Apple Windows apps?

Ashley Aitken mrhatken at mac.com
Sat Jun 16 08:25:13 PDT 2007


Another good point.

Cheers,
Ashley.

On 16/06/2007, at 11:06 PM, Robert Marini wrote:

> Easy.  The download size.  If it were true that Apple had written  
> it in Cocoa and ported the necessary libraries and APIs over it  
> would be a MUCH larger file.
>
> rob
>
> On Jun 16, 2007, at 7:43 AM, Ashley Aitken wrote:
>
>>
>> On 16/06/2007, at 10:25 PM, Finlay Dobbie wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/06/07, Ashley Aitken <mrhatken at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 16/06/2007, at 9:53 PM, Finlay Dobbie wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 16/06/07, Ashley Aitken <mrhatken at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> >> If the right Core* bits have been ported then Cocoa (and/or  
>>>> Carbon ?)
>>>> >> should work.  Shouldn't it/they?
>>>> >
>>>> > In a word, no.
>>>>
>>>> Please elaborate.  What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>> I thought Apple has been factoring out all the core stuff and then
>>>> Cocoa and Carbon were modified to work on top of them.
>>>> CoreFoundation, Core* ... (the necessary graphics and other  
>>>> parts of
>>>> the layer below the Application Frameworks).
>>>
>>> That's a gross oversimplification.
>>
>> And that's not an elaboration.
>>
>>> Also, it's patently obvious if you
>>> go look at Safari for Windows that it's not a Cocoa application.
>>
>> I haven't run Safari on Windows but I have seen the screenshots on  
>> apple.com.
>>
>> How can you tell it's not a Cocoa app?
>>
>> I don't think the obvious things (like the menu bar in the window)  
>> preclude it from being a "Cocoa on Windows" app.
>>
>> Remember, that's the whole idea of using layers - things  
>> underneath can be implemented differently (i.e. using Windows  
>> libraries below).
>>
>> So again, why are you so sure its not a Cocoa application?  I'm  
>> not sure it is, but I would like to know why you are so sure it  
>> isn't.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ashley.
>>
>>
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