Nudging shapes

[David Kasprzyk]

Howard and Robert:

All I have to say about this is that it is the weirdest bug that I have 
encountered in OmniGraffle.  Here is what I have been able to uncover 
about this problem.

When I first opened up Howard's file that he sent me and started a new 
text box, the problem did not appear.  So I selected one of the text 
elements in Howard's text example and behold, I encountered the exact 
problem that both of you described.  Well I found this very confusing, 
so I tried experimenting with several different ideas without success.

Finally, I opened up the fonts window and here's where I uncovered the 
problem.  It seems that this issue is related to the font and size of 
the text.  The font of Howard's text boxes was Geneva, while my default 
font is Gill Sans.  So when I was using Geneva I experienced the 
problem, but not with Gill Sans.

If you want to see what I'm talking about here's a little experiment to 
try out:

Create four text box's each with a different font.  For experiment use 
the following fonts all at size 14; Gill Sans, Georgia, Geneva, and 
Futura.  With Georgia and Gill Sans, the text should type normally, even 
with new lines.  With Geneva, after you enter a newline you can no 
longer see what you are typing.  With Futura you can't even see the 
initial text that you start to type.

Now use the same fonts but all at size 12.  Now with Georgia, Gill Sans, 
and Geneva the text should type normally, even with new lines.  And with 
Futura, after you enter a newline you can no longer see what you are 
typing but you can see you initial typing now.

So what I think we are doing is setting our bounding boxes for the text 
too small when we can't see the text.  If we increase these bounds I 
think the problem will no longer be a factor.

Let me know if any of you experience anything differently than this.  As 
always, keep sending in your bugs, comments, and questions.

Sincerely,

David Kasprzyk
support at omnigroup.com

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On Wednesday, December 26, 2001, at 07:07  PM, Howard Kaufman wrote:

>>> I notice that when typing text in a new text box, you can use
>>> option-return to get a new line.  The box expands for the new line, 
>>> but
>>> the  text itself doesn't show up until you finish typing.  So after 
>>> the
>>> first line, you are typing "blind".
>>
>> Hmm, well I couldn't get this issue to appear on my machines.  Can you
>> send in a .graffle file that you have this problem in?
>
> I will attach a file, but the problem may also be with my description of
> the  problem.  Let me try again to explain it.  If I start a text box 
> with
> the text tool, sometimes I want it to have line breaks where I want 
> them.
> So far so good.  So I read that you can have a new line with the command
> Option-return.  When I do this the text box adds a new blank line below 
> the
> line I was typing.  The problem is if I keep typing, the text I enter is
> not showing up in the new line. I also lose the insertion cursor.   If I
> stop and click outside of the text box, then the new characters do 
> appear.


On Wednesday, December 26, 2001, at 08:49  PM, Robert Westmoreland wrote:

From: Robert Westmoreland <khr at earthlink.net>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001  08:49:51  PM US/Pacific
To: David Kasprzyk <support at omnigroup.com>, Howard Kaufman 
<hkaufman at mindspring.com>
Cc: <omnigraffle-users at omnigroup.com>
Subject: Re: Nudging shapes

For the record, I experienced this same bug with the release version of 
OG.
I did not report it because I was typing Japanese at the time, and 
thought
it was probably a bug in the OS X Japanese input system. (Also, because 
I am
lazy.) However, I am not able to repro it now (with the beta (2.0b3) and 
OS
X 10.1.2).

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