[OT] crashing and Unsanity

[Mark Smith]

shrubberies at adelphia.net wrote:

>On Sep 23, 2004, at 5:24 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
>
>> shrubberies at adelphia.net wrote:
>>
>>> The best way to fix problems with haxies is to write proper and
>>> rule-following code so the haxie does not run into unexpected code
>>
>> How ironic and silly.
>>
>> For every proper rule-following app, every APE *IS* unexpected code.
>>
>> Its not the APEs that we should be trying to protect from unexpected
>> code. Jeez. Its the right and proper apps that we should be protecting
>> from APEs.
>>
>You read that wrong.

No, I read it correctly. The mistake was in your writing and (presumably)
in your thinking.

>In our example, APE would have a better chance of working properly if
>OmniWeb was the rule-following app.

Nonsense. Omniweb is to all intents and purposes the rule-following app.
APEs *break* several primordial OS rules. OW OTOH is what you could call a
"good OS citizen".

>Because he wrote it and the frameworks that Apple, the OS, Safari, and now
>OmniWeb use don't work well with it.

Are you sure you know what you are talking about here ? There are a myriad
of frameworks in the OS. TextExtras is but one non-apple framework. TextExtras continues to function fully in some cocoa "text document-based" apps and not at all or only partially in others, as was always the case.

>> Its not particularly designed for use with web browsers or email clients.
>
>But it is designed to work with text objects in applications.

That is a more general description of TextExtras than I think Mike Ferris
would like people to use. I think/hope it is fair to say, that TextExtras was PRIMARILY designed for improving the text editing and formatting options in simple cocoa editors (e.g. TextEdit).

>> Comparing APEs with frameworks like TextExtras is absurd.
>
>Why? Aren't they just two sources for bogies that are not part of the
>standard OS installation?

No. They are worlds apart in every respect.

>Do all of your dialogs contain words like ironic, silly, absurd?

Your comparison of APEs and TextExtras was absurd. If that word rubs you up
the wrong way, we could use a different one.

mark.