a little MORE history

Matthew Montano mmontano at direct.ca
Wed Mar 5 21:06:01 PST 2003


Whatever happened to Attain's In Control product?

OmniOutliner smells a lot like In Control, but missing a few elegant 
features on date/time entry, pop-up vs. menu vs. type aheads.

Matthew

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 07:47  PM, John Oram wrote:

> Here's a little background on MORE's tortured acquisition history and 
> state of source code. Poor and poor, to summarize.  A discussion got 
> started last year via Lawrence Lessig's comments on dead code and 
> limiting software copyrights to 10 years, after which the source would 
> become public domain.  He uses MORE as an example.
>
> http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/lessig/blog/archives/cooper.shtml
>
> Dave Winer's response:  He'd love to see MORE's source released, but 
> it's up to Symantec.  They made a bet that the software team would 
> stay together.  They lost.
>
> http://scriptingnews.userland.com/moresSource
>
> Brad Petit, the last MORE developer to leave Symantec, followed up. 
> Even if the source were available, it doesn't exactly sound portable.
>
> http://scriptingnews.userland.com/bradPettitOnMoresSource
>
> "As for Lawrence Lessig's romanticized notions of MORE ("many who 
> share my affection for this clean bit of code"), and for those who 
> think the MORE source should be placed in public domain, be 
> forewarned. Probably 99% MPW Pascal with a little C and even a bit of 
> 68k ASM for good measure. All pre-Universal Headers. Pre-PPC. Dense 
> code. Lots of Pascal language features taken full advantage of: nested 
> procedures, function parameters, etc. But you know that.
>
> It could be fun to bring MORE back from the dead, but it would take a 
> lot of digging just to get started."
>
> -John
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