accesskeys

Jonathan Tyzack jtyzack at mac.com
Wed Jul 13 05:40:28 PDT 2005


Hi Clytie,

I can't find any examples of what you mean without registering to log  
in, but my immediate reaction would be that you won't be able to use  
the shortcuts you have tried because they are system specific ones -  
anything with just option- (aka alt) or option-shift as the delimiter  
is going to be interpreted by the OS as a keyboard input for special  
characters (as defined in Keyboard Viewer). This will have nothing to  
do with browser. I would either try using option-control as your  
shortcut delimiter, or switch to using Full Keyboard Access as a  
means of selecting the buttons themselves within the browser window.

Cheers,

Jonathan


On 13 Jul 2005, at 06:08, Clytie Siddall wrote:

> Hi guys :)
>
> Long time no e: difficult (non-technical) to post, but I need to  
> sort this one out if possible.
>
> The Pootle online translation tool:
>
> http://pootle.wordforge.org/
>
> now implements accesskeys, so the user can have keyboard control  
> over a number of buttons on which one would otherwise click (e.g.  
> to submit that string, copy the original string, skip that string).  
> I need this facility, since I have difficulty controlling the mouse.
>
> However, in OmniWeb, these accesskeys don't appear to do anything.
>
> I'm mapping the "alt" key to "option": is that right? My iBook  
> keyboard has them both on that key.
>
> Option-S just gives me the German ß, using any keyboard layout. It  
> doesn't submit the string, as assigned.
>
> Does OmniWeb support accesskeys? How can I start using them? If not  
> through OmniWeb, Is it possible to use the OSX Keyboard Shortcuts  
> and/or Keyboard Maestro to use them?
>
> Further information on accesskeys below, from a very helpful and  
> well-informed member of our Pootle community:
>
> Thankyou for any help you can offer with this. :)
>
> On 12/07/2005, at 9:03 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
>
>
>> The accesskey is part of the HTML standard and the usage depends  
>> on your browser and how it implements it.
>> For example, on Firefox it allows one access key (I suppose most  
>> proper implementations allow only one)
>> and you cannot define multiple ones for the same button. Actually  
>> it makes sense for this.
>> In addition, Alt+<letter> sometimes conflicts with the File/Edit/ 
>> View/etc menus of the browser, so if
>> you have a localised browser, you end up opening the browser menus.
>>
>> You will have to check with the OmniWeb people on how they  
>> implement access keys in a foreign language.
>> The Alt-S giving the german ß probably means at there are a few  
>> Alt-?  shortcuts to type accented keys, a poor
>> decision.
>> Try out Safari or Firefox and see how they behave on this.
>>
>> For testing accesskeys, have a look at http://www.cs.tut.fi/ 
>> ~jkorpela/forms/accesskey.html
>>
>> The proper documentation page for access keys is of course:
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html
>>
>
> from Clytie
>
> Clytie Siddall -- Renmark, in the Riverland of South Australia
>
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