Adobe and Apple, is it all over

[Scott Stevenson]

On Oct 9, 2006, at 2:00 AM, David Zhou wrote:

> No, but then that's not a valid comparison.  Keeping in mind that  
> the roots of OS X goes back to Next, Apple hasn't written an OS  
> since the pre-system 6 days.

I'd take writing Photoshop from scratch in Cocoa over releasing 5  
major versions of Mac OS X in five years.

In any case, they've written large new apps from scratch (or nearly  
from scratch) recently. It's not trivial but completely possible.


> it's if Apple is willing to take on the challenge of combatting  
> over a decade's worth of ingrained workflow and interface habits.

Too bad they have no experience with that.  :)


> The combined image and path editing abilities of Aperture and  
> Motion are a fraction of what's offered in Photoshop and  
> Illustrator. Yes, a lot of the more basic bits are there, but there  
> are still many things missing.  Plus, Apple has its hands full with  
> Aperture and Motion competing against Lightroom and Affer Effects.

Well, that's a lot of reasons it wouldn't work, but they might be  
doing it right now for all we know. There's quite a few things nobody  
saw coming.


> Do you really think Apple wants to open a _third_ front with _yet  
> another_ version 1 application? Even before things like Aperture  
> have been really fully developed and refined to a level that it is  
> a clear advantage over Adobe's offerings?

Possibly, yes. Maybe they even want a fourth and fifth front.

If Mac OS X is to be a best-of-breed media platform, there better be  
a best-of-breed 2D image editing app.


> They are both advancing in two different areas: Adobe is trying to  
> keep a common base between both platforms, whilst Apple is free to  
> advance on their own OS X platform, writing APIs and libraries to  
> take advantage of the single platform mindset.

Which is what I meant, even if I said it in a slightly awkward way.  
But it's not a competition for who can do the harder job, it's who  
can make the better app.


> Last time I checked, Adobe doesn't make Avid.
> Avid is still hugely popular, as is Premiere.
> Has Motion taken a huge chunk out of After Effects?

I feel like you're defending Adobe, but that's not necessary because  
I'm not attacking them. Adobe is free to do whatever they want. It  
seems what they want to do is build apps that don't favor any one  
platform.

That's fine, but I'm a Mac OS X user. I want an app that is the best  
Mac app it can be. That's who gets my money.

    - Scott

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