audio effects in new iMovie '08 - what's to become of Logic Pro ? what about a truly integrated media authoring environment?

[Kevin Callahan]

On Aug 16, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Matt Penna wrote:

> On Aug 16, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:
>
>> One last comment on this issue:
>>
>> Here's how I *CAN* record audio from my MOTU directly into iMovie:
>>
>> If I set my video source to the *** built-in iSight camera on my  
>> MBPro *** I can set the audio input to my MOTU firewire device and  
>> capture directly to disk in iMovie using my MOTU audio.  Of  
>> course, I don't want to use my internal iSight camera !  but ..
>>
>
> Kevin,
>
> I've been following this thread since the beginning, and while I do  
> not have a fix for you, it appears that 10.4.10 broke a lot of  
> combination video/audio devices. My external iSight is no longer  
> working properly, and numerous people with cameras with built-in  
> mikes (both USB and Firewire, from several manufacturers) have  
> reported similar issues.
>
> 10.4.10 had a serious audio problem initially (since fixed), but  
> perhaps all of these other problems are symptomatic of wider audio  
> issues in this release. It's possible your problem will be fixed in  
> 10.4.11, which seems to have been seeded to developers already and  
> lists fixes to Core Audio. (Apparently. I just read the news and  
> don't have firsthand knowledge.)
>
> There were a handful of updates released all at once recently, so  
> it's not easy to figure out what's going on. I could be off base.

Thanks ....

BTW: iChat works in that I can set iChat to use my Canon DV camera as  
the video source (Firewire) and my MOTU 896HD audio interface  
(Firewire) as the audio source.

Maybe I just need to grab one of those utilities that records my  
iChat/iSight session ..  perhaps I can get it to record the input  
stream(s) ---

<http://www.ecamm.com/mac/conferencerecorder/>
<http://www.ecamm.com/mac/conferencerecorder/faq.html>
<http://www.ecamm.com/mac/conferencerecorder/settings.html#quality>

Conference Recorder 2
record iChat audio and video

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"Finally, an easy way to record your iChat audio and video chats.  
Conference Recorder is an add-on for iChat AV which automatically  
transforms your conference sessions into QuickTime movies. "

Conference Recorder is great for lessons, interviews, video podcasts  
or just having fun.
then send the file to iMovie for editing ?

Just to remind those who think I'm nuts -  I tried a workaround and  
compromise:  I opted to take the analog output of the MOTU and send  
it into the camcorder.  The analog audio is then sampled by the  
camera (ouch!) ..

iMovie will capture this.

The sound sucks.

It's hissy and has other audio issues.

I looked for EQ and audio plugins such as reverb in iMovie 08 (we had  
them in iMovie 6).

Can't find them.  (maybe I'm blind, but I can't find the effects we  
once had in iMovie 6).

So, I exported the movie and dropped it into Logic Pro for audio  
sweetening.

When done sweetening, I tried to "Export audio to Movie".  It didn't  
work.  I then discovered this is known bug (for some 8+ months) with  
Logic Pro.

I then saved out the audio as an audio only .aif file.

I dropped the original movie into Garageband ...
dropped the Logic Pro audio file into Garageband
muted the original audio track in the movie
then shared out the movie via GB.

So oddly, I resorted to "consumer" apps to do what some think is a  
"pro" process.

I could probably get away with going directly from iMovie into  
Garageband .. as GB has some good quality effects these days.

Still, the audio is not great since I have to have the f____ camera  
do the sampling.

If QTPro gets fixed (and if it supports HDV sources along with audio  
sources over firewire), then I'll go back to that workflow ..
drop the capture into iMovie and edit there.

I attended the Final Cut Studio 2 traveling seminar.  I was stunned  
by the quality of the software .. and in particular, the workflow.

Given music/video production is merging quite quickly (people I know  
are more interested in doing music-videos than just recording their  
music), would be nice to see better integration among components in  
the system.

K


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