OmniOutliner-Users Digest, Vol 39, Issue 2

Wed Mar 7 12:09:16 PST 2007

Thanks Jan-Erik!
Thanks also to James for your reply!

My curiosity was cured in a positive way AND in Swedish! Now I know  
what this svn-animal is about!

Looks like a rather sofisticated thing when people work together. I  
will keep it "posted" in my memory...

Best
Leif

7 mar 2007 kl. 21.00 skrev omnioutliner-users-request at omnigroup.com:

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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:48:27 +0100
> From: Leif Stenudd <ls at fortus.se>
> Subject: Re: OmniOutliner-Users Digest, Vol 39, Issue 1
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> HI,
> I read this conversation and got curious.
>
> My problem is:
> a) I don't know what subversion is?
> b) I don't know how it is used in OO. Maybe it is a good feature.
> c) I don't know what SVN control is
>
> But maybe it is not this lists cup of tea to explain this to an
> ignorant?
>
> Many regards
> Leif
>
> 6 mar 2007 kl. 21.00 skrev omnioutliner-users-request at omnigroup.com:
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>>    1. Subversion (Jan Erik Mostr?m)
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>>    3. Re: Subversion (Jan Erik Mostr?m)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue,  6 Mar 2007 09:30:36 +0100
>> From: Jan Erik Mostr?m <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
>> Subject: Subversion
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>> Does OmniOUtliner play well with subversion, from my short test
>> it looks like OO creates a new "file" each time it saves and
>> thus delete everything in the package that isn't one of OOs items
>>
>> And if I understand things correctly there is no way to force OO
>> not to use a bundle but instead save to a file?
>>
>>                  jem
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 08:29:02 -0500
>> From: Curt Clifton <curt.clifton at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: Subversion
>> To: Jan Erik Mostr?m <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
>> Cc: omnioutliner-users at omnigroup.com
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>> Jan,
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2007, at 3:30 AM, Jan Erik Moström wrote:
>>
>>> Does OmniOUtliner play well with subversion, from my short test it
>>> looks like OO creates a new "file" each time it saves and thus
>>> delete everything in the package that isn't one of OOs items
>>>
>>> And if I understand things correctly there is no way to force OO
>>> not to use a bundle but instead save to a file?
>>
>> I have outlines under SVN control.  OO seems to play nice with
>> the .svn metadata.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Curt
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> Curt Clifton, Asst. Professor
>> Computer Science and Software Engineering
>> Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
>> Phone: +1.812.877.8593
>> Home: http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~clifton
>> Schedule: http://ical.mac.com/curt.clifton/Rose-Hulman
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue,  6 Mar 2007 14:48:38 +0100
>> From: Jan Erik Mostr?m <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
>> Subject: Re: Subversion
>> To: Curt Clifton <curt.clifton at mac.com>
>> Cc: omnioutliner-users at omnigroup.com
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>> Reply to Curt Clifton <curt.clifton at mac.com> 07-03-06 08:29:
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>>>
>>> I have outlines under SVN control.  OO seems to play nice with
>>> the .svn metadata.
>>
>> It does? ... yes it does !!!
>>
>> I first tested this by putting an empty folder in an OO document
>> and then save it ... and the folder disappeared. But when I
>> really try with subversion the ".svn" folder stays where it should.
>>
>> Great, thanks for telling me !!
>>
>>                  jem
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:21:54 -0800
> From: James Moore <jam at omnigroup.com>
> Subject: Re: OmniOutliner-Users Digest, Vol 39, Issue 1
> To: Leif Stenudd <ls at fortus.se>
> Cc: omnioutliner-users at omnigroup.com
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> On Mar 6, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Leif Stenudd wrote:
>
>> HI,
>> I read this conversation and got curious.
>>
>> My problem is:
>> a) I don't know what subversion is?
>> b) I don't know how it is used in OO. Maybe it is a good feature.
>> c) I don't know what SVN control is
>>
>> But maybe it is not this lists cup of tea to explain this to an
>> ignorant?
>
>
> Leif, Subversion isn't a feature of OmniOutliner. Subversion is a
> revision control system that's used to keep track of changes in files
> -- typically software source code.
>
> _The_ reference on Subversion can be read at
>
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
>
> Because we sometimes store Outliner files in our own SVN repository
> we made sure that Outliner preserves special .svn metadata folders
> that can be found inside of folders stored in SVN. Without that
> support it would be very tedious to maintain your Outliner files in
> SVN. Outliner will also preserve CVS metadata.
>
> --
> -James
>
> OmniOutliner Product Manager
> Software Test Pilot
> The Omni Group
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed,  7 Mar 2007 13:43:57 +0100
> From: Jan Erik Mostr?m <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
> Subject: Re: OmniOutliner-Users Digest, Vol 39, Issue 1
> To: Leif Stenudd <ls at fortus.se>
> Cc: omnioutliner-users at omnigroup.com
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> Reply to Leif Stenudd <ls at fortus.se> 07-03-06 21:48:
>
>> a) I don't know what subversion is?
>> b) I don't know how it is used in OO. Maybe it is a good feature.
>> c) I don't know what SVN control is
>>
>> But maybe it is not this lists cup of tea to explain this to an  
>> ignorant?
>
> Det är ett system för att hålla reda på förändringar i filer och
> även vilka filer som finns. Det (det vill säga
> versionskontrollsystem) andvänds ofta av programmerare eller
> personer som jobbar ihop på något sätt. Jag använder det privat
> för att hålla reda på nästan alla mina filer på jobbet men också
> för att jobba ihop med andra (artiklar/forskning) samt för  
> programutveckling.
>
> Fördelen med att använda ett sådant system är:
>
> +   Om du av någon anledning gör förändringar som du inte vill ha
>      så kan du snabbt gå tillbaka till en tidigare version och börja
>      om
>
> +   Du kan enkelt jobba på flera maskiner och se till att dokumenten
>      är up-to-date på alla
>
> +   Säkerhetskopiering - inte ett officiellt användningsområde
> men det
>      bra för detta också, dvs en kopia på varje maskin jag använder
>      plus servern - alla diskarna lär inte gå sönder samtidigt !!
>
> Som jag använder det så behöver jag i princip bara sätt mig vid
> en ny maskin och skriva
>
>      svn checkout svn+ssh://xxx.xxx.xxx/YY/trunk --username XXXX
> --password YYYY
>
> och vänta en stund så har jag alla mina dockument på den
> maskinen. Det finns flera tutorials etc om hur man använder
> subversion, se <http://subversion.tigris.org/> och
> <http://svnbook.red-bean.com/>. Jag har också fixat en
> mini-tutorial för de personer som jag jobbar ihop med <http:// 
> www.mostrom.pp.se/subversiontutorial>
>
>                              jem
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed,  7 Mar 2007 13:48:07 +0100
> From: Jan Erik Mostr?m <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
> Subject: Re: OmniOutliner-Users Digest, Vol 39, Issue 1
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> Reply to Jan Erik Moström <lists at mostrom.pp.se> 07-03-07 13:43:
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>
> Opps ;-)
>
> Well, Leif can read it and the rest of you can consider it as an
> exercise in Swedish ;-)
>
>                  jem
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