Help installing b4, please! -- PROXY HELP

[Wesselman, Timothy]

Ken,
Unfortunately, I have found that the problems go a little deeper than 
we previously suspected... Here is what I found:

1.	I restarted and logged in as the root user to change the root's 
profile for the OmniWeb proxy settings. As you had mentioned, it did 
allow me to enter values in the ONE of the proxy fields. So, I was 
able to enter proxy.domain.com:port. Yet, this won't actually work 
because it tries to use the proxy to access the proxy since my domain 
and the proxy's domain differ (ie intel.developers.omnigroup.com 
versus proxy.omnigroup.com).
2.	Before restarting again, I decided to try logging out to see if 
this would work around the editing bug. In fact, it does allow you to 
edit the proxy info by logging out and back in. One small problem 
though...
3.	Upon logging back in without a restart, I found that although I 
could edit the values each time, it did not retain the changes.
4.	Could this be a permissions issue, I thought? So I used AppOpener 
to open OmniWeb as the root user. This brought up a totally virgin set 
of proxy settings not matching any of the values that I previously set 
with the root user or the values for my current user. Nevertheless, I 
was able to edit ONE of these fields as well so I gave that a shot.
5.	By this point, I figured that a restart would be the best thing to 
do. When I came back in as root, the root values were now the generic 
initial values again... I changed them again...
6.	Then I decided to try the "Save All" to perhaps save my settings... 
This led to permission problems - at this time, I am using the root 
user and was surprised to see that I did not have permission to save 
my sample bookmarks or a new one I created in the english.lprog 
directory in OmniWeb.app or in my root user folder. But when I chose 
"quit", it asked me to save changes to both of these documents. I 
answered yes for the root user folder and it completed with complaint. 
Upon restart, I found that the proxy setting was finally retained 
correctly, but the SampleBookmarks and the new one I created were not 
created in my root user folder as I was led to believe before. By the 
way, it is the "Save Failed" dialog that I am hitting, and I 
definitely have space on my drive...
7.	I attempted to add a new *.domain.com entry to the do not proxy 
area... Editing was allowed (root user). Upon restart, I found that
8.	For my normal user, it seems that although I am editing the proxy 
value with restarts and continued logging out and in, it is not 
retaining any change for the initial value that I incorrectly entered 
proxy.compaq.com/:8080
9.	BTW, one recommended interface change for the proxy setting would 
be to allow for different port values for the protocols in the proxy. 
10.	Restarted... root now is missing my most recent entry of 
*.domain.com in the do not proxy field. I added a new one again and 
changed it from "com" to "*.domain.com"  ---- BTW, it is safe to 
assume that the base domain will be the same as the proxy's and the 
user's. Therefore you may want to make the add button add the base 
user domain instead of just com... What if it is an educational user, 
etc?
11.	Restarted... root user login. Again, my "*.compaq.com" setting is 
missing from the do not proxy fields. I changed the default entry of 
my exact domain this time to be the desired "*.compaq.com"
12.	Restarted... root user login. My changes have again been lost. 
Unfortunately, this renders the proxy support useless for my 
applications. I also logged back in as my normal user and found that 
the values for my proxy server have remained at the incorrect values I 
set the first, despite my attempts to change it.

I hope that this helps you all track down the bugs. All in all you 
have a great application. I also use and really like the CPU monitor 
that you all wrote. That was one thing that I really liked about the 
BEOS; it had a great CPU load monitor. I am running on a P166 and I am 
really curious what kind of usage/load Rhapsody and the apps place on 
this low end system's CPU.

Thanks,
Tim

>From the Desk of:
Tim Wesselman
Compaq Computer Corp.
(281) 518-3786

-----Original Message-----
From:	Ken Case [SMTP:kc at omnigroup.com]
Sent:	Thursday, January 15, 1998 7:52 PM
To:	Wesselman, Timothy
Cc:	omniweb-l at ignem.omnigroup.com
Subject:	Re: Help installing b4, please! -- PROXY HELP

> It seems that I can only edit the values the first time I load the 
app
> and select the admin prefs.

Thanks for the bug report.  This is a Rhapsody-specific bug (which
also crops up in editing bookmark labels); we're looking into it.

> In addition, I need to specify a port address as well. I have tried 
to
> enter http://proxy.compaq.com/:8080 but this does not work.

Use http://proxy.compaq.com:8080/.  (This is the standard URL form
for specifying alternate ports.)

> Also I found that it wont let me change the non proxied sites, too. 
 If
> I try to add a new one, it just adds "com" and won't allow me to 
change
> it. I have tried this as root and my normal user.

This is another manifestation of that bug where you can only edit
once during the lifetime of the application.  If you quit and
restart, you'll be able to edit.

> One more thing, when I try to add protocols to the proxy it only 
adds
> http...  How does one go about adding ftp, etc ??

You should be able to double-click on a protocol ("http") and enter
another protocol (e.g., "ftp") in its place.  I'm afraid you're going 
to get bit by that editing bug again, though, so you'll probably
have to quit and restart a few times.

Do note that if you don't add any protocols, the proxy applies to
all protocols.

				Ken