What's a good affordable UPS?
Hex Star
hexstar at gmail.com
Mon Jan 8 17:06:22 PST 2007
hello??? can anyone answer that question please??? thanks! :-)
I'd also appreciate a response to what's below...thanks! :-)
Alright well I've had the Belkin UPS for a while now and I'm very happy with
it ...the only issue at first was that the plug didn't fit smugly into the
outlet such that if the plug was left alone it'd slip out...this was
resolved simply enough though by plugging one of those outlet extenders (not
a surge protector) into the outlet and the UPS into that as the UPS plug fit
smugly in the extender...other then that OS X recognizes the UPS without the
Belkin UPS software having to be installed and the UPS shutdown features can
be managed in the Power system preference panel...only question I have is
does anyone have a recommendation for the % left in the UPS I should set my
mac to shutdown at? I currently have it at 70%...is that a good choice? The
UPS is linked by me in this thread already earlier but I'll post its info
again anyways to make it easier for you guys ...it's a 1100va 660watt UPS
with 280 watts being consumed in the battery backup plugs and the manual
states it'll provide backup power for around 1.5-4minutes at that rate...so
is having OS X automatically shut down my mac at 70% depletion of my UPS a
good choice? If not what would be better? thanks!
P.S. I've chosen not to use the BullDog UPS software Belkin provides because
of reported issues with it failing to see the UPS after sleeping
On 12/27/06, Hex Star <hexstar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> also, how does ups automatic shutdown handle a password protected
> screensaver? will it shutdown fine even if the screensaver is activated and
> usually needs a password before the screensaver will close? thanks! :)
>
> On 12/27/06, Hex Star <hexstar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Oh one more thing...is there a way to tell in OS X if your mac has
> > cleanly shutdown the last time it powered off? Thanks! :-)
> >
> > On 12/27/06, Hex Star < hexstar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > thanks alot guys for your replies...so sounds good...the main purpose
> > > of a UPS is indeed to just give me time to save my open stuff and shutdown
> > > my mac safely and if I want it to be able to auto shutdown my mac if I'm not
> > > around then I need to make sure I don't have apps open that will need user
> > > interaction before closing if I plan to leave for a long time during a
> > > storm...thanks again for all your help guys, greatly appreciated! :-)
> > >
> > > On 12/27/06, Shawn Erickson < shawnce at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 27, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Chad Leigh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Dec 27, 2006, at 2:29 AM, Hex Star wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> well really all I'm concerned about is my mac being able to
> > > > >> shutdown normally so that there isn't a chance of file system
> > > > >> corruption, I wouldn't leave things like word documents or other
> > > > >> important nature open and just leave for a long time far away
> > > > from
> > > > >> my mac so in those cases I'd be near my mac so I could shut it
> > > > >> down and save the documents within the time frame given by the
> > > > >> UPS, all other times I typically just leave Firefox open with
> > > > >> gmail, paypal, and the apple store in tabs ... so if I use the
> > > > >> auto ups shutdown feature, since I have firefox set to warn on
> > > > >> closing when there's multiple tabs (sometimes when I stay up too
> > > > >> late I accidentally click the X for the main window and the
> > > > >> warning comes in handy), would the auto shutdown feature force
> > > > >> firefox to close? or would it be better for me to just disable
> > > > the
> > > > >> warn on closing when there's multiple tabs alert? Er actually
> > > > does
> > > > >> the UPS execute the shutdown as soon as power is lost or after it
> > > > >> looses a good amount of power? Guess it'd make sense for it to
> > > > >> wait a bit to allow for saving of open documents first...but if
> > > > it
> > > > >> doesn't would it then just do a normal OS X shutdown? And if so
> > > > >> what does OS X do when trying to shutdown and there's apps open
> > > > >> that don't want to close because of alert dialogs? Does it wait
> > > > >> until the matter is fixed or does it force close the programs
> > > > >> after some time? sounds like this is the UPS for me...now if I
> > > > can
> > > > >> just figure out how that mentioned event will play out I'll be
> > > > all
> > > > >> set...thanks alot! :D
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have a UPS software installed on my Mac so I do not know
> > > > > how they do a shutdown, but I would expect they would issue a
> > > > > shutdown event, the same as choosing "Shutdown" in the menu or hit
> > > >
> > > > > the power button and get the shutdown dialog and tell it to
> > > > > shutdown. In my experience, when that happens, if an app cannot
> > > > be
> > > > > quit, for example, the app puts up an alert to save documents and
> > > > > the alert does not have a timeout, then the shutdown is cancelled.
> > > > > I think the system waits for 2min or something like that, from my
> > > > > memory, before it cancels.
> > > >
> > > > Mac OS X / Mac hardware understands UPS requests. See the man page
> > > > for pmset.
> > > >
> > > > UPS SPECIFIC ARGUMENTS
> > > > UPS-specific arguments are only valid following the -u option.
> > > > UPS set-settings
> > > > tings also have an on/off value. Use a -1 argument instead of
> > > > percent or
> > > > minutes to turn any of these settings off. If multiple halt
> > > > conditions
> > > > are specified, the system will halt on the first condition
> > > > that
> > > > occurs in
> > > > a low power situation.
> > > >
> > > > haltlevel - when draining UPS battery, battery level at which
> > > > to trigger
> > > > an emergency shutdown (value in %)
> > > > haltafter - when draining UPS battery, trigger emergency
> > > > shutdown after
> > > > this long running on UPS power (value in minutes)
> > > > haltremain - when draining UPS battery, trigger emergency
> > > > shutdown when
> > > > this much time remaining on UPS power is estimated (value in
> > > > minutes)
> > > >
> > > > Also note (think added in 10.3.3 timeframe)...
> > > >
> > > > <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh2335.html
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Shawn
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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