Links don't show on grouped items

[Leif Smith]

David Kasprzyk asks (see below): "... grouping turns them into a single 
object, so which link would active when you clicked on it?"

The link that would be active would be the link whose arrow had been 
clicked.

When I link something to an object I consider the link to become an 
attribute of the object, like a color. When I group 2 or more objects of 
different color I expect that the group will retain the color of each 
separate object unchanged. So when I combine objects that have links I 
expect that the link for each object will be retained just as if it were 
a color or shape.

That leave open the question of "ok - then what about a link for the 
group?"

Suppose I group a bunch of objects that each have something linked to 
them. If the links for each are preserved we now have a group with a 
bunch of blue arrows, one for each grouped object.

Now we go to a Finder window and drag something to the group. What 
happens?

Maybe a new link is allowed, but it is indicated by a green arrow, or an 
arrow of different shape, telling the user that this is a link for the 
entire group (only one allowed per group).

All kinds of subtle problems arise because it is possible to group 
groups.

Example of desired usage:

Suppose a column of objects, each containing the name of an object in a 
software development project. Each graffle-object has been linked to a 
text description (or header file) for each software-object. I want to 
group the graffle-objects so I can treat them as a unit without having 
to select them each time. When I do that I don't want all the links to 
disappear.

Leif


On Monday, December 31, 2001, at 02:18  PM, David Kasprzyk wrote:

> Dear Mr. Smith:
>
> Well I tested out what you sent to me, and everything happened just as 
> you described.  However when I thought about it, I realized why were 
> are doing this.  Say you linked both of the boxes to different objects 
> and then grouped it.  Well grouping turns them into a single object, so 
> which link would active when you clicked on it?
>
> I think therefore that this shouldn't be changed from the way it is 
> currently.  What do you think about this?
> Let me know and we will go from there.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> David Kasprzyk
> support at omnigroup.com
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> On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 12:37  PM, Leif Smith wrote:
>
>> Links don't show on grouped items:
>>
>> Create a new OmniGraffle document.
>> Draw a square.
>> Turn on "Format>Show Links" menu choice.
>> Drop a folder from a finder window on the square.
>> Blue link arrow appears.
>> Draw a second square.
>> Group the two squares using "Format>Group" menu choice.
>> Blue arrow on first square disappears.
>> Ungroup the two squares.
>> Blue arrow appears again.
>>
>> Leif Smith, Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado
>> leif at pattern.com, 303-778-0880, http://www.pattern.com
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