OmniGraffle to Word X best way?

Nate Goldshlag nateg at pobox.com
Mon Jan 19 05:58:23 PST 2004


I discovered that John is right in that the .epsf files that GC creates 
with PICT preview are not viewable in Word on a PC.

With the .wmf method I found that the files when put into Word were 
*much* smaller than the original .eps that OmniGraffle created (without 
preview).  In fact I had to scale the .wmf files by 960% to get the 
same size image.  I found when I printed and looked closely that there 
are subtle jaggies with the .wmf files that do not exist with the .eps 
files.  I am not sure if .wmf is a vector or bitmap format, or if the 
problem arises because of the Graphic Converter bug that makes them so 
small that you have to drastically expand them.  I have an email in to 
Thorsten Lemke about this.

I know that it *is* possible to get an eps preview that both Mac and PC 
can see - Photoshop Elements can do it with Mac 8 bit JPEG medium 
quality.

So I am left with my workaround until OmniGraffle can do it alone.

Nate

On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:06 PM, John Oram wrote:

> I've been playing around with exporting to PDF from OG, and then 
> exporting to WMF with GraphicConverter to get into Word.
>
> 	OG -> .pdf -> GC -> .wmf -> Word -> .doc
>
> If you Save as... WMF in Graphic Converter you get a 7 MB file (vs. 
> the 112 KB OG and 64 KB PDF.  Make sure you are using the latest 
> version, currently 4.93 -- with 4.8, the WMF was 35 MB and crashed GC 
> upon completion...)
>
> Surprisingly, when inserted into Word, the file is only 300 KB, and 
> opens cleanly on both the Mac and Windows versions of Word.  I haven't 
> had a chance to print yet, but I am able to zoom in quite well, so I 
> am optimistic.  (It also imports into PowerPoint.
>
> As a side note, I went down this route since I wasn't able to get a 
> non-jaggy preview with OG -> .eps -> GC -> .epsf + preview -> Word.
>
> Additionally, they won't open on Word for Windows -- it complains that 
> it needs QuickTime to decompress the JPEG, but it is not installed 
> (when in fact it is...)  I can't risk Windows co-workers dealing with 
> that.
>
> Dumb question -- what does the "F" stand for in EPSF?  Is it 
> equivalent to EPS?  If not, why does GC only allow export to EPSF?
>
> -John
>
>
> At 4:47 PM -0500 1/18/04, Nate Goldshlag wrote:
>> I have another solution.  Export to EPS from OG and then use Graphic 
>> Converter (using their convert and modify menu option) to add a 
>> preview to the EPS.  Make sure you select JPEG and PICT.  This EPS 
>> will be able to be put into Word X with preview and it prints fine.
>>
>> Of course all this may be moot when 3.1 comes out...  At least we can 
>> hope so.
>>
>> Nate
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2004, at 10:27 AM, Nate Goldshlag wrote:
>>
>>> I know this has been discussed, by looking into the archives.  But 
>>> has anybody discovered the secret sauce for getting OmniGraffle 
>>> objects into Word X so that the following occurs:
>>>
>>> 1. There is a (possibly low resolution) preview.
>>> 2. No fuzzies when you print.
>>> 3. Resizable objects, with no loss of resolution.
>>>
>>> Clearly EPS is the best way, but OG does not provide a preview.  So 
>>> the best, but kludgy, workaround I have discovered is the following:
>>>
>>> 1. Copy the selection in OG
>>> 2. In Photoshop Elements, do New from Clipboard.
>>> 3. In Photoshop Elements, export as Photoshop EPS, Macintosh 8 bit 
>>> medium preview.
>>> 4. Import into Word X
>>>
>>> This works, and the stuff prints fine on both Mac and PC.  But does 
>>> anybody have a better way?  I have tried playing around with Preview 
>>> under Panther with no luck.  I really don't want high resolution 
>>> bitmaps like PNG or JPEG.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Nate
>>
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Nate Goldshlag      nateg at pobox.com
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