OO/OG integration

Brian C. dvorak at omnigroup.com
Wed Jan 22 20:43:33 PST 2003


Erithacus-
This falls into a bit of a grey area. You should probably send a 
feature request to <omnigraffle at omnigroup.com> asking for the ability 
to export to OmniOutliner's file format. That's a simpler file format, 
and thus more likely to be implemented in Graffle than building 
knowledge of the Graffle file format into Outliner.

(In a nutshell: Text files are simpler to read/write than graphics 
files. Simpler file format means less code. Less code = A Good Thing.)

Additionally, for this to really work well, there are some obvious 
features we'd have to add to Outliner. Clones, for instance, since 
Graffle diagrams may have cycles in them, and I'm sure there are others 
that we'll only discover when we start working on this.

There's demand for feature you're requesting, but not as much as for 
some other features, and it's fairly complex to implement. By all 
means, we want to do it, but it's not on the list right now. By all 
means, though, have other Inspiration fans you know contact us if this 
is important to them.

Sincerely,

Brian C.
Support Manager
Omni Group

On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 05:54  PM, Erithacus rubecula wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>>
>>> Can you share with us what the most popular requests are?
>>
>> Image support
>> Document/File attachments
>> Customizable document headers/footers
>> Palm support
>> URL support
>> Print Selected/Checked/Unchecked
>> Hide (but don't destroy) Checked Items
>> Print the Column Headers
>> Auto-Save
>> Hide drag handles/Disclosure triangles when printing.
>>
>> Out of the roughly 1000 bugs/feature requests we have written up, 
>> these
>> are the folks that really stand out from the crowd. There's a ton more
>> that have between one and a handful of requests attached to them.
>>
> I must say that this list surprises me. No I'm not trying to advocate 
> that my request goes above the sheer numbers of others. I'm just 
> expressing my surprise. Either because i) it's exactly as you say and 
> therefore it's just a plain simple surprise, or ii) it's a feature 
> that's slipped up because it might be considered as a feature request 
> of OmniGraffle.
>
> The feature that I can't see is forwards and backwards compatability, 
> updating or whatever you might call, the ability to go from OO to OG 
> and then back again seamlessly and as frequently as you want with all 
> changes reflected in both documents. Or even (to put the dual package 
> of OO and OG on an equal footing with Inspiration) the ability to go 
> from ideas in OG and then to automatically create and outline in OO 
> (instead of having to start with OO and then go to OG). This is 
> certainly a feature that I've requested along time ago. I'm surprised 
> (given the number of folks that like Inspiration) that this is not a 
> more popular request. Could it be that I've missed something here, or 
> could it be the way the feature requests are compiled means that it 
> wouldn't show up? Worst case scenario the feature wish list of OO and 
> the separate feature list of OG don't clock this request because they 
> think respectively that it's the domain of the other application.
>
> To you other OO users who might like this - if this is a feature that 
> you also wanted to be included I guess an email request (cut paste and 
> 'ditto') might raise the profile. If I'm truly one of the few that 
> wanted this inter-operability, then I guess it's another in the list 
> of things that I'm learning new every day :-)
>
> best,
>
> Robin
>
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