it as a rather > gratuitous slap at Apples efforts. What I was trying to do was provide > an equally exaggerated counterpoint to the idea that the command-line > is the b-all and end-all. > > Mike -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2054 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/webobjects-admin/attachments/20010615/6be5c611/attachment.bin From lorenz.simon at t-online.de Fri Jun 15 10:34:51 2001 From: lorenz.simon at t-online.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Lorenz_Simon?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: WebObjects Deployment Style References: <1219502312-7458227@cicada.com> Message-ID: <005701c0f5c1$71e15560$0501000a@btx.dtag.detonline.de> >Hi everyone, >I hope this doesn't come across as untactful, but could we please not copy personal preference >arguments like this one to the list? I try to monitor several of the lists, but it becomes very difficult to >keep up with and sort through all of the relevant email if there's a lot of clutter. It's not that your >discussion isn't important (between yourselves), it's just that I think the list was set up to help people >solve problems with the OS, not argue which interface is superior, etc. Again, I hope this doesn't >seem snippy, I just would like to see less opinion discussion, and I think most people probably feel >the same way. There is a forum, where this might be a little more appropriate, its the webobjects-talk@omnigroup.com. Just my two pennys. From major at cybershaka.com Fri Jun 15 12:46:16 2001 From: major at cybershaka.com (Zoltan Major) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: jpg image from e-mail? References: <200106150120.SAA25115@lists.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <3B2A6742.C9F134D0@cybershaka.com> Hello, It is possible extract an attached jpg image sent by e-mail to the server with WebScript? Zoltan From trf at apple.com Fri Jun 15 18:43:20 2001 From: trf at apple.com (Todd Fernandez) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: Compiling 4.5.1 Apache Adaptor Message-ID: <200106160142.SAA24378@scv1.apple.com> Anders, et al, > As you may or may not know, the WO 4.5.1 Apache adaptor > does *not* compile out of the box. This is only true on Mac OS X Server 1.2. See TIL article 88144: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n88144 for the details and the solution. > But shouldn't differ much on for example Linux ? As several people have mentioned in other threads, the WebObjects 4.5.1 adaptor source does compile out of the box on Linux, as long as you copy the source from a platform other than Mac OS X Server 1.2 (or after correcting the MOSXS 1.2 source as described in TIL 88144). Todd From camille at odaiko.com Sun Jun 17 04:34:38 2001 From: camille at odaiko.com (Camille Troillard) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: WebObjects on Windows ME? In-Reply-To: <3B29F121.BEAD255B@fanniemae.com> Message-ID: <000001c0f723$184f7370$0a00000a@precision> If the application hangs that must be because services like pbs (pasteboard server), WindowsServer and machd (Mach Daemon) are not launched. Try to get them launch or see why they're not (probably because they were misinstalled). Camille > -----Message d'origine----- > De : webobjects-admin-admin@omnigroup.com > [mailto:webobjects-admin-admin@omnigroup.com] De la part de > Brian Cheetham > Envoy? : vendredi 15 juin 2001 13:27 > ? : webobjects-admin@omnigroup.com > Objet : WebObjects on Windows ME? > > > I have a PC at home with Windows ME installed. Has anyone > been able to get WebObjects 4.5 to run under ME (I know it's > not "supported")? > > When I launch any of the WO tools (EOModeler, etc.) it just > hangs. Any ideas? Obviously I could installed NT instead... > Thanks, --Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webo> bjects-admin > From gregory.bernard at groupemultimedia.com Mon Jun 18 02:52:11 2001 From: gregory.bernard at groupemultimedia.com (Gregory Bernard) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: Bad signal reveived from Wotaskd ... App stopped running ... Message-ID: We have a couple of apps hosted on three different servers (OSXs V1.2 - WO 4.5 patch 3); For safety reason we have configured the "e.mail notification" in Monitor. For some strange weired and uknown reasons we keep on receiving e.mail as if our apps were dying !!! Auto recover is activated and It does not seems that we have any dying apps (when we list them with a ps -aux they are all up and running ... ?). > The application EatinParis-8 listening on port 2004 on host wave stopped > running at 2001-06-18 11:13:45 +0200. This may be the result of a crash or > an intentional shutdown from outside of wotaskd ________________________________________________ ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? Gr?gory Bernard 14, rue Mandar Directeur 75002 Paris France Groupe Multim?dia tel : +(33) 1 40 26 79 85 ________________________________________________ ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????O?O?????????????????O?O???? PGP ID --> \ \ / / 0xD8FD2309 \ \ (__) / \ \ (xx)/ \ +--------+\// \| | / +--------+ From Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk Mon Jun 18 03:56:16 2001 From: Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: Bad signal reveived from Wotaskd ... App stopped running ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106181056.f5IAuBJ09870@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> On Monday, June 18, 2001, at 10:51 am, Gregory Bernard wrote: > We have a couple of apps hosted on three different servers (OSXs V1.2 - > WO > 4.5 patch 3); > > For some strange weired and uknown reasons we keep on receiving e.mail > as if > our apps were dying !!! > > Auto recover is activated and It does not seems that we have any dying > apps > (when we list them with a ps -aux they are all up and running ... ?). It does that. Sometimes, but it seems not always, wotaskd attempts to start a new copy of the app, which can't do anything as the woport is still occupied. One of the undocumented default values controls this - WOAppIsDeadInterval, IIRC, which operates alongside the various connection/send/receive timeouts in some way. Reading the woadaptor source helps. Paul -- http://www.plsys.co.uk From flowe at northwestern.edu Mon Jun 18 13:21:31 2001 From: flowe at northwestern.edu (Faarooq Lowe) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: Building WebObjects 5.0 on Solaris 8 Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to build a WebObjects 5.0 deployment server on sparc server runing Solaris 8 and Apache 1.3.9. I installed apache with module support sucessfully and the install of WebObjects5.0 went fine. Then, when I added the following line to the httpd.conf for the apache web server and attempted to start the web server I get the following error. # ./apachectl start Syntax error on line 4 of /opt/Apple/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache/apache.c onf: API module structure `WebObjects_module' in file /opt/Apple/Library/WebObjects/A daptors/Apache/mod_WebObjects.so is garbled - perhaps this is not an Apache modu le DSO? ./apachectl start: httpd could not be started Later I found additional instructions on building the module in question mod_WebObjects.so in /opt/Apple/Developer/Examples/WebObjects/Source/Adaptors When following the instructions for doing the build, I attempted to run a make and I ran into a series of errors on the make.config and Makefile. Apparently, the build did not like the if statements in these files so, after modifying the scripts I was able to get the following error: # make cd Apache ; make /usr/local/apache/bin/apxs -I../Adaptor -D SINGLE_THREADED_ADAPTOR -S CC=cc -c m od_WebObjects.c cc -DSOLARIS2=280 -DUSE_EXPAT -I../lib/expat-lite -I/usr/local/apache/inclu de - I../Adaptor -DSINGLE_THREADED_ADAPTOR -c mod_WebObjects.c "../Adaptor/appcfg.h", line 121: zero or negative subscript "../Adaptor/appcfg.h", line 172: zero or negative subscript "../Adaptor/listing.h", line 21: syntax error before or at: / "../Adaptor/listing.h", line 21: invalid source character: '#' "../Adaptor/listing.h", line 22: undefined or not a type: include "../Adaptor/listing.h", line 22: invalid source character: '#' "../Adaptor/listing.h", line 24: undefined or not a type: include "mod_WebObjects.c", line 134: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for mod_WebObjects.c apxs:Break: Command failed with rc=131072 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `mod_WebObjects.o' Current working directory /opt/Apple/Developer/Examples/WebObjects/Source/Adapto rs/Apache *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `Apache' Can someone please comment on this error and tell me if I should be using a particular shell, compiler or anything that I might be doing wrong. I am using the forte C/C++ compiler from sun and I have attempted makes with the standard make that comes with solaris and gnumake 2.7+. Also, I have run this command from ksh, csh, tcsh and bash. Thanks, Faarooq From dhrivnak at fintech.com Tue Jun 19 06:07:10 2001 From: dhrivnak at fintech.com (david hrivnak) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: deploying on multiple hosts - wotaskd dies / crashes ? (W2K) Message-ID: <00c801c0f8bf$b9e5c8e0$0c01a8c0@fintech.com> Hi - It should be a trivial matter to deploy multiple apps on more than one machine....but I started with just 2 applications (one on each machine, call them A and B), both machines are W2K boxes, WO4.5 update 3, IIS. As soon as you add B as a host on A and try to refresh the screen in monitor (by clicking "hosts" even) wotaskd on B dies immediately and comes back. I was able to get this working on A and C with an identical setup (as far as I could tell). I tried 3 others as candidates for B with no success. All are W2K, IIS, WO45. I tried the following ideas: - installed the WO update 3 patch - installed W2K service pack 2 (latest) - rebooted - examined event logs and webobjects logs and there are no hints - I've examined the machine that works and couldn't find any differences... Any ideas?? David Hrivnak Fintech dhrivnak@fintech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /mailman/archive/webobjects-admin/attachments/20010619/a4e93383/attachment.html From dhrivnak at fintech.com Tue Jun 19 06:28:01 2001 From: dhrivnak at fintech.com (david hrivnak) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: deploying on multiple hosts - wotaskd dies / crashes ? (W2K) References: Message-ID: <00d301c0f8c2$a59c4640$0c01a8c0@fintech.com> Monitor is not running on both machines - I stopped the monitor service on machine B. I looked at the Event viewer again and there is a log entry that says.. "wotaskd.exe... instruction [hex digits] referenced memory at 0x00000" I guess it's a kind of null pointer exception.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony O. Brinson" To: "'david hrivnak'" Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:17 AM Subject: RE: deploying on multiple hosts - wotaskd dies / crashes ? (W2K) > Is Monitor running on both machines? > > If it is, that could easily be your problem. > > You should only have one Monitor for a machine (so, if you add machine B to > Monitor on machine A, you must disable Monitor on machine B). > > Good luck! > > -Tony > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: david hrivnak [SMTP:dhrivnak@fintech.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:00 AM > > To: webobjects-admin@omnigroup.com > > Subject: deploying on multiple hosts - wotaskd dies / crashes ? (W2K) > > > > Hi - It should be a trivial matter to deploy multiple apps on more than > > one machine....but > > > > I started with just 2 applications (one on each machine, call them A and > > B), both machines are W2K boxes, WO4.5 update 3, IIS. As soon as you add > > B as a host on A and try to refresh the screen in monitor (by clicking > > "hosts" even) wotaskd on B dies immediately and comes back. > > > > I was able to get this working on A and C with an identical setup (as far > > as I could tell). I tried 3 others as candidates for B with no success. > > All are W2K, IIS, WO45. I tried the following ideas: > > > > - installed the WO update 3 patch > > - installed W2K service pack 2 (latest) > > - rebooted > > - examined event logs and webobjects logs and there are no hints > > - I've examined the machine that works and couldn't find any > > differences... > > > > Any ideas?? > > > > David Hrivnak > > Fintech > > dhrivnak@fintech.com From kym at recalldesign.com Tue Jun 19 22:59:24 2001 From: kym at recalldesign.com (Kym Farnik) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: WO 4.5.1 - Configuration, transport, scheduler and timeout Message-ID: Hi WO 451 on Win2K I have noticed that we cannot set the same configuration options as V45. transport=winsock etc. Is this required in 451? Any recomendations on transport and scheduler (random v roundrobin v loadaverage)? Also: How do we set a session timeout of 30 minutes? Is the value in seconds? ie: timeout=1800 Should we be setting any other timeouts? Thanks, Kym Farnik ------------------- | kym@recalldesign.com | direct: +61 8 8217 0556 Recall Design Pty Ltd | www.recalldesign.com | telephone: +61 8 8217 0500 53 Gilbert Street | | fax: +61 8 8217 0555 Adelaide SA 5000 | | mobile: 0438 014 007 All the world's an analog stage, and digital circuits play only bit parts -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 2203 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/webobjects-admin/attachments/20010619/d679f854/smime.bin From Todd at Uniteller.com Wed Jun 20 07:11:25 2001 From: Todd at Uniteller.com (Todd DeYoung) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:00 2005 Subject: Monitor Signaling Death Message-ID: <21A2F9C1DDB0D3118541009027DE3AEE3722AC@njrocapp02.uniteller.com> I have Monitor setup to send me an e-mail when one of my applications dies. The same application prints the contents of the request as soon as it's called (through a DirectAction method). I'm seeing deaths when the instances are not dead and I'm not seeing transactions. I understand the timeout settings of the Monitor, but don't understand why I'd be getting these notices when there is no corresponding transaction. Anyone have any ideas? I appreciate any information you can provide. Todd Todd A. DeYoung VP Research & Development UniTeller, Inc. 201.345.2070 From j-rochkind at nwu.edu Wed Jun 20 10:57:21 2001 From: j-rochkind at nwu.edu (Jonathan Rochkind) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: WO5 on Solaris: getting started Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010620125516.020c7a30@hecky.acns.nwu.edu> I'm having trouble getting WO5 started on Solaris. I feel kind of lost, as I'm not sure what has changed in WO5 from 4.5 I'm more familiar with, at the same time I have never deployed WO on Solaris before, and know little about Solaris. I do have a sysadmin working with me who knows much more about Solaris, but little about WO. At this point, after much struggles undertaken by the sysadmin, the apache adaptor seems to be compiled correctly, and up (as evidenced by the 'application with that name can not be found' message it gives me). wotaskd seems to be compiled and up and working; I will append the response from port 1085 below. The next step would seem to be getting Monitor up. I am supposed to be able to run Monitor on my WO5 Solaris deploy box, aren't I? I can't find Monitor anywhere in the installed product. If anyone has any hints or help at this point, it would be greatly appreciated. The port 1085 wotaskd output below seems slightly suspicious on several fronts: * It says "Wotaskd is NOT writing WOConfig.xml to disk" --- is this bad? * It says "Wotaskd is NOT responding to Multicast", which actually seems _good_, if this means what I think it means, but I'm not sure. * The "Site Config As Written To Disk" in 1085 output (despite the fact that 1085 output also says wotaskd is not writing WOConfig.xml to disk---is the "site config" a differnet file?) contains an empty list of hosts. I'm not sure if this is bad, or just indicates that I haven't set up any hosts with Monitor yet, which is true. * The "Adaptor Config" output by wotaskd contains an empty list too; should it contain an entry for my apache adaptor which does seem to be running on that same machine? But even if wotaskd is running properly, the real problem seems to be: what do I have to do to get Monitor up and running? I can't even find Monitor. Here is the complete 1085 output: ============ Wotaskd for WebObjects 5: mr-rogers Site Config as written to disk YES 60 Adaptor Config as sent to Local WOAdaptors - All Running Applications and Instances Adaptor Config as sent to remote WOAdaptors - All Registered and Running Applications and Instances Adaptor Config as written to disk - All Registered Applications and Instances Properties of this wotaskd The Configuration Directory is: /opt/Apple/Local/Library/WebObjects/Configuration/ Wotaskd is NOT writing WOConfig.xml to disk The multicast address is: 239.128.14.2 This wotaskd is running on Port: 1085 Wotaskd is NOT responding to Multicast WOAssumeApplicationIsDeadMultiplier is 4 The System Properties are: {user.language=en, _WOSessionReclaimingInterval=60, java.vm.info=build Solaris_JDK_1.2.2_05a, native threads, sunwjit, sun.boot.library.path=/usr/java1.2/jre/lib/sparc, java.specification.name=Java Platform API Specification, WOMulticastAddress=239.128.14.2, WOSocketMonitorSleepTime=50, java.specification.version=1.2, java.compiler=sunwjit, java.vm.specification.version=1.0, _ComponentRequestHandlerKey=wo, java.ext.dirs=/usr/java1.2/jre/lib/ext, java.home=/usr/java1.2/jre, WOSocketCacheSize=100, NSProjectSearchPath=(), java.vendor.url.bug=http://www.sun.com/solaris/java/1.2support, java.awt.printerjob=sun.awt.motif.PSPrinterJob, java.sys.class.path=/usr/java1.2/jre/lib/rt.jar:/usr/java1.2/jre/lib/i18n.ja r:/usr/java1.2/jre/classes, WODirectConnectEnabled=true, java.io.tmpdir=/var/tmp/, WOLocalRootDirectory=/opt/Apple/Local, file.encoding=646, WOIncludeCommentsInResponse=false, java.library.path=/usr/bin/../java/bin/../jre/bin/../lib/sparc:/usr/lib:/usr /lib, path.separator=:, WOCachingEnabled=true, WOMaxIOBufferSize=8196, java.version=1.2.2, java.vm.specification.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc., WOWorkerThreadCount=8, WOAdaptor=WODefaultAdaptor, java.specification.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc., WOAdaptorURL=http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects, java.vm.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc., WOPort=1085, os.version=5.8, sun.io.unicode.encoding=UnicodeBig, WODebuggingEnabled=false, sun.boot.class.path=/usr/java1.2/jre/lib/rt.jar:/usr/java1.2/jre/lib/i18n.ja r:/usr/java1.2/jre/classes, WOWorkerThreadCountMin=16, WOAssumeApplicationIsDeadMultiplier=4, _WOHTMLParserClassName=WOHTMLTemplateParser, user.timezone=America/Chicago, WOUserDirectory=/opt/Apple/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa/C ontents/Resources, WOLifebeatEnabled=false, java.vm.specification.name=Java Virtual Machine Specification, _DirectActionRequestHandlerKey=wa, user.dir=/opt/Apple/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa, java.class.path=/opt/Apple/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa/C ontents/Resources/Java/wotaskd.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaEOContr ol.framework/Resources/Java/javaeocontrol.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/ JavaXML.framework/Resources/Java/javaxml.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/PrivateFrame works/JavaMonitor.framework/Resources/Java/javamonitor.jar:/opt/Apple/Librar y/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/Resources/Java/javafoundation.jar:/opt /Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaWOExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/javawoex tensions.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/Resource s/Java/javawebobjects.jar://Library/Java:/opt/Apple/Local/Library/Java:/opt/ Apple/Library/Java:/Network/Library/Java:/opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaV M.framework/Classes/classes.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framewo rk/Classes/ui.jar:/usr/j2sdkee1.3/lib, WOMaxHeaders=100, WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling=false, WOSMTPHost=smtp, user.name=root, WOWorkerThreadCountMax=256, java.class.version=46.0, WOLifebeatDestinationPort=1085, file.separator=/, WOLifebeatInterval=30, WOApplicationBaseURL=/WebObjects, WOShouldUseSpawn=true, WOSessionTimeOut=3600, WORootDirectory=/opt/Apple, WOSavesAdaptorConfiguration=false, WOListenQueueSize=128, WOAdditionalAdaptors=(), file.encoding.pkg=sun.io, java.awt.graphicsenv=sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment, java.vm.name=Solaris VM, WOSessionStoreClassName=WOServerSessionStore, WOMaxSocketIdleTime=180000, _ResourceRequestHandlerKey=wr, java.vendor.url=http://www.sun.com/, os.arch=sparc, WOMonitorEnabled=false, line.separator= , WOAllowsCacheControlHeader=true, java.awt.fonts=, user.home=/, java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc., WOFrameworksBaseURL=/WebObjects/Frameworks, java.vm.version=1.2.2, WOAutoOpenInBrowser=false, WORespondsToMulticastQuery=false , os.name=SunOS} From dluke at geeklair.net Wed Jun 20 11:11:18 2001 From: dluke at geeklair.net (Daniel J. Luke) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: WO5 on Solaris: getting started In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010620125516.020c7a30@hecky.acns.nwu.edu>; from j-rochkind@nwu.edu on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 01:03:01PM -0500 References: <4.2.2.20010620125516.020c7a30@hecky.acns.nwu.edu> Message-ID: <20010620141109.S18360@geeklair.net> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 01:03:01PM -0500, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > At this point, after much struggles undertaken by the sysadmin, the apache > adaptor seems to be compiled correctly, and up (as evidenced by the > 'application with that name can not be found' message it gives > me). wotaskd seems to be compiled and up and working; I will append the > response from port 1085 below. The next step would seem to be getting > Monitor up. I am supposed to be able to run Monitor on my WO5 Solaris > deploy box, aren't I? I can't find Monitor anywhere in the installed product. Yep, it sounds like that's all you need to do yet. `$NEXT_HOME/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor` -- Daniel J. Luke +========================================================+ | *---------------- dluke@geeklair.net ----------------* | | *-------------- http://www.geeklair.net -------------* | +========================================================+ | Opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily | | reflect the opinions of my employer. | +========================================================+ From chack at pobox.com Wed Jun 20 11:42:10 2001 From: chack at pobox.com (chack) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: building wo5 Adaptor problem Message-ID: Hi... I'm trying to build the new adaptor on solaris 8 and I'm getting a strange error message: make: Fatal error in reader: make.config, line 8: Unexpected end of line seen Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance, Carlos. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gatto) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: [SOLVED] Re: building wo5 Adaptor problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 2:05 PM +0200 6/21/01, Stefan Berreth wrote: >Wild guess, but might it be that the sources you are trying to >compile have gotten there via a path that crossed a windows machine >so that linenedings have not been propperly converted? no.. it was the version of make... Mac OS X uses GNU Make version 3.79, by Richard Stallman and Roland McGrath. the strange thing is that solaris packages was identifying the same version... we downloaded that version and the problem was solved ! thanks for all help ! Carlos -- -------------------------------------------------------- Carlos H. Gatto - chack@americanas.com.br Americanas.com - Technology 55-11-33653328 http://www.americanas.com.br From tbarker at landendigital.com Thu Jun 21 09:35:48 2001 From: tbarker at landendigital.com (Tom Barker) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: CVS info Message-ID: <200106211642.f5LGgPZ10016@mail.landendigital.com> Can someone point me to tutrials/information on the CVS product. We are getting ready to expand and we will need the ability for multiple prgrammer support. If I understand it CVS is what we need to manage changes correct? Or if there is another product for this purpose please let me know. Thanks Tom From areuter at monsterdaata.com Thu Jun 21 09:43:23 2001 From: areuter at monsterdaata.com (Alex Reuter) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: CVS info In-Reply-To: <200106211642.f5LGgPZ10016@mail.landendigital.com> Message-ID: <005c01c0fa71$431e1fb0$d7a8a8c0@monsterdaata.com> http://cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs.html is a nice page for reference of CVS commands and stuff. -----Original Message----- From: webobjects-admin-admin@omnigroup.com [mailto:webobjects-admin-admin@omnigroup.com]On Behalf Of Tom Barker Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:34 PM To: webobjects-admin@omnigroup.com Subject: CVS info Can someone point me to tutrials/information on the CVS product. We are getting ready to expand and we will need the ability for multiple prgrammer support. If I understand it CVS is what we need to manage changes correct? Or if there is another product for this purpose please let me know. Thanks Tom _______________________________________________ WebObjects-admin mailing list WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin From j-rochkind at nwu.edu Thu Jun 21 09:45:26 2001 From: j-rochkind at nwu.edu (Jonathan Rochkind) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: CVS info In-Reply-To: <200106211642.f5LGgPZ10016@mail.landendigital.com> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010621114837.01fbaff0@hecky.acns.nwu.edu> A really good book on CVS: http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html The official documentation for CVS: http://www.wincvs.org/howto/cvsdoc/index.html A couple of CVS FAQs: http://www.loria.fr/~molli/cvs/cvs-FAQ/cvsfaq0.html http://www.loria.fr/~molli/fom-serve/cache/1.html The page for WinCVS, a pretty good graphical front-end for CVS. There is also a MacCVS which is the same app for Mac: http://www.wincvs.org/download.html Hope this helps. At 12:34 PM 6/21/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Can someone point me to tutrials/information on the CVS product. >We are getting ready to expand and we will need the ability for >multiple prgrammer support. >If I understand it CVS is what we need to manage changes correct? > >Or if there is another product for this purpose please let me know. > >Thanks Tom >_______________________________________________ >WebObjects-admin mailing list >WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com >http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin From tbarker at landendigital.com Thu Jun 21 10:38:04 2001 From: tbarker at landendigital.com (Tom Barker) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: CVS info (Thanks) Message-ID: <200106211744.f5LHikb10513@mail.landendigital.com> Thanks peoples, I'm off and crawling in the CVS world! Probably have some Q's once I try to get it going. Again Thanks Tom From dbayless at signaturesnet.com Thu Jun 21 15:11:59 2001 From: dbayless at signaturesnet.com (Django Bayless) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: DOC: WebObjects Documentation Feedback Message-ID: Have at it.... ----- Forwarded by Django Bayless/SF/SSI on 06/21/01 03:10 PM ----- WebObjects Sent by: webobjects-announce-admin@lists.apple.com 06/21/01 11:32 AM To: webobjects-announce@lists.apple.com cc: Subject: DOC: WebObjects Documentation Feedback Hello everyone, I am pleased to announce that we have hired Katherine Wenc as our new Documentation Manager focused exclusively on WebObjects and Java technologies. She comes to us from ViewStar, Lucent, and Avaya, where she was responsible for managing the documentation for numerous developer products. We realize that documentation is a critical aspect of WebObjects, and are working hard to expand and improve the WebObjects documentation, both in the product and delivered incrementally via the web and Fatbrain. We received a lot of valuable feedback at Apple's WorldWide Developer Conference, which is helping us prioritize where to focus first. If you have additional feedback, please send it to us at "webobjects@apple.com" with "DOC:" in the subject line. Sincerely, Ernie Prabhakar ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Ernest N. Prabhakar Product Line Manager, Development Platforms, System Software Product Marketing Apple Computer, Inc. M/S 303-3SW, 3 Infinite Loop Cupertino CA 95014 _______________________________________________ webobjects-announce mailing list webobjects-announce@lists.apple.com http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-announce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /mailman/archive/webobjects-admin/attachments/20010621/6813d8bd/attachment.html From stephen at pyrusmalus.com Fri Jun 22 15:08:32 2001 From: stephen at pyrusmalus.com (Stephen Brandon) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: License key file for WO5? Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying out my demo copy of WO5 on linux. So far, the adaptor install was an absolute joy (the 4.5 one was a lot more complicated), and the CLASSPATH seems to have got messed up (easy to fix), but I can't get the license to work. Of course I can't run the License application to install the license, so I am trying to put it in manually. I've got the right path: /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/Resources/License.key But taking the demo key from the pdf file, it won't go in there as a text string, with or without line feed character. (In 4.5, the license just went into that same file as a text string) So I figure something has changed... Could some kind soul who has this installed on MacOSX take a look at the file mentioned above, and let me know if it IS just supposed to be the text string, or not? If it's not, could someone please e-mail me the file? (I assume this is legal, since you have it, I have it, it's in the public domain? , the key is published) I'll let people know how I get on. It's certainly amazing and wonderful to see wotaskd trying to spring to life on linux!!! (nearly there...) Cheers, Stephen Brandon From webmaster at midnet.co.uk Mon Jun 25 01:36:47 2001 From: webmaster at midnet.co.uk (Midland Internet) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: No Monitor??? Message-ID: Dear Listeners, I have installed WebObjects 5 deployment on my G4 running OSX Server (10.0.0.3), and I am having problems finding a monitor to run my applications in standalone mode. I have found an applications called JavaMonitor.woa which installed with as part of the package but there is no documentation on how to use it. Can anybody help? or provide me with any info? Thanks, James Johnson Webmaster Midland Internet Ltd -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Midland Internet Ltd. Spring Grove House, Bewdley, Worcestershire, DY12 1LF, England, UK. All the news you want, when you want it. Tel: +44 (0) 1299 403634 Fax: +44 (0) 1299 402208 Cell: +44 (0) 7720 233273 http://www.midnet.co.uk/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From daniel.bleisteiner at metaobject.de Mon Jun 25 07:51:47 2001 From: daniel.bleisteiner at metaobject.de (Daniel Bleisteiner) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: Monitor v4.5 Patch 3 Problems... Message-ID: Hi there, i just installed WebObjects 4.5 with patch 3 on a machine (MacOS X Server 1.2) running 4.0.1 before and got problems with the collapsible list in monitor: Application: Monitor Error: NSInvalidArgumentException exception Reason: : Cannot initialize because: *** -[WOCollapsibleComponentContent _scope]: selector not recognized Did anyone came over this before? Daniel Bleisteiner, MetaObject GmbH PS: I couldn't find a description on uninstalling 4.0.1 either on Apples website or in this list... - Oranienburger Strasse 69, 10117 Berlin Tel: +49-30-285381-10, Fax: +49-30-285381-99 From Todd at Uniteller.com Mon Jun 25 11:49:23 2001 From: Todd at Uniteller.com (Todd DeYoung) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: Multiple Environments Message-ID: <21A2F9C1DDB0D3118541009027DE3AEE372306@njrocapp02.uniteller.com> I am running WO4.5 Patch 3 on Solaris 5.8 and using iPlanet 4.5 with the NSAPI adaptor as the Web Server running on a different physical server also running Solaris 5.8. I'd like to setup a development environment to complement my deployment environment but I'm worried about screwing things up. The development environment will be on separate physical servers. I have turned off the Multicast feature on the Web Servers. I figure I can do the same on the development environment, but have a couple of questions. 1) Would there be any reason to run wotaskd on a port other than 1085? If so, how do I get the Monitor to work with a wotaskd which has a port other than 1085? 2) I'll want to run separate Monitors for each environment. If Multicasting is off, will the Monitor only see (and therefore modify) the hosts defined? (I've had a run in with multiple Monitors in the past before turning off Multicasting and don't want to repeat that if possible). Any information is appreciated. Thanks, Todd Todd A. DeYoung VP Research & Development UniTeller, Inc. 201.345.2070 From michael at recalldesign.com Mon Jun 25 17:04:36 2001 From: michael at recalldesign.com (Michael Jenkins) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: Monitor v4.5 Patch 3 Problems... References: Message-ID: <3B37D182.A9C402F8@recalldesign.com> > i just installed WebObjects 4.5 with patch 3 on a machine (MacOS X Server > 1.2) running 4.0.1 before and got problems with the collapsible list in > monitor: You have to completely remove the previous install of WebObjects 4.0x before installing 4.5. This bit me pretty hard when 4.5 was first released. You can do this from the package manager, I think, but there is some room for error - all I can tell you is that you need to uninstall the all the packages starting with "WO" and "EOF", I think. I believe there is a TIL article on this matter: http://til.info.apple.com -- Michael Jenkins | michael@recalldesign.com | www.recalldesign.com Application Architect | Direct: +61 8 8217 0560 | Mobile: 0416 168 924 Recall Design Pty Ltd | Tel: +61 8 8217 0500 | Fax: +61 8 8217 0555 | 53 Gilbert Street, Adelaide SA 5000, AUSTRALIA From Markus.Meisterernst at gmx.de Mon Jun 25 23:45:12 2001 From: Markus.Meisterernst at gmx.de (Markus Meisterernst) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: Multiple Environments Message-ID: <12187.993537868@www37.gmx.net> Hi, we're using 3 different environments: development, integration and production. Each of these environments uses it's on WebServer Instances on dedecated hosts which are not configured to use multicast - you have to name the application server hosts explicitly in the obj.conf of your WebServer instances. The hosts you list in here don't have anything in common with the Monitor in first place. It only tells the WebObjects Plugin where to find configuration Information about running instances which can hence be accessed by this WebServer. Usually the configuration information ?s accessed through one or more HTTP Request to Port 1085 on the Application Server Host(s). You can get the produced xml config file by hand by using telnet: $1> telnet 1085 $1> GET /cgi-bin/WebObjects/wotaskd.woa/wa/woconfig (two times ) There is no reason before WebObjects 4.5.1 (latest maintainance release of 4.5) or WebObjects 5 (which is said to be deployment compatible) to use another Port than 1085, since the Apps you start in Monitor are only permitted to register on Port 1085 as far as I know. However, if you use 4.5.1 or 5.0 you could set up Multiple wotaskd Daemons and configure your WebServers accordingly, so they would be able to only see the applications that are offered by means of a certain wotaskd Daemon -> this clearly is a security issue and eases administration (in some dedecated cases). Hope that clarified your questions. Cheers, Markus -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a From daniel.bleisteiner at metaobject.de Tue Jun 26 04:22:44 2001 From: daniel.bleisteiner at metaobject.de (Daniel Bleisteiner) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: WebObjects 4.5.1 experiences... Message-ID: Hi everybody... first off all thanks for the last help with my first 4.5 installation. Now all works as expected. But now to another question: What are your experiences with 4.5.1 on MacOS X (client) and MacOS X Server 1.2? Are there any known troubles with these combinations or can i safely switch to that latest build of the pre-javaOnly era? Daniel Bleisteiner, MetaObject GmbH - Oranienburger Strasse 69, 10117 Berlin Tel: +49-30-285381-10, Fax: +49-30-285381-99 From l.p.arnesen at usit.uio.no Tue Jun 26 04:23:29 2001 From: l.p.arnesen at usit.uio.no (Lars Preben S. Arnesen) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: woconfig.dtd for WO 4.5 4.51 and 5.0 Message-ID: Is the dtd for WOConfig.xml (woconfig.dtd) the same for 4.5x and 5? I'm writing an administration tool for our deployment server, but I only have the dtd for WO 4.5. -- Lars Preben S. Arnesen USIT, University of Oslo From tbarker at landendigital.com Tue Jun 26 07:39:48 2001 From: tbarker at landendigital.com (Tom Barker) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: upgrade issues Message-ID: <200106261447.f5QEl5H10515@mail.landendigital.com> We are currently working with OSXS1.2v3 WO4.5p3 on a single processor G4. We are planning to upgrade to a dual processor G4. I am getting "rumors" that OSXS1.2 won't load on a dually. Is this true Whats my options here? Will OSXS 10.?? run WO4.5? (I know you have to have 5.0 for OSX but this regards OSXS). Tom From henrys at apple.com Tue Jun 26 10:32:19 2001 From: henrys at apple.com (Henry Stukenborg) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: upgrade issues In-Reply-To: <200106261447.f5QEl5H10515@mail.landendigital.com> Message-ID: <200106261732.KAA07548@scv1.apple.com> Tom: X Server 1.2 won't recognize the 2nd processor, but it will install (small comfort, there). X Server 10.0 will use the 2nd processor quite nicely, so don't worry about that. As far as WebObjects goes, here is a brief summary of compatibility: Language X Server WO Version ------------- ------------ ------------------ ObjC 1.2 & 10.0 4.5.1 Java (1.1.8) 1.2 4.5.1 Java (1.2) 10.0 5.0 Basically your current apps will run unchanged under 4.5.1 (all platforms). The only qualifier is that Java-based apps won't run under 4.5.1 on X Server 10.0. You'd have to port and move to WO 5 (which ships with a tool to help with the conversion). I hope that helps. -Henry On Tuesday, June 26, 2001, at 07:38 AM, Tom Barker wrote: > We are currently working with OSXS1.2v3 WO4.5p3 on a single > processor G4. We are planning to upgrade to a dual processor G4. > I am getting "rumors" that OSXS1.2 won't load on a dually. Is this > true Whats my options here? Will OSXS 10.?? run WO4.5? > (I know you have to have 5.0 for OSX but this regards OSXS). > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin From sanguish at digifix.com Tue Jun 26 11:37:51 2001 From: sanguish at digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: upgrade issues In-Reply-To: <200106261732.KAA07548@scv1.apple.com> Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 26, 2001, at 01:32 PM, Henry Stukenborg wrote: > Tom: > > X Server 1.2 won't recognize the 2nd processor, but it will install one additional caveat.. it won't work at all on the 'digital audio' dual processor boxes. > Basically your current apps will run unchanged under 4.5.1 (all > platforms). If only this were true. On Mac OS X 4.5.1 links with all of Carbon. Carbon has hundreds (thousands) of functions defined that do not use any sort of prefix. If you link with any code that collides with any of the carbon function names (oh.. like say ImageMagick) you're stuck. From abrinson at ogse.com Tue Jun 26 11:53:53 2001 From: abrinson at ogse.com (Anthony O. Brinson) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: Search Engines Message-ID: I have a question for the masses: For those of you who have consumer sites, how do you setup your apps for listing with search engines? It's my understanding that tags will not work because of the necessity of tracking sessions, and the URLs that are generated be WebObjects. We have considered doorway pages, but my current client is adamantly opposed to the idea. Any suggestions? Thanks! -Tony Anthony Brinson Internet Programmer - Microsoft Certified Professional Orion Group Software Engineers abrinson@ogse.com (219) 233-3401 ext. 257 http://www.ogse.com From camille at odaiko.com Tue Jun 26 18:32:29 2001 From: camille at odaiko.com (Camille Troillard) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: WO4.5: More than one instance on a single machine Message-ID: <000001c0feaa$af944880$0a00000a@precision> Hello Dear List, I was deploying a WO 4.5 app on a Windows NT4 SP6a machine (biprocessor, 3x256 Mo RAM) and I found that adding more than one application instance on this machine leaded to a lack of performances. Moreover, with IIS the adaptor load-balancing does not work very well (but that's a known issue, isn't it?). I understand that having multiple applications running is essential for fail-over, scheduling and crash situations, but considering that the application boots quite quickly if it crashes, I find it more efficient and simple to deploy a single application instance on a single machine at a time. One is free to add more machine when more power is needed. Am I saying oddities, or this makes sense? Every comments are welcome ! Cheer, Camille From webmaster at midnet.co.uk Wed Jun 27 04:17:58 2001 From: webmaster at midnet.co.uk (Midland Internet) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:01 2005 Subject: Java Monitor with OSX 10.0.0.4 Message-ID: When I try to launch JavaMonitor.woa it starts to load, bounces within the dock a couple of times and then quits. I have looked at the systems console, and I seem to be getting error 'unable to load error -2857'. Does anybody know what is going on with my monitor? Thanks, James Johnson Webmaster -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Midland Internet Ltd. Spring Grove House, Bewdley, Worcestershire, DY12 1LF, England, UK. All the news you want, when you want it. Tel: +44 (0) 1299 403634 Fax: +44 (0) 1299 402208 Cell: +44 (0) 7720 233273 http://www.midnet.co.uk/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Fritz.Wittwer at ascom.com Wed Jun 27 04:55:19 2001 From: Fritz.Wittwer at ascom.com (Fritz Wittwer) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: WebObjects 4.0.1 on Solaris 8 Message-ID: <4.3.2.20010627135540.01a14880@pop3.ascom.ch> Hi all, has anyone installed WebObjects 4.0.1 on Solaris 8. We are running it on several machines with Solaris 7 now, but I have to install 3 new machines, and I would like to install them with a current Version of Solaris.. Thanks in advance Fritz From michele.rossi at bbc.co.uk Wed Jun 27 07:05:14 2001 From: michele.rossi at bbc.co.uk (Michele Rossi) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: problems with Apache adaptor Message-ID: Hi, I'm running the Apache 4.5.1 apaptor on Solaris 8, after having been up for a few days the adaptor started re-directing evert request to the "redir" page. Stopping and restarting httpd solved the problem. Any idea of the reasons? thanks Michele Rossi This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC, unless specifically stated. From dhrivnak at fintech.com Wed Jun 27 08:35:53 2001 From: dhrivnak at fintech.com (david hrivnak) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: Sybase + JDBC and WO5 Message-ID: <002501c0ff1e$ee4f73a0$0c01a8c0@fintech.com> I'm having difficulty getting the Sybase JDBC driver to work with WO5... Despite scouring the documentation and altering the CLASSPATH and JavaConfig.plist files I keep getting the error "JDBC connection failed for driver :'jconn2.jar'. Driver not found in Java Runtime! Please verify your CLASSPATH environment variable. ..." I assume the "driver" field in the EOModeler JDBC adaptor pop-up is supposed to contain "jconn2.jar" but I've tried specifying a path and doing numerous things to the classpath/plist files with no effect. Any ideas on how to get this to work?? Thanks - David Hrivnak dhrivnak@fintech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /mailman/archive/webobjects-admin/attachments/20010627/5068c859/attachment.html From stereo at macbox.com Wed Jun 27 10:33:36 2001 From: stereo at macbox.com (Pascale Denis) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: Newbie: installation on NT sever/workstations Message-ID: This is a very basic question, yet the installation instructions aren't enough - or I missed something. The background info: I work for a Canadian federal agency (Statistics Canada), on one (out of many) intranet site. This is the first time WebObjects will be used (as far as I know). I used it in a previous workplace, but never installed it. We will be two developper (for now) working on it. We have NT4 workstations. We have a test server, NT4/IIS. We buyed a standard WO 4.5 box, with 1 development licence and 1 deployment licence. Now, the question: Where do I install WebObjects? a) Development version on the workstations, giving cgi-bin and web root from the server; b) On the server, accessing the deveopment tools remotely (some client-server setting); c) On both the server and the stations, saving our work on the server for tests; d) Some arcane configuration is needed for such a setting; e) It can't be done. As long as the answer is not e), I will be most pleased with any informations you could give me about how to set it up. Number of licences needed would also be of help. About legal matters: If more licences are needed to make it work, we will buy them; some more could get in for other intranet projects. (If tests are positives [and WO with a bilingual interface would help too], it may become an important development tool for intra- and extra-net applications projects here.) And, of course, all opinions (and previsions) are mine and doesn't necessarily represents those of Statistics Canada. Thanks a lot, Pascale Denis CS-1, Statistics Canada From Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk Wed Jun 27 12:37:07 2001 From: Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: WebObjects 4.0.1 on Solaris 8 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20010627135540.01a14880@pop3.ascom.ch> Message-ID: <200106271936.f5RJarJ48948@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> On Wednesday, June 27, 2001, at 12:57 pm, Fritz Wittwer wrote: > has anyone installed WebObjects 4.0.1 on Solaris 8. We are running it > on several machines with Solaris 7 now, but I have to install 3 new > machines, and I would like to install them with a current Version of > Solaris.. Yes. No problems at all. Paul -- http://www.plsys.co.uk From Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk Wed Jun 27 12:42:05 2001 From: Paul_Lynch at plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: Newbie: installation on NT sever/workstations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106271941.f5RJfxJ49004@mailhost.plsys.co.uk> On Wednesday, June 27, 2001, at 03:19 pm, Pascale Denis wrote: > We will be two developper (for now) working on it. We have NT4 > workstations. We have a test server, NT4/IIS. We buyed a standard WO 4.5 > box, with 1 development licence and 1 deployment licence. You need an extra license (one per developer machine, using the deployment license from these to cover your server). > Where do I install WebObjects? > a) Development version on the workstations, giving cgi-bin and web root > from the server; No. > b) On the server, accessing the deveopment tools remotely (some > client-server setting); No. > c) On both the server and the stations, saving our work on the server > for tests; Yes. I prefer to install both WO and the web server on each developer machine; it is generally better for testing this way. Paul -- http://www.plsys.co.uk From skb at global-village.net Wed Jun 27 16:46:22 2001 From: skb at global-village.net (Steven Besler) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: 1.2 versus 1.2v3 Message-ID: Greetings, Can anyone tell me what was fixed between Mac OS X Server 1.2 and Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 ? We are having some network problems with a box running 1.2, and I'm wondering if installing 1.2v3 will help. While I'm at it, does anyone know the procedure for upgrading from 1.2 to 1.2v3? Cheers, Steve -- Steven K. Besler Global Village Consulting, Inc. From sb at well.com Thu Jun 28 02:26:43 2001 From: sb at well.com (Stefan Berreth) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: 1.2 versus 1.2v3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: try this one http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n31291 - Stefan At 16:46 Uhr -0700 27.06.2001, Steven Besler wrote: >Greetings, > >Can anyone tell me what was fixed between Mac OS X Server 1.2 and >Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 ? > >We are having some network problems with a box running 1.2, and I'm >wondering if installing 1.2v3 will help. > >While I'm at it, does anyone know the procedure for upgrading from >1.2 to 1.2v3? > >Cheers, > >Steve > >-- >Steven K. Besler > >Global Village Consulting, Inc. > > >_______________________________________________ >WebObjects-admin mailing list >WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com >http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin -- s t e f a n . b e r r e t h - sb@well.com pgp key fingerprint: AB14 A3F2 E163 ADA2 6444 9AC6 2942 518E 3F78 4FAF pgp = pretty good privacy, see http://www.pgpi.org/ From Hugi at vefsyn.is Thu Jun 28 04:34:22 2001 From: Hugi at vefsyn.is (Hugi Thordarson) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: 1.2 versus 1.2v3 Message-ID: Hi Steven! Can you describe those network problems? I was having some bad problems with my G4/AGP running MOSXS 1.2. It would lose the network connection under certain circumstances, so it would not see other machines on the network, only itself. The problem was identical on the two G4s I am using, so I ruled out hardware problems much too early. It later turned out that if I installed an ethernet card, and used that instead of the built-in port, it worked like a charm. Apparently there's some problem with the built in card in this model of the G4 and MOSXS. Hope this helps. Cheers, Hugi // Hugi Thordarson // Development Mgr. // Vefs?n hf. - development, analysis, marketing // http://www.vefsyn.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Besler [mailto:skb@global-village.net] > Sent: 27. j?n? 2001 23:47 > To: WebObjects Admin > Subject: 1.2 versus 1.2v3 > > > > Greetings, > > Can anyone tell me what was fixed between Mac OS X Server 1.2 and > Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 ? > > We are having some network problems with a box running 1.2, and I'm > wondering if installing 1.2v3 will help. > > While I'm at it, does anyone know the procedure for upgrading from > 1.2 to 1.2v3? > > Cheers, > > Steve > > -- > Steven K. Besler > > Global Village Consulting, Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin > From j-rochkind at nwu.edu Thu Jun 28 09:48:58 2001 From: j-rochkind at nwu.edu (Jonathan Rochkind) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: Help! Still problems with WO5 JavaMonitor Solaris Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010628114758.01fe8480@hecky.acns.nwu.edu> My sysadmin and I are still having problems getting Monitor (ie JavaMonitor) up and running on WO5 Solaris. This is our first experience with WO5 AND our first experience with WO on Solaris, so maybe we're just asking for trouble, but man, the deployment documentation is _terrible_. So anyway, I'll append the text that occurs when we launch JavaMonitor (from a shell, by hand, from root account at the moment) at the end, but it appears to work correctly. It gives us as a URL: http://hostname:32804/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor When I access that URL, I get what looks like the un-interpreted .html file for the Monitor login page! With tags and everything. Also with none of the html tags interpreted by the browser---is it sending the wrong content-type header or something? But anyway, what the heck is going on? Someone must have gotten WO5 to work on Solaris. How did you do it? Any help appreciated. The shell output when launching JavaMonitor: # ./JavaMonitor Reading UNIXClassPath.txt ... Launching JavaMonitor.woa ... java -DWORootDirectory=/opt/Apple -DWOLocalRootDirectory=/opt/Apple/Local -D WOUserDirectory=/opt/Apple/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/JavaMonitor.woa - classpath "/opt/Apple/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/JavaMonitor.woa/Contents/R esources/Java/javamonitor.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaEOControl.fr amework/Resources/Java/javaeocontrol.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/ JavaXML.framework/Resources/Java/javaxml.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/ PrivateFrameworks/JavaMonitor.framework/Resources/Java/ javamonitor.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/ Resources/Java/javafoundation.jar:/opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks /JavaWOExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/javawoextensions.jar: /opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/Resources/ Java/javawebobjects.jar://Library/Java:/opt/Apple/Local/Library/Java: /opt/Apple/Library/Java:/Network/Library/Java: /opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Classes/classes.jar: /opt/Apple/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Classes/ui.jar:/usr/j2sdkee1. 3/lib" Application Creating LifebeatThread now with: JavaMonitor 32804 mr-rogers/129.105.16.190 108 5 30000 Your application is not running on a supported development platform. AutoLaunch will not work. Your application's URL is: http://mr-rogers:32804/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor Waiting for requests... ========== Here's what I get (in source view, but source view is the same as what the browser actually gives me, except it has newlines) when I try to access that URL [Yes, all the opening "<" marks indeed are missing, including the first one]: WEBOBJECT name=LoginSucceeded> WEBOBJECT name=Refresh>/WEBOBJECT> /WEBOBJECT> WEBOBJECT name=LoginRequired> HTML>HEAD>TITLE>Monitor for WebObjects 5/TITLE>/HEAD> BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#000000" LINK="#0000FF" VLINK="#FF40FF" ALINK="#FF4040"> WEBOBJECT NAME=LoginForm> CENTER> P>FONT COLOR=#FF0000>WEBOBJECT NAME=ErrorMsg>/WEBOBJECT>/FONT>/P> A password is required to access this applicationBR> BR> TABLE BORDER=2 CELPADDING=0 CELLSPACING=0 BGCOLOR=#c0c0c0> TR> TD> TABLE BORDER=0 CELLPADDING=10 CELLSPACING=5 BGCOLOR=#c0c0c0> TR> TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Password:/TD> TD>WEBOBJECT NAME=PasswordField>/WEBOBJECT>/TD> /TR> TR> TD COLSPAN=2 ALIGN=CENTER>WEBOBJECT NAME=SubmitPasswordButton>/WEBOBJECT>/TD> /TR> /TABLE> /TD> /TR> /TABLE> /CENTER> /WEBOBJECT> !-- LoginForm --> /BODY>/HTML> /WEBOBJECT> !-- LoginRequired --> ========================== From j-rochkind at nwu.edu Thu Jun 28 10:15:33 2001 From: j-rochkind at nwu.edu (Jonathan Rochkind) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: question 2 about WO5, Solaris, JavaMonitor Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010628121936.01ffd4b8@hecky.acns.nwu.edu> In WO 4.5, I could access monitor with the url http://host/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Monitor: In WO5, on Solaris, I can _not_ seem to access monitor as http://host/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor. I can access it with the specific port number supplied, although as mentioned in my last post it doesn't actually _work_, but I get some output. With the no-port URL, I just get "application not found". Is this just a "feature" of WO5? Is there anything I can do to make this work properly? Answers _especially_ welcome from people who have actually _done_ what they are reccomenending, or who are pretty damn sure that what they are reccomending will work. In particular, I am very leary of the answer "Well, add Monitor to itself", since it seems like a real recipe for disaster. Although if anyone has actually _done_ that and it's worked fine, that would be interesting to hear. --Jonathan From skb at global-village.net Thu Jun 28 15:53:42 2001 From: skb at global-village.net (Steven Besler) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Hugi Thordarson wrote: > Hi Steven! Hi Hugi! > Can you describe those network problems? Yes. Once every week or two, the box just seems to lose its connection to the network. It's not possible to connect in or out, but otherwise, everything seems fine. Rebooting makes the problem go away. (Might as well be running Windows...) > I was having some bad problems with my G4/AGP running MOSXS 1.2. It > would lose the network connection under certain circumstances, so it > would not see other machines on the network, only itself. That sounds almost like the problem we're having. Under what circumstances did this happen? > The problem was identical on the two G4s I am using, so I ruled out hardware > problems much too early. It later turned out that if I installed an ethernet > card, and used that instead of the built-in port, it worked like a charm. What model of ethernet card did you install? Our G4 came with 5 ethernet ports, one on the motherboard(?), and 4 on a PCI card. The last time the situation happen, we tried switching from the one on the motherboard (/dev/en0) to one on the card (/dev/en1). We switched the cable and reconfigured the system to use the other port, without rebooting. This had no effect. It seems unlikely that both interfaces would have a hardware defect... > Apparently there's some problem with the built in card in this model of the > G4 and MOSXS. Yikes! Did you have the newest firmware version on your G4? Descriptions of recent firmware updates describe improvements to ethernet support for "rare network configurations" and improvements to "system stability". > Hope this helps. Until I read your message, I was thinking that it was a problem with our switch or cabling. Now I'm not so sure anymore... Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any ideas would be appreciated, Steve -- Steven K. Besler Global Village Consulting, Inc. From Hugi at vefsyn.is Fri Jun 29 02:56:02 2001 From: Hugi at vefsyn.is (Hugi Thordarson) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3) Message-ID: Hi again Steven Your problem sounds identical to ours. It would happen quite sporadically, but I presume it was load related. One way to reproduce the behavior was to transfer a large file (200MB+) from the server locally. That would invariably kill networking until the server was rebooted. Just as you described, it just lost connection, everything else was fine. I'd tried upgrading the firmware, no help there. It does not seem to be switch or cabling related, since I tried numerous hubs and even a crossover cable directly to another machine. I'm somewhat baffled by this though; the problem seems too serious to escape testing at Apple and I'm sure we would have heard more about this if it affects all AGP G4s... The cards I'm using are AsanteFAST 10/100 (DEC21140 based), but I haven't tried other cards. I don't know the 4 port card from Apple, but a wild guess is that it's using the same chipset as the built-in one and it's a driver related problem. Keep me posted if you try to switch, I'm interested to know if it works for you too. Cheers, Hugi // Hugi Thordarson // Development Mgr. // Vefs?n hf. - development, analysis, marketing // http://www.vefsyn.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Besler [mailto:skb@global-village.net] > Sent: 28. j?n? 2001 22:54 > To: Hugi Thordarson > Cc: WebObjects Admin > Subject: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3) > > > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Hugi Thordarson wrote: > > > Hi Steven! > > Hi Hugi! > > > Can you describe those network problems? > > Yes. Once every week or two, the box just seems to lose > its connection to the network. It's not possible to connect > in or out, but otherwise, everything seems fine. Rebooting > makes the problem go away. (Might as well be running Windows...) > > > I was having some bad problems with my G4/AGP running MOSXS 1.2. It > > would lose the network connection under certain circumstances, so it > > would not see other machines on the network, only itself. > > That sounds almost like the problem we're having. Under what > circumstances did this happen? > > > The problem was identical on the two G4s I am using, so I > ruled out hardware > > problems much too early. It later turned out that if I > installed an ethernet > > card, and used that instead of the built-in port, it worked > like a charm. > > What model of ethernet card did you install? > > Our G4 came with 5 ethernet ports, one on the motherboard(?), > and 4 on a > PCI card. The last time the situation happen, we tried > switching from the > one on the motherboard (/dev/en0) to one on the card (/dev/en1). We > switched the cable and reconfigured the system to use the other port, > without rebooting. This had no effect. It seems unlikely that both > interfaces would have a hardware defect... > > > Apparently there's some problem with the built in card in > this model of the > > G4 and MOSXS. > > Yikes! > > Did you have the newest firmware version on your G4? Descriptions of > recent firmware updates describe improvements to ethernet support for > "rare network configurations" and improvements to "system stability". > > > Hope this helps. > > Until I read your message, I was thinking that it was a problem with > our switch or cabling. Now I'm not so sure anymore... > > Has anyone else experienced this problem? > > Any ideas would be appreciated, > > Steve > > -- > Steven K. Besler > > Global Village Consulting, Inc. From stephen at pyrusmalus.com Fri Jun 29 03:11:19 2001 From: stephen at pyrusmalus.com (Stephen Brandon) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3 Message-ID: Just something to check: make ABSOLUTELY sure that the IP address you are using is not conflicting with any other machine on the network. We had a problem with one machine we installed MacOSX on where the network connection would drop after a couple of minutes; NetInfo would time out etc. Nothing was logged about conflicting IP addresses. But we took the machine off the network, and tried to ping its IP address from another machine. Miraculously, it pinged! On every other OS I have worked on, duplicate IP addresses get reported/logged. But on that machine on MacOSX, they did not. It was very confusing. (ok, I've just re-read the message below, and since you tried a crossover cable it's less likely to be a rogue IP address. But if you're on a machine with multiple ethernet cards, double check that none of *them* conflict, just in case). Stephen Brandon stephen@pyrusmalus.com Web: http://www.pyrusmalus.com Tel: +44 141 427 9649 Fax: +44 141 427 1740 P y r u s M a l u s | d e s i g n | d e v e l o p | d e l i v e r | c o n s u l t | t r a i n | s u p p o r t | > Hi again Steven > > Your problem sounds identical to ours. It would happen quite sporadically, > but I presume it was load related. One way to reproduce the behavior was to > transfer a large file (200MB+) from the server locally. That would > invariably kill networking until the server was rebooted. Just as you > described, it just lost connection, everything else was fine. I'd tried > upgrading the firmware, no help there. > > It does not seem to be switch or cabling related, since I tried numerous > hubs and even a crossover cable directly to another machine. I'm somewhat > baffled by this though; the problem seems too serious to escape testing at > Apple and I'm sure we would have heard more about this if it affects all AGP > G4s... > > The cards I'm using are AsanteFAST 10/100 (DEC21140 based), but I haven't > tried other cards. I don't know the 4 port card from Apple, but a wild guess > is that it's using the same chipset as the built-in one and it's a driver > related problem. > > Keep me posted if you try to switch, I'm interested to know if it works for > you too. > > Cheers, > Hugi From Hugi at vefsyn.is Fri Jun 29 03:32:52 2001 From: Hugi at vefsyn.is (Hugi Thordarson) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3 Message-ID: Hi again! I tried different IP addresses. The AsanteFAST (Which works great) is using the same address as the machine was always using, so that's probably not the problem. Cheers, H > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Brandon [mailto:stephen@pyrusmalus.com] > Sent: 29. j?n? 2001 10:11 > To: webobjects-admin@omnigroup.com > Subject: RE: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3 > > > Just something to check: make ABSOLUTELY sure that the IP > address you are > using is not conflicting with any other machine on the > network. We had a > problem with one machine we installed MacOSX on where the > network connection > would drop after a couple of minutes; NetInfo would time out > etc. Nothing was > logged about conflicting IP addresses. But we took the > machine off the network, > and tried to ping its IP address from another machine. > Miraculously, it > pinged! > > On every other OS I have worked on, duplicate IP addresses get > reported/logged. But on that machine on MacOSX, they did not. > It was very > confusing. > > (ok, I've just re-read the message below, and since you tried > a crossover > cable it's less likely to be a rogue IP address. But if > you're on a machine > with multiple ethernet cards, double check that none of > *them* conflict, just > in case). > > Stephen Brandon > stephen@pyrusmalus.com > > Web: http://www.pyrusmalus.com Tel: +44 141 427 9649 > Fax: +44 141 427 1740 > > P y r u s M a l u s | d e s i g n | d e v e l o p | > d e l i v e r > | c o n s u l t | t r a i n | s u p p o r t | > > > > Hi again Steven > > > > Your problem sounds identical to ours. It would happen > quite sporadically, > > but I presume it was load related. One way to reproduce the > behavior was to > > transfer a large file (200MB+) from the server locally. That would > > invariably kill networking until the server was rebooted. > Just as you > > described, it just lost connection, everything else was > fine. I'd tried > > upgrading the firmware, no help there. > > > > It does not seem to be switch or cabling related, since I > tried numerous > > hubs and even a crossover cable directly to another > machine. I'm somewhat > > baffled by this though; the problem seems too serious to > escape testing at > > Apple and I'm sure we would have heard more about this if > it affects all AGP > > G4s... > > > > The cards I'm using are AsanteFAST 10/100 (DEC21140 based), > but I haven't > > tried other cards. I don't know the 4 port card from Apple, > but a wild guess > > is that it's using the same chipset as the built-in one and > it's a driver > > related problem. > > > > Keep me posted if you try to switch, I'm interested to know > if it works for > > you too. > > > > Cheers, > > Hugi > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin > From uli at mac.com Fri Jun 29 03:47:19 2001 From: uli at mac.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_K=F6ster?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3 References: Message-ID: <008601c10089$ea8133a0$762801d4@netmatic.com> Hi I presume it is load related and not only a MacOS X(10.0 or Server1.3 and so on) problem. It also occours under MacOS 9 only scenarios. The error rate goes down when using AppleTalk (which is slower), switching to 10MB or using slower maschines on the clients. The problem never occurs on a beige G3 with built in 10MB Ethernet as a Server. Have fun Ulrich From froy at austin.rr.com Fri Jun 29 06:43:01 2001 From: froy at austin.rr.com (Fabien Roy) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200106291342.f5TDgsu3024566@sm10.texas.rr.com> Hi Steven. I have seen some NetGear switcher forgetting their map. This would lead to your symptoms. We had to reboot the machine or pwer cycle the switch. Fabien On Thursday, June 28, 2001, at 05:54 PM, Steven Besler wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Hugi Thordarson wrote: > >> Hi Steven! > > Hi Hugi! > >> Can you describe those network problems? > > Yes. Once every week or two, the box just seems to lose > its connection to the network. It's not possible to connect > in or out, but otherwise, everything seems fine. Rebooting > makes the problem go away. (Might as well be running Windows...) > >> I was having some bad problems with my G4/AGP running MOSXS 1.2. It >> would lose the network connection under certain circumstances, so it >> would not see other machines on the network, only itself. > > That sounds almost like the problem we're having. Under what > circumstances did this happen? > >> The problem was identical on the two G4s I am using, so I ruled out >> hardware >> problems much too early. It later turned out that if I installed an >> ethernet >> card, and used that instead of the built-in port, it worked like a charm. > > What model of ethernet card did you install? > > Our G4 came with 5 ethernet ports, one on the motherboard(?), and 4 on a > PCI card. The last time the situation happen, we tried switching from the > one on the motherboard (/dev/en0) to one on the card (/dev/en1). We > switched the cable and reconfigured the system to use the other port, > without rebooting. This had no effect. It seems unlikely that both > interfaces would have a hardware defect... > >> Apparently there's some problem with the built in card in this model of >> the >> G4 and MOSXS. > > Yikes! > > Did you have the newest firmware version on your G4? Descriptions of > recent firmware updates describe improvements to ethernet support for > "rare network configurations" and improvements to "system stability". > >> Hope this helps. > > Until I read your message, I was thinking that it was a problem with > our switch or cabling. Now I'm not so sure anymore... > > Has anyone else experienced this problem? > > Any ideas would be appreciated, > > Steve > > -- > Steven K. Besler > > Global Village Consulting, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > WebObjects-admin mailing list > WebObjects-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-admin > ------ Fabien Roy 33 Lost Meadow Trail Lakeway TX 78738 512-608-0060 Home 512-796-9854 Cell froy@austin.rr.com fabienlroy@mac.com From james at primax.com Fri Jun 29 12:14:35 2001 From: james at primax.com (.j a m e s =?ISO-8859-1?B?sLc=?=.) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: WO5 deployment ? In-Reply-To: <200106291342.f5TDgsu3024566@sm10.texas.rr.com> Message-ID: i'm unable to deploy an app using WO5 on osX server v2.0 with WO and apache installed and running. i get to the point of starting my instance and run into problems. my process: ?i'm building in osX 10.0.4 using project builder 1.0.1 (v63.0) ?i have selected build style Deployment and target MyApp. ?after building, project builder creates a directory MyApp.woa inside of MyApp.woa: MyApp (file) MyApp.CMD (file) -Contents (dir) inside of Contents are 5 directories MacOS Resources UNIX WebServerResources Windows ?i copied MyApp.woa to /Library/Webserver/Deployment folder ?i open javamonitor from terminal. ?i add my host successfully, "hostname.com" and monitor tells me it's available ?i add my HTTP adaptor URL: http://hostname.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects (even though WebObjects is inside of cgi-executable it's an osX/apache thing?) ?i add my application with: path = /Library/Webserver/Deployment/MyApp.woa/MyApp i'm unsure of Output Path, anytime i try to enter something in this field i get an error, "?An Exception has Occurred" *java Error below. so, i give up on the output path, hoping it's just for logging. ?i add an instance of this app and attempt to start it with no luck. ?i then look for documentation for WO5 deployment and all i find is WO4.5 documentation at apple. with this in mind, i'm sure i might have made bad choices in my decisions above. thanks for any help or insight into deployment. -james *java error: Exception occurred while handling request: com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$UnknownKeyException: [ takeValueForKey()]: attempt to assign value to unknown key: 'macOutputPath'. This class does not have an instance variable of the name macOutputPath or _macOutputPath, nor a method of the name setMacOutputPath or _setMacOutputPath From skb at global-village.net Fri Jun 29 17:03:15 2001 From: skb at global-village.net (Steven Besler) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Hugi Thordarson wrote: > Your problem sounds identical to ours. It would happen quite sporadically, > but I presume it was load related. One way to reproduce the behavior was to > transfer a large file (200MB+) from the server locally. By locally, I assume you mean from/to a machine on the same LAN. > That would invariably kill networking until the server was rebooted. > Just as you described, it just lost connection, everything else was > fine. We have tried this on an "identical" G4, and it had no effect. Perhaps we should try with the production machine. > I'd tried upgrading the firmware, no help there. OK. > It does not seem to be switch or cabling related, since I tried numerous > hubs and even a crossover cable directly to another machine. I'm sort of hoping that it's our switch, but don't have any definitive evidence of that yet... > I'm somewhat baffled by this though; the problem seems too serious to > escape testing at Apple and I'm sure we would have heard more about > this if it affects all AGP G4s... Perhaps it's a manufacturing defect that only effects some AGP G4s... > The cards I'm using are AsanteFAST 10/100 (DEC21140 based), but I haven't > tried other cards. Did you speak with Apple? If your machine is still under warranty, it seems to me that they owe you an ethernet card... Unfortunately, it seems that they won't talk to me unless I pay them $199 USD, and who knows if they'll be able to help. > I don't know the 4 port card from Apple, but a wild guess is that it's > using the same chipset as the built-in one and it's a driver related > problem. Possible, I suppose. But you'd think that the best drivers would be for the hardware that Apple actually ships! > Keep me posted if you try to switch, I'm interested to know if it > works for you too. OK. Cheers, Steve PS: It occurs to me that this might be slightly off topic for the list. If so, I apologize. -- Steven K. Besler Global Village Consulting, Inc. From skb at global-village.net Fri Jun 29 17:56:27 2001 From: skb at global-village.net (Steven Besler) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: G4/1.2 network loss (was RE: 1.2 versus 1.2v3) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here's some more information: (1) The problem only occurred after we started using IP aliasing on the offending interface. This also probably coincided with increased network traffic, though. (2) We are getting this message in our system log: mach_kernel: arplookup: unable to enter address for c0a80003 I assume that the hex number is an IP, not an ethernet address This is 192.168.0.3 in octet notation. We have no references to this IP anywhere in our configuration. Also, I think that's a private IP. Anyone know what this message means? Thanks, Steve -- Steven K. Besler Global Village Consulting, Inc. From oliver at boinx.com Sat Jun 30 13:15:49 2001 From: oliver at boinx.com (Oliver Breidenbach) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: fsockets vs. nbsockets and timeouts Message-ID: Hi there, I?ve been running into a problem where I create a 10 MB download from a blob in a database and that works ok for fast internet connections and doesn?t for slow. I suspect that there is some sort of timeout involved and the method of connecting the WOAdaptor on the Webserver with the WOApp may be the key. Does anyone have any information about something like that? Should I use fsockets (which according to the docs don?t have time outs) instead of nbsockets? Or should I set the timeout values? What are the defaults? Which timeout is responsible? From cjaeger at visualfood.ch Sat Jun 30 15:28:55 2001 From: cjaeger at visualfood.ch (Cornelius Jaeger) Date: Thu Nov 3 13:34:02 2005 Subject: WO5 Deployment: Project Builder Bug In-Reply-To: <200106301921.MAA22154@lists.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <200106302228.AAA4020350@mustang.centralnet.ch> Hey James, Apparently Project Builder has a bug so you can't build properly. You have to make from the command line, there is an apple tech note on it: Here is the extract you may be able to get the full monty if you search by the ref number: From the WO5 Release Notes: Reference: 2662018 Problem: A WebObjects project cannot be installed from inside the Project Builder IDE on Mac OS X, or performing a split install did not work on Mac OS X. Description: An install should not be performed from inside the Project Builder IDE. This should be done from a Terminal command line. Split installs require that the install command be issued twice, once with each of two different build styles. Workaround: To perform a "standard" (not split) install, make you you have appropriate permissions, change to the directory containing your project's .pbproj file and type the command: pbxbuild install -buildstyle Deployment DSTROOT=/ To perform a split install, first perform a standard install and then type the command: pbxbuild install -buildstyle WebServer DSTROOT=/ Seems weird that this is not fixed. Your getting a CC private in case your on digest mode, sounds you might need this solution quickly take Care Cornelius -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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