From abridge at gmail.com Sat Mar 1 11:36:00 2008 From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge) Date: Sat Mar 1 11:36:05 2008 Subject: Looking for details on keychains Message-ID: <4cfa589b0803011136med0e0eej5dae72457ff9615c@mail.gmail.com> I'm continuing to have the World's Worst Time dealing with broken keychains after upgrading to Leopard. I've never really paid attention to keychains, they've just worked up to this point, but now I really need to grok the fulness of these puppies to understand what's happening and how to safely fix it. I've searched for underlying materials about keychain or Keychain Access.app but nothing is leaping to the top. I'd appreciate a pointer into the right place. Thank you! Adam From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Sat Mar 1 18:39:59 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Sat Mar 1 18:40:04 2008 Subject: Looking for details on keychains In-Reply-To: <4cfa589b0803011136med0e0eej5dae72457ff9615c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4cfa589b0803011136med0e0eej5dae72457ff9615c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0803011839m2933e4b6qcda200667e9e1465@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Adam Bridge wrote: > I'm continuing to have the World's Worst Time dealing with broken > keychains after upgrading to Leopard. > > I've never really paid attention to keychains, they've just worked up > to this point, but now I really need to grok the fulness of these > puppies to understand what's happening and how to safely fix it. > > I've searched for underlying materials about keychain or Keychain > Access.app but nothing is leaping to the top. > > I'd appreciate a pointer into the right place. Maybe this is what you're looking for: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107234 ? -- Best Regards, John Musbach From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Sat Mar 1 18:41:32 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Sat Mar 1 18:41:35 2008 Subject: Looking for details on keychains In-Reply-To: <17c8e29e0803011839m2933e4b6qcda200667e9e1465@mail.gmail.com> References: <4cfa589b0803011136med0e0eej5dae72457ff9615c@mail.gmail.com> <17c8e29e0803011839m2933e4b6qcda200667e9e1465@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0803011841j10c4d5d1y2918054ab324e8e0@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:39 PM, John Musbach wrote: > Maybe this is what you're looking for: > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107234 ? This document may be more relevant: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh1777.html -- Best Regards, John Musbach From david at idiomatrix.com Sun Mar 2 08:45:11 2008 From: david at idiomatrix.com (David Herren) Date: Sun Mar 2 08:45:18 2008 Subject: Looking for details on keychains In-Reply-To: <17c8e29e0803011841j10c4d5d1y2918054ab324e8e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4cfa589b0803011136med0e0eej5dae72457ff9615c@mail.gmail.com> <17c8e29e0803011839m2933e4b6qcda200667e9e1465@mail.gmail.com> <17c8e29e0803011841j10c4d5d1y2918054ab324e8e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Neither of the suggested articles addresses problems with Leopard keychain problems after upgrading from a previous version of the OS... These are the problems the OP and I are both experiencing. On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:41 PM, John Musbach wrote: > This document may be more relevant: > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh1777.html /david -- david herren-lage - shoreham, vt All great truths begin as blasphemies. - George Bernard Shaw From charles.dyer at gmail.com Sun Mar 2 09:11:27 2008 From: charles.dyer at gmail.com (Charles Dyer) Date: Sun Mar 2 09:11:39 2008 Subject: Looking for details on keychains In-Reply-To: References: <4cfa589b0803011136med0e0eej5dae72457ff9615c@mail.gmail.com> <17c8e29e0803011839m2933e4b6qcda200667e9e1465@mail.gmail.com> <17c8e29e0803011841j10c4d5d1y2918054ab324e8e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 02 Mar 2008, at 11:45:11, David Herren wrote: > Neither of the suggested articles addresses problems with Leopard > keychain problems after upgrading from a previous version of the OS... > > These are the problems the OP and I are both experiencing. I had problems with the keychain for several items. What I did was create a new keychain and move everything from my old main keychain to it. I noticed that certain items _copied_ to the new keychain, but did not _move_; they reported that items of the same name were already there... which was impossible, this was a new, blank, keychain. These items were, of course, the ones which had been giving problems. On checking, there were items of the same name in the new keychain, so they were definitely present in both places. I made sure that I had a good backup from _before_ I started messing with the keychain and deleted the keychain containing the problematic items. I also deleted several items which did not appear to contain any actual data. I have not had any problems since then, but then I only did that on Thursday, so it's possible that there will be problems. However, nothing's broken yet. You might want to try that and see if it fixes your problem. From kcall at mac.com Sun Mar 2 16:56:42 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Sun Mar 2 16:56:46 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) Message-ID: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> Is there a way to EXPORT "Secure Notes" in a keychain so I can move them to a new computer? K From joar at joar.com Sun Mar 2 17:03:41 2008 From: joar at joar.com (j o a r) Date: Sun Mar 2 17:03:47 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) In-Reply-To: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> References: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> Message-ID: On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > Is there a way to EXPORT "Secure Notes" in a keychain so I can move > them to a new computer? You can copy the entire keychain over to that other computer, open it in Keychain Access, and then (here's where I start guessing) drag and drop items over to the other keychain. j o a r From kcall at mac.com Sun Mar 2 17:23:18 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Sun Mar 2 17:23:32 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) In-Reply-To: References: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> Message-ID: <45FDD34C-D214-441C-AB07-67EEEE9AB6A0@mac.com> On Mar 2, 2008, at 5:03 PM, j o a r wrote: > > On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > >> Is there a way to EXPORT "Secure Notes" in a keychain so I can move >> them to a new computer? > > You can copy the entire keychain over to that other computer, open > it in Keychain Access, and then (here's where I start guessing) drag > and drop items over to the other keychain. > > j o a r here's what I've found: I moved my MBPro keychain to my MacPro. I double-clicked the keychain I moved and it loaded via Keychain Access as expected. I can select the 62 secure notes en masse and copy/paste them into the keychain I already started using on the MacPro. However, for each of the 62 items, I am queried for my password. Since both keychains are named "login.keychain", I just renamed the one I moved and will access the secure notes as needed. K From curtisburns at mac.com Mon Mar 3 06:44:14 2008 From: curtisburns at mac.com (Curtis Burns) Date: Mon Mar 3 06:44:20 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) In-Reply-To: <45FDD34C-D214-441C-AB07-67EEEE9AB6A0@mac.com> References: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> <45FDD34C-D214-441C-AB07-67EEEE9AB6A0@mac.com> Message-ID: <4DCAA5A4-B710-4697-8FD7-ECEDDFF12CF4@mac.com> Doesn't .Mac sync Keychain notes as well as keychains? I'm not in a position to check right now. On Mar 2, 2008, at 20:23 , Kevin Callahan wrote: > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 5:03 PM, j o a r wrote: > >> >> On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: >> >>> Is there a way to EXPORT "Secure Notes" in a keychain so I can >>> move them to a new computer? >> >> You can copy the entire keychain over to that other computer, open >> it in Keychain Access, and then (here's where I start guessing) >> drag and drop items over to the other keychain. >> >> j o a r > > here's what I've found: > > I moved my MBPro keychain to my MacPro. > I double-clicked the keychain I moved and it loaded via Keychain > Access as expected. > > I can select the 62 secure notes en masse and copy/paste them into > the keychain I already started using on the MacPro. > > However, for each of the 62 items, I am queried for my password. > > Since both keychains are named "login.keychain", I just renamed the > one I moved and will access the secure notes as needed. > > K > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-talk mailing list > MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk -- Cheers, | c u r t i s | b u r n s | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | curtisburns@mac.com | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From kcall at mac.com Mon Mar 3 08:21:24 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Mon Mar 3 08:21:48 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) In-Reply-To: <4DCAA5A4-B710-4697-8FD7-ECEDDFF12CF4@mac.com> References: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> <45FDD34C-D214-441C-AB07-67EEEE9AB6A0@mac.com> <4DCAA5A4-B710-4697-8FD7-ECEDDFF12CF4@mac.com> Message-ID: <9654A06E-5213-4D50-88BA-D521E9277E28@mac.com> On Mar 3, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Curtis Burns wrote: > Doesn't .Mac sync Keychain notes as well as keychains? I'm not in a > position to check right now. yes, it does but I didn't want to sync everything from the MBPro to the new machine. I just wanted the Secure Notes K > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 20:23 , Kevin Callahan wrote: > >> >> On Mar 2, 2008, at 5:03 PM, j o a r wrote: >> >>> >>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a way to EXPORT "Secure Notes" in a keychain so I can >>>> move them to a new computer? >>> >>> You can copy the entire keychain over to that other computer, open >>> it in Keychain Access, and then (here's where I start guessing) >>> drag and drop items over to the other keychain. >>> >>> j o a r >> >> here's what I've found: >> >> I moved my MBPro keychain to my MacPro. >> I double-clicked the keychain I moved and it loaded via Keychain >> Access as expected. >> >> I can select the 62 secure notes en masse and copy/paste them into >> the keychain I already started using on the MacPro. >> >> However, for each of the 62 items, I am queried for my password. >> >> Since both keychains are named "login.keychain", I just renamed the >> one I moved and will access the secure notes as needed. >> >> K >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-talk mailing list >> MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk > > -- > Cheers, > > | c u r t i s | b u r n s | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | curtisburns@mac.com | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-talk mailing list > MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk http://www.kevincallahan.org/ http://www.kevincallahan.org/software/accessorizer.html http://www.xeniamara.com/ From joar at joar.com Mon Mar 3 08:28:54 2008 From: joar at joar.com (j o a r) Date: Mon Mar 3 08:29:20 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) In-Reply-To: <9654A06E-5213-4D50-88BA-D521E9277E28@mac.com> References: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> <45FDD34C-D214-441C-AB07-67EEEE9AB6A0@mac.com> <4DCAA5A4-B710-4697-8FD7-ECEDDFF12CF4@mac.com> <9654A06E-5213-4D50-88BA-D521E9277E28@mac.com> Message-ID: <642FD957-1A97-4917-9F66-EF32013CCB87@joar.com> On Mar 3, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > yes, it does > > but I didn't want to sync everything from the MBPro to the new > machine. > > I just wanted the Secure Notes That sounds like a good feature request to send to Apple: The ability to specify a subset of the items in the Keychain that should be synchronized. j o a r From abridge at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 09:10:33 2008 From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge) Date: Mon Mar 3 09:10:39 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) In-Reply-To: <9654A06E-5213-4D50-88BA-D521E9277E28@mac.com> References: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> <45FDD34C-D214-441C-AB07-67EEEE9AB6A0@mac.com> <4DCAA5A4-B710-4697-8FD7-ECEDDFF12CF4@mac.com> <9654A06E-5213-4D50-88BA-D521E9277E28@mac.com> Message-ID: <4cfa589b0803030910p1264577dl9f1228368518cdb2@mail.gmail.com> If on the originl machine you make a new keychain and copy the notes into it, you can then copy that keychain to the new machine. The keychain will live in ~/Library/Keychains when you create it. I agree that synching a subset of keychains would be nice. For some crazy reason when I try to sync keychains between machines I'm asked about a computer that hasn't existed for years and which doesn't appear anywhere. Since that machine existed I have completely done over my .Mac syching but it hasn't done any good. Since I can't give the password for the computer the sync just hangs up asking for it forever. ARGH Adam On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > > On Mar 3, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Curtis Burns wrote: > > > Doesn't .Mac sync Keychain notes as well as keychains? I'm not in a > > position to check right now. > > yes, it does > > but I didn't want to sync everything from the MBPro to the new machine. > > I just wanted the Secure Notes > > > > K > > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 20:23 , Kevin Callahan wrote: > > > >> > >> On Mar 2, 2008, at 5:03 PM, j o a r wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > >>> > >>>> Is there a way to EXPORT "Secure Notes" in a keychain so I can > >>>> move them to a new computer? > >>> > >>> You can copy the entire keychain over to that other computer, open > >>> it in Keychain Access, and then (here's where I start guessing) > >>> drag and drop items over to the other keychain. > >>> > >>> j o a r > >> > >> here's what I've found: > >> > >> I moved my MBPro keychain to my MacPro. > >> I double-clicked the keychain I moved and it loaded via Keychain > >> Access as expected. > >> > >> I can select the 62 secure notes en masse and copy/paste them into > >> the keychain I already started using on the MacPro. > >> > >> However, for each of the 62 items, I am queried for my password. > >> > >> Since both keychains are named "login.keychain", I just renamed the > >> one I moved and will access the secure notes as needed. > >> > >> K > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MacOSX-talk mailing list > >> MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > | c u r t i s | b u r n s | > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | curtisburns@mac.com | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MacOSX-talk mailing list > > MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk > > > > http://www.kevincallahan.org/ > http://www.kevincallahan.org/software/accessorizer.html > http://www.xeniamara.com/ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-talk mailing list > MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk > From kcall at mac.com Mon Mar 3 09:44:01 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Mon Mar 3 09:44:20 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) In-Reply-To: <4cfa589b0803030910p1264577dl9f1228368518cdb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> <45FDD34C-D214-441C-AB07-67EEEE9AB6A0@mac.com> <4DCAA5A4-B710-4697-8FD7-ECEDDFF12CF4@mac.com> <9654A06E-5213-4D50-88BA-D521E9277E28@mac.com> <4cfa589b0803030910p1264577dl9f1228368518cdb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mar 3, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Adam Bridge wrote: > If on the originl machine you make a new keychain and copy the notes > into it, you can then copy that keychain to the new machine. when I tried that, I was queried for the password for each secure note (62 of them) ... however, you pointed out the TAB that allows you to toggle some options: Radio 1: Allow all applications to access this item Radio 2: Confirm before allowing access Switch: Ask for Keychain password Given Radio 1, I thought I'd select a half dozen secure notes to see if I could change the access control for all of them at the same time. When I select the group, hit GET INFO (in order to have access to the Access Control tab), I get individual GI panels for each note (as expected). So, I can't see how to change the attributes of all notes (maybe there's an option I'm missing). I then decided to create a new keychain to house just secure notes. When I select a group to copy / paste or drag and drop, I'm prompted for the password for each note. I don't see a way to export Secure Notes nor to sync them as a subset of a keychain. There's an Export Items menu item that is grayed out. And under Keychain HELP, searching on Exporting Items doesn't seem to come up with anything. K > > > The keychain will live in ~/Library/Keychains when you create it. > > I agree that synching a subset of keychains would be nice. > > For some crazy reason when I try to sync keychains between machines > I'm asked about a computer that hasn't existed for years and which > doesn't appear anywhere. Since that machine existed I have completely > done over my .Mac syching but it hasn't done any good. Since I can't > give the password for the computer the sync just hangs up asking for > it forever. > > ARGH ouch! > > > Adam > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: >> >> On Mar 3, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Curtis Burns wrote: >> >>> Doesn't .Mac sync Keychain notes as well as keychains? I'm not in a >>> position to check right now. >> >> yes, it does >> >> but I didn't want to sync everything from the MBPro to the new >> machine. >> >> I just wanted the Secure Notes >> >> >> >> K >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 20:23 , Kevin Callahan wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 5:03 PM, j o a r wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way to EXPORT "Secure Notes" in a keychain so I can >>>>>> move them to a new computer? >>>>> >>>>> You can copy the entire keychain over to that other computer, open >>>>> it in Keychain Access, and then (here's where I start guessing) >>>>> drag and drop items over to the other keychain. >>>>> >>>>> j o a r >>>> >>>> here's what I've found: >>>> >>>> I moved my MBPro keychain to my MacPro. >>>> I double-clicked the keychain I moved and it loaded via Keychain >>>> Access as expected. >>>> >>>> I can select the 62 secure notes en masse and copy/paste them into >>>> the keychain I already started using on the MacPro. >>>> >>>> However, for each of the 62 items, I am queried for my password. >>>> >>>> Since both keychains are named "login.keychain", I just renamed the >>>> one I moved and will access the secure notes as needed. >>>> >>>> K >>>> From kcall at mac.com Mon Mar 3 09:44:13 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Mon Mar 3 09:44:45 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) In-Reply-To: <642FD957-1A97-4917-9F66-EF32013CCB87@joar.com> References: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> <45FDD34C-D214-441C-AB07-67EEEE9AB6A0@mac.com> <4DCAA5A4-B710-4697-8FD7-ECEDDFF12CF4@mac.com> <9654A06E-5213-4D50-88BA-D521E9277E28@mac.com> <642FD957-1A97-4917-9F66-EF32013CCB87@joar.com> Message-ID: <217E7701-7842-4A8C-B277-A31C2900D174@mac.com> On Mar 3, 2008, at 8:28 AM, j o a r wrote: > > On Mar 3, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > >> yes, it does >> >> but I didn't want to sync everything from the MBPro to the new >> machine. >> >> I just wanted the Secure Notes > > > That sounds like a good feature request to send to Apple: The > ability to specify a subset of the items in the Keychain that should > be synchronized. > > j o a r good idea! K From scott at cocoadoc.com Mon Mar 3 11:08:46 2008 From: scott at cocoadoc.com (Scott Anguish) Date: Mon Mar 3 11:08:49 2008 Subject: Exporting Secure Notes (Keychain) In-Reply-To: References: <2DC72919-3814-4519-91E6-90914DF71961@mac.com> <45FDD34C-D214-441C-AB07-67EEEE9AB6A0@mac.com> <4DCAA5A4-B710-4697-8FD7-ECEDDFF12CF4@mac.com> <9654A06E-5213-4D50-88BA-D521E9277E28@mac.com> <4cfa589b0803030910p1264577dl9f1228368518cdb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4CB7BB86-62EF-434F-93FF-C30303FC3E28@cocoadoc.com> On Mar 3, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > > On Mar 3, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Adam Bridge wrote: > >> If on the originl machine you make a new keychain and copy the notes >> into it, you can then copy that keychain to the new machine. > > when I tried that, I was queried for the password for each secure > note (62 of them) ... > however, you pointed out the TAB that allows you to toggle some > options: what about making a copy of the existing keychain with everything in it, deleting all but the secure notes, and then syncing? unless you already have new stuff in the keychain on the new machine. From kcall at mac.com Tue Mar 4 11:35:34 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Tue Mar 4 11:36:20 2008 Subject: Transferring purchased tunes to iPod from a second computer Message-ID: <7257FF22-B088-406B-8F2F-935FAFFD4ECB@mac.com> A friend has her iPod library sync'd with a PC. She's in a different location (out of state) on a different computer (which she authorized with iTMS). She purchased a few tunes on this other computer and wants to add them to her iPod without wiping out her current library on the iPod. Is the correct way of doing this simply to connect the iPod to this other computer, set the iPod to MANUAL / Disk mode, then drag and drop the new tunes? K From stevenhatfield at mac.com Tue Mar 4 12:21:16 2008 From: stevenhatfield at mac.com (Steven Hatfield) Date: Tue Mar 4 12:21:24 2008 Subject: Sharing: Apple Store and Apple Care Experience Message-ID: For the past few months my Mac Pro has been having some little issues... the video card was flaking out and putting weird lines up on the screen in increasing amounts as time went on and the lower superdrive bay door wouldn't close cleanly when I would push the tray back in. For the past 2 days I've been really fighting with lockups and very bad visual glitches, so today I decided to address the issue and get it resolved. I tried reseating the card and even using canned air to clean out the machine and video card heat sink... nothing worked. Giving that it was obviously something beyond my meager capabilities, I created a concierge appointment for 12:30pm and took the machine in to the Apple Store at the SouthPark Mall in Charlotte, NC. Since the machine is pretty heavy and the mall is pretty big, I called them around 12:20pm and asked them if they could bring down a cart to help me get the machine up to the store. A nice young lady arrived a few minutes later and like an emergency room nurse took the machine away on the cart while I searched for a parking spot. Very nice. They called my name at 12:35pm and I explained to the genius behind the bar what was going on. He told me that the video card issue was pretty well known; that some cards were bad and did exactly what I was describing. The drive bay door not closing cleanly was a different matter... apparently it is part of the case, and he'd have to replace the entire case! New Mac Pro Case: $580 New ATI X1900 Video card: $400 Labor: $130 Apple Care paying for it all: Priceless. Now if only I didn't have to do without my machine for a week :-/ Have a fantastic day! -Steven From robertlaferla at comcast.net Tue Mar 4 19:16:29 2008 From: robertlaferla at comcast.net (Robert La Ferla) Date: Tue Mar 4 19:16:33 2008 Subject: iSync and Sanyo Katana mobile phone Message-ID: Anyone know of an iSync plug-in for the Sanyo Katana 6600 phone? Or something similar that can be hacked to work with it? From jearle at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 08:06:55 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Wed Mar 5 08:07:03 2008 Subject: Transferring purchased tunes to iPod from a second computer In-Reply-To: <7257FF22-B088-406B-8F2F-935FAFFD4ECB@mac.com> References: <7257FF22-B088-406B-8F2F-935FAFFD4ECB@mac.com> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60803050806j1b13513na28c91ed8f4ec337@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > Is the correct way of doing this simply to connect the iPod to this > other computer, set the iPod to MANUAL / Disk mode, then drag and drop > the new tunes? Yes. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net The Spodcast :: http://spodcast.org From andrew.brown at c18.net Wed Mar 5 10:17:09 2008 From: andrew.brown at c18.net (Andrew Brown) Date: Wed Mar 5 10:17:15 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 Message-ID: I have raised this before, but was greeted with silence... When I send a message to a list, my copy of the sent message is unmarked. When I send a message to an individual, my copy is marked as junk. Is this what Apple intends? AB From fusion at mx6.tiki.ne.jp Wed Mar 5 17:10:01 2008 From: fusion at mx6.tiki.ne.jp (Jean-Christophe Helary) Date: Wed Mar 5 17:10:07 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6 mars 08, at 03:17, Andrew Brown wrote: > When I send a message to a list, my copy of the sent message is > unmarked. > > When I send a message to an individual, my copy is marked as junk. > > Is this what Apple intends? Have you tried to teach it not to handle that as junk ? Jean-Christophe Helary ------------------------------------ http://mac4translators.blogspot.com/ From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 18:25:40 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Wed Mar 5 18:25:44 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17c8e29e0803051825s6eec5b8ctde13113c84d05e21@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: > I have raised this before, but was greeted with silence... > > When I send a message to a list, my copy of the sent message is > unmarked. > > When I send a message to an individual, my copy is marked as junk. > > Is this what Apple intends? Something is wrong with the configuration of the c18.net mail server in that case, however it is not blacklisted anywhere apparently which is good... -- Best Regards, John Musbach From kremels at kreme.com Wed Mar 5 23:37:35 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Wed Mar 5 23:37:38 2008 Subject: Transferring purchased tunes to iPod from a second computer In-Reply-To: <5bbc0cd60803050806j1b13513na28c91ed8f4ec337@mail.gmail.com> References: <7257FF22-B088-406B-8F2F-935FAFFD4ECB@mac.com> <5bbc0cd60803050806j1b13513na28c91ed8f4ec337@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3281C128-F975-4FBA-A867-F31BE7921E3A@kreme.com> On 5-Mar-2008, at 09:06, Jared Earle wrote: > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: >> Is the correct way of doing this simply to connect the iPod to this >> other computer, set the iPod to MANUAL / Disk mode, then drag and >> drop >> the new tunes? > > Yes. She will have to Manually add them to her library a home, and she can't listen to them on her ipod until she does so. -- "Two years from now, spam will be solved," -- Bill Gates, January, 2004 From andrew.brown at c18.net Thu Mar 6 00:16:57 2008 From: andrew.brown at c18.net (Andrew Brown) Date: Thu Mar 6 01:03:52 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4686B048-F82D-4438-8636-26D2839DF2C9@c18.net> On 6 Mar 2008, at 02:10, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > On 6 mars 08, at 03:17, Andrew Brown wrote: > >> When I send a message to a list, my copy of the sent message is >> unmarked. >> >> When I send a message to an individual, my copy is marked as junk. >> >> Is this what Apple intends? > > > Have you tried to teach it not to handle that as junk ? You mean by clicking on the Not Junk button? Yes. Is there another way? I can't see a way of setting a rule to flag a message as not being junk if it is sent by me. A. From tonyc at boldfish.co.uk Thu Mar 6 01:07:21 2008 From: tonyc at boldfish.co.uk (Tony Crockford) Date: Thu Mar 6 01:07:49 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 In-Reply-To: <4686B048-F82D-4438-8636-26D2839DF2C9@c18.net> References: <4686B048-F82D-4438-8636-26D2839DF2C9@c18.net> Message-ID: <47FCC03B-6612-4FEF-BD4F-6A98364E5580@boldfish.co.uk> On 6 Mar 2008, at 08:16, Andrew Brown wrote: >>> >> Have you tried to teach it not to handle that as junk ? > > You mean by clicking on the Not Junk button? Yes. Is there another > way? I can't see a way of setting a rule to flag a message as not > being junk if it is sent by me. in mail preferences, Junk filtering can be optionally exempted on "sender of message is in my address book" is your send from address, in your address book? that might be the quickest system wide solution. From andrew.brown at c18.net Thu Mar 6 01:36:29 2008 From: andrew.brown at c18.net (Andrew Brown) Date: Thu Mar 6 01:36:34 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 In-Reply-To: <47FCC03B-6612-4FEF-BD4F-6A98364E5580@boldfish.co.uk> References: <4686B048-F82D-4438-8636-26D2839DF2C9@c18.net> <47FCC03B-6612-4FEF-BD4F-6A98364E5580@boldfish.co.uk> Message-ID: On 6 Mar 2008, at 10:07, Tony Crockford wrote: > On 6 Mar 2008, at 08:16, Andrew Brown wrote: >>>> >>> Have you tried to teach it not to handle that as junk ? >> >> You mean by clicking on the Not Junk button? Yes. Is there another >> way? I can't see a way of setting a rule to flag a message as not >> being junk if it is sent by me. > > in mail preferences, Junk filtering can be optionally exempted on > "sender of message is in my address book" > > is your send from address, in your address book? Yes, junk filtering is correctly set and I'm in my own address book. I think it's just a everyday act of victimisation, I'll see in a few days if 10.5 is more kindly disposed. It strikes me as strange that messages I send to this list (and to most or all other lists, I think) are not flagged as junk. Perhaps lists have special headers, "FlagAsJunk: No". AB From andrew.brown at c18.net Thu Mar 6 00:14:51 2008 From: andrew.brown at c18.net (Andrew Brown) Date: Thu Mar 6 03:23:11 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 In-Reply-To: <17c8e29e0803051825s6eec5b8ctde13113c84d05e21@mail.gmail.com> References: <17c8e29e0803051825s6eec5b8ctde13113c84d05e21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1F4256FE-67EB-42A2-A926-8B29C99EF02D@c18.net> On 6 Mar 2008, at 03:25, John Musbach wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Andrew Brown > wrote: >> I have raised this before, but was greeted with silence... >> >> When I send a message to a list, my copy of the sent message is >> unmarked. >> >> When I send a message to an individual, my copy is marked as junk. >> >> Is this what Apple intends? > > Something is wrong with the configuration of the c18.net mail server > in that case, however it is not blacklisted anywhere apparently which > is good... I don't think it can be that, when I send a message via a different server I get the same result and I don't think that Mail asks the server "was this message junk" after sending it. AB From joar at joar.com Thu Mar 6 03:30:14 2008 From: joar at joar.com (j o a r) Date: Thu Mar 6 03:30:19 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 In-Reply-To: <1F4256FE-67EB-42A2-A926-8B29C99EF02D@c18.net> References: <17c8e29e0803051825s6eec5b8ctde13113c84d05e21@mail.gmail.com> <1F4256FE-67EB-42A2-A926-8B29C99EF02D@c18.net> Message-ID: <1B1BDB1D-0D55-4D92-A397-ED81F40032B8@joar.com> On Mar 6, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: > I don't think it can be that, when I send a message via a different > server I get the same result and I don't think that Mail asks the > server "was this message junk" after sending it. So you're saying that your copy of the sent message, the one in your "Sent" mailbox - not a CC to yourself, is flagged as junk? If so, I've never seen or heard about that problem before. In your place I'd consider scrapping all of my local Mail storage and preferences and starting out from scratch - Something that's easy if you're using IMAP. j o a r From andrew.brown at c18.net Thu Mar 6 03:50:17 2008 From: andrew.brown at c18.net (Andrew Brown) Date: Thu Mar 6 03:50:22 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 In-Reply-To: <1B1BDB1D-0D55-4D92-A397-ED81F40032B8@joar.com> References: <17c8e29e0803051825s6eec5b8ctde13113c84d05e21@mail.gmail.com> <1F4256FE-67EB-42A2-A926-8B29C99EF02D@c18.net> <1B1BDB1D-0D55-4D92-A397-ED81F40032B8@joar.com> Message-ID: On 6 Mar 2008, at 12:30, j o a r wrote: > So you're saying that your copy of the sent message, the one in > your "Sent" mailbox - not a CC to yourself, is flagged as junk? Yes, that's it. Apple takes a quick look through as it leaves, thinks it's rubbish and flags it "Junk". It's very offensive ;-) > If so, I've never seen or heard about that problem before. In your > place I'd consider scrapping all of my local Mail storage and > preferences and starting out from scratch - Something that's easy > if you're using IMAP. I'm using POP... a new machine is arriving soon, I'll see if that solves the problem. A. From lists at quernstone.com Thu Mar 6 08:08:42 2008 From: lists at quernstone.com (Jonathan Sanderson) Date: Thu Mar 6 08:09:07 2008 Subject: Can anyone suggest 2D presentation/animation software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78A9EDBD-AB43-4A8F-984C-4D58A2B43F2E@quernstone.com> On 20 Feb 2008, at 11:39, Richard Stacpoole wrote: > I am looking for 2D presentation/animation software that can make > better animations than Keynote or Power Point. I am creating > animations for industrial processes and need to integrate the > animations into training videos. I need to be able to create things > like rotating gears, show items moving through the production > processes, highlight sections etc. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there a 3D package that will > work well in 2D space? How about Toon Boom Studio? http://www.toonboomstudio.com/products/toonBoomStudio/ Ages since I used it: took a while to get into, but the tutorials were good, and the workflow very elegant indeed. Output can be to video formats, or Flash, or whatever. Don't be fooled by the cartoon-centric website. While that's its intended use, it's a general peg/timeline/2.5D stage animation package. The artwork style you throw at it is entirely up to you. Also, as a consequence of the cartoon workflow approach, it's quite good for re-using animation components, which I'd imagine might be useful for your purposes. -- Jonathan Sanderson "If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter" (Pascal) From kcall at mac.com Thu Mar 6 10:08:07 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Thu Mar 6 10:08:50 2008 Subject: Time Capsule - accessing backup via Time Machine Message-ID: <23C726E3-2F6C-4316-904D-C97BC9505C49@mac.com> Finally got my TC (terabyte) set up as backup for my brand new MacPro (over cat 6 wire). VERY NICE device !!!!! Love it ! But ... If I haven't accessed Time Machine in a while, there's a 15 seconds delay for TM to get the drive up and running (sleep mode?). Then, once I'm in Time Machine, I can't click CANCEL to change search parameters or exit. The cancel button is unresponsive .. for up to 30 seconds or so. After Cancel has been activated and I'm brought back to my desktop, my Dock disappears and I see a spinning pinwheel. Eventually, my desktop comes back to life. Is this the Finder having difficulty with a drive that it's mounting ? or a drive that hasn't fully spun up ? or ? Now, if I hit TM again, all is fine and things are quick. Very nice! The behavior is only apparent upon hitting TM the first time -- or after some time has gone by (not sure of the interval). Is this indicative of the drive perhaps being in sleep mode and having to spin up? Is this behavior unique to mine TC ? or the Terabyte version? Is there a way to keep the drive from going to sleep ? Thanks, Kevin From kcall at mac.com Thu Mar 6 11:46:49 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Thu Mar 6 11:47:06 2008 Subject: a good sign? Message-ID: can't seem to get into the section of dev center for that handheld Apple's been talking about today good sign? K From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 7 11:36:54 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 7 11:36:59 2008 Subject: Mail 10.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5-Mar-2008, at 11:17, Andrew Brown wrote: > I have raised this before, but was greeted with silence... > > When I send a message to a list, my copy of the sent message is > unmarked. > > When I send a message to an individual, my copy is marked as junk. Your copy? What? Nothing in my sent is ever marked as junk. -- ??????? From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 7 11:43:52 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 7 11:43:55 2008 Subject: Extracting Audio from a DVD Message-ID: <19E73915-9B9C-43A4-830D-71CBE57F512F@kreme.com> I have a DVD (not copy protected non-commercial) that I want to extract a portion of the audio and turn it into a stand-alone mp3 file. What's the easiest way to rip out the audio stream so I can, I dunno, drop it on GarageBand and clip the part I want? -- "But you read a lot of books, I'm thinking. Hard to have faith, ain't it, when you've read too many books?" From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 7 16:34:14 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 7 16:34:18 2008 Subject: Safari Crashes all the time Message-ID: <6D50B5AE-CF09-4ACE-9FB9-80D3A38BF796@kreme.com> Safari keeps crashing, shortly after I launch it. I mean within a dew seconds to a minute or so. Anyone have any clues? I did look at the Webkit nightly a couple of weeks ago before this all started, but I installed them in my Applications folder and not in the system wide one, an I never gave webkit admin auth, so it shouldn't have been able to muck anything up. ==crash log== Process: Safari [67360] Path: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari Identifier: com.apple.Safari Version: 3.0.4 (5523.15) Build Info: WebBrowser-55231500~3 Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [368] Date/Time: 2008-03-07 17:20:53.294 -0700 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C31) Report Version: 6 Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000000007361701c Crashed Thread: 0 Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libPicLens.dylib 0x12a535cc 0x129bf000 + 607692 1 libPicLens.dylib 0x12a53624 0x129bf000 + 607780 2 libPicLens.dylib 0x129d302e 0x129bf000 + 81966 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x967ec7bd ___forwarding___ + 237 4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x967ecb12 _CF_forwarding_prep_0 + 50 5 com.apple.Safari 0x000297d3 0x1000 + 165843 6 com.apple.WebKit 0x96ecbe00 CallDelegate(objc_object* (*)(objc_object*, objc_selector*, ...), WebView*, objc_object*, objc_selector*, objc_object*) + 112 7 com.apple.WebKit 0x96ed1d47 WebFrameLoaderClient::dispatchDidCommitLoad() + 151 8 com.apple.WebCore 0x93db8ee8 WebCore::FrameLoader::dispatchDidCommitLoad() + 24 9 com.apple.WebCore 0x93db4be0 WebCore::FrameLoader::receivedFirstData() + 64 10 com.apple.WebCore 0x93db4b68 WebCore::FrameLoader::setEncoding(WebCore::String const&, bool) + 104 11 com.apple.WebCore 0x93db49ff -[WebCoreFrameBridge receivedData:textEncodingName:] + 175 12 com.apple.WebKit 0x96ed1be0 -[WebHTMLRepresentation receivedData:withDataSource:] + 224 13 com.apple.WebKit 0x96ed1a9b - [WebDataSource(WebInternal) _receivedData:] + 91 14 com.apple.WebKit 0x96ed1a19 WebFrameLoaderClient::committedLoad(WebCore::DocumentLoader*, char const*, int) + 137 15 com.apple.WebCore 0x93db20b6 WebCore::DocumentLoader::commitLoad(char const*, int) + 70 16 com.apple.WebCore 0x93db1c52 WebCore::ResourceLoader::didReceiveData(char const*, int, long long, bool) + 82 17 com.apple.WebCore 0x93db1bc7 WebCore::MainResourceLoader::didReceiveData(char const*, int, long long, bool) + 71 18 com.apple.WebCore 0x93db1b78 WebCore::ResourceLoader::didReceiveData(WebCore::ResourceHandle*, char const*, int, int) + 56 19 com.apple.WebCore 0x93db1b20 - [WebCoreResourceHandleAsDelegate connection:didReceiveData:lengthReceived:] + 160 20 com.apple.Foundation 0x918e53b7 - [NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) sendDidReceiveData:originalLength:] + 119 21 com.apple.Foundation 0x918e531e _NSURLConnectionDidReceiveData + 94 22 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x9569a0af sendDidReceiveDataCallback + 518 23 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x9569776d _CFURLConnectionSendCallbacks + 1559 24 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x956970d9 muxerSourcePerform + 283 25 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9676d62e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 3166 26 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9676dd18 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88 27 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x950aa6a0 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283 28 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x950aa4b9 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374 29 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x950aa32d BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106 30 com.apple.AppKit 0x931a17d9 _DPSNextEvent + 657 31 com.apple.AppKit 0x931a108e -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128 32 com.apple.Safari 0x0000997e 0x1000 + 35198 33 com.apple.AppKit 0x9319a0c5 -[NSApplication run] + 795 34 com.apple.AppKit 0x9316730a NSApplicationMain + 574 35 com.apple.Safari 0x00002456 0x1000 + 5206 [...] Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0x7361701c ebx: 0x129d3016 ecx: 0x944f8edc edx: 0xbfffe1d8 edi: 0x15548300 esi: 0x7361700c ebp: 0xbfffe178 esp: 0xbfffe150 ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00210202 eip: 0x12a535cc cs: 0x00000017 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037 cr2: 0x7361701c == -- I want a party where all the women wear new dresses and all the men drink beer. -- Jason Gaes From steve at paper-ape.com Fri Mar 7 17:04:50 2008 From: steve at paper-ape.com (steve harley) Date: Fri Mar 7 17:04:54 2008 Subject: Safari Crashes all the time In-Reply-To: <6D50B5AE-CF09-4ACE-9FB9-80D3A38BF796@kreme.com> References: <6D50B5AE-CF09-4ACE-9FB9-80D3A38BF796@kreme.com> Message-ID: <47D1E632.2050301@paper-ape.com> they whom i call LuKreme wrote: > Thread 0 Crashed: > 0 libPicLens.dylib 0x12a535cc 0x129bf000 + 607692 major clue there, try removing the PicLens plugin ... From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 7 20:04:12 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 7 20:04:16 2008 Subject: Safari Crashes all the time In-Reply-To: <47D1E632.2050301@paper-ape.com> References: <6D50B5AE-CF09-4ACE-9FB9-80D3A38BF796@kreme.com> <47D1E632.2050301@paper-ape.com> Message-ID: <70E76742-D74D-4A2C-80B8-7D563B887A12@kreme.com> On 7-Mar-2008, at 18:04, steve harley wrote: > they whom i call LuKreme wrote: >> Thread 0 Crashed: >> 0 libPicLens.dylib 0x12a535cc 0x129bf000 + 607692 > > major clue there, try removing the PicLens plugin ... This is weird, I couldn't find that plugin anywhere... It was in /Library/ Grrrr... -- Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you *think* before you break 'em. From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 21:36:57 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Fri Mar 7 21:36:59 2008 Subject: Extracting Audio from a DVD In-Reply-To: <19E73915-9B9C-43A4-830D-71CBE57F512F@kreme.com> References: <19E73915-9B9C-43A4-830D-71CBE57F512F@kreme.com> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0803072136h510be20bi5540d0768c381f2b@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:43 AM, LuKreme wrote: > I have a DVD (not copy protected non-commercial) that I want to > extract a portion of the audio and turn it into a stand-alone mp3 file. > > What's the easiest way to rip out the audio stream so I can, I dunno, > drop it on GarageBand and clip the part I want? A guide to doing this can be found here: http://www.jakeludington.com/ask_jake/20050216_export_dvd_audio_to_cd.html -- Best Regards, John Musbach From poetman13 at comcast.net Sat Mar 8 03:30:37 2008 From: poetman13 at comcast.net (Michael Nickerson) Date: Sat Mar 8 03:30:33 2008 Subject: Safari Crashes all the time In-Reply-To: <70E76742-D74D-4A2C-80B8-7D563B887A12@kreme.com> References: <6D50B5AE-CF09-4ACE-9FB9-80D3A38BF796@kreme.com> <47D1E632.2050301@paper-ape.com> <70E76742-D74D-4A2C-80B8-7D563B887A12@kreme.com> Message-ID: <5B7F84AE-D046-486F-8908-938A8C5045A2@comcast.net> On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:04 PM, LuKreme wrote: > On 7-Mar-2008, at 18:04, steve harley wrote: >> they whom i call LuKreme wrote: >>> Thread 0 Crashed: >>> 0 libPicLens.dylib 0x12a535cc 0x129bf000 + 607692 >> >> major clue there, try removing the PicLens plugin ... > > > This is weird, I couldn't find that plugin anywhere... > > It was in /Library/ Grrrr... > > As of Leopard, they *have* to be in /Library. Apple put some restrictions on InputManager plugins. Here's a short list of things that have to be met for them to actually load now: (Ignore that if it wasn't actually an InputManager plugin...) Darkshadow (aka Michael Nickerson) From r.o.durrer at durrer.org Sat Mar 8 05:50:20 2008 From: r.o.durrer at durrer.org (Rudolf O. Durrer) Date: Sat Mar 8 05:51:57 2008 Subject: Mail password keeps being forgotten... In-Reply-To: <925CB263-C380-45B0-B60E-82501D58BB96@durrer.org> References: <50E43810-D7E6-4EDB-BDBA-0A384B8E635C@agfa.com> <925CB263-C380-45B0-B60E-82501D58BB96@durrer.org> Message-ID: I have found the following: The plist file "com.apple.security.plist" has originally only one entry named "TimestampProgressTransformChunk" (Class: Number), the value (on my mac mini with TIGER 11.4) is "-791021250" For unknown reason, a second entry has been written in that Plist file (by ?????) named "DLDBSearchList" (Class: Array), but the array is empty (it has no child). BUT: it seems, that this entry blocks the application "Keychain Access.app" to read the users keychain, for whatever reason, I dont know... The result: neighter Mail.app nor other apps, which store passwords can read them anymore. (it appears, that storing still works, but why???). The solution: just delete the entry named "DLDBSearchList" in the "com.apple.security.plist" and all passwords reappear again. Rudolf Am 28.02.2008 um 16.17 schrieb Rudolf O. Durrer: > Thanks and best regards > Rudolf > Am 27.02.2008 um 23.30 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary: > >> Here it is ! >> >> JC >> >> >> On 26 f?vr. 08, at 21:29, peter.frings@agfa.com wrote: >> >>> >>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 09:25, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: >>> >>>> This started to happen a few days ago, I think after I used >>>> ServiceScrubber to change a few service shortcuts... Although >>>> the reason may be totally unrelated. snip...snip...snip From david at idiomatrix.com Sat Mar 8 07:05:35 2008 From: david at idiomatrix.com (David Herren) Date: Sat Mar 8 07:05:39 2008 Subject: Mail password keeps being forgotten... In-Reply-To: References: <50E43810-D7E6-4EDB-BDBA-0A384B8E635C@agfa.com> <925CB263-C380-45B0-B60E-82501D58BB96@durrer.org> Message-ID: <04DBCE95-A0D1-433B-9A6F-A0218F6291ED@idiomatrix.com> I don't find a "com.apple.security.plist" file anywhere on my machine... This was an encouraging clue even though my problem is exactly the opposite. My apps can _read_ existing passwords, but nothing new can be written to the keychain. On Mar 8, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Rudolf O. Durrer wrote: > The plist file "com.apple.security.plist" has originally only one > entry named "TimestampProgressTransformChunk" (Class: Number), the > value (on my mac mini with TIGER 11.4) is "-791021250" /david -- david herren-lage - shoreham, vt "We want to develop defenses that are capable of defending ourselves and defenses capable of defending others." -George W. Bush, Washington, DC, Mar 29, 2001 From dinse at niehs.nih.gov Sat Mar 8 08:52:22 2008 From: dinse at niehs.nih.gov (Gregg Dinse) Date: Sat Mar 8 08:52:38 2008 Subject: how to email a file from command line? Message-ID: <11A18392-5051-4886-88D6-74CBAEFCAA59@niehs.nih.gov> Hi, I know this is a dumb question, and I tried to figure it out from the man pages, but I had no luck. I am at home and I need to retrieve a Word document from my MacOSX machine at work. Suppose the file is called junk.doc and that dummy@company.com is my email address. I can ssh to my mac at work. Once I get there and cd to the correct directory, what command line instruction can I give to email junk.doc to myself as an attachment? I tried sending a test message by typing: mail dummy@company.com but I could not even figure out how to gracefully end the process. When I typed ^Z, it stopped, but nothing was mailed. Thanks in advance for any answers to this dumb question. Gregg From arno at alum.wpi.edu Sat Mar 8 08:58:45 2008 From: arno at alum.wpi.edu (Arno Hautala) Date: Sat Mar 8 08:58:51 2008 Subject: how to email a file from command line? In-Reply-To: <11A18392-5051-4886-88D6-74CBAEFCAA59@niehs.nih.gov> References: <11A18392-5051-4886-88D6-74CBAEFCAA59@niehs.nih.gov> Message-ID: On 08 Mar 2008, at 11:52, Gregg Dinse wrote: > Suppose the file is called junk.doc and that dummy@company.com is my > email address. I can ssh to my mac at work. If you can ssh to your home machine, you should be able to use scp to get the file. If the file is on your Desktop for example, you should be able to issue tho following to get the file: scp gregg@home:~/Desktop/junk.doc . That will copy the file to your current directory. If you're not using Mac OS X or unix there should be some sort of Windows app that should work. Just look for something with scp support. --Arno -- -- arno s. hautala /-\ arno@alum.wpi.edu -- -- From dinse at niehs.nih.gov Sat Mar 8 09:44:45 2008 From: dinse at niehs.nih.gov (Gregg Dinse) Date: Sat Mar 8 09:45:06 2008 Subject: how to email a file from command line? In-Reply-To: References: <11A18392-5051-4886-88D6-74CBAEFCAA59@niehs.nih.gov> Message-ID: <4877E241-82BE-473B-882F-B113946C402E@niehs.nih.gov> On Mar 8, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Arno Hautala wrote: > On 08 Mar 2008, at 11:52, Gregg Dinse wrote: > >> Suppose the file is called junk.doc and that dummy@company.com is >> my email address. I can ssh to my mac at work. > > If you can ssh to your home machine, you should be able to use scp > to get the file. > > If the file is on your Desktop for example, you should be able to > issue tho following to get the file: > > scp gregg@home:~/Desktop/junk.doc . > > That will copy the file to your current directory. If you're not > using Mac OS X or unix there should be some sort of Windows app that > should work. Just look for something with scp support. > > --Arno > > -- -- > arno s. hautala /-\ arno@alum.wpi.edu > -- -- Hi Arno, Thanks for the help. Gregg From r.o.durrer at durrer.org Sat Mar 8 10:41:49 2008 From: r.o.durrer at durrer.org (Rudolf O.Durrer) Date: Sat Mar 8 10:41:57 2008 Subject: Mail password keeps being forgotten... In-Reply-To: <04DBCE95-A0D1-433B-9A6F-A0218F6291ED@idiomatrix.com> References: <50E43810-D7E6-4EDB-BDBA-0A384B8E635C@agfa.com> <925CB263-C380-45B0-B60E-82501D58BB96@durrer.org> <04DBCE95-A0D1-433B-9A6F-A0218F6291ED@idiomatrix.com> Message-ID: <35CEEAF1-3B1B-4F20-A2C9-9E0C6C2552B2@durrer.org> Rergarding "com.apple.security.plist": I have a MacMini, with OSX 10.4.11 on one partition and 10.5.1 on another. On both partition I have that plist file. I can throw it away without that this seem to have any effects. Netinfo Manager.app and Keychain Access.app are at least two apps, that I have tested , who will create a new one, but I dont know, if there are any other apps or even the system itself, which also will create new ones. Read the password: My problem was, that Mail.app did not anymore "read" the password from chain, therefore asking me to enter it by hand. As far as I understood this thread, that was what also happened to you... (BTW, this happened indeed that day I used service srubber...:-) ) Write the password: I then subsequently typed in the password in mail and clicked "save to keychain". Now, indeed, it appeared that Mail.app seemed not to "write" the password to the chain: Opening mails preferences and controlling the accounts tab, no password was there. Rewriting the password in the accounts tab, saving the changes, reopening the accounts tab, and...njet, no password was there. Opening Keychain Access.app: no passwords where there at all!! Indeed, the COMPLETE user login.chain did not appear anymore, all things had gone. BUT: Once, I have corrected the above-mentioned plist file, the user login.chain showed up again in Keychain Access.app, mails the passwords showed up again in Mail.app, even those I have desperately tried to enter and then always vanished driving me crazy..... That means, that the passwords where written, even when the plist file was corrupted, only that I could not see it and mail.app could not read them back. Rudolf Am 08.03.2008 um 16.05 schrieb David Herren: > I don't find a "com.apple.security.plist" file anywhere on my > machine... > > This was an encouraging clue even though my problem is exactly the > opposite. My apps can _read_ existing passwords, but nothing new > can be written to the keychain. > snip..snip..snip ============== This mail is from: Rudolf O. Durrer 6060 Sarnen +41 79 441 00 11 From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Sat Mar 8 12:31:41 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Sat Mar 8 12:31:46 2008 Subject: how to email a file from command line? In-Reply-To: <11A18392-5051-4886-88D6-74CBAEFCAA59@niehs.nih.gov> References: <11A18392-5051-4886-88D6-74CBAEFCAA59@niehs.nih.gov> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0803081231u3ca9025el3f5a634e1b7048e7@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Gregg Dinse wrote: > Hi, > > I know this is a dumb question, and I tried to figure it out from the > man pages, but I had no luck. I am at home and I need to retrieve a > Word document from my MacOSX machine at work. Suppose the file is > called junk.doc and that dummy@company.com is my email address. I can > ssh to my mac at work. Once I get there and cd to the correct > directory, what command line instruction can I give to email junk.doc > to myself as an attachment? > > I tried sending a test message by typing: mail dummy@company.com > > but I could not even figure out how to gracefully end the process. > When I typed ^Z, it stopped, but nothing was mailed. Thanks in > advance for any answers to this dumb question. Hello, I think you'll find this document very helpful: http://www.shelldorado.com/articles/mailattachments.html -- Best Regards, John Musbach From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Sat Mar 8 18:16:04 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Sat Mar 8 18:16:07 2008 Subject: Time Capsule - accessing backup via Time Machine In-Reply-To: <23C726E3-2F6C-4316-904D-C97BC9505C49@mac.com> References: <23C726E3-2F6C-4316-904D-C97BC9505C49@mac.com> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0803081816s1a85e9fcu4e1518558e2a0b68@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > If I haven't accessed Time Machine in a while, there's a 15 seconds > delay for TM to get the drive up and running (sleep mode?). Then, > once I'm in Time Machine, I can't click CANCEL to change search > parameters or exit. The cancel button is unresponsive .. for up to 30 > seconds or so. After Cancel has been activated and I'm brought back > to my desktop, my Dock disappears and I see a spinning pinwheel. > Eventually, my desktop comes back to life. Is this the Finder having > difficulty with a drive that it's mounting ? or a drive that hasn't > fully spun up ? or ? This is probably expected when a drive mounted over a ethernet connection has to spinup, mac os x likes to lockup while waiting for network mounts to respond -- Best Regards, John Musbach From kremels at kreme.com Sun Mar 9 01:55:27 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sun Mar 9 01:55:30 2008 Subject: Mail password keeps being forgotten... In-Reply-To: <04DBCE95-A0D1-433B-9A6F-A0218F6291ED@idiomatrix.com> References: <50E43810-D7E6-4EDB-BDBA-0A384B8E635C@agfa.com> <925CB263-C380-45B0-B60E-82501D58BB96@durrer.org> <04DBCE95-A0D1-433B-9A6F-A0218F6291ED@idiomatrix.com> Message-ID: <0C73520D-E8BE-47E0-A37D-E19B55DD7E76@kreme.com> On 8-Mar-2008, at 08:05, David Herren wrote: > I don't find a "com.apple.security.plist" file anywhere on my > machine... How are you looking? ~ $ ls -ls Library/Preferences/com.apple.security* 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 kreme kreme 190 Nov 18 2006 Library/Preferences/ com.apple.security.certreq.plist 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 kreme kreme 2089 Jan 17 08:49 Library/Preferences/ com.apple.security.plist 8 -rw------- 1 kreme kreme 164 Nov 2 08:19 Library/Preferences/ com.apple.security.revocation.plist Mine starts like this: DLDBSearchList DbName /Library/Keychains/FileVaultMaster.keychain GUID {stuff} SubserviceType 6 This last block is repeated 6 more times for various keychain file, and then there is a top level key for the default keychain. The oddball (all others are SubServiceType 6 and have a DbName) is DbName GUID {stuff} SubserviceType 4 -- ...gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, From kremels at kreme.com Sun Mar 9 01:58:25 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sun Mar 9 01:58:28 2008 Subject: Terminal.app Message-ID: <342C1048-D288-458E-83A4-2B7E8B5B13E8@kreme.com> Sigh. I'm getting to the point where I think a reboot might be in order. Terminal.app hangs on launch. It never crashes, it just sits there. Nothing shows up in the Console "All Messages" until I force quit it. 09-Mar-08 03:38:08 com.apple.launchd[368] ([0x0-0x338b287f].com.apple.Terminal[3208]) Exited: Terminated This started when I was trying to port upgrade installed (or something like that). I took a sample of it, but I don't understand it. This is with defaults (10s/1ms) Analysis of sampling Terminal (pid 3634) every 1 millisecond Call graph: 8306 Thread_2503 8306 0x4102e 8306 NSApplicationMain 8306 -[NSApplication run] 8306 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] 8306 _DPSNextEvent 8306 AEProcessAppleEvent 8306 aeProcessAppleEvent 8306 dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) 8306 aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) 8306 _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler 8306 -[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] 8306 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] 8306 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleAEOpen:] 8306 -[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] 8306 -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] 8306 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:] 8306 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] 8306 _CFXNotificationPostNotification 8306 __CFXNotificationPost 8306 _nsnote_callback 8306 0x32c9 8306 0x5d7f 8306 0x5ebd 8306 0x70c2 8306 0x71b8 8306 0x761f 8306 0x9036 8306 forkpty 8306 openpty 8236 ioctl 8236 ioctl 70 _sysenter_trap 70 _sysenter_trap 8306 Thread_2603 8306 thread_start 8306 _pthread_start 8306 __NSThread__main__ 8306 -[NSThread main] 8306 read$UNIX2003 8306 read$UNIX2003 Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5): Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5): read$UNIX2003 8306 ioctl 8236 _sysenter_trap 70 -- You try to shape the world to what you want the world to be. Carving your name a thousand times won't bring you back to me. Oh no, no I might as well go and tell it to the trees. Go and tell it to the trees, yeah. From kremels at kreme.com Sun Mar 9 04:03:29 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sun Mar 9 04:03:32 2008 Subject: how to email a file from command line? In-Reply-To: <11A18392-5051-4886-88D6-74CBAEFCAA59@niehs.nih.gov> References: <11A18392-5051-4886-88D6-74CBAEFCAA59@niehs.nih.gov> Message-ID: <9214DD55-3529-4838-9D1D-C1E9ED5A1549@kreme.com> On 8-Mar-2008, at 09:52, Gregg Dinse wrote: > I know this is a dumb question, and I tried to figure it out from > the man pages, but I had no luck. I am at home and I need to > retrieve a Word document from my MacOSX machine at work. Suppose > the file is called junk.doc and thatdummy@company.com is my email > address. I can ssh to my mac at work. Once I get there and cd to > the correct directory, what command line instruction can I give to > email junk.doc to myself as an attachment? Unless the postfix mail service on your machine is enabled and setup, you will probably need an Applescript (via osascript) or a CLI mail client to do this, or you will need to look into using the sendmail command, which I think can be configured to use a SMTP server for outbound relaying. > I tried sending a test message by typing: mail dummy@company.com > but I could not even figure out how to gracefully end the process. > When I typed ^Z, it stopped, but nothing was mailed. Thanks in > advance for any answers to this dumb question. OK. First issue is actually SENDING the mail. Page down for the second issue. ^Z is 'suspend' so all you did was background the process. The default way out of a interactive mail window is ^D or a '.' on a line by itself. You can also type a '~v' on a line by itself and get a vi window or '~e' to get your default CLI editor. I just did a test from the CLI: Mar 9 04:21:36 cerebus postfix/master[4380]: daemon started -- version 2.4.3, configuration /etc/postfix Mar 9 04:21:36 cerebus postfix/pickup[4381]: 7ADBF6D189C5: uid=501 from= Mar 9 04:21:36 cerebus postfix/cleanup[4383]: 7ADBF6D189C5: message- id=<20080309102136.7ADBF6D189C5@cerebus.local> Mar 9 04:21:36 cerebus postfix/qmgr[4382]: 7ADBF6D189C5: from=, size=307, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Mar 9 04:21:36 cerebus postfix/smtp[4385]: 7ADBF6D189C5: to=, relay=mail.covisp.net[64.140.43.68]:25, delay=0.41, delays=0.05/0.03/0.21/0.11, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok: queued as D8056118AD34) Mar 9 04:21:36 cerebus postfix/qmgr[4382]: 7ADBF6D189C5: removed and on the remote mailserver Mar 9 04:21:36 akane postfix/qmgr[1052]: D8056118AD34: from=, size=512, nrcpt=1 (queue active) So it appears that in Leopard, mail from the command-line knows to do the right thing (startup postfix's queue and send the mail), BUT keep in mind that my remote server only accepted the message because it knows my IP address. This is what happened when I tried to sent to mac.com or gmail.com: Mar 9 04:25:19 cerebus postfix/qmgr[4445]: 273666D18FBF: from=, size=331, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Mar 9 04:25:19 cerebus postfix/smtp[4448]: 273666D18FBF: to=<*munged*@mac.com >, relay=smtp-mx1.mac.com[17.148.20.64]:25, delay=0.8, delays=0.08/0.01/0.62/0.09, dsn=5.1.8, status=bounced (host smtp- mx1.mac.com[17.148.20.64] said: 553 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address kreme@cerebus.local does not exist (in reply to MAIL FROM command)) So, while Leopard is now smart enough to start postfix and send, it doesn't have the SMTP setting from mail.app so that your message will actually go out. I *BELIEVE* this is possible to do on the command line using the 'sendmail' command and that there is a way to specify the SMTP server you want to use, but my quick look at man sendmail(1) didn't discover it. Probably the easiest thing to do is edit /etc/postfix/main.cf and add relayhost = mail.smtpserver.tld in the right section (search for relayhost) If you are an admin on your machine at work, you can use $ sudo nano /etc/postfix/main.cf Then type ^W to search, and type relayhost That will take you to the right area. Just use the arrow keys to move down after the last commented line and put in your own relayhost there. ^X and 'Y' to exit and save and you should then be able to type mail < file And that brings us to our second issue... That email will not work for anything but a plain text file. Without a real mail client like mutt, you will have to encode the file yourself before trying to send it or you will get gibberish. If the 'file' is a bundle, you will need to first tar it, then encode it. $ uuencode Pictures/Desktops/Irony.jpg Irony.jpg | mail kreme@kreme.com $ tar xzf myfile.tgz myfile.bundle $ uuencode myfile.tgz Myfile.tgz | mail kreme@kreme.com Note that uuencode requires TWO args, the path to the file, and the filnename you want to embed in the uuendcode. So, it's all possible from the command line. For my money, what I would do is port install mutt and set it up. -- A man, in a word, who should never have been taught to write and whom, if unhappily gifted with that ability, should have been restrained by an Act of Parliment from writing Reminiscences. - PG Wodehouse From kremels at kreme.com Sun Mar 9 04:12:06 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sun Mar 9 04:12:10 2008 Subject: Issue with Text to Speech Message-ID: <3A2C5A86-9E23-45E3-A7F4-BF5284B44720@kreme.com> Before sending a message in another thread, I used the "start peaking text" on a block like this: You can also type a '~v' on a line by itself and get a vi window or '~e' to get your default CLI editor. and ^X and 'Y' to exit and save and you should then be able to type But OS X didn't speak it as I expected, it 'discarded the '~' character and the ^ character. Makes me think anyone who NEEDS text to speech and is trying to use it to speak instructions is going to be very confused about 'X and Y to exit and save' instead of, what I would have liked to hear, 'Control X and Control Y to ..." Am I missing something? -- Can I tell you the truth? I mean this isn?t like TV news, is it? From list-omnigroup at fsck.net Sun Mar 9 14:40:17 2008 From: list-omnigroup at fsck.net (Eugene) Date: Sun Mar 9 14:40:23 2008 Subject: Terminal.app In-Reply-To: <342C1048-D288-458E-83A4-2B7E8B5B13E8@kreme.com> References: <342C1048-D288-458E-83A4-2B7E8B5B13E8@kreme.com> Message-ID: <20080309214017.GA422@Macintosh-2.local> Besides the usual wiping of ~/Library/Application Support/Terminal/* and ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Terminal.plist, have you checked your login scripts to see if they are invoking something goofy? The AEProcessAppleEvent invocation... AppleScript? On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 04:58:25AM CDT, LuKreme wrote: > > Sigh. I'm getting to the point where I think a reboot might be in order. > > Terminal.app hangs on launch. It never crashes, it just sits there. > Nothing shows up in the Console "All Messages" until I force quit it. > > 09-Mar-08 03:38:08 com.apple.launchd[368] > ([0x0-0x338b287f].com.apple.Terminal[3208]) Exited: Terminated > > This started when I was trying to port upgrade installed (or something like > that). > > I took a sample of it, but I don't understand it. This is with defaults > (10s/1ms) > > Analysis of sampling Terminal (pid 3634) every 1 millisecond > Call graph: > 8306 Thread_2503 > 8306 0x4102e > 8306 NSApplicationMain > 8306 -[NSApplication run] > 8306 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] > 8306 _DPSNextEvent > 8306 AEProcessAppleEvent > 8306 aeProcessAppleEvent > 8306 dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) > 8306 aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, > unsigned char*) > 8306 _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler > 8306 -[NSAppleEventManager > dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] > 8306 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) > _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] > 8306 -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleAEOpen:] > 8306 -[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] > 8306 -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] > 8306 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:] > 8306 -[NSNotificationCenter > postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] > 8306 _CFXNotificationPostNotification > 8306 __CFXNotificationPost > 8306 _nsnote_callback > 8306 0x32c9 > 8306 0x5d7f > 8306 0x5ebd > 8306 0x70c2 > 8306 0x71b8 > 8306 0x761f > 8306 0x9036 > 8306 forkpty > 8306 openpty > 8236 ioctl > 8236 ioctl > 70 _sysenter_trap > 70 _sysenter_trap > 8306 Thread_2603 > 8306 thread_start > 8306 _pthread_start > 8306 __NSThread__main__ > 8306 -[NSThread main] > 8306 read$UNIX2003 > 8306 read$UNIX2003 > > Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5): > > Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5): > read$UNIX2003 8306 > ioctl 8236 > _sysenter_trap 70 -- Eugene http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ From kremels at kreme.com Sun Mar 9 23:42:26 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sun Mar 9 23:42:29 2008 Subject: Terminal.app In-Reply-To: <20080309214017.GA422@Macintosh-2.local> References: <342C1048-D288-458E-83A4-2B7E8B5B13E8@kreme.com> <20080309214017.GA422@Macintosh-2.local> Message-ID: <839A0289-D43E-4B2E-8290-FCA27672D983@kreme.com> On 9-Mar-2008, at 15:40, Eugene wrote: > Besides the usual wiping of ~/Library/Application Support/Terminal/* > and ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Terminal.plist, have you checked > your login scripts to see if they are invoking something goofy? The > AEProcessAppleEvent invocation... AppleScript? I've removed preferences, but not the application support file (default.term) because, frankly, I forgot it existed. That seems to have sorted it, thanks. (well, as long as I don't try to open a third tab :/) (and no, I don't have any login scripts, the file must have just been corrupt) -- If I were you boys, I wouldn't talk or even think about women. T'aint good for your health. From bcwolven at jhu.edu Mon Mar 10 07:46:07 2008 From: bcwolven at jhu.edu (Brian Wolven) Date: Mon Mar 10 07:46:21 2008 Subject: Terminal.app In-Reply-To: <839A0289-D43E-4B2E-8290-FCA27672D983@kreme.com> References: <342C1048-D288-458E-83A4-2B7E8B5B13E8@kreme.com> <20080309214017.GA422@Macintosh-2.local> <839A0289-D43E-4B2E-8290-FCA27672D983@kreme.com> Message-ID: LuKreme wrote: > On 9-Mar-2008, at 15:40, Eugene wrote: >> Besides the usual wiping of ~/Library/Application Support/Terminal/* >> and ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Terminal.plist, have you checked >> your login scripts to see if they are invoking something goofy? The >> AEProcessAppleEvent invocation... AppleScript? > > > I've removed preferences, but not the application support file > (default.term) because, frankly, I forgot it existed. > > That seems to have sorted it, thanks. (well, as long as I don't try to > open a third tab :/) > > (and no, I don't have any login scripts, the file must have just been > corrupt) I had issues with terminal like this a while back; opening up ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Terminal.plist, I found that an entry entitled "ExecutionString" contained instructions to cd to a particular directory, probably left there by an applescript that I run as a finder extension (opens terminal in the directory you are currently viewing). In the event that that directory no longer exists, well... problems happen. Deleting the contents of that entry solved the problem. From markds.lists at googlemail.com Mon Mar 10 15:35:14 2008 From: markds.lists at googlemail.com (Mark Smith) Date: Mon Mar 10 15:35:22 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro Message-ID: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> I'm considering purchasing a Mac Pro and am wondering whether I can use drives in its internal bays as time machine volumes for portables on the WLAN if the Pro is hardwired (Gigabit Enet) to the WLAN router ? mark. From neil at laubenthal.net Mon Mar 10 16:12:00 2008 From: neil at laubenthal.net (Neil Laubenthal) Date: Mon Mar 10 16:24:08 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> Message-ID: As long as it's running Leopard you can. When backing up to a network drive . . . Time Machine uses sparse disk image files instead of normal Finder readable files and folders . . .the files/folders are contained inside the disk images. They mount and dismount transparently when TM runs. On Mar 10, 2008, at 18:35, Mark Smith wrote: > > I'm considering purchasing a Mac Pro and am wondering whether I can > use drives in its internal bays as time machine volumes for > portables on the WLAN if the Pro is hardwired (Gigabit Enet) to the > WLAN router ? > From kcall at mac.com Mon Mar 10 23:01:13 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Mon Mar 10 23:01:17 2008 Subject: Apple store being updated ? Message-ID: <076A1FDC-E9A5-494B-BAB9-3EB1C05E6ABD@mac.com> 11 PM PST "We'll be back soon" ! K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /mailman/archive/macosx-talk/attachments/20080310/6ff59d40/attachment.html From markds.lists at googlemail.com Tue Mar 11 04:12:08 2008 From: markds.lists at googlemail.com (Mark Smith) Date: Tue Mar 11 04:12:19 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> > On Mar 10, 2008, at 18:35, I wrote: > >> I'm considering purchasing a Mac Pro and am wondering whether I can >> use drives in its internal bays as time machine volumes for >> portables on the WLAN if the Pro is hardwired (Gigabit Enet) to the >> WLAN router ? On 11.03.2008, at 00:12, Neil Laubenthal wrote: > As long as it's running Leopard you can. When backing up to a > network drive . . . Time Machine uses sparse disk image files > instead of normal Finder readable files and folders . . .the files/ > folders are contained inside the disk images. They mount and > dismount transparently when TM runs. and On 11.03.2008, at 00:42, Erik J. Barzeski wrote: > I don't think you can, no. Not in a supported fashion. Neil says yes and Eric says no. Now I'm looking for a third opinion. (The question I'm pondering is whether to take an additional drive in the Pro to use for TM, or to spend that money on a Time Capsule.) From tonyc at boldfish.co.uk Tue Mar 11 04:23:12 2008 From: tonyc at boldfish.co.uk (Tony Crockford) Date: Tue Mar 11 04:24:03 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11 Mar 2008, at 11:12, Mark Smith wrote: > > (The question I'm pondering is whether to take an additional drive > in the Pro to use for TM, or to spend that money on a Time Capsule.) This implies that you can't back up to a wireless network drive: http://www.macworld.com/article/132299/2008/02/airportbackup.html I am using an internal drive on my Pro for Time machine for the Pro, but can't comment on backing up WiFi connected devices to it as I don't have any. sorry, not much help From arno at alum.wpi.edu Tue Mar 11 04:37:44 2008 From: arno at alum.wpi.edu (Arno Hautala) Date: Tue Mar 11 04:37:49 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <85F6B040-2D2E-46F3-BA92-D49110B6FE3E@alum.wpi.edu> On 11 Mar 2008, at 07:12, Mark Smith wrote: >> On Mar 10, 2008, at 18:35, I wrote: >> >>> I'm considering purchasing a Mac Pro and am wondering whether I >>> can use drives in its internal bays as time machine volumes for >>> portables on the WLAN if the Pro is hardwired (Gigabit Enet) to >>> the WLAN router ? > > On 11.03.2008, at 00:12, Neil Laubenthal wrote: > >> As long as it's running Leopard you can. When backing up to a >> network drive . . . Time Machine uses sparse disk image files >> instead of normal Finder readable files and folders . . .the files/ >> folders are contained inside the disk images. They mount and >> dismount transparently when TM runs. > > > and On 11.03.2008, at 00:42, Erik J. Barzeski wrote: > >> I don't think you can, no. Not in a supported fashion. > > > Neil says yes and Eric says no. Now I'm looking for a third opinion. > > (The question I'm pondering is whether to take an additional drive > in the Pro to use for TM, or to spend that money on a Time Capsule.) http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/timemachine.html "Pick a disk. Any disk. You can designate just about any HFS+ formatted FireWire or USB drive connected to a Mac as a Time Machine backup drive. Time Machine can also back up to another Mac running Leopard with Personal File Sharing, Leopard Server, or Xsan storage devices." Your money will probably go further on an additional internal drive. --Arno -- -- arno s. hautala /-\ arno@alum.wpi.edu -- -- From markds.lists at googlemail.com Tue Mar 11 05:25:32 2008 From: markds.lists at googlemail.com (Mark Smith) Date: Tue Mar 11 05:25:44 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5E0B122E-ABD7-47F9-AEA5-8117B23177D8@gmail.com> On 11.03.2008, at 12:23, Tony Crockford wrote: > > On 11 Mar 2008, at 11:12, Mark Smith wrote: >> >> (The question I'm pondering is whether to take an additional drive >> in the Pro to use for TM, or to spend that money on a Time Capsule.) > > > This implies that you can't back up to a wireless network drive: > http://www.macworld.com/article/132299/2008/02/airportbackup.html Right. This is the feature that disappeared during the beta-cycle of Leopard. (In my short experience it was unreliable - I had some problems with Aperture referenced image files on an "airdisk". (Interestingly I could use Lightroom to "fix" image files that were choking Finder, Preview and Aperture, but that's another story.)) With the advent of Time Capsule, it looks like Apple has got this working reliably and I'm wondering whether disks on Macs tethered by Ethernet to an 802.11n Base Station might appear to WLAN clients like a TimeCapsule. I have a suspicion that this might work, since: (a) I have read reports that one can tether additional disks to a Time Capsule and they also appear to WLAN clients as potential TM volumes and (b) NAS works (which makes me think that the "problem" *might* have been associated with the USB interface) ...but this is speculation and it has to work out of the box: If I need a Time Capsule then I have to skip a disk on the Pro. (Though I could partly fund one by selling my current router.) > I am using an internal drive on my Pro for Time machine for the Pro, > but can't comment on backing up WiFi connected devices to it as I > don't have any. You could invite a friend with an Apple Portable over to test it though. There's a $RefreshmentOfChoice$ in it for you (or for anyone else who tests this^[1] and reports back today) (: Mark. [1]: Current MacPro w/ 10.5.2 connected via ethernet to 802.11n APBS and a mac portable w/ 802.11n and 10.5.2 - does Time Machine see [a] volume[s] on the Pro as potential targets ? From balhoff at mac.com Tue Mar 11 08:20:19 2008 From: balhoff at mac.com (Jim Balhoff) Date: Tue Mar 11 08:20:55 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Mark Smith wrote: > >> On Mar 10, 2008, at 18:35, I wrote: >> >>> I'm considering purchasing a Mac Pro and am wondering whether I >>> can use drives in its internal bays as time machine volumes for >>> portables on the WLAN if the Pro is hardwired (Gigabit Enet) to >>> the WLAN router ? > > On 11.03.2008, at 00:12, Neil Laubenthal wrote: > >> As long as it's running Leopard you can. When backing up to a >> network drive . . . Time Machine uses sparse disk image files >> instead of normal Finder readable files and folders . . .the files/ >> folders are contained inside the disk images. They mount and >> dismount transparently when TM runs. > > > and On 11.03.2008, at 00:42, Erik J. Barzeski wrote: > >> I don't think you can, no. Not in a supported fashion. > > > Neil says yes and Eric says no. Now I'm looking for a third opinion. > > (The question I'm pondering is whether to take an additional drive > in the Pro to use for TM, or to spend that money on a Time Capsule.) It works fine, and as far as I can see it's supported. I back up two laptops over a wireless network to a shared drive in a desktop. The backup for each laptop is stored in a sparse image on the shared drive. All machines should be running Leopard. Thanks, Jim From jearle at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 08:38:23 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Tue Mar 11 08:38:26 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60803110838p64dc9411vc503d29e99fde7a6@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Jim Balhoff wrote: > It works fine, and as far as I can see it's supported. I back up two > laptops over a wireless network to a shared drive in a desktop. The > backup for each laptop is stored in a sparse image on the shared > drive. All machines should be running Leopard. > Same here. Works fine backing up 2 MacBooks to a G5 hosting 1TB of drives over afp. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net The Spodcast :: http://spodcast.org From rogerhoward at rogerroger.org Tue Mar 11 08:36:37 2008 From: rogerhoward at rogerroger.org (Roger Howard) Date: Tue Mar 11 08:57:17 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <5E0B122E-ABD7-47F9-AEA5-8117B23177D8@gmail.com> References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> <5E0B122E-ABD7-47F9-AEA5-8117B23177D8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D6A705.7010903@rogerroger.org> I don't know if it's supported, but I backup our laptops (2 Macbooks and a Macbook Pro) via wifi to storage sitting on an old Quicksilver G4 running Leopard Client. I did the first backup via gig-e (the first one's a doozy as they say) but since then it's been working fine via wifi. -R From markds.lists at googlemail.com Tue Mar 11 09:27:51 2008 From: markds.lists at googlemail.com (Mark Smith) Date: Tue Mar 11 09:28:30 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11.03.2008, at 16:20, Jim Balhoff wrote: > It works fine, and as far as I can see it's supported. I back up > two laptops over a wireless network to a shared drive in a desktop. > The backup for each laptop is stored in a sparse image on the shared > drive. All machines should be running Leopard. On 11.03.2008, at 16:36, Roger Howard wrote: > I don't know if it's supported, but I backup our laptops (2 Macbooks > and a Macbook Pro) via wifi to storage sitting on an old Quicksilver > G4 running Leopard Client. I did the first backup via gig-e (the > first one's a doozy as they say) but since then it's been working > fine via wifi. On 11.03.2008, at 16:38, Jared Earle wrote: > Same here. Works fine backing up 2 MacBooks to a G5 hosting 1TB of > drives over afp. Excellent. I rather thought it might work and now I'm convinced. That's 3 $refreshment$s already. Offer now closed. (who keep's the tab here ?) mark. From neil at laubenthal.net Tue Mar 11 15:29:46 2008 From: neil at laubenthal.net (Neil Laubenthal) Date: Tue Mar 11 15:30:02 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <036B718D-01DB-481A-8B6C-E436590F09AE@laubenthal.net> Neil's right:-) It's right on Apple's page regarding Time Machine . . . http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/timemachine.html Pick a disk. Any disk. You can designate just about any HFS+ formatted FireWire or USB drive connected to a Mac as a Time Machine backup drive. Time Machine can also back up to another Mac running Leopard with Personal File Sharing, Leopard Server, or Xsan storage devices. On Mar 11, 2008, at 07:12, Mark Smith wrote: > >> On Mar 10, 2008, at 18:35, I wrote: >> >>> I'm considering purchasing a Mac Pro and am wondering whether I >>> can use drives in its internal bays as time machine volumes for >>> portables on the WLAN if the Pro is hardwired (Gigabit Enet) to >>> the WLAN router ? > > On 11.03.2008, at 00:12, Neil Laubenthal wrote: > >> As long as it's running Leopard you can. When backing up to a >> network drive . . . Time Machine uses sparse disk image files >> instead of normal Finder readable files and folders . . .the files/ >> folders are contained inside the disk images. They mount and >> dismount transparently when TM runs. > > > and On 11.03.2008, at 00:42, Erik J. Barzeski wrote: > >> I don't think you can, no. Not in a supported fashion. > > > Neil says yes and Eric says no. Now I'm looking for a third opinion. > > (The question I'm pondering is whether to take an additional drive > in the Pro to use for TM, or to spend that money on a Time Capsule.) > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-talk mailing list > MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 15:50:18 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Tue Mar 11 15:50:29 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0803111550w2c9e79a9i585286b6bd8fe19@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Mark Smith wrote: > Neil says yes and Eric says no. Now I'm looking for a third opinion. > > (The question I'm pondering is whether to take an additional drive in > the Pro to use for TM, or to spend that money on a Time Capsule.) Yes you can backup to a network volume -- Best Regards, John Musbach From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 16:01:28 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Tue Mar 11 16:01:31 2008 Subject: Apple store being updated ? In-Reply-To: <076A1FDC-E9A5-494B-BAB9-3EB1C05E6ABD@mac.com> References: <076A1FDC-E9A5-494B-BAB9-3EB1C05E6ABD@mac.com> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0803111601n60bede09wae912f5e8013595b@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > > > > 11 PM PST > > "We'll be back soon" ! So, what was the update all about? :D -- Best Regards, John Musbach From kremels at kreme.com Wed Mar 12 12:02:59 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Wed Mar 12 12:03:02 2008 Subject: Time Machine volumes in Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> References: <04E43F3F-5E31-4B2D-9288-26BDFE2A948A@gmail.com> <7F5BC5F5-7E74-4D64-B844-6D7D00364ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <92698013-020C-46F8-ABD4-FB09267CE75E@kreme.com> On 11-Mar-2008, at 05:12, Mark Smith wrote: >> On Mar 10, 2008, at 18:35, I wrote: >>> I'm considering purchasing a Mac Pro and am wondering whether I >>> can use drives in its internal bays as time machine volumes for >>> portables on the WLAN if the Pro is hardwired (Gigabit Enet) to >>> the WLAN router ? > > On 11.03.2008, at 00:12, Neil Laubenthal wrote: > >> As long as it's running Leopard you can. When backing up to a >> network drive . . . Time Machine uses sparse disk image files >> instead of normal Finder readable files and folders . . .the files/ >> folders are contained inside the disk images. They mount and >> dismount transparently when TM runs. > > > and On 11.03.2008, at 00:42, Erik J. Barzeski wrote: > >> I don't think you can, no. Not in a supported fashion. > > > Neil says yes and Eric says no. Now I'm looking for a third opinion. Neil is right, Eric is wrong. Or Eric misunderstood the phrasing of your question. Yes, you can use drives on your MacPro to backup other leopard machines from your LAN. > (The question I'm pondering is whether to take an additional drive > in the Pro to use for TM, or to spend that money on a Time Capsule.) Do you want a gigabit switch with a 802.11n router? If so, get the Time Capsule. > -- And now, the rest of the story -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2417 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/macosx-talk/attachments/20080312/74130865/smime.bin From andrew.brown at c18.net Fri Mar 14 08:13:58 2008 From: andrew.brown at c18.net (Andrew Brown) Date: Fri Mar 14 08:14:04 2008 Subject: MBP blues Message-ID: <8C46B2D6-85D0-4566-921C-FA5542C8B07E@c18.net> I ordered a new MBP a short while back, and it arrived the day after the announcement of the new improved faster brighter model. My supplier has sent messages to Apple Switzerland, all of which have been ignored, and he suggests that I ring them up. He has paid for the machine. What is the best way to touch their stony hearts ? I could threaten to go PC, but threats need to be plausible to be effective. I don't go much for amateur dramatics, so tears are out of the question. My supplier says I should aim either for a swap, or for a hefty reduction, either would be nice. AB From psarge at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 08:43:05 2008 From: psarge at gmail.com (Paul Sargent) Date: Fri Mar 14 08:43:17 2008 Subject: MBP blues In-Reply-To: <8C46B2D6-85D0-4566-921C-FA5542C8B07E@c18.net> References: <8C46B2D6-85D0-4566-921C-FA5542C8B07E@c18.net> Message-ID: On 14 Mar 2008, at 15:13, Andrew Brown wrote: > I ordered a new MBP a short while back, and it arrived the day after > the announcement of the new improved faster brighter model. First thing, this update didn't really bring much in performance (and in some cases a performance drop), so you could just not worry about it. http://www.primatelabs.ca/blog/2008/03/macbook-performance-march-2008/ > What is the best way to touch their stony hearts ? I could threaten > to go PC, but threats need to be plausible to be effective. Actually I tend to think threats like that are met with apathy. You: I've just bought a MacBook Pro, and unless I get the new version I'll go PC. Them: Go on then, spend another $2000 and stop calling us. The threat doesn't make sense. Personally I'd call them up, explain the situation, explain you're unhappy and see if they can do anything, but if not get on with your life and enjoy your machine. Paul From steve at paper-ape.com Fri Mar 14 10:45:05 2008 From: steve at paper-ape.com (steve harley) Date: Fri Mar 14 10:45:14 2008 Subject: MBP blues In-Reply-To: References: <8C46B2D6-85D0-4566-921C-FA5542C8B07E@c18.net> Message-ID: <47DAB9A1.30405@paper-ape.com> they whom i call Paul Sargent wrote: > First thing, this update didn't really bring much in performance (and in > some cases a performance drop), so you could just not worry about it. > > http://www.primatelabs.ca/blog/2008/03/macbook-performance-march-2008/ that test is for MacBooks, but there's another test on the same site that covers MacBooks Pro: since the new base model is measured against the old mid-range model, price/performance has improved unless (as noted in the comments) you get a close-out price on the old model; they also point out the possible improved battery life with the new processor (anyone seen a definitive test of this?) From gregor.alessi at mac.com Mon Mar 17 01:29:10 2008 From: gregor.alessi at mac.com (Gregor Alessi) Date: Mon Mar 17 01:30:54 2008 Subject: iSync and Sanyo Katana mobile phone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94DD60E7-56B3-4827-A4AB-721C351069F9@mac.com> Hi Robert On 05.03.2008, at 04:16, Robert La Ferla wrote: > Anyone know of an iSync plug-in for the Sanyo Katana 6600 phone? > Or something similar that can be hacked to work with it? I found this a few days ago for my SE w910i. Loef kindly posted the source on his website. It doesn't seem like a big deal to adapt another phone, from a first glance at the files: http://blog.alternating.net/?page_id=109 --greg From kcall at mac.com Mon Mar 17 23:33:46 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Mon Mar 17 23:33:51 2008 Subject: Leopard Mail and Exchange server Message-ID: <74D72AF4-1AB1-43AE-97EE-A64B9101218F@mac.com> A friend just bought a new MBPro 17 (first mac) - and she needs to talk to her Exchange server. Is Mail safe to use (assuming we can get it set up with her server), or must she use Entourage? She bought the Home edition of Office for 149, doesn't want to spend 400-500 on the Pro edition(s) just to get access to the Exchange server. If she has to resort to using webmail (OWA), what browser is the most reliable? Safari? Firefox ? Thanks, K From jearle at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 02:38:55 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Tue Mar 18 02:38:58 2008 Subject: Leopard Mail and Exchange server In-Reply-To: <74D72AF4-1AB1-43AE-97EE-A64B9101218F@mac.com> References: <74D72AF4-1AB1-43AE-97EE-A64B9101218F@mac.com> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60803180238y5c078c71pd7524681d608b441@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > A friend just bought a new MBPro 17 (first mac) - and she needs to > talk to her Exchange server. > > Is Mail safe to use (assuming we can get it set up with her server), > or must she use Entourage? That's only half the question, I'm afraid. Yes, Mail.app will work well as an IMAP client, getting the mail from the Exchange server. However, is that what she needs? Exchange has a whole lot more to it, as evidenced by the ActiveSync presentation for the iPhone. If she just needs mail, it'll do a great job (as long as IMAP is active on the Exchange server) at that. If she needs contacts, appointments, etc., you'll need to dig deeper into her needs. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net The Spodcast :: http://spodcast.org From chad at objectwerks.com Wed Mar 19 10:29:43 2008 From: chad at objectwerks.com (objectwerks inc) Date: Wed Mar 19 10:29:45 2008 Subject: iCal spam Message-ID: Anyone else start seeing spam show up in iCal? It appears that the mere reading? of an email with an iCal appointment in it will add it to iCal without any sort of confirmation. I do not read the spam but collect them in a spam folder. Sometimes I get a false positive, which I click on and delete and Mail.app will automatically "read" the next email in the spam folder when that happens. I assume that is where these are coming from. Chad From bentley at crenelle.com Wed Mar 19 10:50:59 2008 From: bentley at crenelle.com (Michael Brian Bentley) Date: Wed Mar 19 10:51:12 2008 Subject: Leopard Mail and Exchange server In-Reply-To: <5bbc0cd60803180238y5c078c71pd7524681d608b441@mail.gmail.com> References: <74D72AF4-1AB1-43AE-97EE-A64B9101218F@mac.com> <5bbc0cd60803180238y5c078c71pd7524681d608b441@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I haven't done anything yet about handling calendar stuff with my current email situation in transition. However, other folks use these things. -Mike http://www.snerdware.com/ "Groupcal 3" rumored to be very buggy. http://www.nhoj.co.uk/youreinvited/ mail.app <-> iCal http://www.nhoj.co.uk/icalreplychecker/ From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 21 02:21:37 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 21 02:21:42 2008 Subject: Leopard Mail and Exchange server In-Reply-To: <74D72AF4-1AB1-43AE-97EE-A64B9101218F@mac.com> References: <74D72AF4-1AB1-43AE-97EE-A64B9101218F@mac.com> Message-ID: <8AC35868-02E4-4342-9EED-632050960C69@kreme.com> On 18-Mar-2008, at 00:33, Kevin Callahan wrote: > A friend just bought a new MBPro 17 (first mac) - and she needs to > talk to her Exchange server. > > Is Mail safe to use (assuming we can get it set up with her server), > or must she use Entourage? Erm. Not sure what safe to use means. Mail in Leoaprd supports exchange. > If she has to resort to using webmail (OWA), what browser is the > most reliable? Safari? Firefox ? My wife uses Firefox. Seems to work fine. -- Instant karma's gonna get you From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 21 02:23:09 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 21 02:23:14 2008 Subject: passing URL to firefox vi the CLI Message-ID: I've tried various ways of passing a url from the terminal to firefox, but have not stumbled upon the one that works yet. Anyone have an idea? /Applications/3rd/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin "url" didn't work, and neither did it work with firefox-bin -- A: You're wrong Q: I'v never found that to be true A: Because it makes following messages more difficult Q: Why is top-posting evil? From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 21 02:23:50 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 21 02:23:54 2008 Subject: port configure Message-ID: <8AB9722B-082F-45FB-A662-BC173117CE35@kreme.com> Does `port configure ` work for ANY packages? I've tried it on several (slrn, vim, myslq) and it's never done anything at all. No error, nothing. or do you have to run it before you install a package? or does 'configure' not mean in ports what I think, which is to set configuration options for the package? -- "The person, be it gentleman or lady, who has not pleasure in a good novel, must be intolerably stupid". From zpamaral at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 07:15:27 2008 From: zpamaral at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Pedro_do_Amaral?=) Date: Fri Mar 21 07:15:34 2008 Subject: passing URL to firefox vi the CLI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A9EFC6E-368E-477E-A98F-02148F8F48DD@gmail.com> Em 21/03/2008, ?s 04:23, LuKreme escreveu: > I've tried various ways of passing a url from the terminal to > firefox, but have not stumbled upon the one that works yet. Anyone > have an idea? > > /Applications/3rd/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin "url" > > didn't work, and neither did it work with firefox-bin Hi, /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox "http://slashdot.org" & The command above works for me. ZP -- Jos? Pedro Sousa do Amaral If the master dies and the disciple grieves, the lives of both have been wasted. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2419 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/macosx-talk/attachments/20080321/8a20bb38/smime.bin From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 21 09:04:49 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 21 09:05:00 2008 Subject: Time Machine and .files Message-ID: <7CC44688-F8B5-4D9E-BF91-59295172D4BA@kreme.com> I accidently deleted my .ssh folder... (overwrote it, actually). Time machine had the directory backed-up, and I was able to restore a previous copy of it via the Terminal But I couldn't see a way to do it via the Time Machine interface. Not missing anything, am I? -- The hippo of recollection stirred in the muddy waters of the mind. From kcall at mac.com Fri Mar 21 09:26:28 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Fri Mar 21 09:26:40 2008 Subject: Time Machine and .files In-Reply-To: <7CC44688-F8B5-4D9E-BF91-59295172D4BA@kreme.com> References: <7CC44688-F8B5-4D9E-BF91-59295172D4BA@kreme.com> Message-ID: <4E7B794E-C164-45A1-A730-CCF1E5638970@mac.com> On Mar 21, 2008, at 9:04 AM, LuKreme wrote: > I accidently deleted my .ssh folder... (overwrote it, actually). > > Time machine had the directory backed-up, and I was able to restore > a previous copy of it via the Terminal > > But I couldn't see a way to do it via the Time Machine interface. maybe you have to open a Finder view of the enclosing folder, then go back in time ? K From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 21 11:24:46 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 21 11:24:54 2008 Subject: passing URL to firefox vi the CLI In-Reply-To: <5A9EFC6E-368E-477E-A98F-02148F8F48DD@gmail.com> References: <5A9EFC6E-368E-477E-A98F-02148F8F48DD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51ADD9FF-CE40-4B1E-9F45-78A083670391@kreme.com> On 21-Mar-2008, at 08:15, Jos? Pedro do Amaral wrote: > /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox "http://slashdot.org" That only works if Firefox is not already running. -- This is our music from the bachelor's den, the sound of loneliness turned up to ten. A harsh soundtrack from a stagnant waterbed and it sounds just like this. This is the sound of someone losing the plot, making out that they're OK when they're not. You're gonna like it, but not a lot. And the chorus goes like this... From kremels at kreme.com Fri Mar 21 11:25:35 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Mar 21 11:25:40 2008 Subject: Time Machine and .files In-Reply-To: <4E7B794E-C164-45A1-A730-CCF1E5638970@mac.com> References: <7CC44688-F8B5-4D9E-BF91-59295172D4BA@kreme.com> <4E7B794E-C164-45A1-A730-CCF1E5638970@mac.com> Message-ID: <7AB6FEC8-FA47-43DA-9F34-011A2BCF8DFF@kreme.com> On 21-Mar-2008, at 10:26, Kevin Callahan wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2008, at 9:04 AM, LuKreme wrote: >> I accidently deleted my .ssh folder... (overwrote it, actually). >> >> Time machine had the directory backed-up, and I was able to restore >> a previous copy of it via the Terminal >> >> But I couldn't see a way to do it via the Time Machine interface. > > maybe you have to open a Finder view of the enclosing folder, then > go back in time ? Ah, yes, doh! -- May you live in interesting times From shawnce at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 12:10:34 2008 From: shawnce at gmail.com (Shawn Erickson) Date: Fri Mar 21 12:10:37 2008 Subject: Time Machine and .files In-Reply-To: <7AB6FEC8-FA47-43DA-9F34-011A2BCF8DFF@kreme.com> References: <7CC44688-F8B5-4D9E-BF91-59295172D4BA@kreme.com> <4E7B794E-C164-45A1-A730-CCF1E5638970@mac.com> <7AB6FEC8-FA47-43DA-9F34-011A2BCF8DFF@kreme.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:25 AM, LuKreme wrote: > > On 21-Mar-2008, at 10:26, Kevin Callahan wrote: > > > > On Mar 21, 2008, at 9:04 AM, LuKreme wrote: > >> I accidently deleted my .ssh folder... (overwrote it, actually). > >> > >> Time machine had the directory backed-up, and I was able to restore > >> a previous copy of it via the Terminal > >> > >> But I couldn't see a way to do it via the Time Machine interface. > > > > maybe you have to open a Finder view of the enclosing folder, then > > go back in time ? > > Ah, yes, doh! What a world... the hard part is opening a finder window, the easy part is going back in time. ;-) -Shawn From zpamaral at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 12:21:38 2008 From: zpamaral at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Pedro_do_Amaral?=) Date: Fri Mar 21 12:21:44 2008 Subject: passing URL to firefox vi the CLI In-Reply-To: <51ADD9FF-CE40-4B1E-9F45-78A083670391@kreme.com> References: <5A9EFC6E-368E-477E-A98F-02148F8F48DD@gmail.com> <51ADD9FF-CE40-4B1E-9F45-78A083670391@kreme.com> Message-ID: <461C46CF-CD2C-4074-802A-7C0CBDC0769B@gmail.com> Em 21/03/2008, ?s 13:24, LuKreme escreveu: > On 21-Mar-2008, at 08:15, Jos? Pedro do Amaral wrote: >> /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox "http:// >> slashdot.org" > > > That only works if Firefox is not already running. OK, then do: /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -P default1 -no- remote "slashdot.org" & This will open a new defaults window, where you can create user default1, and then a new instance of Firefox will run along with the instance already running. There are a series of other flags, but I could not add tabs to a pre- existing instance... ZP -- Jos? Pedro Sousa do Amaral He lives from day to day indulging the appetite of the hour;... His life has neither law nor order; and this distracted existence he terms joy and bliss and freedom; and so he goes on. --Plato -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pedro do Amaral wrote: >>> /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox "http://slashdot.org >>> " >> >> That only works if Firefox is not already running. > > OK, then do: > > /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -P default1 -no- > remote "slashdot.org" & > > This will open a new defaults window, where you can create user > default1, and then a new instance of Firefox will run along with the > instance already running. > > There are a series of other flags, but I could not add tabs to a pre- > existing instance... You could also invoke applescript from the command line: $ osascript -e 'tell application "Firefox" to OpenURL("foo.com")' From aglee at mac.com Fri Mar 21 19:25:38 2008 From: aglee at mac.com (Andy Lee) Date: Fri Mar 21 19:25:43 2008 Subject: passing URL to firefox vi the CLI In-Reply-To: References: <5A9EFC6E-368E-477E-A98F-02148F8F48DD@gmail.com> <51ADD9FF-CE40-4B1E-9F45-78A083670391@kreme.com> <461C46CF-CD2C-4074-802A-7C0CBDC0769B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B50CD06-D783-426B-BB85-E3991DFA4997@mac.com> There's also the "open" command: open -a Firefox "http://www.yahoo.com" --Andy From kcall at mac.com Sat Mar 22 01:24:27 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Sat Mar 22 01:24:31 2008 Subject: .Mac personal domains Message-ID: <8D957A78-2EFD-418D-820C-132BA310E8C1@mac.com> did Apple's "Personal Domain" services just get bunged up? seems like the DNS resolutions are not working properly ? K From kremels at kreme.com Sat Mar 22 06:19:31 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sat Mar 22 06:19:34 2008 Subject: Mac rebooted, don't know why Message-ID: <45639D34-A6B1-46D0-B41D-63AED3BD8ED6@kreme.com> Somewhere in here, my MacPro rebooted. I don't know why though. This is what is in "All Messages": 22-Mar-08 01:08:42 /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[75150] Backup completed successfully. 22-Mar-08 01:10:14 natd[73612] failed to write packet back (No route to host) 22-Mar-08 01:10:14 natd[73612] failed to write packet back (Host is down) 22-Mar-08 01:11:33 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] fsck_hfs: Volume is journaled. No checking performed. 22-Mar-08 01:11:33 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] fsck_hfs: Use the -f option to force checking. 22-Mar-08 01:11:44 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/chum.plist 22-Mar-08 01:11:44 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/ dashboardadvisoryd.plist 22-Mar-08 01:11:44 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/pilotfish.plist $ uptime 6:37 up 5:26, 2 users, load averages: 2.21 0.90 0.47 My initial suspicion was a power outage (I am between UPSs right now) but the clocks on the oven and microwave were not reset. Where else can I look? -- The Germans wore gray, you wore blue. From bwhite at webhostingsolutions.com Sat Mar 22 07:01:42 2008 From: bwhite at webhostingsolutions.com (Brian White) Date: Sat Mar 22 07:13:45 2008 Subject: Mac rebooted, don't know why In-Reply-To: <45639D34-A6B1-46D0-B41D-63AED3BD8ED6@kreme.com> References: <45639D34-A6B1-46D0-B41D-63AED3BD8ED6@kreme.com> Message-ID: >Somewhere in here, my MacPro rebooted. I don't know why though. >This is what is in "All Messages": > >22-Mar-08 01:08:42 /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[75150] >Backup completed successfully. >22-Mar-08 01:10:14 natd[73612] failed to write packet back (No route to host) >22-Mar-08 01:10:14 natd[73612] failed to write packet back (Host is down) >22-Mar-08 01:11:33 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] fsck_hfs: Volume is >journaled. No checking performed. >22-Mar-08 01:11:33 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] fsck_hfs: Use the >-f option to force checking. >22-Mar-08 01:11:44 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please >convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/chum.plist >22-Mar-08 01:11:44 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please >convert the following to launchd: >/etc/mach_init.d/dashboardadvisoryd.plist >22-Mar-08 01:11:44 com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please >convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/pilotfish.plist > > $ uptime > 6:37 up 5:26, 2 users, load averages: 2.21 0.90 0.47 > >My initial suspicion was a power outage (I am between UPSs right >now) but the clocks on the oven and microwave were not reset. > >Where else can I look? FWIW, I've had a few occasions where a power surge rebooted my Mac and the various clocks on appliances did not reset. Brian White From cjacobs at mac.com Sat Mar 22 09:54:12 2008 From: cjacobs at mac.com (Charles Jacobs) Date: Sat Mar 22 09:54:16 2008 Subject: .Mac personal domains In-Reply-To: <8D957A78-2EFD-418D-820C-132BA310E8C1@mac.com> References: <8D957A78-2EFD-418D-820C-132BA310E8C1@mac.com> Message-ID: <79E492F3-B322-485A-A5C9-163390076D30@mac.com> Mine seems to be working okay now. On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:24 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > did Apple's "Personal Domain" services just get bunged up? > > seems like the DNS resolutions are not working properly > > ? > > K > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-talk mailing list > MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk From kcall at mac.com Sat Mar 22 09:59:09 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Sat Mar 22 09:59:13 2008 Subject: .Mac personal domains In-Reply-To: <79E492F3-B322-485A-A5C9-163390076D30@mac.com> References: <8D957A78-2EFD-418D-820C-132BA310E8C1@mac.com> <79E492F3-B322-485A-A5C9-163390076D30@mac.com> Message-ID: <45BF18EF-CE28-488C-B76D-31F9763D932C@mac.com> On Mar 22, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Charles Jacobs wrote: > Mine seems to be working okay now. turns out, the hosting service parking the domain revamped their servers and the CNAME alias www records got blown away in the process I just got it straightened out K > > > > On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:24 AM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > >> did Apple's "Personal Domain" services just get bunged up? >> >> seems like the DNS resolutions are not working properly >> >> ? >> >> K >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-talk mailing list >> MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk > From jearle at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 10:55:39 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Sat Mar 22 10:55:45 2008 Subject: .Mac personal domains In-Reply-To: <45BF18EF-CE28-488C-B76D-31F9763D932C@mac.com> References: <8D957A78-2EFD-418D-820C-132BA310E8C1@mac.com> <79E492F3-B322-485A-A5C9-163390076D30@mac.com> <45BF18EF-CE28-488C-B76D-31F9763D932C@mac.com> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60803221055m10e451e7j2b340202d6a9a4d0@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > turns out, the hosting service parking the domain revamped their > servers and the CNAME alias www records got blown away in the process > > I just got it straightened out Hmm, doesn't anyone here use dotmac? http://code.google.com/p/dotmac/ -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net The Spodcast :: http://spodcast.org From kcall at mac.com Sat Mar 22 11:54:37 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Sat Mar 22 11:54:43 2008 Subject: .Mac personal domains In-Reply-To: <5bbc0cd60803221055m10e451e7j2b340202d6a9a4d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8D957A78-2EFD-418D-820C-132BA310E8C1@mac.com> <79E492F3-B322-485A-A5C9-163390076D30@mac.com> <45BF18EF-CE28-488C-B76D-31F9763D932C@mac.com> <5bbc0cd60803221055m10e451e7j2b340202d6a9a4d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2EE99D2A-B1B4-4B7E-8E19-304C8C7EBE4D@mac.com> On Mar 22, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Jared Earle wrote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: >> turns out, the hosting service parking the domain revamped their >> servers and the CNAME alias www records got blown away in the process >> >> I just got it straightened out > > Hmm, doesn't anyone here use dotmac? > http://code.google.com/p/dotmac/ Apple's "Personal Domain" service has been working great - makes for very easy publishing using iWeb. Kevin From kremels at kreme.com Sat Mar 22 13:19:26 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sat Mar 22 13:19:30 2008 Subject: passing URL to firefox vi the CLI In-Reply-To: <461C46CF-CD2C-4074-802A-7C0CBDC0769B@gmail.com> References: <5A9EFC6E-368E-477E-A98F-02148F8F48DD@gmail.com> <51ADD9FF-CE40-4B1E-9F45-78A083670391@kreme.com> <461C46CF-CD2C-4074-802A-7C0CBDC0769B@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 21-Mar-2008, at 13:21, Jos? Pedro do Amaral wrote: > > Em 21/03/2008, ?s 13:24, LuKreme escreveu: >> On 21-Mar-2008, at 08:15, Jos? Pedro do Amaral wrote: >>> /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox "http://slashdot.org >>> " >> >> >> That only works if Firefox is not already running. > > OK, then do: > > /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -P default1 -no- > remote "slashdot.org" & > > This will open a new defaults window, where you can create user > default1, and then a new instance of Firefox will run along with the > instance already running. Err.. all I want is to tell firefox "hey, here's a url, load it up just like if I clicked on it in, say, Mail.app" I don't want a new user profile or a new instance of firefox to laucnh > There are a series of other flags, but I could not add tabs to a pre- > existing instance... Bah! On 21-Mar-2008, at 20:05, Charles Jacobs wrote: > $ osascript -e 'tell application "Firefox" to OpenURL("foo.com")' fugly, but it should work. Open also. It just seemed it would be good to pass the URL directly. -- "Why do you wear that stupid bunny suit?" "Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?" From jearle at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 13:32:16 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Sat Mar 22 13:32:19 2008 Subject: passing URL to firefox vi the CLI In-Reply-To: References: <5A9EFC6E-368E-477E-A98F-02148F8F48DD@gmail.com> <51ADD9FF-CE40-4B1E-9F45-78A083670391@kreme.com> <461C46CF-CD2C-4074-802A-7C0CBDC0769B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60803221332u478af3b2jdf009f45458863b8@mail.gmail.com> Is Firefox your default browser? If so, try the following: jearle@superhiro$ open "http://www.23x.net" Yup, that works. ;) From lomion at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 14:43:40 2008 From: lomion at gmail.com (Larry Sica) Date: Sat Mar 22 14:43:45 2008 Subject: .Mac personal domains In-Reply-To: <5bbc0cd60803221055m10e451e7j2b340202d6a9a4d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8D957A78-2EFD-418D-820C-132BA310E8C1@mac.com> <79E492F3-B322-485A-A5C9-163390076D30@mac.com> <45BF18EF-CE28-488C-B76D-31F9763D932C@mac.com> <5bbc0cd60803221055m10e451e7j2b340202d6a9a4d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0C3B5780-0C27-48C3-9DE5-9F228F9E8371@gmail.com> On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Jared Earle wrote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: >> turns out, the hosting service parking the domain revamped their >> servers and the CNAME alias www records got blown away in the process >> >> I just got it straightened out > > Hmm, doesn't anyone here use dotmac? > http://code.google.com/p/dotmac/ > I am surprised Apple has not gone after them over the name. You'd think they'd come up with a more original name, not just rip off the original service name. How well does it work? --Larry From robertlaferla at comcast.net Sat Mar 22 16:41:14 2008 From: robertlaferla at comcast.net (Robert La Ferla) Date: Sat Mar 22 16:41:18 2008 Subject: passing URL to firefox vi the CLI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13B6C2C0-0D5F-4971-8D16-D27EB807FA83@comcast.net> Use the open command. It will call whatever the default browser is: % open http://www.google.com From jearle at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 17:18:47 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Sat Mar 22 17:18:51 2008 Subject: .Mac personal domains In-Reply-To: <0C3B5780-0C27-48C3-9DE5-9F228F9E8371@gmail.com> References: <8D957A78-2EFD-418D-820C-132BA310E8C1@mac.com> <79E492F3-B322-485A-A5C9-163390076D30@mac.com> <45BF18EF-CE28-488C-B76D-31F9763D932C@mac.com> <5bbc0cd60803221055m10e451e7j2b340202d6a9a4d0@mail.gmail.com> <0C3B5780-0C27-48C3-9DE5-9F228F9E8371@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60803221718t78be91a6m6c95345b7c2cad42@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Larry Sica wrote: > I am surprised Apple has not gone after them over the name. You'd > think they'd come up with a more original name, not just rip off the > original service name. How well does it work? Currently? The iDisk works very well, as does syncing of calendars and stuff like Transmit and Omniweb favourites. iLife support is in development, but should be working soon. I'm working off the iLife branch in the svn repository for testing and the trunk version for day-to-day running. It'll get there fairly soon, I reckon. I can't wait to use iWeb on my own domains. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net The Spodcast :: http://spodcast.org From kcall at mac.com Sat Mar 22 18:19:23 2008 From: kcall at mac.com (Kevin Callahan) Date: Sat Mar 22 18:19:26 2008 Subject: Moving AOL contacts from XP to Leopard Mail Message-ID: <932A0913-AAC0-4C01-BB71-DD4D15ED8F48@mac.com> I have a friend who is now two days into her new MacBook Pro 17 and is beside herself with glee. AOL works fine in Mail, but she doesn't have any contacts. Anybody know if there's a way to export the AOL addresses from a WinXP system? Or, is she going to have to install the All-In-On Software AOL? for Mac OS X ? I'd prefer to NOT install any AOL application. She'd like to move these AOL contacts into Leopard AddressBook and start using her .Mac account. I found this in the Apple forums: There may be a way to get your AOL Address Book transferred, but you would have to download and install the All-In-On Software AOL? for Mac OS X, which can be downloaded from this website AOL Macintosh Downloads. During the installation process, follow the prompts of the AOL Installer. Just make sure, when asked if you have an existing AOL account, that you would like to use, say Yes. This should ensure that your Address Book, Favorites, Contacts, and Filing Cabinetswill be preserved. Although I'm not sure, as you are transferring from a Windows system. If it does succeed, you can then use the utility AOL? Service Assistant, which can be downloaded from this website AOL Macintosh Downloads, which has additional functions offered, such as; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /mailman/archive/macosx-talk/attachments/20080322/a4d0d391/attachment.html From shacker at birdhouse.org Sat Mar 22 18:42:05 2008 From: shacker at birdhouse.org (Hacker Scot) Date: Sat Mar 22 18:42:12 2008 Subject: Deeply nested inboxes Message-ID: <7063222C-AFEC-406D-9A47-5526D79FD3C4@birdhouse.org> I've got a friend who started having this issue after switching his incoming mail server address from non-secure IMAP to SSL (but still the same account on the same server). Not sure whether this list will allow attachments, but the picture tells the story. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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