From jean-pierre.jurdan at skynet.be Sun Jan 6 05:56:20 2008 From: jean-pierre.jurdan at skynet.be (Jean-Pierre) Date: Sun Jan 6 05:55:52 2008 Subject: ok Message-ID: From jean-pierre.jurdan at skynet.be Sun Jan 6 05:57:20 2008 From: jean-pierre.jurdan at skynet.be (Jean-Pierre) Date: Sun Jan 6 05:56:49 2008 Subject: Message-ID: From rcobleigh at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 04:18:27 2008 From: rcobleigh at gmail.com (Rachel Cobleigh) Date: Sat Jan 12 04:18:30 2008 Subject: Leopard drawing bug: utilities drawer Message-ID: <15300b5e0801120418n48e09b6as55d83afc91b767e3@mail.gmail.com> I'm running OmniOutlinerPro 3.6 (final-v143.24) on 10.5.1 with Spaces turned on, and sometimes when I first open a file, the utilities drawer draws itself mostly way off the left upper side of the screen. The moment I click on the visible bit of the drawer, it redraws in its proper place next to the main document window. Has anyone else seen this behavior? Rachel From klzulu at yahoo.com Wed Jan 16 07:29:14 2008 From: klzulu at yahoo.com (Kate Larson) Date: Wed Jan 16 07:29:17 2008 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <300648.53473.qm@web56007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello, New to Omni & trying to use it with kinklessgtd. Having a problem syncing to my ical - got an error message. Any advice?? Also curious if I can access and use this software remotely from either an imac account at another computer or use with a touch ipod?? Want to manage calendar and lists, but not sure that I want to get into using a palm or other device. Help MOST appreciated. I have a 24 hour license and am trying to see if this will work for me. Kate --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From jlaudun at mac.com Wed Jan 16 15:02:53 2008 From: jlaudun at mac.com (John Laudun) Date: Wed Jan 16 15:02:58 2008 Subject: kinklessGTD, iCal, iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <20080116200007.5F7BFB32C5@forums.omnigroup.com> References: <20080116200007.5F7BFB32C5@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <871D9CDA-33B5-425F-9AFA-7E474A9DEBE7@mac.com> > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:29:14 -0800 (PST) > From: Kate Larson > New to Omni & trying to use it with kinklessgtd. Having a problem > syncing to my ical - got an error message. Any advice?? Kate, It's been a while since I played with Kinkless, but you might just try re-installing the scripts -- did you check out the settings at the bottom of the outline first? Second, you should know -- and maybe you do -- that Kinkless went on to become OmniFocus. I gather that Ethan Schoonover and the folks at Omni hit it off so well that he is now head of their marketing team. (It's so great to see real thinking and work pay off so well. I'm glad for both sides of that deal.) So, in some ways, "Kinkless is dead, long live Kinkless" -- it's just now OmniFocus. The bad news FOR ALL OF US is that so far as I know, and I have an iPhone and not an iPod Touch but I have to assume the software problem is the same, iCal ToDos do not sync to either device. I know I was, quite honestly, flabbergasted that when Leopard came that the only ToDos that were to be found were those in Mail. My hope is that while everyone is at MacWorld this week, the Omni folks are throwing some long, hard, stares at the Apple folks. (Alternatively, I hope they know something we don't and that this feature is coming in 10.5.2 or iPhone 1.2 software.) I bought OmniFocus, but my usage of the application really depends on it syncing with my iPhone. For now, poor OF sits pining away unused in my Applications folder. I've meant to write Apple some feedback on this, but I've already written in on AirDisk -- now that Time Capsule is out and proves it can be done -- this week, and I only have so much time to point out the obvious. john From bcovey at omnigroup.com Wed Jan 16 15:32:31 2008 From: bcovey at omnigroup.com (Brian C.) Date: Wed Jan 16 15:32:33 2008 Subject: kinklessGTD, iCal, iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <871D9CDA-33B5-425F-9AFA-7E474A9DEBE7@mac.com> References: <20080116200007.5F7BFB32C5@forums.omnigroup.com> <871D9CDA-33B5-425F-9AFA-7E474A9DEBE7@mac.com> Message-ID: <20AC7A78-9E9A-427F-83EF-1769A680D337@omnigroup.com> We're basically waiting until we can get our hands on the iPhone SDK to see how we'll proceed. We'd like to get OmniFocus on the iPhone or iPod Touch, but without the development kit, there are just too many unknowns. We should all know more 'late next month', according to the keynote yesterday. ;-) Sincerely, Brian C. Support & QA Manager Omni Group On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, John Laudun wrote: > My hope is that while everyone is at MacWorld this week, the Omni > folks are throwing some long, hard, stares at the Apple folks. > (Alternatively, I hope they know something we don't and that this > feature is coming in 10.5.2 or iPhone 1.2 software.) From jlaudun at mac.com Thu Jan 17 12:29:34 2008 From: jlaudun at mac.com (John Laudun) Date: Thu Jan 17 12:29:42 2008 Subject: syncing with iPhone/iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <20080117200008.915C9B3D95@forums.omnigroup.com> References: <20080117200008.915C9B3D95@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <972581C8-D051-400C-8414-715B97F0716B@mac.com> On Jan 17, 2008, at 14:00 , Brian wrote: > We're basically waiting until we can get our hands on the iPhone SDK > to see how we'll proceed. We'd like to get OmniFocus on the iPhone or > iPod Touch, but without the development kit, there are just too many > unknowns. Thanks, Brian. That will be great, but in all honesty it will still be something of a workaround. The brilliance of Kinkless/OmniFocus was that it synced tasks to a set of data that was itself widely synced. iCal gets you onto .Mac and onto iPods and iPhones and, now, onto Google Calendar. Now that isn't to say that I'm totally up for you folks having an eye- popping idea in mind -- a separate little widget on my iPhone screen. Just remember to keep it easily interactive so I can have the satisfaction of "checking off" things I have "gotten done". I guess I don't understand enough about iCal and its data to understand why this is so hard for Apple to get done. john From clint.macdonald at ttuhsc.edu Wed Feb 6 08:21:57 2008 From: clint.macdonald at ttuhsc.edu (Clinton MacDonald) Date: Wed Feb 6 08:43:33 2008 Subject: Status of OmniOutliner for Leopard (and zoom) Message-ID: Friends: Now that I have a new MacBook with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, the following questions have arisen: What is the status of OmniOutliner with respect to Leopard? Does everything work as before? Should we be looking forward to an update that might take advantage of new features of Leopard? And, will this new update have the zoom feature so many of us (okay, mostly me) have been asking for? Thanks! Best wishes, Clint From dmo at omnigroup.com Wed Feb 6 14:11:59 2008 From: dmo at omnigroup.com (Derek Motonaga) Date: Wed Feb 6 14:12:12 2008 Subject: OmniOutliner 3.6.4 Beta 1 Now Available Message-ID: OmniOutliner 3.6.4 beta 1 is now available and is as usual free for all 3.x owners. Sorry, no QuickLook support yet but that is coming later. This fixes the 10.5 crash we missed in the last release and the Spaces bug that switched you to OmniOutliner on an autosave. And, exciting news for some, the ?a? prefix bug is hopefully fixed with this release as well! Download page - http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/beta/ Release Notes - http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/releasenotes/ If you encounter any problems with this release, please let us know! -- Derek M. OmniOutliner Product Manager & Support Ninja The Omni Group From dmo at omnigroup.com Wed Feb 6 14:17:41 2008 From: dmo at omnigroup.com (Derek Motonaga) Date: Wed Feb 6 14:17:53 2008 Subject: Status of OmniOutliner for Leopard (and zoom) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Clint and everyone- As you probably have just seen, we released the 3.6.4 beta today which fixes all critical Leopard issues we're aware of. It does not take advantage of any new Leopard feature like QuickLook yet. Ken recently posted an update about OO on the forums and here's a copy of that: ============ Sorry for the relative quiet on our part! We use OmniOutliner heavily ourselves, and we're as eager as you are to see OmniOutliner 4. Over the past few years, we've done quite a lot of work on the OmniOutliner engine as part of the work we've done on OmniPlan and OmniFocus, and if you take a close look at those products you'll see several of the improvements we're planning to bring back to OmniOutliner: ? Different rows can have different sets of columns. (You can see this in OmniFocus if you examine rows which represent different types of items, e.g. projects vs. actions.) ? Columns can be hidden. (Both OmniPlan and OmniFocus support this.) ? Multiple windows can be opened on the same document. (OmniFocus does this.) ? Views can be filtered based on multiple criteria, and you can print your filtered view. (OmniPlan 1.5 does this.) ? Documents can have multiple saved view perspectives that you can quickly select or print. (OmniFocus does this.) ? Popup columns support "Smart Match" completion for quick keyboard input. (OmniFocus does this.) Of course, we're also giving the UI a facelift, and we're hoping to add a few other frequently-requested features as well. (Zoomed editing, anyone?) So, again, let me apologize for the relative quiet on our end! We've been busy improving things in the engine, but we still have some work to do to make those improvements available to the user. (And yes, it's also true that we do have a lot of other projects going on as well?and this month's release of the iPhone SDK probably won't help matters any! If you know any software developers that might be interested in working for a small software company in Seattle, please send them our way.) ============= If you have any further questions, just let me know! -- Derek M. OmniOutliner Product Manager & Support Ninja The Omni Group On Feb 6, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Clinton MacDonald wrote: > Friends: > > Now that I have a new MacBook with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, the > following questions have arisen: > > What is the status of OmniOutliner with respect to Leopard? Does > everything work as before? Should we be looking forward to an update > that might take advantage of new features of Leopard? And, will this > new update have the zoom feature so many of us (okay, mostly me) > have been asking for? > > Thanks! > > Best wishes, > Clint > _______________________________________________ > OmniOutliner-Users mailing list > OmniOutliner-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnioutliner-users From clint.macdonald at ttuhsc.edu Wed Feb 6 18:12:36 2008 From: clint.macdonald at ttuhsc.edu (Clinton MacDonald) Date: Wed Feb 6 18:19:22 2008 Subject: Status of OmniOutliner for Leopard (and zoom) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80F2E6B9-3DC4-4888-A9A6-044D39FB9E0B@ttuhsc.edu> Derek: Thank you for the very thorough and satisfying update! On Feb 6, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Derek Motonaga wrote: > And yes, it's also true that we do have a lot of other projects > going on as well Yes, the Omni folks have been busy lately. Keep up the good work. > and this month's release of the iPhone SDK probably won't help > matters any! I suppose that is an admission that Omni is interested in developing for the iPhone -- to which I can only say, "Hurrah!" The iPhone desperately needs an outliner, especially one that syncs back to the desktop (it needs other things as well, but an outliner can be such a multifunctional tool). Thanks! Best wishes, Clint From schakwin at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 13:18:40 2008 From: schakwin at gmail.com (Stephen Chakwin) Date: Thu Feb 7 13:18:57 2008 Subject: Status of OmniOutliner for Leopard (and zoom) Message-ID: <05423267-8172-4E3B-9028-67038CF46B9E@gmail.com> Hi Derek - Good to see from your post today that the gnomes of Omni are working hard on the outliner. I can't tell whether your reference to zoomed editing refers to overall zooming, as is the norm in many other apps, but if it does it will be quite welcome. Cloning would as well and I bet that this is another frequently requested feature. And how about tagging and perhaps hyperlinks within (or even between) outlines? And all by tomorrow please, and at no charge, and working perfectly from the moment they appear :-) Stephen From dmo at omnigroup.com Wed Feb 13 18:05:12 2008 From: dmo at omnigroup.com (Derek Motonaga) Date: Wed Feb 13 18:05:14 2008 Subject: OmniOutliner 3.6.4 Final Now Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C87F3E4-AC86-4245-A180-0A675F7D78A6@omnigroup.com> No new changes over the 3.6.4 beta 1 release. Download page - http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/download/ Release Notes - http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/releasenotes/ If you encounter any problems with this release, please let us know! -- Derek M. OmniOutliner Product Manager & Support Ninja The Omni Group From dmo at omnigroup.com Wed Feb 27 11:30:09 2008 From: dmo at omnigroup.com (Derek Motonaga) Date: Wed Feb 27 11:30:14 2008 Subject: OmniOutliner 3.6.5 Final Now Available In-Reply-To: <9C87F3E4-AC86-4245-A180-0A675F7D78A6@omnigroup.com> References: <9C87F3E4-AC86-4245-A180-0A675F7D78A6@omnigroup.com> Message-ID: 3.6.5 fixes the 10.3.9 crash we introduced with the last version. We apologize to all the 10.3.9 users out there! Download page - http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/download/ Release Notes - http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/releasenotes/ -- Derek M. OmniOutliner Product Manager & Support Ninja The Omni Group From jeff at collier.name Fri Mar 7 10:58:35 2008 From: jeff at collier.name (Jeff Collier) Date: Fri Mar 7 11:04:24 2008 Subject: attaching PDFs Message-ID: So I discovered the very cool feature of attaching files, but... It seems that if I attach the PDF to my outline, then drag the original PDF to the trash and then try to empty it while Omnioutliner is still open, the Mac OS thinks the PDF is still in use and won't delete it. Not the end of the world, but annoying. Is OmniOutliner forgetting to close a file handle? Or is this the Mac's fault? From jeff at collier.name Fri Mar 7 11:06:58 2008 From: jeff at collier.name (Jeff Collier) Date: Fri Mar 7 11:07:03 2008 Subject: Attaching files, part II Message-ID: Let's see if I understand this right. If I go through the Attach menu, the file is attached. Meaning, the file is placed inside the outline wrapper file. If I drag the file from the desktop into the outline, it is linked, and deleting the original is deleting your only copy. I can understand the reasoning--the easy action is the lightweight action. But I gotta say: when I use this feature, I want attach, not link. Classic use for me: I'm doing research for a history paper, and I PDF pages from electronic sources for a) later use; and b) backup in case the professor challenges my quotes when the web site goes away or changes. I don't want these things cluttering up my desktop, or even a folder. I already have a place for it--in my outline. Any chance of adding a modal preference? Making the Attach icon in the menu bar a drag target for files, which then get attached at the current insert point? That would be sweet... From wvh at omnigroup.com Fri Mar 7 11:23:37 2008 From: wvh at omnigroup.com (William Van Hecke) Date: Fri Mar 7 11:23:57 2008 Subject: Attaching files, part II In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jeff, Try holding the Control key while you drop a file, in order to reverse the embed/link behavior. On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:06, Jeff Collier wrote: > Let's see if I understand this right. If I go through the Attach > menu, the file is attached. Meaning, the file is placed inside the > outline wrapper file. If I drag the file from the desktop into the > outline, it is linked, and deleting the original is deleting your > only copy. > > I can understand the reasoning--the easy action is the lightweight > action. But I gotta say: when I use this feature, I want attach, not > link. Classic use for me: I'm doing research for a history paper, > and I PDF pages from electronic sources for a) later use; and b) > backup in case the professor challenges my quotes when the web site > goes away or changes. I don't want these things cluttering up my > desktop, or even a folder. I already have a place for it--in my > outline. > > Any chance of adding a modal preference? Making the Attach icon in > the menu bar a drag target for files, which then get attached at the > current insert point? That would be sweet... > > _______________________________________________ > OmniOutliner-Users mailing list > OmniOutliner-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnioutliner-users From jeffreyfort at mac.com Fri Mar 14 07:09:32 2008 From: jeffreyfort at mac.com (Jeff Fort) Date: Fri Mar 14 07:09:40 2008 Subject: OmniOutliner- pdf document insert In-Reply-To: <20080227200053.2E295E3292@forums.omnigroup.com> References: <20080227200053.2E295E3292@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: I put a pdf in an outline's comment space. It is so huge as to be useless. Anyone know how to shrink it down to the size of the rest of the outline? Is it done within OmniOutliner or do I need to do something within Preview? From desertcamel at mac.com Mon Mar 24 07:08:36 2008 From: desertcamel at mac.com (desertcamel@mac.com) Date: Mon Mar 24 07:08:42 2008 Subject: omnioutliner-users@omnigroup.com Message-ID: <4A49FD07-87C1-4FD1-B36A-DE9D4F7A7508@mac.com> Hi I'm installing my new imac which runs with Leopard. from my older G4 with 10.4.10 I have a license for Omni Outliner 3.0.1 1. can I transfer this license on my imac? 2. does this version run on Leopard? sorry, I just quickly searched the forum. I have not much time - its always quite a lot of work to transfer everything on a new mac. thanks for info silvia From dmo at omnigroup.com Mon Mar 24 12:20:45 2008 From: dmo at omnigroup.com (Derek Motonaga) Date: Mon Mar 24 12:21:32 2008 Subject: omnioutliner-users@omnigroup.com In-Reply-To: <4A49FD07-87C1-4FD1-B36A-DE9D4F7A7508@mac.com> References: <4A49FD07-87C1-4FD1-B36A-DE9D4F7A7508@mac.com> Message-ID: <1E2B4E0B-D71A-4076-A7E5-DDA39C38EDAC@omnigroup.com> Hi Silvia- Bundled licenses are not transferable between computers as per terms of the license agreement with Apple. You can however use it to purchase an upgrade to Pro ($29.95) or a family pack ($20) though our online store here: http://store.omnigroup.com which is then fully transferable. You will need to update to version 3..6.5 for Leopard compatibility but it is a free update for 3.x owners. If you have anymore questions, just let me know. -- Derek M. OmniOutliner Product Manager & Support Ninja The Omni Group On Mar 24, 2008, at 7:08 AM, desertcamel@mac.com wrote: > Hi > I'm installing my new imac which runs with Leopard. from my older G4 > with 10.4.10 I have a license for Omni Outliner 3.0.1 > 1. can I transfer this license on my imac? > 2. does this version run on Leopard? > > sorry, I just quickly searched the forum. I have not much time - its > always quite a lot of work to transfer everything on a new mac. > thanks for info > silvia > _______________________________________________ > OmniOutliner-Users mailing list > OmniOutliner-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnioutliner-users From mark12b at gmail.com Tue May 6 11:40:08 2008 From: mark12b at gmail.com (Mark Burgess) Date: Tue May 6 11:40:13 2008 Subject: get attachment tags via applescript? Message-ID: <1c8ad5650805061140t72fb0897s3ce9bdc79d0b1ed@mail.gmail.com> is it possible to work with attachment tags with applescript? i have a document where all the hyperlinks are in as tags, and i need to extract the url from them. looking at the cell containing the attachment, both the "value" and "text" properties are empty. i'm a bit mystified where the data is stored.. thanks, -- Mark From dmo at omnigroup.com Mon May 12 11:02:48 2008 From: dmo at omnigroup.com (Derek Motonaga) Date: Mon May 12 11:02:54 2008 Subject: get attachment tags via applescript? In-Reply-To: <1c8ad5650805061140t72fb0897s3ce9bdc79d0b1ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c8ad5650805061140t72fb0897s3ce9bdc79d0b1ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ADC97B8-B8F1-4D57-AF66-47ED1B7CE593@omnigroup.com> Hi Mark- Unfortunately there isn't any attachment support with AppleScript. You'll probably want to export to plain text or some other format for a file that can be parsed easier than the XML source. -Derek On May 6, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Mark Burgess wrote: > is it possible to work with attachment tags with applescript? i have a > document where all the hyperlinks are in as tags, and i need to > extract the url from them. > > looking at the cell containing the attachment, both the "value" and > "text" properties are empty. i'm a bit mystified where the data is > stored.. > > thanks, > > -- > Mark > _______________________________________________ > OmniOutliner-Users mailing list > OmniOutliner-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnioutliner-users