multiple workspace

Jake Robb jakerobb at mac.com
Sun Jan 9 07:17:51 PST 2005


Norman,

An important distinction which you appear to be missing.

You can open MULTIPLE windows in one workspace, each containing a distinct
set of tabs.  Unlike every development IDE I've ever used, which can only
have one project open at a time.

Put one on monitor one, and another on monitor two.  Put another in a
different Virtual Desktop.  Make use of the "Save Window Size" command on
the Window menu.  Keep all of these windows in the same workspace (for now
-- unless OW gains the ability to have multiple workspaces open).

-Jake



Norman Richards wrote:

> 
> On Jan 7, 2005, at 9:57 PM, DV Henkel-Wallace wrote:
> 
>> However this is despite some of the new ideas being not fully baked
>> (conceptually).  Workspaces are an example.  Do you remember the move
>> from Finder -> Multifinder?  That was a big conceptual leap (and one
>> that many people still have trouble with!) even though the working
>> model was already well understood in the research community.  But it
>> took the Mac to introduce it to the PC world.
> 
> No - I don't remember it because I was a UNIX guy who had been used to
> multitasking for quite some time.  I never understood why anyone would
> want to use a system where you could do one thing.  And it certainly
> wasn't anything new in the PC realm.   The Amiga, for one, did it long
> before and much better.
> 
>> Omniweb incorporates two ideas which are still largely alien to the PC
>> (Windows and Mac) world.  One is inherent to browsers: the idea that
>> the document is independent of the application.  But the other is that
>> of an "activity" or "workspace."
> 
> Again, being a UNIX guy for all those years, the concept of a workspace
> is nothing new.  How you guys get by without virtual desktops amazes
> me.   It's 15 year old technology at least, and the closest we can get
> to it now is expose and dashboard.  (both VERY nice, IMHO)
> 
> But to me that's a system level concern, not an app level concern.  The
> only thing that is missing is that age old concept of a project.  To
> me, a workspace looks like a project.  (think IDE if you are a
> programmer type)  It's a window with a collection of resources.   And,
> naturally you are going to potentially have multiple projects going on
> at the same time.  And, you probably don't want the other projects to
> disappear just because you changed focus.  But, even if you do we have
> concepts like expose and virtual desktops and multiple monitors to
> manage the mess.
> 
>> I think it's cool that the OW guys implemented this feature and then
>> pushed it out there.  I hope they are able to evolve it.
> 
> Very much.  I can tell you that as a developer who does a lot of web
> work, the idea of workspaces is incredible.  I can keep a collection of
> pages all together and navigate them visually.  That's amazing!  Then,
> when I'm done working with that set I can file that set of pages away
> until I need them again.  The problem is I don't just want that set, I
> want several sets available.   OmniWeb does that, but it forces all my
> other windows to go away when I try to activate another context.  Even
> worse, when I go back to my original workspace, the windows aren't
> where I left them because OmniWeb doesn't respect my own virtual
> desktop workspaces.  (it can't, because it destroys the original
> window, prohibiting the system from "remembering it")
> 
> I don't mean to rant to much.  When I look at OmniWeb I see something
> that is so close to being a perfect too for multitasking developer, yet
> the implementation of it renders it almost useless.  It's frustrating
> only because I like it so much.
> 
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