From puran at new-earth.com Thu Jan 1 09:43:34 1998 From: puran at new-earth.com (Puran Bair) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:19 2005 Subject: Need more instr. in setting up PPP Message-ID: <9801011742.AA01833@ new-earth.com> Have any of you written a more detailed description of what it takes to get PPP working than the PPP Release Notes furnished with OPENSTEP 4.2? I hope that one of you has been called by this mission on behalf of mankind. Omniweb is too good to allow its use to be limited to those who can decipher the System Admin notes. We have to get ready for the big time now. Rhapsody is going to send millions of users our way. We've got to make it easy for them to use Omniweb. In the notes from NeXT Computer on PPP installation, I'm OK down to the section called "Initial Testing", which assumes I know a lot about kermit that I don't know. Then it refers me to the man pages for pppd, which has a hundred options. It doesn't actually say I should run pppd, but I assume I should, because the next section in the notes is "Determining if the link is actually up". Obviously, it's not up; that's where I'm lost. In lieu of a set of instructions, could someone provide me with the files they use to start pppd? Thanks for your help. Puran Bair From petro at playboy.com Mon Jan 5 16:34:03 1998 From: petro at playboy.com (Petro) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:19 2005 Subject: Proxy Support in Omniweb 3? Message-ID: <34B17BFB.5A0A26D6@playboy.com> I was/am trying to use Omniweb on a Rhapsody (development release) box (9600/200). There doesn't seem to be any support for going thru a poxy server. Am I correct in this, or did I miss something? Thanx. Petro@playboy.com From hcpestana at hotmail.com Tue Jan 6 02:29:16 1998 From: hcpestana at hotmail.com (Helder Pestana) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:19 2005 Subject: help Message-ID: <19980106102916.7035.qmail@hotmail.com> I would like to get the Omniweb_1,because the software that i use only acept the Omniweb_1, but i only find the Omniweb_2,can u help me. I would be most greatfull!!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From hamps at reconalpha.ius.cs.cmu.edu Thu Jan 8 19:17:30 1998 From: hamps at reconalpha.ius.cs.cmu.edu (John B. Hampshire II) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:19 2005 Subject: OW 3.0b3 expires soon Message-ID: <9801090317.AA00584@reconalpha.ius.cs.cmu.edu> I just downloaded OW3.0b3, and notice that it expires 1/15/98. Is there an update coming out this week, or a workaround to the expiration? Thanks! -John From Zurie at gonzoweb.com Sat Jan 10 07:13:56 1998 From: Zurie at gonzoweb.com (Zuriel Andrusyshyn) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:19 2005 Subject: more ethernet networking Message-ID: <1327695719-20920206@www.gonzoweb.com> ok.... heres what i got... i have a DHCP static ip cable modem.... it has connectoins on a http://local-host the subnet masking is 255.255.255.0 my static ip at the moment is 24.92.17.144 so is there a special trick that you can do to get dhcp to work? :) i hope so... i'd love to start trying all the internet stuff... thanks for the help guys, and btw... whats that apple address that gives me the ethernet help From herren at cupertino.middlebury.edu Mon Jan 12 11:43:24 1998 From: herren at cupertino.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Download OmniWeb 3 Message-ID: <9801121943.AA08235@cupertino.middlebury.edu> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/x-nextmail Size: 1099 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/omniweb-l/attachments/19980112/baa06041/attachment.bin From clt at kiss.sk Mon Jan 12 12:12:03 1998 From: clt at kiss.sk (Tibor Lorincz) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Page Margin Message-ID: <199801122012.VAA01373@w3.kiss.sk> Greetings, I working on some intranet applications and of-course I need printed output. (Omniweb->Print). All outputs looks very well, but sometime I need full-A4 paper size. OmniWeb has 1 inch page margin default. Several application in "Page Layout" panel have cells for margin setting... Is any way (dwrite, netinfo etc...) changing default page-margin for printing from OmniWeb? Thanx, tibor --- Tibor.Lorincz@kiss.sk KISS Ltd. (Kochman Information Systems & Services) Janotova 15 84105 Bratislava Tel: +421-7-723366 Slovak Republic Fax: +421-7-728828 ========== MIME & NeXTmail welcome! ========== From chaka at wco.com Tue Jan 13 00:41:38 1998 From: chaka at wco.com (chaka@wco.com) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: download of OmniWeb 3, to Nextstep 3.3 Message-ID: <199801130841.AAA18338@shell.wco.com> 1) Are there online instructions for downloading this particular combination? 2) I have 'OmniWeb 2' on the machine, now. Do I have to delete it? And if so, at what point in the procedure? From chaka at wco.com Tue Jan 13 17:40:40 1998 From: chaka at wco.com (Chad Mears) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: (Revised query). Download of OmniWeb 3, to Nextstep 3.3 In-Reply-To: <199801130841.AAA18338@shell.wco.com> Message-ID: OmniGroup Tech Staff, This is a revised query from my post of 13 Jan, 00:41 (below). I have just downloaded your 'OmniWeb-3.0b3b-N' to my Nextstation running Nextstep 3.3. I'm replacing 'OmniWeb-2.0', and its support files. I'm confused as to which of the following files (most of which were applicable to 'OmniWeb-2.0') need to be completely DELETED, or RE-ASSIGNED to other locations. Your guidance here would be appreciated. The files : 1) TI_OmniLaser_2108.ppd 2) Receipts/OmniImageFilter.pkg 3) Receipts/OmniImage.pkg [Are there updated versions of 'OmniImage' & 'OmniImageFilter', since 1995?] 4) Receipts/OmniWeb.pkg 5) me/.NeXT/.NextTrash/OmniWeb-3.0b3b-N.tar [Can I DELETE this, now that I've 'untarred' the Omni-3 pkg.?] 6) OmniImageFilter.service 7) Adobe_Illustrator/pdf/TI_OmniLaser_2108.pdf 8) OmniImage.app [Is this still applicable? ..Or is there a new version?] 9) Dumps/Omni.dump 10) Dumps/Omni.scratch [Are these 'dumps' still applicable?] Appreciatively, Chad Mears chaka@wco.com **************************** On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 chaka@wco.com wrote: > 1) Are there online instructions for downloading this particular combination? > 2) I have 'OmniWeb 2' on the machine, now. Do I have to delete it? And if so, at what point in the procedure? > From kc Wed Jan 14 01:11:04 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Download of OmniWeb 3, to Nextstep 3.3 Message-ID: <199801140910.BAA01848@ignem.omnigroup.com> > I have just downloaded your 'OmniWeb-3.0b3b-N' to my Nextstation > running Nextstep 3.3. Sorry, OmniWeb 3 requires version 4.2 of the operating system. If you upgrade to OPENSTEP/Mach 4.2, you'll be able to run OmniWeb 3; until then, you'll need to stick with OmniWeb 2. Ken From kc Wed Jan 14 03:28:40 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3.0 beta 4 is now available Message-ID: <199801141128.DAA07831@ignem.omnigroup.com> This is an early beta release of OmniWeb 3. There are still bugs, it is still slow, and there are still features that we haven't yet implemented. See http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ for more information (including a list of download sites), or you can download the app directly from ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/. This release expires May 31, 1998. Enjoy! Ken Release notes for 3.0 beta 4 (from http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ReleaseNotes.html, where they're formatted better): · General - Many memory leaks fixed. Still a memory-hog, but not as bad. Work continues. - Quitting while there are active downloads now pops up a warning panel. - On Rhapsody, Japanese EUC and Shift-JIS pages work, and Japanese characters should display correctly throughout the program (bookmarks, progress panels, etc), although the interfaces still aren't localized. - Setting up a proxy no longer disables accessing machines in your local net (duh). · Bookmarks - Dragging into bookmarks won't leave the insert marker lying around after you finish an operation. - Dragging between bookmarks windows doesn't fail. - A bookmark won't lose its annotation text as soon as you look at it. - Bookmarks no longer temporarily overdraw or draw incorrectly, then look OK. - Bookmark checking is now limited to only using 3 of the 32 available threads, so you can no longer lock up OmniWeb by checking all your bookmarks at once. Check out the preferences panel for bookmarks, and try it! - There is now a tiny check button on the bookmark panel that toggles whether a tiny check is drawn to the left of bookmarks which have automatic checking enabled. - The bookmark checking for changes since last viewed algorithm has been changed since so many sites now don't return a correct 'last-modified-date' header (dynamic HTML killed that). Now we actually look at the raw text of the page (skipping tags) and see if that has changed since the last time you viewed the page. This is nice because pages with dynamic, graphic ads won't trigger the "new" flag, as they do in Internet Explorer 4.0's lame attempt to copy our feature. (No, we don't store the page text itself, we store a SHA1 signature in the bookmarks file. Tricky, eh?) · HTML - Text outside of tables now wraps to the right edge of the window even if some cells are wider than the window (just like Netscape and OmniWeb 2). - We now highlight the selected anchor with a dashed box (like IE), and use the 'active anchor color' only on links that are actively being fetched (like IE and Netscape). This fixes the annoying bug where clever HTML authors set the active anchor color to be the background color, so as you would select anchors (via right-click or whatever) they'd disappear. - Tables ¨ support vertical alignment again. ¨ background colors work again. ¨ better layout, more closely imitates Netscape's 'algorithm'. · Browser - Context menus ¨ Added context menus for links. ¨ Added context menus for the page-back and page-forward buttons. ¨ All context menus currently only work on Rhapsody/Intel and Win95/NT. Apple is working on Rhapsody/PPC support (it was there for a while, but dropped out). - Clicking between characters in a link no longer fails. (No more ignored mouse clicks.) - Fixed random crasher with bringing up find panel. - Frames draw border in highlightColor (definable in Win95 and Rhapsody) around themselves when they are the first responder, which lets you know that the history and arrow keys are applying to them, not the whole window. Border isn't drawn if the HTML frame 'border' attribute is off (like in Netscape 4.0, which incidentally copied this feature from OmniWeb 2.0). - Broswer address field (combo box now, actually) now has a title on it, which changes from "Page address:" to "Goto address:" depending on whether the address it's showing is the address of the page or the address of the page you're thinking about going to. Works nifty. - The selected anchor nows draw a little dotted box around itself a la IE. We used to draw the selected anchor in the "selected anchor" color, but since no one else was doing this bad HTML authors would make the selected color be the same as their background color (don't ask me why) and so the selected link would disappear. Now we only draw a link in the selected color if it's actually being followed, like IE and NS. · History - New history preferences panel. - New persistant history panel remembers where you've been, sorts addresses by site. - History for frames works again (hitting arrow keys with frame selected moves the frame back). - Combo box can work off of persistant history or window history. · Processes panel - New layout. More information on processes, presented in a clearer manner. - New process queueing and priorities system: ¨ All processes are now sorted into 5 headers, currently "Saving Files", "Web Pages", "Downloads", "Search Engines", and "Checking Bookmarks". ¨ Processes now have a priority based on which header they belong to. Thus, file saving will always grab a thread before web pages, and web pages will always have precedence over checking bookmarks. ¨ In addition, each header will only allow its children to tie up a limited number of the available threads (currently 32). For example, checking bookmarks can only use 3 threads at once. ¨ The number of available threads has been increased from 8 to 32. There is now a hidden preference (which will be brought out later) so experts can play with this. - Headers now show the progress of all their children, combined, in their status bars. They also give an indication of how long their children will take. - Process's status bars will draw in gray outline if the process doesn't have a thread yet, rather than drawing the spinny barber pole. This gives a good indication of whether you are waiting for your machine or the remote machine. From kc Wed Jan 14 12:25:25 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3.0 beta 4 is now available In-Reply-To: <199801141423.JAA12365@luomat.peak.org> References: <199801141128.DAA07831@ignem.omnigroup.com> <199801141423.JAA12365@luomat.peak.org> Message-ID: <199801142025.MAA25432@ignem.omnigroup.com> > Are the Components and Frameworks files also needed/recommended if there > is already a working installation of 3.0b3? > > I'm just not sure what is necessary to be d/l in order to get b4 to work. OmniWeb 3.0 beta 4 requires Omni Frameworks version 1998A and Omni Components version 3.0 beta 4. (I should put this on our web page.) > [ Note: I am still not seeing my own posts to OmniWeb-l... are they making > it? ] They're being filtered out for some reason, probably some header that makes the list processor think it's already processed the message (and thus thinks maybe it's a bounce or something else that it should avoid processing again). Both your messages had the Reply-To field set to omniweb-l@omnigroup.com, perhaps that's the reason? Ken From luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org Wed Jan 14 12:30:52 1998 From: luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3.0 beta 4 is now available Message-ID: <199801142030.PAA01148@luomat.peak.org> [resending to see if this one will get through] Ken Are the Components and Frameworks files also needed/recommended if there is already a working installation of 3.0b3? I'm just not sure what is necessary to be d/l in order to get b4 to work. Thanks TjL From luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org Wed Jan 14 12:31:57 1998 From: luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3.0 beta 4 is now available Message-ID: <199801142031.PAA01225@luomat.peak.org> [ resending to see if it will get through ] beta4 is now on PEAK: RHAPSODY: Cool OmniWeb folks, Thanks for posting the new beta 4. I am a little confused where you want the pieces though... I was unable to find a readme with installation hints/suggestions so I tried to set up b4 the same as b3. First, I removed all of the OmniWeb b3 files. I have decompressed the archive files (OmniWeb, OmniFrameWorks, OmniComponents) with gunzip and tar. This of course leaves me with the pkg files. In OpenStep, I would have used Package installer at this point, but since it is missing in the RDR... So I checked you .info files in the pkg folder for help and then decompressed the files in the various pkg folders. This didn't work, so I moved these pieces to a similar layout as b3 with the Omni folder and the Components, Frameworks and Application folders contained within. This did not work as well. So, please let me know how/where you all would like the components installed. Best regards, Tim PS. I am working with RDR for PC Compatibles. >From the Desk of: Tim Wesselman Compaq Computer Corp. (281) 518-3786 From kc Thu Jan 15 13:36:56 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Help installing b4, please! Message-ID: <199801152137.NAA09974@ignem.omnigroup.com> > I have decompressed the archive files (OmniWeb, OmniFrameWorks, > OmniComponents) with gunzip and tar. This of course leaves me with the > pkg files. In OpenStep, I would have used Package installer at this point, > but since it is missing in the RDR... >From the command line, use installer.sh to install the packages: installer.sh OmniFrameworks.pkg installer.sh OmniComponents.pkg installer.sh OmniWeb.pkg (Sorry, I apparently forgot to put this information on the download page. I'll do that.) Ken From Timothy.Wesselman at COMPAQ.com Thu Jan 15 15:18:02 1998 From: Timothy.Wesselman at COMPAQ.com (Wesselman, Timothy) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Help installing b4, please! -- PROXY HELP Message-ID: Ken, Thanks for the info. I am having some trouble with the proxy settings. It seems that I can only edit the values the first time I load the app and select the admin prefs. In addition, I need to specify a port address as well. I have tried to enter http://proxy.compaq.com/:8080 but this does not work. Also I found that it wont let me change the non proxied sites, too. If I try to add a new one, it just adds "com" and won't allow me to change it. I have tried this as root and my normal user. One more thing, when I try to add protocols to the proxy it only adds http... How does one go about adding ftp, etc ?? Thanks, Tim >From the Desk of: Tim Wesselman Compaq Computer Corp. (281) 518-3786 -----Original Message----- From: Ken Case [SMTP:kc@omnigroup.com] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 1998 3:37 PM To: Wesselman, Timothy Cc: omniweb-l@omnigroup.com Subject: Re: Help installing b4, please! > I have decompressed the archive files (OmniWeb, OmniFrameWorks, > OmniComponents) with gunzip and tar. This of course leaves me with the > pkg files. In OpenStep, I would have used Package installer at this point, > but since it is missing in the RDR... >From the command line, use installer.sh to install the packages: installer.sh OmniFrameworks.pkg installer.sh OmniComponents.pkg installer.sh OmniWeb.pkg (Sorry, I apparently forgot to put this information on the download page. I'll do that.) Ken From luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org Thu Jan 15 17:18:47 1998 From: luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Help installing b4, please! -- PROXY HELP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199801160118.UAA12485@luomat.peak.org> > I have tried to enter http://proxy.compaq.com/:8080 but this > does not work. Just a note, that should be: http://proxy.compaq.com:8080/ TjL From kc Thu Jan 15 17:52:19 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Help installing b4, please! -- PROXY HELP Message-ID: <199801160152.RAA16150@ignem.omnigroup.com> > It seems that I can only edit the values the first time I load the app > and select the admin prefs. Thanks for the bug report. This is a Rhapsody-specific bug (which also crops up in editing bookmark labels); we're looking into it. > In addition, I need to specify a port address as well. I have tried to > enter http://proxy.compaq.com/:8080 but this does not work. Use http://proxy.compaq.com:8080/. (This is the standard URL form for specifying alternate ports.) > Also I found that it wont let me change the non proxied sites, too. If > I try to add a new one, it just adds "com" and won't allow me to change > it. I have tried this as root and my normal user. This is another manifestation of that bug where you can only edit once during the lifetime of the application. If you quit and restart, you'll be able to edit. > One more thing, when I try to add protocols to the proxy it only adds > http... How does one go about adding ftp, etc ?? You should be able to double-click on a protocol ("http") and enter another protocol (e.g., "ftp") in its place. I'm afraid you're going to get bit by that editing bug again, though, so you'll probably have to quit and restart a few times. Do note that if you don't add any protocols, the proxy applies to all protocols. Ken From joel at amo.mit.edu Thu Jan 15 20:49:32 1998 From: joel at amo.mit.edu (Joel DeVries) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Omni Software Support Message-ID: <9801160449.AA00375@krypton> Greetings, I saw on the OmniWeb2.x page that SSL is available separately. Can you give me a clue as to where I can get it (and hopefully documentation on how to use it effectively!). Thanks in advance, -Joel _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Joel DeVries http://amo.mit.edu/~joel Graduate Student M.I.T Dept. of Physics Cambridge, MA From Timothy.Wesselman at COMPAQ.com Fri Jan 16 08:58:13 1998 From: Timothy.Wesselman at COMPAQ.com (Wesselman, Timothy) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Help installing b4, please! -- PROXY HELP Message-ID: Ken, Unfortunately, I have found that the problems go a little deeper than we previously suspected... Here is what I found: 1. I restarted and logged in as the root user to change the root's profile for the OmniWeb proxy settings. As you had mentioned, it did allow me to enter values in the ONE of the proxy fields. So, I was able to enter proxy.domain.com:port. Yet, this won't actually work because it tries to use the proxy to access the proxy since my domain and the proxy's domain differ (ie intel.developers.omnigroup.com versus proxy.omnigroup.com). 2. Before restarting again, I decided to try logging out to see if this would work around the editing bug. In fact, it does allow you to edit the proxy info by logging out and back in. One small problem though... 3. Upon logging back in without a restart, I found that although I could edit the values each time, it did not retain the changes. 4. Could this be a permissions issue, I thought? So I used AppOpener to open OmniWeb as the root user. This brought up a totally virgin set of proxy settings not matching any of the values that I previously set with the root user or the values for my current user. Nevertheless, I was able to edit ONE of these fields as well so I gave that a shot. 5. By this point, I figured that a restart would be the best thing to do. When I came back in as root, the root values were now the generic initial values again... I changed them again... 6. Then I decided to try the "Save All" to perhaps save my settings... This led to permission problems - at this time, I am using the root user and was surprised to see that I did not have permission to save my sample bookmarks or a new one I created in the english.lprog directory in OmniWeb.app or in my root user folder. But when I chose "quit", it asked me to save changes to both of these documents. I answered yes for the root user folder and it completed with complaint. Upon restart, I found that the proxy setting was finally retained correctly, but the SampleBookmarks and the new one I created were not created in my root user folder as I was led to believe before. By the way, it is the "Save Failed" dialog that I am hitting, and I definitely have space on my drive... 7. I attempted to add a new *.domain.com entry to the do not proxy area... Editing was allowed (root user). Upon restart, I found that 8. For my normal user, it seems that although I am editing the proxy value with restarts and continued logging out and in, it is not retaining any change for the initial value that I incorrectly entered proxy.compaq.com/:8080 9. BTW, one recommended interface change for the proxy setting would be to allow for different port values for the protocols in the proxy. 10. Restarted... root now is missing my most recent entry of *.domain.com in the do not proxy field. I added a new one again and changed it from "com" to "*.domain.com" ---- BTW, it is safe to assume that the base domain will be the same as the proxy's and the user's. Therefore you may want to make the add button add the base user domain instead of just com... What if it is an educational user, etc? 11. Restarted... root user login. Again, my "*.compaq.com" setting is missing from the do not proxy fields. I changed the default entry of my exact domain this time to be the desired "*.compaq.com" 12. Restarted... root user login. My changes have again been lost. Unfortunately, this renders the proxy support useless for my applications. I also logged back in as my normal user and found that the values for my proxy server have remained at the incorrect values I set the first, despite my attempts to change it. I hope that this helps you all track down the bugs. All in all you have a great application. I also use and really like the CPU monitor that you all wrote. That was one thing that I really liked about the BEOS; it had a great CPU load monitor. I am running on a P166 and I am really curious what kind of usage/load Rhapsody and the apps place on this low end system's CPU. Thanks, Tim >From the Desk of: Tim Wesselman Compaq Computer Corp. (281) 518-3786 -----Original Message----- From: Ken Case [SMTP:kc@omnigroup.com] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 1998 7:52 PM To: Wesselman, Timothy Cc: omniweb-l@ignem.omnigroup.com Subject: Re: Help installing b4, please! -- PROXY HELP > It seems that I can only edit the values the first time I load the app > and select the admin prefs. Thanks for the bug report. This is a Rhapsody-specific bug (which also crops up in editing bookmark labels); we're looking into it. > In addition, I need to specify a port address as well. I have tried to > enter http://proxy.compaq.com/:8080 but this does not work. Use http://proxy.compaq.com:8080/. (This is the standard URL form for specifying alternate ports.) > Also I found that it wont let me change the non proxied sites, too. If > I try to add a new one, it just adds "com" and won't allow me to change > it. I have tried this as root and my normal user. This is another manifestation of that bug where you can only edit once during the lifetime of the application. If you quit and restart, you'll be able to edit. > One more thing, when I try to add protocols to the proxy it only adds > http... How does one go about adding ftp, etc ?? You should be able to double-click on a protocol ("http") and enter another protocol (e.g., "ftp") in its place. I'm afraid you're going to get bit by that editing bug again, though, so you'll probably have to quit and restart a few times. Do note that if you don't add any protocols, the proxy applies to all protocols. Ken From luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org Fri Jan 16 16:15:40 1998 From: luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Help installing b4, please! -- PROXY HELP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199801170015.TAA02402@luomat.peak.org> > I am running on a P166 and I am really curious what kind of > usage/load Rhapsody and the apps place on this low end system's > CPU. Gosh, I guess my 133 is bottom of the barrel then ;-) Since I don't have access to Rhapsody this is all a guess, but: If there is a problem with editing preferences in the app, can it be done at the commandline using 'dwrite' or 'defaults write' or whatever it is in Rhapsody? TjL From flight at mathi.uni-heidelberg.DE Fri Jan 16 16:31:36 1998 From: flight at mathi.uni-heidelberg.DE (Gregor Hoffleit) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Help installing b4, please! -- PROXY HELP In-Reply-To: <199801170015.TAA02402@luomat.peak.org> References: <199801170015.TAA02402@luomat.peak.org> Message-ID: <9801170031.AA17526@mathi.uni-heidelberg.DE> You wrote: > > I am running on a P166 and I am really curious what kind of > > usage/load Rhapsody and the apps place on this low end system's > > CPU. > > Gosh, I guess my 133 is bottom of the barrel then ;-) No, not at all. It ... uhmmm... runs on my P90 system, too ;-). Gregor From luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org Sat Jan 17 18:13:47 1998 From: luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Anyone gotten OW3b4 to work under 4.1? Message-ID: <199801180213.VAA18019@luomat.peak.org> Just curious. Looks like the setup has changed since b3 so the previous hack-script won't work. I would very much like to use b4 but and stuck with 4.1... unless anyone has 4.2 and no longer wants it ;-) TjL ps -- please reply off-list. If others are interested, feel free to drop me a line From jblumel at mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Sun Jan 18 12:08:28 1998 From: jblumel at mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (John Blumel) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3b4: Open URL service and cache Message-ID: <199801182008.OAA24255@wymple.gs.net> This is possibly a more general issue involving OmniWeb's caching scheme, but, using the Open URL service, especially for viewing local ('file:' URL) documents that are under development, causes OmniWeb to demonstrate the behavior in question. If a document is loaded into OmniWeb using the Open URL service, either via the Services menu or programmatically, then modified and the Open URL service is used to reload the document, the document is not refreshed by OmniWeb -- i.e., the old version of the document is displayed from cache rather than the new updated version. The document will refresh if the Reload function is used. How and when does OmniWeb decide to update it's cache? Presumably when it expires based on the Cache settings in the Admin Preferences, although, it is not clear how, or if it's possible, to set these to disable caching. It would be nice if there were settings similar to Navigator's Check Documents Every Time, Once Per Session or Never options so that OmniWeb could be forced to check the file's last modification date/time before deciding to use the cached version or refresh it. To me at least, it would also seem reasonable for OmniWeb to not cache documents loaded via 'file:' URLs as the cost of reloading these is relatively small. Not caching local documents (or at least always checking mod date/time) would be of great benefit to HTML authors. While there are not very many HTML authoring programs for Rhapsody at this time (OmniWeb, Create and my, currently primitive, WebWriter), this application genre will likely expand greatly in the future. Since these programs generally contain functions allowing the user to preview their work in one or more browsers, it would greatly increase OmniWeb's usefullness if this could be done without requiring the author to hit the reload button. If I'm missing some way that this can currently be made to happen, without requiring specific preference settings by the user, can someone please let me know. John Blumel jblumel@omi.tulane.edu Assistant Director (504) 599-6773 Office of Medical Informatics Tulane University Medical Center From luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org Sun Jan 18 12:21:53 1998 From: luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3b4: Open URL service and cache In-Reply-To: <199801182008.OAA24255@wymple.gs.net> References: <199801182008.OAA24255@wymple.gs.net> Message-ID: <199801182021.PAA05048@luomat.peak.org> Author: John Blumel Original-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:11:06 -0800 (GMT-0800) Message-ID: <199801182008.OAA24255@wymple.gs.net> > If I'm missing some way that this can currently be made to happen, > without requiring specific preference settings by the user, can someone > please let me know. Perhaps it has changed in b4, but if you are making changes in the source via OmniWeb (View Source) there is a 'redisplay' button (at least in 2.5). I don't usually use it except for making minor changes, but it is quite handy. Also, in the Cache preferences in 2.5 there is a # of seconds in which to expire. I do not see any differenciation between local and remote files, however. I would assume setting the seconds to 0 would disable caching, but I do not know for sure. TjL From jblumel at mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Sun Jan 18 13:21:09 1998 From: jblumel at mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (John Blumel) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3b4: Open URL service and cache Message-ID: <199801182121.PAA25460@wymple.gs.net> >> If I'm missing some way that this can currently be made to happen, >> without requiring specific preference settings by the user, can someone >> please let me know. > >Perhaps it has changed in b4, but if you are making changes in the source >via OmniWeb (View Source) there is a 'redisplay' button (at least in 2.5). This was definitely there in b3 and, although I just installed b4 this morning and haven't looked at that particular feature, I expect that it's still in b4. I was, however, looking more for a way that I could do this from a separate application. Specifically, I would like to be able to programmatically control OmniWeb from my WebWriter app to get it to refresh the document from disk. The Open URL service comes close but, after the first load, you only get the updated version if you hit the Reload button in OmniWeb. >Also, in the Cache preferences in 2.5 there is a # of seconds in which to >expire. I do not see any differenciation between local and remote files, >however. I would assume setting the seconds to 0 would disable caching, >but >I do not know for sure. I tried this in v3b4, but the settings had reverted to the defaults when I closed and reopened the preferences dialog. Of course, this wouldn't be an ideal solution even if it works as it would cause network based docs to get reloaded each time as well. (BTW, is this the correct list for this question? The omniweb-dev list seemed to be devoted strictly to bundle development and not for more general issues like this.) John Blumel jblumel@omi.tulane.edu Assistant Director (504) 599-6773 Office of Medical Informatics Tulane University Medical Center From luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org Sun Jan 18 16:07:56 1998 From: luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3b4: Open URL service and cache In-Reply-To: <199801182121.PAA25460@wymple.gs.net> References: <199801182121.PAA25460@wymple.gs.net> Message-ID: <199801190007.TAA02716@luomat.peak.org> Author: John Blumel Original-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 98 15:21:09 -0600 Message-ID: <199801182121.PAA25460@wymple.gs.net> > Specifically, I would like to be able to programmatically control > OmniWeb from my WebWriter app to get it to refresh the document > from disk. Well... where are the files cached? Is it into RAM? If not, you might be able to do something where you look in the cache dir and rm -f it. > (BTW, is this the correct list for this question? The omniweb-dev list > seemed to be devoted strictly to bundle development and not for more > general issues like this.) I'm not sure. It's not _clearly_ off-topic AFAIK but there aren't a lot of developer issues discussed here. TjL From niemann at mvp.net Mon Jan 19 05:23:03 1998 From: niemann at mvp.net (Jim Niemann) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3.0 beta 4 aborts Message-ID: I download the new version of OmniWeb (3.0 beta 4) and installed it per the instructions. It does not run and I receive the following message in console.log: Jan 15 18:30:14 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/Network/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb : abrt Any help would be appreciated. From kc Mon Jan 19 11:17:18 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3b4: Open URL service and cache Message-ID: <199801191917.LAA01791@ignem.omnigroup.com> > Specifically, I would like to be able to programmatically control OmniWeb > from my WebWriter app to get it to refresh the document from disk. The problem has nothing to do with caching. The problem is that OmniWeb doesn't even look at the cache when told to open a url if that url is the one currently being displayed (it considers the operation a no-op), and unless you write a bundle you don't have access to the full OmniWeb API. We have a bug logged against this behavior (from the last time you asked about it), but no, we haven't changed it yet. You could work around this problem today by writing an OmniWeb bundle, which could provide a more rich Services or Distributed Objects API which your application could use. Or you can wait for us to solve this problem (but it might be another release or two before we get to it). > (BTW, is this the correct list for this question? The omniweb-dev list > seemed to be devoted strictly to bundle development and not for more > general issues like this.) Any API questions (such as this) are welcome on the omniweb-dev list. Ken From kc Mon Jan 19 11:19:34 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3.0 beta 4 aborts Message-ID: <199801191919.LAA01819@ignem.omnigroup.com> > I download the new version of OmniWeb (3.0 beta 4) and installed it per > the instructions. Are you installing this on the Rhapsody Developer Release, or OPENSTEP/Mach 4.2? Did you install the OmniFrameworks (1998A) and OmniComponents (3.0b4) packages? Ken From jurgen at oic.de Tue Jan 20 11:03:35 1998 From: jurgen at oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: HTTPSExtension v1.0 Package for OmniWeb 2.x (OpenStep, NEXTSTEP) Message-ID: <199801201903.UAA04669@nexus.oic.de> HTTPSExtension v1.0 Package for OmniWeb 2.x (OpenStep, NEXTSTEP) ================================================================ Juergen Moellenhoff (jm@oic.de), January 19, 1998 Description =========== This Package allows you to use https-URLs (SSL) with OmniWeb 2.x. It uses the free SSLeay-lib (Version 0.8.1) from Eric Young (eay@cryptsoft.com) and the OmniWeb (http://www.omnigroup.com/) extensible bundle architecture. The software is currently available via anonymous ftp at ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPSExtension.1.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz This software is supplied without a warranty of any kind. I am not responsible for any damage that may occur as a result of using this software. Please keep in mind that this is work in progress. Also, please bear with the incomplete nature of the package. Installation ============ To enable the HTTPS protocol, install the ./HTTPSExtension.omniweb bundle anywhere in the OmniWeb 2.x bundle path. Then, restart OmniWeb.app. The recommended location for personal installation is ~/Library/OmniComponents for system-wide installation /LocalLibrary/OmniComponents. NOTE: If you have a previous version of this bundle (https.omni), remove it before you restart OmniWeb.app. If you use a proxy server, you MUST include at least one protocol for your proxy server (http, ftp, etc. but not https) in the protocol section of the Proxy-Preferences Panel or add the "https" protocol to the NonProxiableSchemes like dwrite OmniWeb NonProxiableSchemes "(file, mailto, omniweb, rlogin, telnet, tn3270, https)" Without these "workarounds" OmniWeb wraps https calls to http!!! CONNECT-Protocol (Proxy Support for https) ========================================== To enable proxy support for https (SSL tunneling) you need another entry in the Proxy-Preferences Panel. Add a server to the "Proxy Server URL" section like this: "https:\\whatever-cache:1234\" and add the https protocol to the "Protocols" section. IMPORTANT: The https proxy MUST be the first server in the list, because the list of proxy servers is an ordered list. For example my proxy defaults look like this: OmniWeb ProxyServers "( { destinations = (oic.de); proxyURL = \"(non-proxied protocols and destinations)\"; }, {proxyURL = \"https://www-cache.oic.de:3128/\"; schemes = (https); }, {proxyURL = \"http://www-cache.oic.de:3128/\"; } )" History ======= 1.0 - Changed the Proxy-Support. If you need proxy support add the proxy server now with the Proxy-Preferences Panel of OmniWeb. - Created a Version for OmniWeb 3.x (OpenStep/Rhapsody) AND OmniWeb 2.x - The name of the bundle for OmniWeb 3.x (OpenStep/Rhapsody) is "HTTPS", for OmniWeb 2.x "HTTPSExtension". 0.9 (Beta) - Added Proxy authentication for the CONNECT-Protocol. - Fixed a bug in the Hostname resolver. Now it should be possible to use this bundle without any DNS if you use a proxy server. 0.8 (Beta) - Adapted the bundle for OmniWeb 3.x - SSLeay-lib is now located in two Frameworks (SSLCrypto, SSL) - Renamed it (sorry for that) from HTTPSExtension.omniweb to HTTPS.omniweb, because the "new" bundle is not compatible with OmniWeb2.x, it works ONLY for OmniWeb3.x. So it is easier for me to figure out which bundle you mean if you have some questions about it. 0.7 - It's now SSLeay-lib in version 0.8.1. - Supports SSLv2 and SSLv3 - Added a Preferences Panel - Added Proxy-Support (CONNECT-Protocol) (see HTTPS Preferences) - Added an Installer Package - Renamed it from https.omni to HTTPSExtension.omniweb - Fixed some bugs - Removed the source code 0.6 - Internal version 0.5a - It's now SSLeay-lib in version 0.5.2a. - Fixed a little (not important) bug. - Included the source code 0.5 - First version, which uses the SSLeay-lib in version 0.5.1b Bugs? ===== Yes, if you use a proxy server. You MUST include at least one protocol for your proxy server (http, ftp, etc. but not https) in the protocol section of the Proxy-Preferences Panel or add the "https" protocol to the NonProxiableSchemes. ATTENTION: Without any protocols, OmniWeb wraps https calls to http!! Send bug reports, suggestions or comments to the address below. Architectures ============= ALL Architectures (INTEL, MOTOROLA, HP and SUN) are supported. HP and SUN are not tested!! Warning! ======= It is illegal to use this software inside of the USA. The PKP has exclusive patent rights in the USA on all aspects of public key cryptography. Sorry, but this is not my fault. If you are interested in learning more about this, read the documentation for the SSLeay-lib package. Copyright ========= This bundle is free for commercial and non-commercial use. ToDo ==== - Client certification?? - Display an Icon when a SSL-Connection is in progress?? Source Code =========== To compile this bundle you need the SSLeay-lib in version 0.8.1 and the API (Headers) for OmniWeb 2.x. If you modify the source code, please send a copy of the modifications to me . Thank you. Thanks ====== Thanks to "Stefanie R. Herzer " "Stephen J. Perkins " "Ken Case " "Eric Young " "Tim Hudson " Contact Information =================== Juergen Moellenhoff OIC - Object Innovation Center Bochum, Germany EMail: jm@oic.de (ASCII, NEXT and MIME-Mail) From jurgen at oic.de Tue Jan 20 11:01:20 1998 From: jurgen at oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: HTTPS v1.0 Package for OmniWeb 3.x (OpenStep 4.2/Mach) Message-ID: <199801201901.UAA04534@nexus.oic.de> HTTPS v1.0 Package for OmniWeb 3.x (OpenStep 4.2/Mach) ====================================================== Juergen Moellenhoff (jm@oic.de), January 19, 1998 Description =========== This Package allows you to use https-URLs (via SSL) with OmniWeb 3.x. It uses the free SSLeay-lib (Version 0.8.1) from Eric Young (eay@cryptsoft.com) and the OmniWeb (http://www.omnigroup.com/) extensible bundle architecture. The software is currently available via anonymous ftp at ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.0.m.NIS.b.tar.gz This software is supplied without a warranty of any kind. I am not responsible for any damage that may occur as a result of using this software. Please keep in mind that this is work in progress. Also, please bear with the incomplete nature of the package. Installation ============ ATTENTION: Before you can install this Package you must install the SSL.pkg which includes two Frameworks (SSLCrypto, SSL) to /LocalLibrary/Frameworks, without these Frameworks the bundle doesn't work. To enable the HTTPS protocol, install the ./HTTPS.omniweb bundle anywhere in the OmniWeb 3.x bundle path. Then, restart OmniWeb.app. The recommended location for personal installation is ~/Library/Components for system-wide installation /LocalLibrary/Components. If you use a proxy server, you MUST include at least one protocol for your proxy server (http, ftp, etc. but not https) in the protocol section of the Proxy-Preferences Panel or add the "https" protocol to the NonProxiableSchemes like defaults write OmniWeb NonProxiableSchemes "(file, mailto, omniweb, rlogin, telnet, tn3270, https)" Without these "workarounds" OmniWeb wraps https calls to http!!! CONNECT-Protocol (Proxy Support for https) ========================================== To enable proxy support for https (SSL tunneling) you need another entry in the Proxy-Preferences Panel. Add a server to the "Proxy Server URL" section like this: "https:\\whatever-cache:1234\" and add the https protocol to the "Protocols" section. IMPORTANT: The https proxy MUST be the first server in the list, because the list of proxy servers is an ordered list. For example my proxy defaults look like this: ProxyServers = "(\n {\n destinations = (oic.de); \n proxyURL = \"(non-proxied protocols and destinations)\"; \n }, \n {proxyURL = \"https://www-cache.oic.de:3128/\"; schemes = (https); }, \n {proxyURL = \"http://www-cache.oic.de:3128/\"; }\n)"; History ======= 1.0 - Changed the Proxy-Support. If you need proxy support add the proxy server now with the Proxy-Preferences Panel of OmniWeb. - Created a Version for OmniWeb 3.x (OpenStep/Rhapsody) AND OmniWeb 2.x - The name of the bundle for OmniWeb 3.x (OpenStep/Rhapsody) is "HTTPS", for OmniWeb 2.x "HTTPSExtension". 0.9 (Beta) - Added Proxy authentication for the CONNECT-Protocol. - Fixed a bug in the Hostname resolver. Now it should be possible to use this bundle without any DNS if you use a proxy server. 0.8 (Beta) - Adapted the bundle for OmniWeb 3.x - SSLeay-lib is now located in two Frameworks (SSLCrypto, SSL) - Renamed it (sorry for that) from HTTPSExtension.omniweb to HTTPS.omniweb, because the "new" bundle is not compatible with OmniWeb2.x, it works ONLY for OmniWeb3.x. So it is easier for me to figure out which bundle you mean if you have some questions about it. 0.7 - It's now SSLeay-lib in version 0.8.1. - Supports SSLv2 and SSLv3 - Added a Preferences Panel - Added Proxy-Support (CONNECT-Protocol) (see HTTPS Preferences) - Added an Installer Package - Renamed it from https.omni to HTTPSExtension.omniweb - Fixed some bugs - Removed the source code 0.6 - Internal version 0.5a - It's now SSLeay-lib in version 0.5.2a. - Fixed a little (not important) bug. - Included the source code 0.5 - First version, which uses the SSLeay-lib in version 0.5.1b Bugs? ===== Yes, if you use a proxy server. You MUST include at least one protocol for your proxy server (http, ftp, etc. but not https) in the protocol section of the Proxy-Preferences Panel or add the "https" protocol to the NonProxiableSchemes. ATTENTION: Without any protocols, OmniWeb wraps https calls to http!! Send bug reports, suggestions or comments to the address below. Architectures ============= ALL Architectures (INTEL, MOTOROLA and SUN) are supported. SUN are not tested!! Warning! ======= It is illegal to use this software inside of the USA. The PKP has exclusive patent rights in the USA on all aspects of public key cryptography. Sorry, but this is not my fault. If you are interested in learning more about this, read the documentation for the SSLeay-lib package. Copyright ========= This bundle is free for commercial and non-commercial use. ToDo ==== - Client certification?? - Display an Icon when a SSL-Connection is in progress?? Source Code =========== To compile this bundle you need the SSLeay-lib in version 0.8.1 and the API (Headers) for OmniWeb 3.x. If you modify the source code, please send a copy of the modifications to me . Thank you. Thanks ====== Thanks to "Stefanie R. Herzer " "Stephen J. Perkins " "Ken Case " "Eric Young " "Tim Hudson " Contact Information =================== Juergen Moellenhoff OIC - Object Innovation Center Bochum, Germany EMail: jm@oic.de (ASCII, NEXT and MIME-Mail) From jurgen at oic.de Tue Jan 20 11:06:09 1998 From: jurgen at oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: HTTPS v1.0 Package for OmniWeb 3.x (Rhapsody) Message-ID: <199801201906.UAA04692@nexus.oic.de> HTTPS v1.0 Package for OmniWeb 3.x (Rhapsody) =============================================== Juergen Moellenhoff (jm@oic.de), January 19, 1998 Description =========== This Package allows you to use https-URLs (via SSL) with OmniWeb 3.x. It uses the free SSLeay-lib (Version 0.8.1) from Eric Young (eay@cryptsoft.com) and the OmniWeb (http://www.omnigroup.com/) extensible bundle architecture. The software is currently available via anonymous ftp at ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/incoming/HTTPS.1.0.m.PI.tar.gz and later ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/www/libs/HTTPS.1.0.m.PI.tar.gz This software is supplied without a warranty of any kind. I am not responsible for any damage that may occur as a result of using this software. Please keep in mind that this is work in progress. Also, please bear with the incomplete nature of the package. Installation ============ Use "installer.sh" to install the Packages. ATTENTION: Before you can install this Package you must install the SSL.pkg which includes two Frameworks (SSLCrypto, SSL) to /LocalLibrary/Frameworks, without these Frameworks the bundle doesn't work. To enable the HTTPS protocol, install the ./HTTPS.omniweb bundle anywhere in the OmniWeb 3.x bundle path. Then, restart OmniWeb.app. The recommended location for personal installation is ~/Library/Components for system-wide installation /LocalLibrary/Components. If you use a proxy server, you MUST include at least one protocol for your proxy server (http, ftp, etc. but not https) in the protocol section of the Proxy-Preferences Panel or add the "https" protocol to the NonProxiableSchemes like defaults write OmniWeb NonProxiableSchemes "(file, mailto, omniweb, rlogin, telnet, tn3270, https)" Without these "workarounds" OmniWeb wraps https calls to http!!! CONNECT-Protocol (Proxy Support for https) ========================================== To enable proxy support for https (SSL tunneling) you need another entry in the Proxy-Preferences Panel. Add a server to the "Proxy Server URL" section like this: "https:\\whatever-cache:1234\" and add the https protocol to the "Protocols" section. IMPORTANT: The https proxy MUST be the first server in the list, because the list of proxy servers is an ordered list. For example my proxy defaults look like this: ProxyServers = "(\n {\n destinations = (oic.de); \n proxyURL = \"(non-proxied protocols and destinations)\"; \n }, \n {proxyURL = \"https://www-cache.oic.de:3128/\"; schemes = (https); }, \n {proxyURL = \"http://www-cache.oic.de: 3128/\"; }\n)"; History ======= 1.0 - Changed the Proxy-Support. If you need proxy support add the proxy server now with the Proxy-Preferences Panel of OmniWeb. - Created a Version for OmniWeb 3.x (OpenStep/Rhapsody) AND OmniWeb 2.x - The name of the bundle for OmniWeb 3.x (OpenStep/Rhapsody) is "HTTPS", for OmniWeb 2.x "HTTPSExtension". 0.9 (Beta) - Added Proxy authentication for the CONNECT-Protocol. - Fixed a bug in the Hostname resolver. Now it should be possible to use this bundle without any DNS if you use a proxy server. 0.8 (Beta) - Adapted the bundle for OmniWeb 3.x - SSLeay-lib is now located in two Frameworks (SSLCrypto, SSL) - Renamed it (sorry for that) from HTTPSExtension.omniweb to HTTPS.omniweb, because the "new" bundle is not compatible with OmniWeb2.x, it works ONLY for OmniWeb3.x. So it is easier for me to figure out which bundle you mean if you have some questions about it. 0.7 - It's now SSLeay-lib in version 0.8.1. - Supports SSLv2 and SSLv3 - Added a Preferences Panel - Added Proxy-Support (CONNECT-Protocol) (see HTTPS Preferences) - Added an Installer Package - Renamed it from https.omni to HTTPSExtension.omniweb - Fixed some bugs - Removed the source code 0.6 - Internal version 0.5a - It's now SSLeay-lib in version 0.5.2a. - Fixed a little (not important) bug. - Included the source code 0.5 - First version, which uses the SSLeay-lib in version 0.5.1b Bugs? ===== Yes, if you use a proxy server. You MUST include at least one protocol for your proxy server (http, ftp, etc. but not https) in the protocol section of the Proxy-Preferences Panel or add the "https" protocol to the NonProxiableSchemes. ATTENTION: Without any protocols, OmniWeb wraps https calls to http!! Send bug reports, suggestions or comments to the address below. Architectures ============= ALL Architectures are supported. Warning! ======= It is illegal to use this software inside of the USA. The PKP has exclusive patent rights in the USA on all aspects of public key cryptography. Sorry, but this is not my fault. If you are interested in learning more about this, read the documentation for the SSLeay-lib package. Copyright ========= This bundle is free for commercial and non-commercial use. ToDo ==== - Client certification?? - Display an Icon when a SSL-Connection is in progress?? Source Code =========== To compile this bundle you need the SSLeay-lib in version 0.8.1 and the API (Headers) for OmniWeb 3.x. If you modify the source code, please send a copy of the modifications to me . Thank you. Thanks ====== Thanks to "Stefanie R. Herzer " "Stephen J. Perkins " "Ken Case " "Eric Young " "Tim Hudson " Contact Information =================== Juergen Moellenhoff OIC - Object Innovation Center Bochum, Germany EMail: jm@oic.de (ASCII, NEXT and MIME-Mail) From jblumel at gs.net Sat Jan 24 11:28:18 1998 From: jblumel at gs.net (John Blumel) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3b4: ALINK display Message-ID: <199801241928.NAA25976@wymple.gs.net> >From the OmniWeb v3b4 release notes: - http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ReleaseNotes.html We now highlight the selected anchor with a dashed box (like IE), and use the 'active anchor color' only on links that are actively being fetched (like IE and Netscape). This fixes the annoying bug where clever HTML authors set the active anchor color to be the background color, so as you would select anchors (via right-click or whatever) they'd disappear. >From the HTML 3.2 Reference Specification: - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html32.html#body alink Specifies the highlight color used to stroke the text for hypertext links at the moment the user clicks on the link. It would seem from the W3C document quoted above that the intended purpose of the ALINK color is to provide some sort of transitory feedback to the user. Based on this, the OmniWeb behavior of highlighting with the ALINK color until the new document is displayed would seem to be incorrect. The spec would seem to indicate that the link should return to the LINK color shortly after the click ends. I would like to suggest that OmniWeb's behavior be changed to more closely follow what, to me at least, seems to be the intention os the spec. Setting ALINK to the same value as BGCOLOR is a useful mechanism for providing 'tactile' feedback to the user as they select a link and closely approximates the effect of clicking on a button. Highlighting the selected anchor while the page loads is a nice feature, although, it would perhaps be unnecessary if the ALINK highlighting were changed as suggested. John Blumel jblumel@omi.tulane.edu Assistant Director (504) 599-6773 Office of Medical Informatics Tulane University Medical Center From cortesr at alleg.edu Sat Jan 24 16:39:16 1998 From: cortesr at alleg.edu (Ricardo D. Cortes) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3 Beta 4 Message-ID: <199801250036.QAA24660@ignem.omnigroup.com> Hi: I am having problems running OmniWeb 3 beta 4 for OPENSTEP Mach. I downloaded the .tar.gz files (components, frameworks, and OmniWeb). All the tarred and gzipped files opened fine using `guntar xzpf`. I installed all the respective packages using /NextAdmin/Installer.app and they installed fine. The problem is that when I launch OmniWeb.app, it starts loading the default page (www.alleg.edu) and then exits. I looked in /usr/adm/messages and nothing was written there. I looked in the console and got this: Jan 24 18:43:03 OmniWeb[390] Thread checking enabled for [NSView lockFocus]. This should be disabled in production code. *** Assertions are ON *** which seems like nothing. Can anyone help? Here are some things to note: Hardware: Sun SPARCstation 5 OS: OPENSTEP Mach 4.2 Thanks, Ricardo From cortesr at alleg.edu Sat Jan 24 16:53:27 1998 From: cortesr at alleg.edu (Ricardo D. Cortes) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: More on OmniWeb 3 Beta 4 Message-ID: <199801250050.QAA24819@ignem.omnigroup.com> Hi, I just ran OmniWeb 3 Beta 4 using gdb this time (Don't ask me why I did not do this before!) and got this error: Program generated(1): Memory access exception on address 0x77daba (unknown error). 0x3001cf5c in SHA1Transform () So add this error to my last email. Hope this helps those that can help me! Ricardo From kc Sat Jan 24 18:03:46 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3 Beta 4 Message-ID: <199801250204.SAA25555@ignem.omnigroup.com> Apparently OmniWeb 3 beta 4 (actually, OmniFrameworks 1998A) crash on SPARC due to an unaligned data access. We'll fix this in the next release. Ken From jblumel at mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Sun Jan 25 08:22:47 1998 From: jblumel at mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (John Blumel) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3b4: ALINK display Message-ID: <199801251622.KAA13558@wymple.gs.net> Sorry if this is a duplicate posting, but I sent it originally using the wrong account (not the one I'm subscribed through) and wasn't sure if it was distributed or not. ________________________________________________________________ >From the OmniWeb v3b4 release notes: - http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ReleaseNotes.html We now highlight the selected anchor with a dashed box (like IE), and use the 'active anchor color' only on links that are actively being fetched (like IE and Netscape). This fixes the annoying bug where clever HTML authors set the active anchor color to be the background color, so as you would select anchors (via right-click or whatever) they'd disappear. >From the HTML 3.2 Reference Specification: - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html32.html#body alink Specifies the highlight color used to stroke the text for hypertext links at the moment the user clicks on the link. It would seem from the W3C document quoted above that the intended purpose of the ALINK color is to provide some sort of transitory feedback to the user. Based on this, the OmniWeb behavior of highlighting with the ALINK color until the new document is displayed would seem to be incorrect. The spec would seem to indicate that the link should return to the LINK color shortly after the click ends. I would like to suggest that OmniWeb's behavior be changed to more closely follow what, to me at least, seems to be the intention os the spec. Setting ALINK to the same value as BGCOLOR is a useful mechanism for providing 'tactile' feedback to the user as they select a link and closely approximates the effect of clicking on a button. Highlighting the selected anchor while the page loads is a nice feature, although, it would perhaps be unnecessary if the ALINK highlighting were changed as suggested. John Blumel jblumel@omi.tulane.edu Assistant Director (504) 599-6773 Office of Medical Informatics Tulane University Medical Center From kc Sun Jan 25 11:17:16 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3b4: ALINK display Message-ID: <199801251917.LAA01509@ignem.omnigroup.com> > Highlighting the selected anchor while the page loads is a nice feature, > although, it would perhaps be unnecessary if the ALINK highlighting were > changed as suggested. Thanks for pointing out the HTML 3.2 information on ALINK highlighting. Our support for ALINK predates the standard, and I guess we never reviewed our support for it when it finally made it into the standard. We'll still need to highlight anchors with the dashed box so that those using keyboard navigation to select links have a useful indication of which link is currently selected. Ken From martin at rat.se Mon Jan 26 03:58:18 1998 From: martin at rat.se (Martin Wennerberg) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: HTTPS problems Message-ID: <199801261158.MAA03220@baldwin.rat.se> Hi I have a problem with submitting forms using https on OpenStep for mach 4.2. I can view secure pages, but when I try entering passwords the servers don't recognize my entries as valid. It worked in 2.x and it works in Netscape and IE. I've installed the new HTTPS bundles in the default installation path and they seem to be loaded. I'm not using a Proxie server. I've tried two different HTTPS sites. Here's a few lines from the console: Jan 26 12:53:07 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read finished A Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL connection to https://online2.matteus.se/cgi-bin/depa Jan 26 12:53:17 HTTPSProcessor->URL: [{ __self__ = ""; compositeString = "https://online2.matteus.se/cgi-bin/depa"; netLocation = online2.matteus.se; path = "cgi-bin/depa"; scheme = https; }] Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:before SSL initalisation Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv2/v3 write client hello A Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server hello A Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server certificate A Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server done A Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 write client key exchange A Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 write change cipher spec A Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 write finished A Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 flush data Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read finished A Thanks for any help on this. I don't like having to go to a IE4 machine to do my HTTPS tasks. Martin Wennerberg ____________________________________________________ Research & Trade AB Phone: + 46 - 8 - 21 17 50 Fax: + 46 - 8 - 24 54 11 Email: martin@rat.se [MIME & NeXTmail supported] Snailmail: Box 7742, S-103 95 Stockholm, SWEDEN Visiting: Kungsgatan 33 From bill at clark.net Tue Jan 27 11:19:02 1998 From: bill at clark.net (Bill Harrison) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: year 2000 Message-ID: <199801271919.OAA09316@shell.clark.net> I'm looking for year 2000 compliance statements for the following products: OmniImage Omni PDF OmniWeb I would appreciate if someone would tell me where I might locate these. Thanks. From luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org Tue Jan 27 11:29:15 1998 From: luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Automatic checking of bookmarks Message-ID: <199801271929.OAA20735@luomat.peak.org> Does anyone else have problems with the automatic checking of bookmarks? Mine never seems to check them unless I change the 'By Default' (actually, I don't have to change it... just pop the popup panel and away it goes). I'm just wondering if there is something I've missed. I've got them set to 7 days.... but they just all updated and there are tons of changes.... TjL From wjs Tue Jan 27 16:51:34 1998 From: wjs (William Shipley) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: year 2000 In-Reply-To: <199801271919.OAA09316@shell.clark.net> References: <199801271919.OAA09316@shell.clark.net> Message-ID: <199801280051.QAA00477@ignem.omnigroup.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 581 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/omniweb-l/attachments/19980127/01c4555a/attachment.bin From martin at rat.se Mon Feb 2 03:39:08 1998 From: martin at rat.se (Martin Wennerberg) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Again: HTTPS problems In-Reply-To: <199801261158.MAA03220@baldwin.rat.se> References: <199801261158.MAA03220@baldwin.rat.se> Message-ID: <199802021138.MAA22820@baldwin.rat.se> Hi, I'm still having problems with the HTTPS bundle. Has anyone successfully used this on OpenStep 4.2 and OmniWeb 3.0b4? > I have a problem with submitting forms using https on > OpenStep for mach 4.2. I can view secure pages, but when > I try entering passwords the servers don't recognize my > entries as valid. It worked in 2.x and it works in > Netscape and IE. > > I've installed the new HTTPS bundles in the default > installation path and they seem to be loaded. I'm not > using a Proxie server. I've tried two different HTTPS > sites. > > Here's a few lines from the console: > >Jan 26 12:53:07 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read finished A >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL connection to https://online2.matteus.se/cgi-bin/depa >Jan 26 12:53:17 HTTPSProcessor->URL: [{ > __self__ = ""; > compositeString = "https://online2.matteus.se/cgi-bin/depa"; > netLocation = online2.matteus.se; > path = "cgi-bin/depa"; > scheme = https; >}] >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:before SSL initalisation >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv2/v3 write client hello A >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server hello A >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server certificate A >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server done A >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 write client key exchange A >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 write change cipher spec A >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 write finished A >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 flush data >Jan 26 12:53:17 SSL_connect:SSLv3 read finished A > > Thanks for any help on this. I don't like having to go > to a IE4 machine to do my HTTPS tasks. Martin Wennerberg ____________________________________________________ Research & Trade AB Phone: + 46 - 8 - 21 17 50 Fax: + 46 - 8 - 24 54 11 Email: martin@rat.se [MIME & NeXTmail supported] Snailmail: Box 7742, S-103 95 Stockholm, SWEDEN Visiting: Kungsgatan 33 From kc Mon Feb 2 08:46:05 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Problems with invalid passwords Message-ID: <199802021646.IAA24847@ignem.omnigroup.com> > I have a problem with submitting forms using https on > OpenStep for mach 4.2. I can view secure pages, but when > I try entering passwords the servers don't recognize my > entries as valid. We've identified a bug where values entered into password fields are ignored unless you click on another text field afterwards (before clicking on the submit button). Could this be what you're encountering? (This doesn't sound like it's related to HTTPS.) 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From jbryan at discmakers.com Fri Feb 6 07:50:22 1998 From: jbryan at discmakers.com (Joel Bryan) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: NeXT Step mail Message-ID: <34DB313D.2A8F@discmakers.com> I would like to know if there is a product that would allow me to receive email on a NeXT machine from MS Exchange. I can't seem to get the mail app in NeXT to work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Joel Bryan (609)661-3447 Disc Makers From dmank at pscwa.psca.com Fri Feb 6 11:01:28 1998 From: dmank at pscwa.psca.com (David Mank) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: Download OmniWeb 3 Message-ID: <9802061901.AA10148@pscwa.psca.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is this a format problem you're getting? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Otto Gygax, System Administrator/Instructor Oregon State University Electrical and Computer Engineering Internet E-mail: otto@ece.orst.edu (NeXTMail/MIME) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 840 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/omniweb-l/attachments/19980206/f66234d6/attachment.bin From gerti at bitart.com Sat Feb 7 17:18:12 1998 From: gerti at bitart.com (Gerd Knops) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:20 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 2.7-beta-3 weirdness with Apache site Message-ID: <19980208011813.1366.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Hi, I am using OmniWeb 2.7-beta-3. All the sudden when I open either http://www.apache.org or http://perl.apache.org It opens in an Edit window instead of in OmniWeb. I reinstalled OmniWeb, blew away all defaults, but still the same. Anyone seing the same? Gerd From luomat at peak.org Sat Feb 7 19:32:31 1998 From: luomat at peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 2.7-beta-3 weirdness with Apache site In-Reply-To: <19980208011813.1366.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> References: <19980208011813.1366.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Message-ID: <199802080332.WAA01795@luomat.peak.org> Author: Gerd Knops Original-Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:19:24 -0800 (GMT-0800) Message-ID: <19980208011813.1366.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> > I am using OmniWeb 2.7-beta-3. > > Anyone seing the same? Yup, same with 2.5.. Bizarre... TjL From mike at tela.com Mon Feb 9 05:51:02 1998 From: mike at tela.com (Mike Selner) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 2.7-beta-3 weirdness with Apache site In-Reply-To: <19980208011813.1366.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> from "Gerd Knops" at Feb 7, 98 05:19:56 pm Message-ID: <199802091351.HAA08909@home.telepool.com> > > Hi, > > I am using OmniWeb 2.7-beta-3. > > All the sudden when I open either > > http://www.apache.org > or > http://perl.apache.org > > It opens in an Edit window instead of in OmniWeb. > > I reinstalled OmniWeb, blew away all defaults, but still the same. > > Anyone seing the same? > > Gerd > I am seeing the same with ow 2.5. Works OK with ow 1.0. I suspect it has to do with the mime-headers sent by their server. They are running apache 1.3b4. Telnet to port 80 and type GET / HTTP/1.0 (return return) to see the headers. You can also use lynx with the -dump -mime_headers option. Not sure how to fix it. Hopefully Omnigroup has an answer. -- Mike Selner 612-489-4340 Tela, Inc mike@tela.com Internet Services and Consulting www.tela.com From kc Mon Feb 9 09:18:28 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 2.7-beta-3 weirdness with Apache site Message-ID: <199802091718.JAA11352@ignem.omnigroup.com> > All the sudden when I open either > > http://www.apache.org > or > http://perl.apache.org > > It opens in an Edit window instead of in OmniWeb. OmniWeb isn't ignoring the empty "Content-encoding: " header the way they apparently expect it to, and ends up passing the file off to the Workspace to decode and open. (I haven't looked in the spec to see whether an empty header is legal or not--but whether or not it's legal we don't want OmniWeb to act on it the way it is now.) We've fixed the bug for OmniWeb 3.0 beta 5, and I expect we'll be building 2.5.1 and 2.7 beta 4 releases soon to fix the problem for those of you still using NEXTSTEP. Ken From luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org Mon Feb 9 10:02:03 1998 From: luomat+omniweb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 2.7-beta-3 weirdness with Apache site In-Reply-To: <199802091718.JAA11352@ignem.omnigroup.com> References: <199802091718.JAA11352@ignem.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <199802091802.NAA15000@luomat.peak.org> Author: Ken Case Original-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:19:51 -0800 (GMT-0800) Message-ID: <199802091718.JAA11352@ignem.omnigroup.com> > We've fixed the bug for OmniWeb 3.0 beta 5, and I expect we'll be building > 2.5.1 and 2.7 beta 4 releases soon to fix the problem for those of you > still using NEXTSTEP. Thanks Ken. I'm stuck with 4.1 until someone decided they don't need their 'prelude to rhapsody' CD, so I'm using 2.5 myself, and I use Apache and like to visit their webpage. TjL From atrost at mail.trost-group.com Mon Feb 9 10:47:03 1998 From: atrost at mail.trost-group.com (Andreas Trost) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Installation problems Message-ID: <9802091844.AA04962@mail.trost-group.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1904 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/omniweb-l/attachments/19980209/ed5fad98/attachment.bin From gerti at bitart.com Mon Feb 9 16:42:00 1998 From: gerti at bitart.com (Gerd Knops) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 2.7-beta-3 weirdness with Apache site In-Reply-To: <199802091718.JAA11352@ignem.omnigroup.com> References: <199802091718.JAA11352@ignem.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <19980210004201.2897.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Ken Case wrote: > > All the sudden when I open either > > > > > or > > > > > It opens in an Edit window instead of in OmniWeb. > > OmniWeb isn't ignoring the empty "Content-encoding: " header the way they > apparently expect it to, and ends up passing the file off to the Workspace > to decode and open. (I haven't looked in the spec to see whether an empty > header is legal or not--but whether or not it's legal we don't want OmniWeb > to act on it the way it is now.) > > We've fixed the bug for OmniWeb 3.0 beta 5, and I expect we'll be building > 2.5.1 and 2.7 beta 4 releases soon to fix the problem for those of you > still using NEXTSTEP. > Well, I emailed apache.org about it, and they say: 'Thanks for the note, this is apparently a bug in the current CVS tree for Apache and will hopefully be fixed soon.' Gerd From luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org Wed Feb 11 19:54:13 1998 From: luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: PrintExtensions bundle version 1.2 In-Reply-To: <9703112223.AA03175@tequila.gects.ge.com> References: <9703112223.AA03175@tequila.gects.ge.com> Message-ID: <199802120354.WAA04626@luomat.peak.org> Where are the strings defined for PrintExtensions? I mean the various %X strings where it allows you to set things.... I'm trying to figure out what kinds of information I get (ie can it print out "Page 1 of 5" rather than just "Page 1" and if so how) Thanks TjL -- "It takes real courage to be a Macintosh user; it takes real conviction; not unlike being a Christian in the days of the Romans." - Guy Kawasaki, Chief Evangelist for Apple Computer - from "Hotseat" interview with John McChesney (3/28/97) [ my birthday! ] From jamacht at pobox.com Sat Feb 14 22:00:45 1998 From: jamacht at pobox.com (Jeff Macht) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Ad Filter Bundle Message-ID: <980214220045.3480AAD5H.jamacht@motive> A preliminary (0.3) version of the Ad Filter OmniWeb bundle for users of OmniWeb 3.0 (http://www.omnigroup.com) for OPENSTEP 4.2 users is available for limited distribution. A version for Rhapsody and wider distribution will be announced at a later date. The Ad Filter bundle eliminates the graphic associated with an advertisement for those URLs that match user defined strings. If a site you visit has a banner ad that annoys you or consumes much bandwidth, you can now get rid of it. Future Enhancements will include better filter string management (import/export of filter strings), regular expression support, and url /and/ content-type filtering (currently only image/gif content-type urls are supported). To obtain this version, send email to jamacht@pobox.com requesting that you be sent the Ad Filter bundle. The current version is compiled for NeXT, Intel, and SPARC platforms, but is only tested on Intel. To enable the Ad Filter bundle, copy AdFilter.omniweb to a directory on the OmniWeb bundle path, which includes ~/Library/Components or /LocalLibrary/Components. The filter includes a very limited set of default strings with which to filter advertisements, which you can add to by using the Ad Filter Preferences page, in the User section of the OmniWeb Preferences panel. The preference panel also allows the enabling or disabling operation of the bundle as a whole. Warning: Adding ".gif" or any part thereof as a filter string may significantly impair your ability to view web pages properly. Use it with care. -- Jeff Macht (jamacht@pobox.com) |"Dreams become reality when desire http://www.pobox.com/~jamacht/ | transforms them into concrete action", NeXT Mail, MIME accepted | Gus, from the film The Top of his Head. From eadubie at rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Sun Feb 15 00:10:17 1998 From: eadubie at rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric A. Dubiel) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Ad Filter Bundle Message-ID: Janet, your article on Ad filtering couldn't have been more timely... :) Please read on... --- begin forwarded text Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 23:44:05 -0800 (GMT-0800) Reply-To: jamacht@pobox.com Originator: omniweb-l@omnigroup.com Sender: omniweb-l@omnigroup.com Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Macht To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: ANNOUNCE: Ad Filter Bundle X-Comment: To unsubscribe, follow directions at http://www.omnigroup.com/MailArchive/ Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) A preliminary (0.3) version of the Ad Filter OmniWeb bundle for users of OmniWeb 3.0 (http://www.omnigroup.com) for OPENSTEP 4.2 users is available for limited distribution. A version for Rhapsody and wider distribution will be announced at a later date. The Ad Filter bundle eliminates the graphic associated with an advertisement for those URLs that match user defined strings. If a site you visit has a banner ad that annoys you or consumes much bandwidth, you can now get rid of it. Future Enhancements will include better filter string management (import/export of filter strings), regular expression support, and url /and/ content-type filtering (currently only image/gif content-type urls are supported). To obtain this version, send email to jamacht@pobox.com requesting that you be sent the Ad Filter bundle. The current version is compiled for NeXT, Intel, and SPARC platforms, but is only tested on Intel. To enable the Ad Filter bundle, copy AdFilter.omniweb to a directory on the OmniWeb bundle path, which includes ~/Library/Components or /LocalLibrary/Components. The filter includes a very limited set of default strings with which to filter advertisements, which you can add to by using the Ad Filter Preferences page, in the User section of the OmniWeb Preferences panel. The preference panel also allows the enabling or disabling operation of the bundle as a whole. Warning: Adding ".gif" or any part thereof as a filter string may significantly impair your ability to view web pages properly. Use it with care. -- Jeff Macht (jamacht@pobox.com) |"Dreams become reality when desire http://www.pobox.com/~jamacht/ | transforms them into concrete action", NeXT Mail, MIME accepted | Gus, from the film The Top of his Head. --- end forwarded text Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie "Technojihad!...Hear the nightmare - in the 'Square... Technojihad!...Don't expect them - to play fair... Technojihad!...Hear the angry voice of God... Shoot 'em once...Now we unleash - Technojihad..." - http://www.bitstream.net/psykosonik/JIHAD.WAV VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN From luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org Sun Feb 15 13:18:30 1998 From: luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Ad Filter Bundle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199802152118.QAA05358@luomat.peak.org> Author: "Eric A. Dubiel" Original-Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:11:15 -0800 (GMT-0800) Message-ID: > Janet, your article on Ad filtering > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,19156,00.html couldn't have > been more timely... :) I seriously wonder where they find these people to interview.... Plus, he added, the notion that people hate ads is greatly exaggerated. I sent her an email expressing my deep disgust at banner ads and revolting revolving javascript. My ISPs start page has animated GIFs or javascript which cannot be made to stop.... Result? I don't use their start page any more. TjL, still waiting for someone to want to get rid of their OS4.2 CD... -- "It takes real courage to be a Macintosh user; it takes real conviction; not unlike being a Christian in the days of the Romans." - Guy Kawasaki, Chief Evangelist for Apple Computer - from "Hotseat" interview with John McChesney (3/28/97) [ my birthday! ] From sanguish at digifix.com Sun Feb 15 20:51:59 1998 From: sanguish at digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Ad Filter Bundle In-Reply-To: <199802152118.QAA05358@luomat.peak.org> References: <199802152118.QAA05358@luomat.peak.org> Message-ID: <199802160452.XAA10380@digifix.com> Yes, this is off-topic for this specific list.. my apologies.. Timothy J Luoma wrote: > I sent her an email expressing my deep disgust at banner ads and revolting > revolving javascript. Gee, I'm sure glad I pay for Stepwise out of MY pocket (a rather substantial amount every month, not including hardware) instead of relying on selling banner ad space. :-( Keep in mind that banner ads pay for those sites. If I didn't feel VERY STRONGLY about the community, Stepwise would have been gone due to the costs long ago. If you don't want to see the ads, don't visit the site. Geez... From sanguish at digifix.com Sun Feb 15 21:01:50 1998 From: sanguish at digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Ad Filter Bundle In-Reply-To: <199802160452.XAA10380@digifix.com> References: <199802160452.XAA10380@digifix.com> Message-ID: <199802160501.AAA10452@digifix.com> About my comment Note that my comment wasn't directed at the creation of the bundle, but rather, Tim's (Lumoa's) "disgust" with banner ads. From ruediger at next12.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE Mon Feb 16 10:08:54 1998 From: ruediger at next12.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE (Ruediger Oberhage) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Ad Filter Bundle References: <199802160501.AAA10452@digifix.com> Message-ID: <9802161808.AA21375@next12.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE> > About my comment > > Note that my comment wasn't directed at the creation of the > bundle, > but rather, Tim's (Lumoa's) "disgust" with banner ads. Point taken, we'll all look at your banner(s) (at least me :-)), 'cause I don't want Stepwise to be jeopardized; to precious. (sorry, it's omniweb only by inderection.) Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: {+49|0} 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: {+49|0} 201 / 183-2120 From luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org Mon Feb 16 17:02:21 1998 From: luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Ad Filter Bundle In-Reply-To: <199802152118.QAA05358@luomat.peak.org> References: <199802152118.QAA05358@luomat.peak.org> Message-ID: <199802170102.UAA20196@luomat.peak.org> Let me clarify what I am disgusted with because I misstated it earlier > I sent her an email expressing my deep disgust at banner ads and > revolting revolving javascript ....the "and" really should have been "with" I do not mind banner ads as much as I mind the flashing javascript rotating animated GIFs which constantly barrage me at some sites.... There are several pages which I have viewed where I am trying to read an article and am being constantly distracted with some advertizement encouraging me to COME VISIT US! BUY OUR PRODUCTS FLY OUR AIRLINE! which wouldn't be bad except they flash and change about once every 2 seconds.... Viewing pages with OmniWeb (to keep somewhat ontopic) is nice because I only see the first ad, rather than being barraged by them.... and those I don't really mind. I can ignore them if I want.... the others are almost impossible to ignore (some will not even stop if you hit Netscape's Stop button and escape). I've even FOLLOWED some of them ;-) If there was a way to get financial support for PEAK through banner ads, I would put the code in tonight.... but I wouldn't use animated gifs and javanoyances. TjL -- "It takes real courage to be a Macintosh user; it takes real conviction; not unlike being a Christian in the days of the Romans." - Guy Kawasaki, Chief Evangelist for Apple Computer - from "Hotseat" interview with John McChesney (3/28/97) [ my birthday! ] From wjs Mon Feb 16 18:47:12 1998 From: wjs (William Shipley) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Ad Filter Bundle In-Reply-To: <199802170102.UAA20196@luomat.peak.org> References: <199802170102.UAA20196@luomat.peak.org> Message-ID: <199802170247.SAA29539@ignem.omnigroup.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As you can imagine, this simply is impossible with OW3 :-(. Will this bug be removed (soon :-))? David Andel (NEXTTOYOU Magazine) From kc Thu Feb 19 13:32:05 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Again: Problems with invalid passwords Message-ID: <199802192132.NAA22674@ignem.omnigroup.com> > I just encountered the unfortunate situation where there was just > one text field available. After entering lots of data the side > before, a second page with a *single* field asking for a > "transaction number" showed up. As you can imagine, this simply is > impossible with OW3 :-(. You can click on any text field, not just forms elements. (For example, you can always click on the URL entry field at the top of the window.) > Will this bug be removed (soon :-))? Yes, it's fixed in beta 5 (which is being released today). Ken From david at nexttoyou.de Thu Feb 19 13:43:14 1998 From: david at nexttoyou.de (David Andel) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Again: Problems with invalid passwords References: <199802192132.NAA22674@ignem.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Ken Case wrote: > > I just encountered the unfortunate situation where there was just > > one text field available. After entering lots of data the side > > before, a second page with a *single* field asking for a > > "transaction number" showed up. As you can imagine, this simply is > > impossible with OW3 :-(. > > You can click on any text field, not just forms elements. (For example, > you can always click on the URL entry field at the top of the window.) Sometimes solutions are easier than one would think... > > Will this bug be removed (soon :-))? > > Yes, it's fixed in beta 5 (which is being released today). Very good news. Many thanks! David Andel (NEXTTOYOU Magazine) From kc Fri Feb 20 03:34:48 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3.0 beta 5 is now available Message-ID: <199802201134.DAA05720@ignem.omnigroup.com> This is a beta release of OmniWeb. There are still bugs, it is still unoptimized, and there are still features that we haven't yet implemented. On the other hand, everyone at Omni uses OmniWeb 3 in preference to OmniWeb 2.5. See http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ for more information (including a list of download sites), or you can download the app directly from ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/. We will be updating the release notes for OmniWeb 3.0 beta 5 (at http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ReleaseNotes.html) tomorrow. We'll also be releasing OmniWeb for Windows (both for Yellow Box and for OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2). This release expires May 31, 1998. Enjoy! Ken P.S. -- OmniImage 4.0 beta 1 is also available from the ftp site, we just haven't created a web page for it yet. OmniImage 4.0 is multithreaded, displays images incrementally, and supports the same image formats as OmniWeb (e.g., animated gifs, progressive jpegs, pngs), but in this first beta release it doesn't yet support saving. From Jyrki.Wahlstedt at tisp.fi Sun Feb 22 08:03:31 1998 From: Jyrki.Wahlstedt at tisp.fi (Jyrki Wahlstedt) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: omniweb (3b5) not starting Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980222180331.009887f0@pop.eunet.fi> Hi! Has anyone experienced this: doubleclick OW (3b5) (Rhapsody/PPC), the dim icon appears at the bottom of the screen, then disappears. If I open the app directory and doubleclick the app executable, a "dead terminal" appears saying 'dyld: OmniWeb: Undefined symbols: _defaults [Process exited - exit code 67]'. If I open the resources directory and doubleclick the file Start.html, everything goes fine. This must be something simple, something is missing, but if somebody has found this out already, why should I:-? ! ! Jyrki.Wahlstedt@tisp.fi ! Home: Perustie 18 B 25 phone:+358-9-241 1704 ! 00330 Helsinki mobile: +358-40-502 0164 (int) ! Finland 040-502 0164 (kotimaa) ! ! Our life is no dream; but it ought to become one, and perhaps will. ! From Jyrki.Wahlstedt at tisp.fi Sun Feb 22 09:22:21 1998 From: Jyrki.Wahlstedt at tisp.fi (Jyrki Wahlstedt) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: re(visited): omniweb (3b5) not starting Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980222192221.00929e60@pop.eunet.fi> I retract my question humbly, this was due to my confusion. Apparently the installation process had changed the app's location to LocalApps/Network instead of LocalApps, just didn't look at the right place. ! ! Jyrki.Wahlstedt@tisp.fi ! Home: Perustie 18 B 25 phone:+358-9-241 1704 ! 00330 Helsinki mobile: +358-40-502 0164 (int) ! Finland 040-502 0164 (kotimaa) ! ! Our life is no dream; but it ought to become one, and perhaps will. ! From joel at amo.mit.edu Sun Feb 22 18:10:11 1998 From: joel at amo.mit.edu (Joel DeVries) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Fedex tracking page via OmniWeb 2.5 Message-ID: <9802230210.AA06478@helium> Hello, I just ordered a NeXT CT system, and it is being sent by Fedex. I thought I would track its progress so I looked for a tracking page. I found: http://www.fedex.com/us/tracking/ The page, however, comes out garbled. Is there something I can do to view and use this page--maybe a preference or something? Later, -Joel _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Joel DeVries http://amo.mit.edu/~joel Graduate Student M.I.T Dept. of Physics Cambridge, MA From wjs Sun Feb 22 19:15:20 1998 From: wjs (William Shipley) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Fedex tracking page via OmniWeb 2.5 In-Reply-To: <9802230210.AA06478@helium> References: <9802230210.AA06478@helium> Message-ID: <199802230315.TAA09088@ignem.omnigroup.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <199802231118.MAA00944@fafnir.object-factory.com> My newly installed OW3b5 constantly says: *** -[OFUserDefaults alloc]: selector not recognized Is this a bug or is my installation somehow screwed up? Unsurprisingly, changing defaults doesn't work anymore. Holger -- Holger Hoffstaette - holger"at"object-factory.com Object Factory GmbH - http://www.object-factory.com/ From kc Mon Feb 23 10:53:51 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb 3.0 Beta Message-ID: <199802231853.KAA19563@ignem.omnigroup.com> > Could you please advise me if OmniWeb 3.0 will run on MacX 2.0 [Installed > on a PowerMac 8500/180] OmniWeb is a Rhapsody Yellow Box application. To run it on your PowerMac 8500/180, you'll either need to install Rhapsody or install Apple's Yellow Box for MacOS, but I'm afraid neither of these options are available to the general public yet. Ken From kc Fri Mar 20 01:26:48 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb for Windows Message-ID: <199802240926.BAA04000@ignem.omnigroup.com> I've put OmniWeb (and OmniPDF and OmniImage) for Yellow Box/Windows on our ftp server at ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/Windows-YellowBox (or http://www.omnigroup.com/ftp/pub/software/Windows-YellowBox). I'll also be putting OPENSTEP/Windows versions in the ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/Windows-OPENSTEP directory soon. Feel free to try it out, and your feedback is welcome, but please don't expect a lot of support at this time. If you do need help with something, please post your question to this list, and hopefully some helpful soul will answer. (That helpful soul might possibly be me, but the primary reason we set up this list was to let OmniWeb users help each other, so please do so.) Installation, in brief: unpack the .tar.gz files (we do this under C:/Local), put the components in C:/Local/Library/Components or in OmniWeb.app/Resources or edit the Info-windows.plist file to point at their location (so OmniWeb can load the imaging components), and add C:/Local/Library/Executables (or whatever) to your PATH so Windows can find the frameworks. (Yes, we need to make this simpler. Actually, we could probably just toss everything in OmniWeb.app, but then it wouldn't be shared with OmniPDF and OmniImage.) If anyone has the time to write up some more detailed installation instructions, I'd appreciate it if you'd mail them to the list. Enjoy, Ken From will at neochem.com Wed Feb 25 09:33:48 1998 From: will at neochem.com (Colbert, William A.) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Setup question on WinNT YellowBox Message-ID: <0DF9072162ACD011BB0D00A0C90639BC0959C6@www.gbcseps.com> Greetings, I have Windows NT 4.0 SP3, with OPENSTEP Enterprise (the free preview version [4.2?]) and have downloaded OmniWeb 3.0b5 for yellow box, and am unable to get it to run. When I launch OmniWeb.exe I get the message The procedure entry point _NSAddHandler2 could not be located in the dynamic link library Foundation.dll. OmniWeb.exe is installed in d:\OmniWeb.app OmniFrameworks is installed in d:\Library\Executables OPENSTEP Enterprise is on my c: drive Do I need a more recent version of yellowbox, or is there something else I need to do to get it running. Thanks very much, William Colbert From kc Wed Feb 25 11:14:36 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Setup question on WinNT YellowBox Message-ID: <199802251914.LAA05998@ignem.omnigroup.com> > I have Windows NT 4.0 SP3, with OPENSTEP Enterprise (the free preview > version [4.2?]) and have downloaded OmniWeb 3.0b5 for yellow box, The Yellow Box version of OmniWeb requires the Yellow Box for Windows developer release (the one which includes MailViewer as a demo, and installs in the \Apple directory rather than the \NeXT directory). You should, however, be able to use the OPENSTEP Enterprise version of OmniWeb, which you can download from ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/Windows-OPENSTEP/. Ken From kc Wed Feb 25 11:39:31 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb for Windows Message-ID: <199802251939.LAA06455@ignem.omnigroup.com> > Well I have it up and running under YB, but I can't get images to display > right... What else do I need to do? That means that OmniWeb isn't finding the OmniComponents installation. You can fix this in two ways: Yyou can move each of your components into the OmniWeb.app\Resources directory, where it will definitely find them (that's the "AppWrapper" part of the search path). This is easy, but means that the components won't be shared with OmniImage (but you can always drag another copy of the .omniimage components into OmniImage directly--they're not that big). Alternatively, you can make OmniWeb find where your components are currently installed by editing Omniweb.app\Resources\Info-winnt.plist: there's a "SearchPaths" property which is the list of directories which OmniWeb will search for components. Make sure this list includes the directory where your components are installed. You might need to change the paths to be real absolute Windows paths, e.g. change "/Local/Library/Components" to "C:\Local\Library\Components". (This didn't seem to be necessary on my system--at least, I'm seeing images now, and didn't change anything--but it's definitely setting off alarm bells in my head.) Ken From bruce at evolution.com Wed Feb 25 14:31:37 1998 From: bruce at evolution.com (bruce@evolution.com) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: dwrite to debug session? Message-ID: <980225173137.214AADqH.bruce@deadlord> I want to watch headers and such which are being exchanged with each request. I friend of mine said that he thought there was a dwrite which would cause the information be written to the console, but he coudldn't remember for sure. Can someone fill me in? Thanks Bruce Fancher From david at nexttoyou.de Wed Feb 25 15:05:18 1998 From: david at nexttoyou.de (David Andel) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: dwrite to debug session? In-Reply-To: <980225173137.214AADqH.bruce@deadlord> References: <980225173137.214AADqH.bruce@deadlord> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, bruce@evolution.com wrote: > I want to watch headers and such which are being exchanged with each > request. I friend of mine said that he thought there was a dwrite which > would cause the information be written to the console, but he coudldn't > remember for sure. Can someone fill me in? For OmniWeb 3.x: Enter the following command in a Terminal window: defaults write OmniWeb DebugHTTP YES Quit and restart OmniWeb. For OmniWeb 2.x: Enter the following command in a Terminal window: dwrite OmniWeb DebugHTTP YES Quit and restart OmniWeb. David Andel (NEXTTOYOU Magazine) From kc Wed Feb 25 18:17:32 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Installing OmniWeb for RDR YellowBox Message-ID: <199802260216.SAA13845@ignem.omnigroup.com> Hussain Chinoy has kindly provided the following installation instructions for OmniWeb. Ken Installing OmniWeb for RDR YellowBox February 25, 1998 1. Create C:\Local 2. Download OmniWeb from ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/Windows-YellowBox/ and place in C:\Local 3. Use WinZip to extract OmniComponents into C:\Local; it will create C:\Library and C:\Library\Components 4. Use WinZip to extract OmniFrameworks into C:\Local; it will create C:\Library\Frameworks and C:\Library\Executables 5. Use WinZip to extract the applications into C:\Local 6. Use TextEdit.app to open C:\Local\OmniWeb.app\Resources\Info-winnt.plist and verify that SearchPaths contains a reference to where the Components are located (in this case, SearchPaths should have /Local/Library/Components) 7. Open up the System Control Panel (Start Menu -> Settings -> Control Panel, System icon) and select the Environment tab. Select the Variable "Path" and make sure that it has in it's value string C:\Local\Library\Executables and C:\Local 8. To start OmniWeb, click on C:\Local\OmniWeb.app\OmniWeb.exe From wln at tla.org Wed Feb 25 18:25:44 1998 From: wln at tla.org (W Lee Nussbaum) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: untarring OmniWeb for Windows References: <199802251939.LAA06455@ignem.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <34F4D2A8.6E54CF3C@tla.org> A warning: If you use WinZip to untar OmniWeb, the pathnames of some preferences modules are truncated and won't load until corrected (panels with longer names, such as Bookmarks, History, etc.). I haven't yet tried unpacking them with the NeXT-supplied tar. - Lee From luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org Wed Feb 25 20:05:24 1998 From: luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Installing OmniWeb for RDR YellowBox In-Reply-To: <199802260216.SAA13845@ignem.omnigroup.com> References: <199802260216.SAA13845@ignem.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <199802260405.XAA01885@luomat.peak.org> The instructions say that WinZip should be used, but Lee Nussbaum's post would indicate that WinZip shouldn't be used. TjL -- "It takes real courage to be a Macintosh user; it takes real conviction; not unlike being a Christian in the days of the Romans." - Guy Kawasaki, Chief Evangelist for Apple Computer - from "Hotseat" interview with John McChesney (3/28/97) [ my birthday! ] From luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org Wed Feb 25 20:08:56 1998 From: luomat+Lists/NeXT/OmniWeb at luomat.peak.org (Timothy J Luoma) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: www.radio.com -- OW3 work better? Message-ID: <199802260408.XAA01976@luomat.peak.org> www.radio.com refreshes to http://www.news.com/Radio/Index/0,55,,00.html using this code: But OW-2.5 refreshes to http://www.news.com/Radio/Index/0 which comes up 404.... TjL -- "It takes real courage to be a Macintosh user; it takes real conviction; not unlike being a Christian in the days of the Romans." - Guy Kawasaki, Chief Evangelist for Apple Computer - from "Hotseat" interview with John McChesney (3/28/97) [ my birthday! ] From wln at tla.org Wed Feb 25 22:21:10 1998 From: wln at tla.org (W Lee Nussbaum) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Unexpected interoperability... Message-ID: <34F509D6.D43E0D55@tla.org> Just noticed that OW-Win & Netscape4-Win can take each other's dragged bookmarks... Neat... Was this intentional? - Lee From musashi at brigadoon.com Wed Feb 25 23:10:26 1998 From: musashi at brigadoon.com (Musashi) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: installing yellowbox version of OmniWeb Message-ID: <34F5155F.8DC9E5B1@brigadoon.com> Based on information provided by your offices to Mac OS Rumors, I eagerly downloaded your yellowbox version of OmniWeb (and the other yellowbox files) from your ftp site. After downloading and decompressing each of the yellow-box files, I eagerly launched OmniWeb, expecting some sort of installation utility. There isn't one. But hey, I'm a competent guy, no problem, right? The Browser won't open and says that there is a missing *.dll file. I search for it in all the stuff I've downloaded and can't find it. Getting a little broader in my search finds the *.dll -- but with an "omni*" tag in front of the filename. So I rename it, throw it in the system folder, and try to launch again. Same error. I find the next missing and misnamed *.dll, rename it and throw it in the system folder. Again I try to relaunch the application. Now there is yet another *.dll missing. And guess what, there is nothing even close in any of the libraries to it's name. So my days of tweaking are done for now. I am eager to try the yellow box version of OmniWeb at my office, however, if you can't include any read me files, installation utilities, or even mention it on your own web site, I'll wait for a few versions, until such nicities are added. Robert Howard Seattle, WA (any reply should be directed to rhoward@ddpwa.com) From wjs Wed Feb 25 23:16:01 1998 From: wjs (William Shipley) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Unexpected interoperability... Message-ID: <199802260715.XAA16727@ignem.omnigroup.com> Well, we didn't do it intentionally, but I can see why Netscape would want to be compatible with us. -W From boerny at xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de Thu Feb 26 02:36:44 1998 From: boerny at xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de (Bernhard Scholz) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: More crashes with OW3b5 and OS4.2? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199802261036.LAA00395@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> Hello, has anybody experienced that OW3b5 crashes more often with OS4.2? I can't tell exactly, but it seems to me that it is related to amount of time a window stays open without any user intervention (crazy). This means: I load a page, wait about half an hour or so and if I use the page again, and follow a link, the connect message pops up and suddenly OW vanishes ---- without a little message in the console window. Also I twice had hangs which caused the whole system to freeze!! And I had a hang which produced kernel load of 100% (but the system was still usable) so I suspect it was caused by a low prioritized thread of OW. Anybody seen this? Therefore OW2.5 is still the most stable one. Best wishes, Bernhard. --- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1015 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/omniweb-l/attachments/19980226/721651fe/attachment.bin From z.leo at dns.net.iss.it Thu Feb 26 03:24:40 1998 From: z.leo at dns.net.iss.it (Zanitti Leo) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: OmniWeb on R. and problems with icons Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980226122440.007cf610@net.iss.it> Thanks For Error I don't installed the OmniComponents, and I started the OmniWeb. when I installed OmniComponents, but if previous the file.jpeg have a nice icon now it have an icon with a question mark the Apps OmniWeb, OmniImage works well but I don't have more the nice icon!!! How can I have again the nice icon for my files *.jpeg *.png Thanks :-) ;>) )^> %^) =^) :) >-) (:|) >:-( 8-) %^| Zanitti Leo :<( 8-> Viale Regina Elena, 299 :-] :^< I-00161 ROME :o) :-0 :-[ :=) E-Mail: z.leo@net.iss.it :<| ;-[ 8^| :^0 TEL +39 6 82.09.70.77 :*) &^) TEL +39 6 49.90.24.10 ;=J 8-! :-/ :-I :-> :0) ;=| :>) :#( 3-) 8#( :-] 8*I From david at nexttoyou.de Thu Feb 26 05:40:38 1998 From: david at nexttoyou.de (David Andel) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: More crashes with OW3b5 and OS4.2? In-Reply-To: <199802261036.LAA00395@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> References: <199802261036.LAA00395@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Bernhard Scholz wrote: > has anybody experienced that OW3b5 crashes more often with OS4.2? Absolutely not. > I can't tell exactly, but it seems to me that it is related to amount of > time a window stays open without any user intervention (crazy). This > means: I load a page, wait about half an hour or so and if I use the > page again, and follow a link, the connect message pops up and suddenly > OW vanishes ---- without a little message in the console window. I'm sure this does not occur here on my system (until now). > Also I twice had hangs which caused the whole system to freeze!! Very strange. I do not remember any version of OW where this happened. > And I had a hang which produced kernel load of 100% (but the > system was still usable) so I suspect it was caused by a low > prioritized thread of OW. Yep. I know this one -- but only together with an attempt to kill a running process, e.g. a page that does not "want" to load (my report has been submitted). I remember similar situations with earlier beta versions. OmniWeb 3.0-beta-5a seems to be much more stable concerning this. OmniWeb 3.0-beta-5a is already very cool. Unfortunately yesterday I reencountered a strange behaviour from the last beta, where the scrollbar vanishes when going back to a cached page. I'll submit it as soon as I can reproduce it. David Andel (NEXTTOYOU Magazine) From kc Thu Feb 26 05:52:43 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: installing yellowbox version of OmniWeb Message-ID: <199802261352.FAA19761@ignem.omnigroup.com> > I eagerly launched OmniWeb, expecting some sort of installation utility. > There isn't one. When I announced OmniWeb for Windows on our OmniWeb-l mailing list day before yesterday, I included some brief installation instructions. > The Browser won't open and says that there is a missing *.dll file. I > search for it in all the stuff I've downloaded and can't find it. Getting > a little broader in my search finds the *.dll -- but with an "omni*" tag > in front of the filename. So I rename it, throw it in the system folder, > and try to launch again. I take it it was looking for APPKIT.DLL, and you found OmniAppKit.dll? APPKIT.DLL is part of Apple's Yellow Box distribution, OmniAppKit.dll extends it. There are two options to running OmniWeb for Windows (we have two Windows releases): you can run it using Apple's Yellow Box for Windows (still in developer release, not available to the public), or you can run it using OPENSTEP Enterprise (a commercial product which you have to purchase from Apple). In the long term, we intend to package the Yellow Box run-times (which Apple has committed to making freely available) with OmniWeb, but since they're still in developer release we don't have that option yet. > I am eager to try the yellow box version of OmniWeb at my office, however, > if you can't include any read me files, installation utilities, or even > mention it on your own web site, I'll wait for a few versions, until such > nicities are added. We haven't mentioned OmniWeb for Windows on our own web site yet precisely because I haven't yet written up the system requirements and installation instructions. I didn't realize that the news would make it to Mac OS Rumors so quickly (I haven't even announced OmniWeb for Windows to our general OmniNews mailing list yet because I was in the process collecting feedback on the Windows installation process from people already familiar with OmniWeb on other platforms); and I'm guessing that Wil (who sent the note to Mac OS Rumors) didn't realize that I hadn't written up installation instructions as I usually do. Sorry, it's been a busy week. Ken From kc Thu Feb 26 05:59:46 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: More crashes with OW3b5 and OS4.2? Message-ID: <199802261359.FAA19875@ignem.omnigroup.com> Bernhard Scholz wrote: > has anybody experienced that OW3b5 crashes more often with OS4.2? David Andel replied: > Absolutely not. So, it sounds like OmniWeb isn't generally unstable, but does have some specific problems with pages that Bernhard visits frequently. Bernhard, have you noticed any pattern to which pages you visit before a crash? One of our new features in 3.0 beta 5 is that we restore the contents of forms from history when you return to a page, and I suspect that we might have a bug in this code (possibly only when restoring password fields, I'm not sure) but haven't had a chance to look into it yet. Ken From david at nexttoyou.de Thu Feb 26 08:38:54 1998 From: david at nexttoyou.de (David Andel) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: www.radio.com -- OW3 work better? In-Reply-To: <199802260408.XAA01976@luomat.peak.org> References: <199802260408.XAA01976@luomat.peak.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > www.radio.com refreshes to > http://www.news.com/Radio/Index/0,55,,00.html using this code: > > > > content="0;URL=http://www.news.com/Radio/Index/0,55,,00.html"> > > > > > But OW-2.5 refreshes to http://www.news.com/Radio/Index/0 which comes > up 404.... I just tried it out with OW3: -> http://www.news.com/Radio/Index/0 -> Sorry! You have tried to reach a page that doesn't exist. David Andel (NEXTTOYOU Magazine) From Jyrki.Wahlstedt at tisp.fi Sat Feb 28 11:08:28 1998 From: Jyrki.Wahlstedt at tisp.fi (Jyrki Wahlstedt) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Some pages not accessible Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980228210828.0092baf0@pop.eunet.fi> Hi! Does someone know, what might cause the following (e.g. http://www.yle.fi, the site of the Finnish Broadcasting Company, they have some replicas of for instance TV news pages): Cannot Load Address *** -[NSConcreteData subdataWithRange:]: range {location = 4; length = 2573} exceeds data length 20 ! ! Jyrki.Wahlstedt@tisp.fi ! Home: Perustie 18 B 25 phone:+358-9-241 1704 ! 00330 Helsinki mobile: +358-40-502 0164 (int) ! Finland 040-502 0164 (kotimaa) ! ! Our life is no dream; but it ought to become one, and perhaps will. ! From hussain at cafestyle.com Thu Feb 26 15:20:49 1998 From: hussain at cafestyle.com (G. Hussain Chinoy) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Installing OmniWeb for RDR YellowBox In-Reply-To: <199802260216.SAA13845@ignem.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: Hi, all, As pointed about by Ken (and a few others) WinZip truncates some filenames so that, although the apps work ok, some preferences panels don't load properly. Unfortunately, instead of using WinZip's conveniance, you'll have to: gzip -d filename.tar.gz and gnutar -xpf filename.tar for each file downloaded. (eg, replace steps 3 - 5, below). H G. Hussain Chinoy Webmonster (raar!) ___ /\__\ \/__/ net hussain@chinoy.com, hussain@pobox.com, NEXTSTEP, hussain@cafestyle.com baby web http://www.pobox.com/~hussain/ On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Ken Case wrote: > Hussain Chinoy has kindly provided the > following installation instructions for OmniWeb. > > Ken > > Installing OmniWeb for RDR YellowBox > February 25, 1998 > > 1. Create C:\Local > 2. Download OmniWeb from > ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/Windows-YellowBox/ and place in > C:\Local > 3. Use WinZip to extract OmniComponents into C:\Local; it will > create C:\Library and C:\Library\Components > 4. Use WinZip to extract OmniFrameworks into C:\Local; it will > create C:\Library\Frameworks and C:\Library\Executables > 5. Use WinZip to extract the applications into C:\Local > 6. Use TextEdit.app to open > C:\Local\OmniWeb.app\Resources\Info-winnt.plist and verify that > SearchPaths contains a reference to where the Components are located > (in this case, SearchPaths should have /Local/Library/Components) > 7. Open up the System Control Panel (Start Menu -> Settings -> > Control Panel, System icon) and select the Environment tab. Select > the Variable "Path" and make sure that it has in it's value string > C:\Local\Library\Executables and C:\Local > 8. To start OmniWeb, click on C:\Local\OmniWeb.app\OmniWeb.exe > From kc Thu Feb 26 17:22:52 1998 From: kc (Ken Case) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:32:21 2005 Subject: Installing OmniWeb for Windows, Yellow Box Message-ID: <199802270122.RAA04588@ignem.omnigroup.com> WinZip does indeed corrupt the distribution. Here are updated installation instructions, courtesy of Hussain Chinoy . Ken Installing OmniWeb for RDR YellowBox February