[OO-beta] Interference betwenn OO and German keyboard layout

[Matthias Damm]

Hej,

I am replying to a discussion from the former OO beta list.
The problem I had described there has reappeared with Tiger: The  
shortcut OO uses in its services Menu (Cmd-">") interferes with  
MacOS's standard "cycle windows" shortcut in the German localization.

I am not entirely sure why this worked before and the problem came  
back now, but IMHO OmniOutliner definitely should not use any  
shortcuts Apple uses for other purposes.

The problem can be solved by removing the keyboard equivalent from  
the Service entry's info.plist of course, but I would like to ask you  
to find a general solution!

Thanks in advance,
best

Matthias



Am 12.07.2004 um 19:03 schrieb Timothy J.Wood:

>
>   We'll need to add code to localize the shortcut added here  
> (<bug://bugs/16276>), but we will make this localizable.  If you  
> have a recommendation for what the German localization for this  
> should be, let us know (if there's some chance it would work for  
> English too, even better).
>
> -tim
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 11:02  AM, Matthias Damm wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am answering to myself since the following problem remains with  
>> SP2:
>>
>>
>>> I was no longer able to use the shortcuts Cmd-< and Shift-Cmd-<  
>>> (which are used to cycle windows in the German keyboard layout)  
>>> in MacSOUP (a newsreader). Cmd-< worked fine in any other app I  
>>> tried however.
>>>
>>> OO uses Shift-Cmd-< as a shortcut in the services menu (note: Cmd- 
>>> < did not work, not Shift-Cmd-<!). After changing the shortcut in  
>>> ~/Library/Services/OmniOutliner Professional.service/Contents/ 
>>> Info.plist everything worked fine again. I do not know why even  
>>> Cmd-< didn't work, which does not seem to be used by OO.
>>>
>>> I strongly recommend that Cmd-< and Shift-Cmd-< should not be  
>>> used as shortcuts! On the German keyboard layout they are used  
>>> for cycle windows/cycle windows backwards by default, and I think  
>>> it is quite a bad idea to use system shortcuts. I know that this  
>>> is partly Apple's fault however, since I think I remember that  
>>> there is no complete list of shortcuts used in the different  
>>> localizations, right?
>>>
>>
>> I'd like to repeat my suggestion to change the keyboard shortcut  
>> -- OmniOutliner will break an important OS functionality for users  
>> of the German (and probably other) keyboard layouts!
>>
>> Best,
>> Matthias

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