Job Opportunity: Box Services hiring a full-time Cocoa User
Interface Developer, New York City
J. Todd Slack
mailinglists at jasonandannette.us
Fri Mar 21 16:00:55 PDT 2008
Hi,
I was going to let sleeping dogs lay, but I was phoned by Box twice
for a position that I applied for when I lived in NY and I must agree
that their interview questions are very out of the ordinary.
They are not typical questions about programming fundamentals,
sorting, optimization, etc common things a programmer gets. These
questions were deep into Open-GL, GUI Toolkit type questions for
multiple platforms, etc.
Needless to say I did not get the job either......and I answered their
questions and ran through possible scenarios of when to use what.....
*sigh*
So I moved to California....
Jason
On Mar 21, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Mason Browne wrote:
> But the drama! It's so exciting...
>
> I was pleased to see Mike back up his previous accusation. Whether
> this is the right place for such conversation... could be argued.
> If it's considered acceptable practice to drop job openings on the
> list, it should be acceptable for those with "special knowledge" to
> share their thoughts. If Box truly is as Mike describes them, then
> he's doing a great service by protecting his fellow Apple
> developers. If Mike is wrong, then Box can take it up with him
> through legal action, and we'll have all been reminded that places
> like this do exist, and we would be wise enough to be wary of them.
>
> If nothing else, it's fun to see a heated discussion during an
> otherwise monotonous week. =)
>
> He'p da peeps!
>
> Mase
>
> On Mar 21, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Eric Peyton wrote:
>
>> This is absolutely not the correct place for a diatribe like this.
>> You have made your points (more than clearly) and Marc has made his
>> points as well. Now it is up to those who want to follow up with
>> Box Services to take your points into consideration (if they deem
>> them worthwhile).
>>
>> Now please - take this off the list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Mike wrote:
>>> All the spin in the world will not change facts.
>>>
>>> My TWO phone interviews were in Oct. 2006 so that was after you
>>> became manager. After the second "interview" it became clear to me
>>> that your company has no interest in hiring a seasoned 16+ year
>>> Mac veteran and author of 18 successful commercial Mac products.
>>> If those qualifications are not good enough, then your goal is
>>> obviously something other than hiring the best.
>>>
>>> The fact is, like so many companies today, you run a cheap
>>> imported labor sweat shop and when your cheap, inexperienced,
>>> third-world programmers can't do the job, you "interview" people
>>> like me to get the knowledge you need to give to your people who
>>> can't otherwise do the work. Your compatriot, Tenzen Wild informed
>>> me the two "programmers" the candidate would be working with where
>>> imported from China with little experience.
>>>
>>> Any company which conducts exploitative interviews is committing
>>> fraud and fraud is a criminal act. Criminal and "legitimate" do
>>> not go together.
>>>
>>> You claim to have hired "4 full-time Mac developers". Will you
>>> please tell the list their names, nationalities, and how we can
>>> contact them? Put your money where your mouth is and prove it to
>>> us. I am willing to wager $1000 that at least 3 of them are
>>> imported cheap-labor foreign nationals. Do you have the guts to
>>> accept a $1000 bet? In fact, I have notified DHS, ICE, BCIS and
>>> the FBI that you are conducting visa fraud because you are
>>> pretending to hire Americans, when in fact you are doin the
>>> opposite. Do you think we are all stupid?
>>>
>>> I see that you yourself are from Belgium. One can hardly imagine a
>>> more America-hating socialist European nation than that.
>>>
>>> I don't doubt your work has been on the covers of major fashion
>>> magazines - it's not surprising given the corrupt nature of the
>>> fashion industry. Just because you are successful does not mean
>>> you are honest.
>>>
>>> I would warn all serious American Mac developers to stay as far
>>> away from Box as possible because they have no intention of hiring
>>> you. They only want to gain your knowledge for free and give it to
>>> their cheap imported programmers who are incompetent.
>>>
>>> This is the age of exploitative interviews. And Box is the master
>>> of that.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Marc Van Olmen wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> I was shocked to see Mike Amorose's response to my job post on
>>>> this list today. Box Services, LLC, the company that I work for,
>>>> is indeed a legitimate company. Box Services, LLC has a
>>>> workforce of about 70 people and is a leader in the fashion
>>>> photography industry. Their work is on the front page of almost
>>>> every major fashion magazine like Vogue, etc. The photographers
>>>> they work with are considered to be in the top 100.
>>>> I joined the company after Mike's interview so I can't comment on
>>>> what happened. The only thing I can say is that I'm sorry that
>>>> he had such a bad experience. Since I became the manager of the
>>>> software department at Box Services LLC two years ago, we have
>>>> hired four full-time Mac developers and 2 freelancers. I feel
>>>> strongly that the knowledge in our team is high. The person that
>>>> will join us will have the opportunity to learn a lot from this
>>>> talented team about topics including: CoreImage, OpenGL, OpenGL
>>>> Shader Language, Graphical User Interface design and development,
>>>> and advanced server client technology.
>>>> If anyone has any more doubts or comments please respect list
>>>> etiquette and email me directly.
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Marc Van Olmen
>>>> Senior Software Architect
>>>> Box Services LLC
>>>> 412W 14th Street,
>>>> New York, NY 10014
>>>> http://www.boxwork.com
>>>> http://www.boxstudios.com
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