From omni_groupie at unithom.com Wed Jan 27 12:20:07 2010 From: omni_groupie at unithom.com (Thom Brooks) Date: Wed Jan 27 12:25:24 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? Message-ID: You knew this question would come up... This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro for iPad. I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for approval from the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP and put it on the big screen and mouse around with it. The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad ships." No pressure :) Thank you, Thom Brooks From nic at mac.com Wed Jan 27 12:36:11 2010 From: nic at mac.com (Nic Olinsky) Date: Wed Jan 27 12:36:26 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5B398801-DE40-46BF-B714-C6A5E225CBF4@mac.com> I would buy it! On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Thom Brooks wrote: > You knew this question would come up... > > This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro for iPad. > > I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for approval from the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP and put it on the big screen and mouse around with it. > > The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad ships." > > No pressure :) > > Thank you, > > > Thom Brooks > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users From mattnl at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 12:37:45 2010 From: mattnl at gmail.com (Matthew Nish-Lapidus) Date: Wed Jan 27 12:37:47 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5b242f431001271237j107843b4oe5f3abbecf4ba91a@mail.gmail.com> I would buy that in a second. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Thom Brooks wrote: > You knew this question would come up... > > This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro for iPad. > > I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for approval from > the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP and put it > on the big screen and mouse around with it. > > The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad ships." > > No pressure ?:) > > Thank you, > > > Thom Brooks > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users > -- Matt Nish-Lapidus -- personal: mattnl@gmail.com twitter: emenel From bruce at sidlinger.com Wed Jan 27 12:42:39 2010 From: bruce at sidlinger.com (Bruce D. Sidlinger) Date: Wed Jan 27 12:42:48 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: <5b242f431001271237j107843b4oe5f3abbecf4ba91a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b242f431001271237j107843b4oe5f3abbecf4ba91a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <59E551AB-579B-4D80-9D19-32472853A081@sidlinger.com> I'd like to 3rd, 4th & 5th that motion! -Bruce On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote: > I would buy that in a second. > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Thom Brooks > wrote: >> You knew this question would come up... >> >> This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro >> for iPad. >> >> I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for >> approval from >> the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP >> and put it >> on the big screen and mouse around with it. >> >> The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad >> ships." >> >> No pressure :) >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Thom Brooks >> _______________________________________________ >> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users >> > > > > -- > Matt Nish-Lapidus > -- > personal: mattnl@gmail.com > twitter: emenel > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users From stella at stellarvisions.com Wed Jan 27 12:59:37 2010 From: stella at stellarvisions.com (Stella Gassaway) Date: Wed Jan 27 12:59:43 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? Message-ID: <265AE6E0-20B5-4CF8-820E-77E7275A7340@stellarvisions.com> us too. s --- Stella Gassaway principal stella@stellarvisions.com STELLARViSIONs : communication architects 215. 545. 7531 We design culture-driven tools? that shape how information is organized, displayed, shared, and experienced to reflect core values. [web] http://www.stellarvisions.com [twitter] http://www.twitter.com/stellarvisions From chuckbo at hinkles.us Wed Jan 27 13:00:20 2010 From: chuckbo at hinkles.us (Chuck Hinkle) Date: Wed Jan 27 13:00:25 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: <59E551AB-579B-4D80-9D19-32472853A081@sidlinger.com> References: <5b242f431001271237j107843b4oe5f3abbecf4ba91a@mail.gmail.com> <59E551AB-579B-4D80-9D19-32472853A081@sidlinger.com> Message-ID: <481C652E-C614-46AF-AF90-F2A3FB3DE47F@hinkles.us> ... and didn't Mr. Jobs say how easy it is to build applications in just two weeks? ;) On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Bruce D. Sidlinger wrote: > I'd like to 3rd, 4th & 5th that motion! > > -Bruce > > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote: > >> I would buy that in a second. >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Thom Brooks wrote: >>> You knew this question would come up... >>> >>> This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro for iPad. >>> >>> I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for approval from >>> the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP and put it >>> on the big screen and mouse around with it. >>> >>> The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad ships." >>> >>> No pressure :) >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> >>> Thom Brooks >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >>> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >>> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Nish-Lapidus >> -- >> personal: mattnl@gmail.com >> twitter: emenel >> _______________________________________________ >> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users > > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users From zaxaz at mac.com Wed Jan 27 13:05:02 2010 From: zaxaz at mac.com (Scott) Date: Wed Jan 27 13:05:06 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: <481C652E-C614-46AF-AF90-F2A3FB3DE47F@hinkles.us> References: <5b242f431001271237j107843b4oe5f3abbecf4ba91a@mail.gmail.com> <59E551AB-579B-4D80-9D19-32472853A081@sidlinger.com> <481C652E-C614-46AF-AF90-F2A3FB3DE47F@hinkles.us> Message-ID: <5E0E498C-E905-42AA-9BF3-00335B88A702@mac.com> Omnigraffle is one of my favorite tools. A iPad version would be quite a welcome compliment to my MBP version!! Scott On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Chuck Hinkle wrote: > > ... and didn't Mr. Jobs say how easy it is to build applications in just two weeks? ;) > > > > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Bruce D. Sidlinger wrote: > >> I'd like to 3rd, 4th & 5th that motion! >> >> -Bruce >> >> >> On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote: >> >>> I would buy that in a second. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Thom Brooks wrote: >>>> You knew this question would come up... >>>> >>>> This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro for iPad. >>>> >>>> I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for approval from >>>> the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP and put it >>>> on the big screen and mouse around with it. >>>> >>>> The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad ships." >>>> >>>> No pressure :) >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> >>>> Thom Brooks >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >>>> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >>>> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Nish-Lapidus >>> -- >>> personal: mattnl@gmail.com >>> twitter: emenel >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >>> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >>> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users > > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users From michael at hesta.com Wed Jan 27 12:50:46 2010 From: michael at hesta.com (Michael Styles Verruto) Date: Wed Jan 27 13:05:35 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: <5b242f431001271237j107843b4oe5f3abbecf4ba91a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b242f431001271237j107843b4oe5f3abbecf4ba91a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I already pre-ordered it - came with an OmniGraffle Tshirt hahahaha. And posted it into OmniFocus to remind me to look for it. On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote: > I would buy that in a second. > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Thom Brooks > wrote: >> You knew this question would come up... >> >> This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro >> for iPad. >> >> I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for >> approval from >> the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP >> and put it >> on the big screen and mouse around with it. >> >> The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad >> ships." >> >> No pressure :) >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Thom Brooks >> _______________________________________________ >> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users >> > > > > -- > Matt Nish-Lapidus > -- > personal: mattnl@gmail.com > twitter: emenel > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users From john at oram.com Wed Jan 27 23:25:10 2010 From: john at oram.com (John Oram) Date: Wed Jan 27 23:25:15 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: References: <5b242f431001271237j107843b4oe5f3abbecf4ba91a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I've been bugging Joel about this for, oh, 4 years now. No pressure... All you need to do is port the Newton sketch app to the iPad -- how hard can *that* be? :) -j On 2010-01-27, at 12:50 PM, Michael Styles Verruto wrote: > I already pre-ordered it - came with an OmniGraffle Tshirt hahahaha. And posted it into OmniFocus to remind me to look for it. > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote: > >> I would buy that in a second. >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Thom Brooks wrote: >>> You knew this question would come up... >>> >>> This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro for iPad. >>> >>> I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for approval from >>> the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP and put it >>> on the big screen and mouse around with it. >>> >>> The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad ships." >>> >>> No pressure :) >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> >>> Thom Brooks >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >>> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >>> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Nish-Lapidus >> -- >> personal: mattnl@gmail.com >> twitter: emenel >> _______________________________________________ >> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users > > > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users > From merbjedi at gmail.com Thu Jan 28 12:03:20 2010 From: merbjedi at gmail.com (Jacques Crocker) Date: Thu Jan 28 12:03:44 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: <20100128200006.B7C6F20AC078@forums.omnigroup.com> References: <20100128200006.B7C6F20AC078@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <92281991-22B6-4885-B3DC-D7D04066610A@gmail.com> That'd be the killer app for the iPad. Count me in On Jan 28, 2010, at 12:00 PM, omnigraffle-users-request@omnigroup.com wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:20:07 -0600 (CST) > From: Thom Brooks > Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? > To: Omnigraffle Support > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII > > You knew this question would come up... > > This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro for iPad. > > I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for approval from > the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP and put it > on the big screen and mouse around with it. > > The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad ships." > > No pressure :) > > Thank you, > > > Thom Brooks From aschechterman at gmail.com Thu Jan 28 12:15:28 2010 From: aschechterman at gmail.com (Andrew Schechterman) Date: Thu Jan 28 12:15:54 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? Message-ID: Holy Toledo. Me too! Indeed, how about a Omni-branded iPad . . . move over Steve! Andrew Schechterman PhD aschechterman@gmail.com www.Linkedin.com/in/andrewschechterman Denver, Colorado, US 1 303 886 2440 From jpage at omnigroup.com Thu Jan 28 12:18:42 2010 From: jpage at omnigroup.com (Joel Page) Date: Thu Jan 28 12:18:44 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0C64EB48-5A6E-4A04-B7A0-ADB736EAD3DD@omnigroup.com> Just to keep the mailing list in the loop: http://twitter.com/kcase/status/8300211476 "We're also looking at creating iPad adaptations of several of our other productivity apps, such as OmniGraffle." Cheers, Joel Page Product Manager, OmniGraffle The Omni Group On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Thom Brooks wrote: > You knew this question would come up... > > This is one of my top wishes for the iPad: OmniGraffle Mobile Pro for iPad. > > I sit on the couch, do a design, and send it off as a PDF for approval from the client. If it's really nitty-gritty, I move it over to my MBP and put it on the big screen and mouse around with it. > > The answer I'm hoping beyond hope for here is, "Available when iPad ships." > > No pressure :) > > Thank you, > > > Thom Brooks > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users From tburton at brahea.com Sat Jan 30 18:19:54 2010 From: tburton at brahea.com (Tom Burton) Date: Sat Jan 30 18:19:59 2010 Subject: iPad mobile version of OmniGraffle? In-Reply-To: <20100129200006.E9EC520BBC4C@forums.omnigroup.com> References: <20100129200006.E9EC520BBC4C@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: Without OmniGraffle, iPad doesn't work for me. With it, and a few other things (possibly including OmniOutliner). I can justify iPad to replace my aging MacBook Pro to supplement my Mac Pro. At that point, if OmniWeb is still not ported to the iPad, I'll have to dump it in favor of a browser that is. From niko at alum.mit.edu Sun Jan 31 00:38:17 2010 From: niko at alum.mit.edu (Niko Matsakis) Date: Sun Jan 31 00:38:26 2010 Subject: Extracting QuickLook Preview from a .graffle file Message-ID: I am writing a tool and would like to extract the Quicklook Preview (not thumbnail) from .graffle files. Since there is no public interface to extract QL Previews in general (only to run the QLPreviewPanel), I was thinking of hacking something up to extract the required image from the .graffle file directly. I see that .graffle files are gzipped plist files and that there is a key QuickLookPreview which seems to contain base64 data or something like that (at least for Omnigraffle 5 files). Can someone give me a hint of how to extract this data? It is an NSCoded version of an NSImage or something like that? thanks, Niko From wiml at omnigroup.com Mon Feb 1 10:26:12 2010 From: wiml at omnigroup.com (Wim Lewis) Date: Mon Feb 1 10:26:15 2010 Subject: Extracting QuickLook Preview from a .graffle file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 31, 2010, at 12:38 AM, Niko Matsakis wrote: > I am writing a tool and would like to extract the Quicklook Preview (not thumbnail) from .graffle files. Since there is no public interface to extract QL Previews in general (only to run the QLPreviewPanel), I was thinking of hacking something up to extract the required image from the .graffle file directly. I see that .graffle files are gzipped plist files and that there is a key QuickLookPreview which seems to contain base64 data or something like that (at least for Omnigraffle 5 files). > > Can someone give me a hint of how to extract this data? It is an NSCoded version of an NSImage or something like that? Yup, it's simply a element holding a PDF document. (For bundle-type Graffle documents, the quicklook preview image is stored in the file QuickLook/Preview.pdf --- same bytes, different place.) Some random notes: - The plist can be gzipped, bzipped, or not compressed at all (at the user's option). In either compressed case, the compression is compatible with the corresponding command-line tool. - The user can turn off the quicklook preview to save space, so don't absolutely rely on it being there. - The thumbnail is done similarly, except it's a TIFF image. - We don't want to discourage people from doing interesting things with Graffle files, but we reserve the right to change our file format at any time without notice yadda yadda yadda. :) Wim Lewis / wiml@omnigroup.com From john at oram.com Sun Feb 7 23:34:50 2010 From: john at oram.com (John Oram) Date: Sun Feb 7 23:34:54 2010 Subject: multiple layer -> multiple page PDF export Message-ID: <2C98A298-3D0A-456F-88D1-6C4950207789@oram.com> Hi- I have a OG doc with 5 layers. I'd like to export each layer as its own page in a single PDF (i.e. a 5 page PDF). I'm comparing five maps of an area covering about 9 city blocks spanning a period of 150 years. With each PDF page a specific year, one could flip between pages and the content of each year would be aligned, making it easy to compare and contrast changes. Is this possible? I believe canvases export this way, but I don't believe layers do. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious. On a slightly different note, dynamic layer manipulation in iPadGraffle would be ridiculously cool. Say you had layer control bar on the bottom of the iPad window. Tap a layer icon to show/hide, tap-slide to change opacity. Oh, man, I can't wait -- this is like Christmas. -John From wiml at omnigroup.com Mon Feb 8 12:41:32 2010 From: wiml at omnigroup.com (Wim Lewis) Date: Mon Feb 8 12:41:36 2010 Subject: multiple layer -> multiple page PDF export In-Reply-To: <2C98A298-3D0A-456F-88D1-6C4950207789@oram.com> References: <2C98A298-3D0A-456F-88D1-6C4950207789@oram.com> Message-ID: On Feb 7, 2010, at 11:34 PM, John Oram wrote: > Is this possible? I believe canvases export this way, but I don't believe layers do. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious. I think you're right, there isn't a builtin way to export each layer to a separate PDF page. There are some workarounds --- you could write an applescript to copy each layer to a new canvas, and export all those; you could export to SVG which (IIRC) puts each layer in its own group, and fiddle with them in an SVG editor... none of these are really ideal though. From john at oram.com Mon Feb 8 13:22:53 2010 From: john at oram.com (John Oram) Date: Mon Feb 8 13:22:58 2010 Subject: multiple layer -> multiple page PDF export In-Reply-To: References: <2C98A298-3D0A-456F-88D1-6C4950207789@oram.com> Message-ID: Already been down that road. I had actually forgotten that back in 2004-2005 I built an Applescript that toggled the visibility of sets of one or more layers, and exported the selections to Keynote which then exported it to a multi-page PDF. Unfortunately that was impossible to maintain. Anyway, if it's not already a feature request I'd very much like it to be. In fact, I'd even take it on the iPad version first! -j On 2010-02-08, at 12:41 PM, Wim Lewis wrote: > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 11:34 PM, John Oram wrote: >> Is this possible? I believe canvases export this way, but I don't believe layers do. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious. > > I think you're right, there isn't a builtin way to export each layer to a separate PDF page. > > There are some workarounds --- you could write an applescript to copy each layer to a new canvas, and export all those; you could export to SVG which (IIRC) puts each layer in its own group, and fiddle with them in an SVG editor... none of these are really ideal though. > > > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users > From alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org Tue Feb 9 08:08:38 2010 From: alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org (Alan Schmitt) Date: Tue Feb 9 08:18:37 2010 Subject: filling some space delimited by lines Message-ID: Hello, I'm helping a friend do some diagrams, and I was wondering if something was possible. Assume that you have some frontier delimited by some shapes on lines, as in the following figure: -------------- next part -------------- I would like to fill the middle space in some color. I'm using line so that I can move the circles or the triangle around and still keep the connections. Do you have a suggestion as how I may do this? Thanks, Alan From pim at lingewoud.nl Wed Feb 10 07:57:19 2010 From: pim at lingewoud.nl (Pim Snel) Date: Wed Feb 10 08:12:37 2010 Subject: shared objects in different canvasses Message-ID: <4DFAAC16-D82D-46D6-97C6-9CADC77C3335@lingewoud.nl> Hi, I'm reposting this message which I earlier posted on the forum. ---- I used to use ArgoUML for managing the inventory and deployment of our servers and applications. One feature of ArgoUML is that you can make several diagrams where the same objects can be used. This way you can have on the one hand a diagram with all hosts and on the other hand a solution diagram where some of these hosts are linked and also contain software components. These objects in ArgoUML don't have to look visually the same in the different diagrams but their meta data like their object name always stay the same and thus unique. If you work this way the outline of child components grows and but still stays clean without any extra work, because their is no redundant information. Another reason why this would be very usefull is that OmniGraffle could be used as data input interface for complex systems like CMS's or data center management tools. At this point OmniGraffle is only usefull for visualizing data coming from these systems. I know of linkback and I know of the shared layers feature, but both don't seem to fullfill above needs. The Shared layers seemed promising but their is no outline of shared objects and if you change the appearance of an object it changes everywhere. Will this feature of sharing object meta data with different graphic appearance in different stencils ever be available in OmniGraffle? Is their a way of working to achieve the above already in OmniGraffle Pro 5? Regards, Pim Snel Lingewoud B.V. Voorstraat 8 4147 CC Asperen Tel. +31 (0)345 582222 Fax. +31 (0)345 820203 From jpage at omnigroup.com Thu Feb 11 08:25:49 2010 From: jpage at omnigroup.com (Joel Page) Date: Thu Feb 11 08:25:51 2010 Subject: OmniGraffle 5.2.2 beta 1 is now available Message-ID: <8732B942-3A62-46E1-A683-F662103169B6@omnigroup.com> There just happens to be *another* platform that we sometimes develop for, that's not the iPad, and as such we've just released a beta version of OmniGraffle and OmniGraffle Professional 5.2.2. This release contains s good many bug fixes dealing with shared layers and Mac OS 10.6 compatibility, along with fixes to a number of crashes when working with Visio files, PDFs, and subgraphs. We've added a preference to turn off multi-touch gestures on laptops that have that feature, and a last-minute hidden preference to disable the scrollwheel to zoom in and out when Commmand is held down, for those of you using Apple's new Magic Mouse. Much more information is in the release notes page , and downloads are on the beta page . Cheers, Joel Page Product Manager, OmniGraffle The Omni Group From garytreible at me.com Wed Feb 17 15:34:15 2010 From: garytreible at me.com (Gary Treible) Date: Wed Feb 17 15:41:20 2010 Subject: Magnet snaps to 1/4, 1/2, or 3/4 the height of a rectangle Message-ID: <6887EFBF-FAC0-4E86-8D9A-5C9D9B6C6FDA@me.com> I'm trying to make an integrated circuit symbol, which is essentially a rectangle with pins (horizontal lines) spaced evenly along the sides. I'm placing a magnet on the shape where I want each line to start. Unfortunately, when I get near 1/4, 1/2, or 3/4 the height of the rectangle, a blue line appears and my magnet jumps to a location I don't want. I'm sure there's a way to disable this behavior but I don't even know what it might be called to search for it in the help. How do I turn this off? Also, can I get magnets to snap to the grid? They seem free form except when I get near these dimensions of the shape. If magnets were going to snap to anything, I would think it would be the grid if I have that turned on. This has been very frustrating. Thanks for any help with this! From jpage at omnigroup.com Wed Feb 17 15:45:40 2010 From: jpage at omnigroup.com (Joel Page) Date: Wed Feb 17 15:45:42 2010 Subject: Magnet snaps to 1/4, 1/2, or 3/4 the height of a rectangle In-Reply-To: <6887EFBF-FAC0-4E86-8D9A-5C9D9B6C6FDA@me.com> References: <6887EFBF-FAC0-4E86-8D9A-5C9D9B6C6FDA@me.com> Message-ID: Hold down the Command key when moving the magnet around, that will temporarily disable the smart guides. As for snapping to the grid, magnets are considered zero-by-zero entities, so unfortunately they're not selectable and can't snap to the grid (we wish to change this for a future release). Hope that helps, Joel On Feb 17, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Gary Treible wrote: > I'm trying to make an integrated circuit symbol, which is essentially a rectangle with pins (horizontal lines) spaced evenly along the sides. I'm placing a magnet on the shape where I want each line to start. Unfortunately, when I get near 1/4, 1/2, or 3/4 the height of the rectangle, a blue line appears and my magnet jumps to a location I don't want. I'm sure there's a way to disable this behavior but I don't even know what it might be called to search for it in the help. How do I turn this off? > > Also, can I get magnets to snap to the grid? They seem free form except when I get near these dimensions of the shape. If magnets were going to snap to anything, I would think it would be the grid if I have that turned on. > > This has been very frustrating. > > Thanks for any help with this!_______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users From h.zuidam at online.nl Thu Feb 18 00:37:52 2010 From: h.zuidam at online.nl (Hans Zuidam) Date: Thu Feb 18 00:45:39 2010 Subject: Drawing electronic (digital) timing diagrams Message-ID: <5F68A916-9AB4-4D62-8FB0-BCA071AC9A0D@online.nl> Hi, I want to use OmniGraffle to draw timing diagrams for electronic signals such as the (ASCII art :-) diagram below: | _________________ _______________ | / \ / | / \/ +--- ---------------------- | \ / | \_________________/ | To make drawing a little simpler I want to create stencils for a number of basic shapes, such as the first part above where the signal can both be high and low and the second part where a signal is high. The shapes themselves are to resize horizontally, but the slopes of the edges should stay constant. Anyone an idea how to achieve that? Thanks in advance. With kind regards, Hans -- Hans Zuidam De Koppele 136, 5632 LD Eindhoven, The Netherlands Tel. +31 40 2481546, Mob. +31 6 42345456 h.zuidam@computer.org From waynefb at earthlink.net Thu Feb 18 10:15:31 2010 From: waynefb at earthlink.net (Wayne Brissette) Date: Thu Feb 18 10:15:33 2010 Subject: Flatten SVGs? Message-ID: <22685178.1266516931461.JavaMail.root@mtwamui-sandhill.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I've stumbled across an issue where if I open a PDF using OmniGraffle Pro copy and paste the contents into a OG document, then export that drawing as an SVG, a single SVG file is produced. However, if I place the PDF image instead of opening it, the resulting SVG file is not a flat file, it is a folder with a PDF inside it. First, why is this? Second, is there a way to consistently get a flat file instead of a folder with an SVG file and PDF when doing an export? Wayne From wiml at omnigroup.com Fri Feb 19 16:41:46 2010 From: wiml at omnigroup.com (Wim Lewis) Date: Fri Feb 19 16:35:30 2010 Subject: Flatten SVGs? In-Reply-To: <22685178.1266516931461.JavaMail.root@mtwamui-sandhill.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <22685178.1266516931461.JavaMail.root@mtwamui-sandhill.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Wayne Brissette wrote: > I've stumbled across an issue where if I open a PDF using OmniGraffle Pro copy and paste the contents into a OG document, then export that drawing as an SVG, a single SVG file is produced. However, if I place the PDF image instead of opening it, the resulting SVG file is not a flat file, it is a folder with a PDF inside it. This has to do with the difference in what OmniGraffle is doing when you import a PDF in each case. If you open a PDF as if it were a document, OG will parse the contents of the PDF and attempt to convert it into an equivalent OmniGraffle document. Lines and text in the PDF will be converted to lines and text objects in OG. The conversion is far from perfect, but it's often good enough. If you place the PDF as an image, OG will treat it in the same way it would treat a PNG or JPEG: an embedded image file that occupies some rectangular space on the canvas, but OG doesn't know about the PDF's internal structure. > Second, is there a way to consistently get a flat file instead of a folder with an SVG file and PDF when doing an export? If the document has any external resources --- any embedded images, basically --- then OmniGraffle needs a place to put them where the SVG file can reference them, so it will export the SVG as a directory + images. If everything can be placed directly in the SVG file, then OG will simply create an SVG file. From jpage at omnigroup.com Wed Feb 24 13:42:54 2010 From: jpage at omnigroup.com (Joel Page) Date: Wed Feb 24 13:42:56 2010 Subject: OmniGraffle 5.2.2 release candidate 1 is now available Message-ID: Between iPad development meetings, wireframing, mocking things up, and general UI theorycrafting, I managed to remember to release OmniGraffle 5.2.2 rc 1, but almost forgot to tell anyone about it. So, beta testing went well, and we're here at release candidate stage. Simple enough. You may find the release candidate at our beta page , and as always, release notes await . Joel Page Product Manager, OmniGraffle The Omni Group From nic at mac.com Fri Mar 12 09:44:31 2010 From: nic at mac.com (Nic Olinsky) Date: Fri Mar 12 09:44:45 2010 Subject: iPad version beta Message-ID: <386562F6-E1E1-4A87-AF92-77227DBFF0A0@mac.com> Now that my order is officially placed, I was wondering if you are taking applications for beta testers? From michael at hesta.com Fri Mar 12 09:49:12 2010 From: michael at hesta.com (Michael Styles Verruto) Date: Fri Mar 12 09:48:15 2010 Subject: iPad version beta In-Reply-To: <386562F6-E1E1-4A87-AF92-77227DBFF0A0@mac.com> References: <386562F6-E1E1-4A87-AF92-77227DBFF0A0@mac.com> Message-ID: YEAH ARE YA- HUH HUH HUH?????? PLEASE? On Mar 12, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Nic Olinsky wrote: > Now that my order is officially placed, I was wondering if you are > taking applications for beta testers? > > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users From elliott at yrl.co.uk Fri Mar 12 11:32:23 2010 From: elliott at yrl.co.uk (Elliott Roper) Date: Fri Mar 12 11:38:36 2010 Subject: iPad version beta In-Reply-To: References: <386562F6-E1E1-4A87-AF92-77227DBFF0A0@mac.com> Message-ID: On 12 Mar 2010, at 17:49, Michael Styles Verruto wrote: > YEAH ARE YA- HUH HUH HUH?????? > > PLEASE? No pressure then? From zaxaz at mac.com Fri Mar 12 12:47:30 2010 From: zaxaz at mac.com (Scott) Date: Fri Mar 12 12:48:12 2010 Subject: iPad version beta In-Reply-To: References: <386562F6-E1E1-4A87-AF92-77227DBFF0A0@mac.com> Message-ID: Same here, would love to participate. On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Michael Styles Verruto wrote: > YEAH ARE YA- HUH HUH HUH?????? > > PLEASE? > > > On Mar 12, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Nic Olinsky wrote: > >> Now that my order is officially placed, I was wondering if you are taking applications for beta testers? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OmniGraffle-Users mailing list >> OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users > > > _______________________________________________ > OmniGraffle-Users mailing list > OmniGraffle-Users@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/omnigraffle-users From omni_groupie at unithom.com Fri Mar 12 22:55:33 2010 From: omni_groupie at unithom.com (Thom Brooks) Date: Fri Mar 12 22:55:36 2010 Subject: iPad version beta In-Reply-To: <386562F6-E1E1-4A87-AF92-77227DBFF0A0@mac.com> References: <386562F6-E1E1-4A87-AF92-77227DBFF0A0@mac.com> Message-ID: Fourth-ed, or whatever. Yes please! On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Nic Olinsky wrote: > Now that my order is officially placed, I was wondering if you are taking > applications for beta testers? From treaves at silverfieldstech.com Sat Mar 13 06:14:10 2010 From: treaves at silverfieldstech.com (Timothy Reaves) Date: Sat Mar 13 06:20:47 2010 Subject: iPad version beta In-Reply-To: References: <386562F6-E1E1-4A87-AF92-77227DBFF0A0@mac.com> Message-ID: <18C3246D-D2CB-4D1E-9716-21BB314B6AA4@silverfieldstech.com> On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:55 AM, Thom Brooks wrote: > Fourth-ed, or whatever. Yes please! > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Nic Olinsky wrote: > >> Now that my order is officially placed, I was wondering if you are taking applications for beta testers? Ar we really going to have everyone on the list perpetuate this? People, think: if the want testers, they'll ask for them. They've been doing this a while. From chris.ridd at isode.com Mon Mar 15 09:23:58 2010 From: chris.ridd at isode.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Mon Mar 15 09:30:04 2010 Subject: iPad version beta In-Reply-To: References: <386562F6-E1E1-4A87-AF92-77227DBFF0A0@mac.com> Message-ID: <4B9E5F1E.6060305@isode.com> On 12/03/2010 19:32, Elliott Roper wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2010, at 17:49, Michael Styles Verruto wrote: > >> YEAH ARE YA- HUH HUH HUH?????? >> >> PLEASE? > > > No pressure then? No, the iPad screen is not pressure-sensitive :-) Cheers, Chris From neil at bowers.com Tue Mar 16 08:09:39 2010 From: neil at bowers.com (Neil Bowers) Date: Tue Mar 16 08:09:47 2010 Subject: Export to powerpoint? Message-ID: <315064D8-259B-43DA-874A-6E52D098BB07@bowers.com> I feel dirty suggesting this, but it would be incredibly helpful if OmniGraffle (Pro, I guess) could export PowerPoint pictures. I spend a lot of my time creating slides, most of which contain pictures that I create using omnigraffle. My current mode of working is to copy pictures as PDF, so I can scale them, and have them look good when presenting. But there are times when I want to animate the building of picture, which means I either have to use the PPT drawing tools or build multiple slides to fake the animation. Neither of those is pleasing. Having "Copy As" -> "PowerPoint picture" would be the most useful for the way I work. Either that, or could you just create your powerpoint replacement? ;-) Neil From mphsmcdonald at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 14:14:36 2010 From: mphsmcdonald at gmail.com (Charles J McDonald) Date: Tue Mar 16 14:14:44 2010 Subject: Export to powerpoint? In-Reply-To: <315064D8-259B-43DA-874A-6E52D098BB07@bowers.com> References: <315064D8-259B-43DA-874A-6E52D098BB07@bowers.com> Message-ID: <2169694D-C5E2-404D-9DB8-5376EAB537ED@gmail.com> On Mar 16, 2010, at 11:09, Neil Bowers wrote: > I feel dirty suggesting this, but it would be incredibly helpful if OmniGraffle (Pro, I guess) > could export PowerPoint pictures. HAHA, I could see some real use to that. As a teacher, I'm making up slides for high school students and adult professional development all the time. I create my elements in OmniGraffle and do the same copy-paste trick to bring them into Keynote where the magic move transitions make some beautiful animations for me... it's not a solution but its a quick, dirty way to get some Ooo-Ahh's. Oh, when I do get compliments on my beautiful "PowerPoint" slides, I just gracefully accept the compliment. They don't need to know ;) -- Chuck ---------------------------------------- Charles J McDonald, Ed.D. Teacher Leader Department of Natural Philosophy Mt Pleasant High School http://www.linkedin.com/in/cjmcdonald42 http://sites.google.com/site/mphscience