Some refinements

[David Kasprzyk]

Dear Mr Sutherland:

I am very glad that you have found both of our products to suit your 
needs.  It has always been our desire to develop applications that 
people will enjoy using.

I hope that as we continue development in the new year that you and all 
of our other users will continue to enjoy our software and let us know 
where we can keep improving it.

Thank you all for your support!

Sincerely,

David Kasprzyk
support at omnigroup.com

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On Monday, December 31, 2001, at 05:22  PM, Craig Sutherland wrote:

> David
>
> Happy New Year-
>
> For one I do not want a change in the way Omni softwares utilize the 
> Cocoa framework and foundation panels. There have been so few Cocoa 
> products that the learning curve or the whatever it is curve that makes 
> a software interface familiar and mmm... transparent, second nature has 
> been longer than I hoped.
>
> Managing the panels in all Cocoa applications is not yet comfortable. 
> But to change would not be helpful. Using the Developer applications 
> has given me enough enough time with Cocoa interface to see that it 
> will be a very intuitive presentation. 17 years with one set of visual 
> keys, screen maps, dialogs, etc. makes it a challenge to start fresh.
>
> Every hour I use Graffle helps.
>
> On another note, Outliner has become so much like Dave 
> Winer's/Videotext's More and their predecessors that it is like an old 
> glove.
>
> Craig
>
> On Monday, December 31, 2001, at 03:29  PM, David Kasprzyk wrote:
>
>> Dear Howard and Craig:
>>
>> While I agree that this would be a very useful thing to do, as I know 
>> very well what lots of little windows do to your workspace.  However, 
>> as Craig mentioned, the Color and Fonts panels are part of the Cocoa 
>> foundation (this is why we use the same ones as Mail, etc.) and 
>> therefore can't be embedded into to info panel.  So we are stuck with 
>> these extra few windows.
>>
>> If you have any questions let me know and I'll make sure to get you 
>> some answers.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> David Kasprzyk
>> support at omnigroup.com
>>
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>> On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 09:26  AM, Craig Sutherland wrote:
>>
>>> Howard-
>>>
>>> Been following your excellent suggestions. I believe Colors and Fonts 
>>> are basic pieces within Cocoa. When writing a Cocoa app, there is a 
>>> basic framework of objects provided.
>>>
>>> Curious to see  the response from Omni.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>> On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 11:06  AM, Howard Kaufman wrote:
>>>
>>>> O.K. just some thinking to streamline the program.
>>>>
>>>> Why not integrate the Colors and Fonts functions as info panes.  Too 
>>>> many windows floating around.  For example, you don't really need 
>>>> Fonts and Magnets at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, you all have a Happy New Year!!!
>>>>
>>>> Howard
>>>>
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