From conrad at yoders.org Thu May 1 08:12:26 2008 From: conrad at yoders.org (Conrad G T Yoder) Date: Thu May 1 09:03:35 2008 Subject: iSync Leopard issues Message-ID: I am trying to get calendars on a new iBook w/ Leopard to sync up with an existing .mac account, from a Mac running 10.3.9. The old Mac seems to sync fine; the new iBook is not downloading the calendar/contacts data. Any idea what to do to get it kick-started? -Conrad -- Mellowfields Top security holiday camps Luxury without fear Fun without suspicion Relax in a panic-free atmosphere From conrad at yoders.org Thu May 1 12:18:27 2008 From: conrad at yoders.org (Conrad G T Yoder) Date: Thu May 1 13:19:12 2008 Subject: iSync Leopard issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 5/1/08 11:12 AM -0400, Conrad G T Yoder wrote: > > I am trying to get calendars on a new iBook w/ Leopard to sync up with an > existing .mac account, from a Mac running 10.3.9. The old Mac seems to sync > fine; the new iBook is not downloading the calendar/contacts data. Any idea > what to do to get it kick-started? Well, to answer my own question: Apple officially discontinued iSync support for OS X <= 10.3.9 for working with 10.4/10.5. Bleah. Oh well... -Conrad -- Mind that parcel - Eagle eyes can save a life. From trash127 at free.fr Fri May 2 03:58:17 2008 From: trash127 at free.fr (Trash is empty) Date: Fri May 2 03:58:23 2008 Subject: Can not Control a mac with ARD 3.2 Message-ID: <16BBDD77-8711-4F92-A8C7-9AA40FD1E3FC@free.fr> Hi, I got about 30 iMac, all of them can be controlled with Apple Remote Desktop 3.2. On one of this iMac, I can neither control nor observe it. The window "Connecting to XXX" appear, and ... nothing. The send UNIX command, Copy, Install or Spotligh commands are fully functionals. I tried to remove ARD Client with the followinf commands : > > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/ARD\ Agent.app; > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/ARD\ Helper; > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement; > rm -R "/Library/Receipts/RemoteDesktop"*; > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/Menu\ Extras/RemoteDesktop.menu; > ; > rm -rf "/Users/*/Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist"; > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.ARDAgent.plist; > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist; > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteManagement.plist; > rm -R /Library/Documentation/RemoteDesktop; > rm -R /var/db/RemoteManagement; Then I re-installed ARD client and upgrade. Same problem. Strange : If I use on any other mac the Leopard buil-in command to control this iMac, it works fine. Any idea to control/observe this iMac using ARD ? Client is running 10.5.2, ARD 3.2.1 Regards, G. From trash127 at free.fr Fri May 2 06:30:30 2008 From: trash127 at free.fr (Trash is empty) Date: Fri May 2 06:30:36 2008 Subject: Can not Control a mac with ARD 3.2 In-Reply-To: <60EEA837-B6DC-4F70-BD67-72BA631799FC@customikesolutions.com> References: <16BBDD77-8711-4F92-A8C7-9AA40FD1E3FC@free.fr> <60EEA837-B6DC-4F70-BD67-72BA631799FC@customikesolutions.com> Message-ID: <3EE58E9B-1D94-477F-9E16-0850D89D21E5@free.fr> This iMac gets its IP from DHCP. Computer Name is . Local Hostname is . On 2 mai 08, at 13:08, Head Honcho wrote: > Hi G, > > On 02/05/2008, at 8:58 PM, Trash is empty wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> I got about 30 iMac, all of them can be controlled with Apple >> Remote Desktop 3.2. > > > >> >> >> Strange : If I use on any other mac the Leopard buil-in command to >> control this iMac, it works fine. >> >> >> Any idea to control/observe this iMac using ARD ? > > Check that the IP address and dns name are correct. I have a > machine that changes IP (from static to auto) when I reboot, and ARD > picks up the IP address, but can't connect because the DNS name > doesn't match. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > > Michael Ward > -- > Head Honcho > CustoMike Solutions > Member, FileMaker Business Alliance > Member, FileMaker Technical Network > FileMaker 7 Certified Developer > FileMaker 8 Certified Developer > FileMaker 9 Certified Developer > 10 Wandoo Crt > Wheelers Hill, 3150 > ph 0414 562 501 > headhoncho@customikesolutions.com > > From patgmac at gmail.com Sat May 3 16:28:19 2008 From: patgmac at gmail.com (Patrick Gallagher) Date: Sat May 3 16:28:22 2008 Subject: Can not Control a mac with ARD 3.2 In-Reply-To: <16BBDD77-8711-4F92-A8C7-9AA40FD1E3FC@free.fr> References: <16BBDD77-8711-4F92-A8C7-9AA40FD1E3FC@free.fr> Message-ID: <1fffb2dc0805031628q5269d63bhecd2a7fa84932b1b@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Trash is empty wrote: > I tried to remove ARD Client with the followinf commands : > > > > > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/ARD\ Agent.app; > > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/ARD\ Helper; > > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement; > > rm -R "/Library/Receipts/RemoteDesktop"*; > > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/Menu\ Extras/RemoteDesktop.menu; > > ; > > rm -rf "/Users/*/Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist"; > > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.ARDAgent.plist; > > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist; > > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteManagement.plist; > > rm -R /Library/Documentation/RemoteDesktop; > > rm -R /var/db/RemoteManagement; > > You should also delete /Library/Application\ Support/Apple/Remote\ Desktop I usually only have to delete this directory when a specific client doesn't want to behave in ARD. -- Patrick Gallagher Emory University ACSA, A+, Network+, RHCT http://patgmac.blogspot.com From noam at maccentricsolutions.com Mon May 5 18:23:28 2008 From: noam at maccentricsolutions.com (Noam Birnbaum) Date: Mon May 5 18:33:10 2008 Subject: sllooooow opening Office docs Message-ID: <6C6100DA-5AE6-44F7-8EA3-2B7B3760AE9A@maccentricsolutions.com> One of our clients is complaining that multiple people are having difficulty opening Microsoft Office documents (.doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, etc.) in a timely matter over AFP or SMB. This occurs in both Office 2004 and 2008. This does NOT affect non- Office file types like PDF, JPEG, etc. The clients (running Leopard) are accessing these documents from an Xserve running Leopard Server (10.5.2) that is hosted remotely. No one has access to the server locally. What think? Thanks! Noam Birnbaum http://maccentricsolutions.com/ 877.luv.macs x89 ? Apple Certified Technical Coordinator ? Apple Certified Help Desk Specialist From donmontalvo at mac.com Tue May 6 19:14:09 2008 From: donmontalvo at mac.com (Don Montalvo) Date: Tue May 6 19:14:16 2008 Subject: sllooooow opening Office docs In-Reply-To: <20080506185920.6428E17A61C@forums.omnigroup.com> References: <20080506185920.6428E17A61C@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <37D34563-8EAA-4C31-BB07-CD3FA5A62095@mac.com> Noam Birnbaum wrote: > One of our clients is complaining that multiple people are having > difficulty opening Microsoft Office documents > (.doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, etc.) in a timely matter over AFP or SMB. > This occurs in both Office 2004 and 2008. This does NOT affect non- > Office file types like PDF, JPEG, etc. > > The clients (running Leopard) are accessing these documents from an > Xserve running Leopard Server (10.5.2) that is hosted remotely. No > one has access to the server locally. > > What think? > > Thanks! > > Noam Birnbaum Network home dir? DOn From jearle at gmail.com Wed May 7 01:23:01 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Wed May 7 01:23:06 2008 Subject: sllooooow opening Office docs In-Reply-To: <6C6100DA-5AE6-44F7-8EA3-2B7B3760AE9A@maccentricsolutions.com> References: <6C6100DA-5AE6-44F7-8EA3-2B7B3760AE9A@maccentricsolutions.com> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60805070123j342f1162la1d3daebe0a88616@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Noam Birnbaum wrote: > One of our clients is complaining that multiple people are having difficulty > opening Microsoft Office documents (.doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, etc.) in a > timely matter over AFP or SMB. This occurs in both Office 2004 and 2008. > This does NOT affect non-Office file types like PDF, JPEG, etc. Where is word storing it's multitude of oversized tempfiles that it incessantly writes to? :) -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net Hosting :: http://cat5.org From Philip.Moetteli at tele2.ch Wed May 7 13:06:05 2008 From: Philip.Moetteli at tele2.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Philip_M=F6tteli?=) Date: Wed May 7 14:06:19 2008 Subject: PubSubAgent crashed? Message-ID: Hi, I can't open any RSS feed anymore. Not in Safari, nor in Mail. In Safari, I get the following error message: Safari can?t open the page. Safari can?t open the page ?feed://feeds.feedburner.com/ziphone?. The error was: ?Operation could not be completed. (Mach error -308 - (ipc/ mig) server died)? (NSMachErrorDomain:-308) Please choose Report Bugs to Apple from the Safari menu, note the error number, and describe what you did before you saw this message. And in the Console, I see the following messages appear: PubSubAgent[60107] LaunchListener: Sockets dict has no entry for key 'Render' PubSubAgent[60107] Couldn't register ServerSocket 'Render' with launchd PubSubAgent[60107] std::runtime_error "Couldn't register ServerSocket with launchd" caught in int PSAgentFrameworkMain() com.apple.launchd[210] (com.apple.PubSub.Agent[60107]) Exited with exit code: 1 PubSubAgent[60118] LaunchListener: Sockets dict has no entry for key 'Render' PubSubAgent[60118] Couldn't register ServerSocket 'Render' with launchd PubSubAgent[60118] std::runtime_error "Couldn't register ServerSocket with launchd" caught in int PSAgentFrameworkMain() com.apple.launchd[210] (com.apple.PubSub.Agent[60118]) Exited with exit code: 1 Safari[60117] IPCClient: Server port 0 is invalid; looking it up again... PubSubAgent[60119] LaunchListener: Sockets dict has no entry for key 'Render' PubSubAgent[60119] Couldn't register ServerSocket 'Render' with launchd PubSubAgent[60119] std::runtime_error "Couldn't register ServerSocket with launchd" caught in int PSAgentFrameworkMain() Safari[60117] IPC call returned (ipc/mig) server died (11,-308) (Mach error fffffecc) Safari[60117] Foundation::NetException "(ipc/mig) server died (11,-308)" caught in void -[PSSCGIProtocol startLoading] (PSSCGIProtocol*, objc_selector*) Safari[60117] WARNING: PubSub SCGIProtocol got NetError (ipc/mig) server died (11,-308); reporting NSError Error Domain=NSMachErrorDomain Code=-308 "Operation could not be completed. (Mach error -308 - (ipc/mig) server died)" com.apple.launchd[210] (com.apple.PubSub.Agent[60119]) Exited with exit code: 1 I tried to delete "~/Library/PubSub" and "~/Library/Mail/RSS". I also tried to delete all the feeds from Mail. I could imagine, that it is not a problem of a user, but merely at the system level. Because, even in Apple's standard Guest account, which is freshly created at every login, I can't load RSS feeds and I get the very same error message. Thanks for any help Phil From daniel at highdesertchurch.com Mon May 12 08:36:55 2008 From: daniel at highdesertchurch.com (Daniel Hazelbaker) Date: Mon May 12 08:36:59 2008 Subject: LDAP Printers & Printer Options Message-ID: <69D0B050-302C-43EA-84FF-6AE52A0C0358@highdesertchurch.com> Does anybody know if it is possible to use LDAP (Open Directory) printers (and Workgroup Manager to assign which printers show up on whose computer) and have the printer options get applied to the client computers? For example, we have an HP4200 printer with an Envelope feeder. On the server it shows the envelope feeder option turned on, on the clients it shows it turned off. It appears I can turn it on manually at the client, but that seems to kind of defeat the purpose of a central place to setup printers. Daniel Hazelbaker Mac OS X Server 10.4 (waiting for DS issue to be resolved before Leopard upgrade) Mac OS X Client 10.4 & 10.5 From IT at chrisking.com Mon May 12 13:31:53 2008 From: IT at chrisking.com (Alex Morken) Date: Mon May 12 13:32:14 2008 Subject: LDAP Printers & Printer Options In-Reply-To: <69D0B050-302C-43EA-84FF-6AE52A0C0358@highdesertchurch.com> References: <69D0B050-302C-43EA-84FF-6AE52A0C0358@highdesertchurch.com> Message-ID: On May 12, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Daniel Hazelbaker wrote: > Does anybody know if it is possible to use LDAP (Open Directory) > printers (and Workgroup Manager to assign which printers show up on > whose computer) and have the printer options get applied to the > client computers? For example, we have an HP4200 printer with an > Envelope feeder. On the server it shows the envelope feeder option > turned on, on the clients it shows it turned off. It appears I can > turn it on manually at the client, but that seems to kind of defeat > the purpose of a central place to setup printers. I agree that you should be able to specify these settings in Workgroup Manager. The thing to do instead of physically touching each client is to send a unix command that specifies what trays are available: lpadmin -p sduplex \ -v /dev/null -m netstandard_foomatic -o protocol=bsd,dest=laser \ -T PS -I postscript \ -n /usr/local/ppds/br_5170_2.ppd \ -o media=Letter,MultiPurpose Paper sizes can be one of the following: Letter, Legal, A4, COM10, DL Trays are defined by the PPD, but examples might be: Upper, Lower, MultiPurpose, LargeCapacity That was gleaned off of this site: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/ content/submitted/duplex_printing.html. Not Mac OS X specific but should work as they are basically the same tools. `man lpadmin` to find out more options. www.cups.org also has a lot of information. I have had very good luck pushing out printers with lpadmin. Alex Morken System Administrator Chris King Precision Components From conrad at yoders.org Mon May 12 13:38:03 2008 From: conrad at yoders.org (Conrad G T Yoder) Date: Mon May 12 13:38:13 2008 Subject: Using BT cell as modem in Leopard Message-ID: I had been using my Verizon LG VX8700 as a Bluetooth modem on my PB in Tiger (10.4), but now in Leopard when I pair it and try to dial up, it attempts to connect for about 30 seconds and then fails. Do I have some settings wrong? There is no option to choose a VX8700 in the cell set up (let alone a Verizon phone) - anyone have this working? On a related note, is there a way to use the EVDO capabilities in the VX8700 for internet access from a Mac? (Either with or without Verizon's blessings?) -Conrad -- Trust is security. From trash127 at free.fr Wed May 14 08:24:55 2008 From: trash127 at free.fr (Trash is empty) Date: Wed May 14 08:24:59 2008 Subject: Can not Control a mac with ARD 3.2 In-Reply-To: <1fffb2dc0805031628q5269d63bhecd2a7fa84932b1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <16BBDD77-8711-4F92-A8C7-9AA40FD1E3FC@free.fr> <1fffb2dc0805031628q5269d63bhecd2a7fa84932b1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0BE39CB5-3D2E-48E4-95E9-197BF584778A@free.fr> Le 4 mai 08 ? 01:28, Patrick Gallagher a ?crit : I answer myself : the problem was that for some clients, the DNS name does not match the IP address of the client. If I change it to match the IP address, I can manager the clients. The question is : how to batch change it in ARD for clients that has the same problem. G. > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Trash is empty > wrote: > I tried to remove ARD Client with the followinf commands : > > > > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/ARD\ Agent.app; > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/ARD\ Helper; > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement; > rm -R "/Library/Receipts/RemoteDesktop"*; > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/Menu\ Extras/RemoteDesktop.menu; > ; > rm -rf "/Users/*/Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist"; > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.ARDAgent.plist; > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist; > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteManagement.plist; > rm -R /Library/Documentation/RemoteDesktop; > rm -R /var/db/RemoteManagement; > > You should also delete /Library/Application\ Support/Apple/Remote\ > Desktop > > I usually only have to delete this directory when a specific client > doesn't want to behave in ARD. > > -- > Patrick Gallagher > Emory University > ACSA, A+, Network+, RHCT > http://patgmac.blogspot.com From PERBIX at lmsd.org Wed May 14 09:05:55 2008 From: PERBIX at lmsd.org (Perbix, Michael) Date: Wed May 14 09:06:01 2008 Subject: Can not Control a mac with ARD 3.2 In-Reply-To: <0BE39CB5-3D2E-48E4-95E9-197BF584778A@free.fr> Message-ID: There is one big issue with ARD, it relies HEAVILY on DNS being accurate. If you don't have DNS scavanging stale records and making sure DHCP updates DNS as IP address are handed out then you will have a LOT of mismatches. Other utilities that have a small client that reports back to a server the current IP don't have this issue, as the active IP is always refreshed and up to date in the software. It uses the computers client name, and IP info internally. -Mike On 5/14/08 11:24 AM, "Trash is empty" wrote: Le 4 mai 08 ? 01:28, Patrick Gallagher a ?crit : I answer myself : the problem was that for some clients, the DNS name does not match the IP address of the client. If I change it to match the IP address, I can manager the clients. The question is : how to batch change it in ARD for clients that has the same problem. G. > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Trash is empty > wrote: > I tried to remove ARD Client with the followinf commands : > > > > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/ARD\ Agent.app; > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/ARD\ Helper; > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement; > rm -R "/Library/Receipts/RemoteDesktop"*; > rm -R /System/Library/CoreServices/Menu\ Extras/RemoteDesktop.menu; > ; > rm -rf "/Users/*/Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist"; > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.ARDAgent.plist; > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist; > rm -R /Library/Preferences/com.apple.RemoteManagement.plist; > rm -R /Library/Documentation/RemoteDesktop; > rm -R /var/db/RemoteManagement; > > You should also delete /Library/Application\ Support/Apple/Remote\ > Desktop > > I usually only have to delete this directory when a specific client > doesn't want to behave in ARD. > > -- > Patrick Gallagher > Emory University > ACSA, A+, Network+, RHCT > http://patgmac.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ MacOSX-admin mailing list MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From mrhatken at mac.com Wed May 14 19:17:59 2008 From: mrhatken at mac.com (Ashley Aitken) Date: Wed May 14 19:18:09 2008 Subject: Moving user from local to LDAP directory? Message-ID: <5EB2E309-4396-4949-AC8C-DA489081B631@mac.com> Howdy All, What is the easiest way to move (or copy - if that is the best approach) a user from a local directory to the master LDAP directory on OS X Server 10.5 (OpenDirectory)? I would have liked to be able to just drag and drop but that doesn't seem possible. Do I have to export and reimport the user from the command line? Or should I just create a new user and duplicate all the information (is it problematic to leave the user in the local directory as well)? Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken ashley.hatken.com Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!) From mah at jump-ing.de Thu May 15 08:08:40 2008 From: mah at jump-ing.de (Markus Hitter) Date: Thu May 15 08:08:48 2008 Subject: Moving user from local to LDAP directory? In-Reply-To: <5EB2E309-4396-4949-AC8C-DA489081B631@mac.com> References: <5EB2E309-4396-4949-AC8C-DA489081B631@mac.com> Message-ID: <993A4382-9A40-4CCD-8CD1-3A924AFDA25A@jump-ing.de> Am 15.05.2008 um 04:17 schrieb Ashley Aitken: > Or should I just create a new user and duplicate all the > information (is it problematic to leave the user in the local > directory as well)? Likely, this will cause some confusion as soon as this user logs in. But you should be able to create the new user, copy/move all data over, then delete the old user. Use "chown" to adjust the user-IDs of files and directories. Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ From mrhatken at mac.com Sat May 17 07:10:55 2008 From: mrhatken at mac.com (Ashley Aitken) Date: Sat May 17 07:11:05 2008 Subject: Moving user from local to LDAP directory? In-Reply-To: References: <5EB2E309-4396-4949-AC8C-DA489081B631@mac.com> Message-ID: <6C33A1E4-B299-4ED7-B0CA-96D5646EF2A6@mac.com> On 15/05/2008, at 10:17 AM, Ashley Aitken wrote: > What is the easiest way to move (or copy - if that is the best > approach) a user from a local directory to the master LDAP directory > on OS X Server 10.5 (OpenDirectory)? Oops, just found the "Export ..." and "Import ..." menu items in Workgroup Manager. Still think drag-and-drop would be nice, sensible, within WGM. Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken 04 1226-8159 (Mb) 08 9368-5505 (Ph) Perth, Western Australia Skype/iChat: MrHatken (GMT + 8hrs!) From frenchchef at mac.com Sat May 17 15:24:47 2008 From: frenchchef at mac.com (David Parker) Date: Sat May 17 15:24:52 2008 Subject: /opt /tmp /var and Cisco VPN client Message-ID: <56E9BF66-69D3-402B-A51B-17B5C327E7B4@mac.com> I was looking for a download of Cisco VPN client to go on 10.5. I found at Macupdate.com. I also read an interesting note by someone who installed it. The comment was that the installer, if you have a /opt directory, will create /private/opt, cp your existing /opt entries into it, and create a symbolic link for /opt as /private/opt. I don't have that yet, but I did notice that my var and tmp are links .. "tmp -> private/tmp" and var -> private/var. Same for /etc as etc -> private/etc. Is this correct for OS X? I've only seen /opt on Solaris and only noticed it on my machine after installing VPN client the first time. One reason for asking is that I just purchased the 24" iMac and I'm going to transfer my files from my Powerbook to the new Mac. I really want only home directories and installed applications go. I really don't want anything unusual to get copied on the new machine. And, this time, I want to say goodbye to those OS 9 files. Those don't need to copy either. thanks. From andrewo at liveworld.com Sat May 17 16:13:48 2008 From: andrewo at liveworld.com (Andrew Oliver) Date: Sat May 17 16:46:58 2008 Subject: /opt /tmp /var and Cisco VPN client In-Reply-To: <56E9BF66-69D3-402B-A51B-17B5C327E7B4@mac.com> References: <56E9BF66-69D3-402B-A51B-17B5C327E7B4@mac.com> Message-ID: <5BA7D4A1-9CE8-4E30-92BC-1A52C7F0059B@liveworld.com> On May 17, 2008, at 3:24 PM, David Parker wrote: > The comment was that the installer, if you have a /opt directory, > will create /private/opt, cp your existing /opt entries into it, and > create a symbolic link for /opt as /private/opt. > > I don't have that yet, but I did notice that my var and tmp are > links .. "tmp -> private/tmp" and var -> private/var. Same for /etc > as etc -> private/etc. > > Is this correct for OS X? Is what correct? The fact that /var, /tmp and /etc are symlinks to /private/ ? Yes, that's always been the case. The comment that the VPN installer reworks /opt? I have no idea whether it does this or not, so I can't tell you if the comment itself is correct (as in 'accurate'). /opt isn't standard, but it's not a problem, either. I would have issue with some arbitrary installer reworking chunks of the filesystem, though, so I wouldn't say it's correct (as in 'the right thing to do'). Andrew :) From Barry_Albright at Brown.Edu Sun May 18 18:17:18 2008 From: Barry_Albright at Brown.Edu (Barry Albright) Date: Sun May 18 18:34:42 2008 Subject: MacOSX-admin Digest, Vol 53, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <20080518185946.50017197ABE@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: This is correct that the Cisco VPN Client does create an opt directory if one does not exist already. I'm not a fan of this either but it is the way it is for now. Be sure you are using one of the latest versions 4.9.01 (0080) or higher. Some older versions had a bug in that it would delete items in the opt directory if you already had one on your system. -Barry On 5/18/08 2:59 PM, "macosx-admin-request@omnigroup.com" wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:24:47 -0400 > From: David Parker > Subject: /opt /tmp /var and Cisco VPN client > To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > Message-ID: <56E9BF66-69D3-402B-A51B-17B5C327E7B4@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I was looking for a download of Cisco VPN client to go on 10.5. I > found at Macupdate.com. I also read an interesting note by someone who > installed it. > > The comment was that the installer, if you have a /opt directory, will > create /private/opt, cp your existing /opt entries into it, and create > a symbolic link for /opt as /private/opt. > > I don't have that yet, but I did notice that my var and tmp are > links .. "tmp -> private/tmp" and var -> private/var. Same for /etc as > etc -> private/etc. > > Is this correct for OS X? > > I've only seen /opt on Solaris and only noticed it on my machine after > installing VPN client the first time. > > One reason for asking is that I just purchased the 24" iMac and I'm > going to transfer my files from my Powerbook to the new Mac. I really > want only home directories and installed applications go. I really > don't want anything unusual to get copied on the new machine. > > And, this time, I want to say goodbye to those OS 9 files. Those don't > need to copy either. > > thanks. From donmontalvo at mac.com Mon May 19 12:51:28 2008 From: donmontalvo at mac.com (Don Montalvo) Date: Mon May 19 12:56:08 2008 Subject: MacOSX-admin Digest, Vol 53, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: <20080519185944.85B5419A81B@forums.omnigroup.com> References: <20080519185944.85B5419A81B@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: Barry Albright wrote: > This is correct that the Cisco VPN Client does create an opt > directory if > one does not exist already. I'm not a fan of this either but it is > the way > it is for now. Be sure you are using one of the latest versions > 4.9.01 (0080) or higher. Some older versions had a bug in that it > would > delete items in the opt directory if you already had one on your > system. > > -Barry We deployed 4.9.01 (100) and haven't run into the problem. However, we do pkg up the install ourselves since the vendor pkg installer tosses up prompts: http://www.donmontalvo.com/citrix/citrix-pkg-from-hell.png Don From lists at colorremedies.com Sun May 25 20:01:45 2008 From: lists at colorremedies.com (Chris Murphy) Date: Sun May 25 20:14:33 2008 Subject: wireless network "frequent transitions"? Message-ID: <7946956F-57CC-43B5-BF7B-4CEB6BC0A03F@colorremedies.com> New laptop with 10.5.2 shipping on it seems to have a lot of network anomalies compared to a Powerbook with 10.4.11 which has no such anomalies in the same environment (and location). Symptoms are high latency (slow to establish connection) to servers, iChat being "chatty" with connection status, email that occasionally won't send. The only clue at the time of these events are numerous entries like the following in Console: May 25 16:50:04 colormac kernel[0]: AirPort: Link Up on en1 May 25 16:50:04 colormac mDNSResponder[22]: Note: Frequent transitions for interface en1 (192.168.1.103); network traffic reduction measures in effect May 25 16:50:12 colormac iChatAgent[10274]: WARNING: SocketStream: CFStream error 1/57 occurred on input stream May 25 16:50:12 colormac iChatAgent[10274]: WARNING: XMLStream: CFStream error 1/57 occurred on input May 25 16:50:12 colormac iChatAgent[10274]: WARNING: JConnection: Error: Could not connect to server: talk.l.google.com, type=0, code=57 May 25 16:50:51 colormac GoogleUpdateChecker[14283]: LCC Scroll Enhancer loaded May 25 16:50:57 colormac mDNSResponder[22]: Note: Frequent transitions for interface en1 (FE80:0000:0000:0000:021E:C2FF:FEB9:8B73); network traffic reduction measures in effect May 25 16:51:01 colormac mDNSResponder[22]: Note: Frequent transitions for interface en1 (FE80:0000:0000:0000:021E:C2FF:FEB9:8B73); network traffic reduction measures in effect Flummoxed. This is intermittent, in that this goes on for maybe an hour then stops for quite a while. So far I haven't determined a pattern, but it doesn't happen all the time. Separately, but perhaps related or perhaps not, is something very different about this new hardware compared to previous experience is that the airport signal indicator on the menu bar is either at maximum or it will not find/connect to the wireless network. If connected, it always indicates maximum signal. Otherwise it is disconnected from the network. Suggestions? Chris Murphy From mgf at mgfconsulting.net Tue May 27 22:39:42 2008 From: mgf at mgfconsulting.net (Mike Friedman) Date: Tue May 27 22:46:47 2008 Subject: wireless network "frequent transitions"? In-Reply-To: <7946956F-57CC-43B5-BF7B-4CEB6BC0A03F@colorremedies.com> References: <7946956F-57CC-43B5-BF7B-4CEB6BC0A03F@colorremedies.com> Message-ID: <915CCEBC-86CA-42E9-97E2-1894BD3D374D@mgfconsulting.net> When I had this happen to me a few months ago (two year old Macbook), the end result was that Apple replaced my wireless card. At a Mac Genuis' suggestion, I did some mucking around with preferences to reset them, reinstalled OSX, but in the end a replacement wireless card fixed this exact problem. On May 25, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > New laptop with 10.5.2 shipping on it seems to have a lot of network > anomalies compared to a Powerbook with 10.4.11 which has no such > anomalies in the same environment (and location). Symptoms are high > latency (slow to establish connection) to servers, iChat being > "chatty" with connection status, email that occasionally won't send. > The only clue at the time of these events are numerous entries like > the following in Console: > > May 25 16:50:04 colormac kernel[0]: AirPort: Link Up on en1 > May 25 16:50:04 colormac mDNSResponder[22]: Note: Frequent > transitions for interface en1 (192.168.1.103); network traffic > reduction measures in effect > May 25 16:50:12 colormac iChatAgent[10274]: WARNING: SocketStream: > CFStream error 1/57 occurred on input stream > May 25 16:50:12 colormac iChatAgent[10274]: WARNING: XMLStream: > CFStream error 1/57 occurred on input > May 25 16:50:12 colormac iChatAgent[10274]: WARNING: JConnection: > Error: Could not connect to server: talk.l.google.com, type=0, code=57 > May 25 16:50:51 colormac GoogleUpdateChecker[14283]: LCC Scroll > Enhancer loaded > May 25 16:50:57 colormac mDNSResponder[22]: Note: Frequent > transitions for interface en1 > (FE80:0000:0000:0000:021E:C2FF:FEB9:8B73); network traffic reduction > measures in effect > May 25 16:51:01 colormac mDNSResponder[22]: Note: Frequent > transitions for interface en1 > (FE80:0000:0000:0000:021E:C2FF:FEB9:8B73); network traffic reduction > measures in effect > > > Flummoxed. This is intermittent, in that this goes on for maybe an > hour then stops for quite a while. So far I haven't determined a > pattern, but it doesn't happen all the time. > > Separately, but perhaps related or perhaps not, is something very > different about this new hardware compared to previous experience is > that the airport signal indicator on the menu bar is either at > maximum or it will not find/connect to the wireless network. If > connected, it always indicates maximum signal. Otherwise it is > disconnected from the network. > > Suggestions? > > Chris Murphy > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin ======================= Mike Friedman MGF Consulting Computers without Attitude http://www.mgfconsulting.net 415-823-9990 Instant Message AIM/Yahoo: sfmike64 From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Tue May 27 23:14:21 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Tue May 27 23:14:23 2008 Subject: wireless network "frequent transitions"? In-Reply-To: <7946956F-57CC-43B5-BF7B-4CEB6BC0A03F@colorremedies.com> References: <7946956F-57CC-43B5-BF7B-4CEB6BC0A03F@colorremedies.com> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0805272314j27f32ea5t69475a9f11f4ab17@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > New laptop with 10.5.2 shipping on it seems to have a lot of network > anomalies compared to a Powerbook with 10.4.11 which has no such anomalies > in the same environment (and location). Symptoms are high latency (slow to > establish connection) to servers, iChat being "chatty" with connection > status, email that occasionally won't send. Leopard is known to have wireless networking issues in its current state, however 10.5.3 appears to be addressing most of these issues -- Best Regards, John Musbach From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Wed May 28 06:32:02 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Wed May 28 06:52:24 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard Message-ID: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> I'm new here. My recent background is Linux mostly (RHL, Fedora, RHEL-clone and Debian), but I have an xserve in my care. The Boss is tired of the Tiger in the Tank and he wants a Leopard in there instead. We have one xserve, so popping a disk into another for surgery isn't an option. Cloning to an external drive is possible, but cloning to an internal drive is probably faster. The broad plan is to clone the existing system volume to a new disk, then upgrade to Leopard using the new disk. The existing system drive is 120 Gbytes, the new is 300. The xserve has four disk bays, all occupied but replacing one disk temporarily doesn't pain us too much. We've purchased a 300 Gbyte disk, removed an existing disk from the hotplug carrier, installed the new disk and plugged it in. OS X demanded to know what to do with it, so I said "Initialise with one partition." It seems its lack of Apple firmware doesn't seem to matter. I've discovered booting the xserve in target mode isn't particularly helpful, I only see one disk. Sure, that's what the docs say, but the docs aren't always right. On Linux, I would boot a CD (knoppix is my favourite) and use dd to clone the disk (it does work, with some caveats, when the target disk is equal in size (best) or larger). Carefully, of course. A good alternative on Linux is to boot in single-user mode; the filesystems are ro so one has to try hard to change things. First question: is booting OS X to single-user mode a sensible way to clone the disk? Carbon Copy Cloner is all well and good, but AFAIK it has a GUI interface, I've not explored running it using a CLI. Does it run from the commandline with no GUI, or should I use (for example) dd. Once I have the system cloned (so I can revert quickly and easily), how should I go about the upgrade? Does anyone have any handy hints? I've seen reports of problems with openLdap; is that likely to be a problem? What should I read? -- John Summerfield From jearle at gmail.com Wed May 28 07:14:46 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Wed May 28 07:14:49 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60805280714s1c8625ben371113b85d0ceae4@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM, John Summerfield wrote: > Does anyone have any handy hints? If you're doing Server Admin, it pays to have an external USB drive with a complete install of MacOSX with Carbon Copy Cloner (and any recovery tools you pick up on the way) installed. I used to use a 40GB iPod for this (along with keeping all my music on it, of course) but any decent USB2 external drives would do. If you were to arm yourself with one of these, it'll kick the pants off a live CD. Besides, it's worth it just to try to get your employer to buy you an iPod. :) -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net Hosting :: http://cat5.org From conrad at yoders.org Wed May 28 07:44:38 2008 From: conrad at yoders.org (Conrad G T Yoder) Date: Wed May 28 07:44:47 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: At 5/28/08 9:32 AM -0400, John Summerfield wrote: > > Once I have the system cloned (so I can revert quickly and easily), how > should I go about the upgrade? Always choose the "Archive and Install" option - I foolishly did the plain Upgrade option from 10.4->10.5, which caused a terribly unstable system. You can always reinstall software that got moved after you do the upgrade. -Conrad -- Strength Through Faith Faith Through Unity From daniel at highdesertchurch.com Wed May 28 07:49:55 2008 From: daniel at highdesertchurch.com (Daniel Hazelbaker) Date: Wed May 28 07:50:00 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> Boot off of the Leopard install DVD (on the XServe) and use Disk Utility to clone the drive. I don't recall exactly what the menu is called, but after you select your language on the install DVD one of the menu bar items (it might be Utilities) has "Disk Utility" in it. Select the current Tiger partition, go to the Restore tab, and "restore" it to your new drive. If Disk Utility gives you trouble (it occasionally has issues doing this), fire up Terminal on the install DVD and use asr. asr -source /Volumes/OldTigerVolume -target /Volumes/NewBlankVolume - erase *** Triple check what you are typing, this wipes out the old volume (I once did it backwards but caught it before it erased). Daniel On May 28, 2008, at 6:32 AM, John Summerfield wrote: > I'm new here. My recent background is Linux mostly (RHL, Fedora, > RHEL-clone and Debian), but I have an xserve in my care. > > The Boss is tired of the Tiger in the Tank and he wants a Leopard > in there instead. > > We have one xserve, so popping a disk into another for surgery isn't > an option. Cloning to an external drive is possible, but cloning to > an internal drive is probably faster. > > The broad plan is to clone the existing system volume to a new disk, > then upgrade to Leopard using the new disk. > > The existing system drive is 120 Gbytes, the new is 300. > > The xserve has four disk bays, all occupied but replacing one disk > temporarily doesn't pain us too much. > > We've purchased a 300 Gbyte disk, removed an existing disk from the > hotplug carrier, installed the new disk and plugged it in. OS X > demanded to know what to do with it, so I said "Initialise with one > partition." It seems its lack of Apple firmware doesn't seem to > matter. > > I've discovered booting the xserve in target mode isn't particularly > helpful, I only see one disk. Sure, that's what the docs say, but > the docs aren't always right. > > On Linux, I would boot a CD (knoppix is my favourite) and use dd to > clone the disk (it does work, with some caveats, when the target > disk is equal in size (best) or larger). > > Carefully, of course. > > A good alternative on Linux is to boot in single-user mode; the > filesystems are ro so one has to try hard to change things. > > First question: is booting OS X to single-user mode a sensible way > to clone the disk? > > Carbon Copy Cloner is all well and good, but AFAIK it has a GUI > interface, I've not explored running it using a CLI. Does it run > from the commandline with no GUI, or should I use (for example) dd. > > Once I have the system cloned (so I can revert quickly and easily), > how should I go about the upgrade? > > Does anyone have any handy hints? > > I've seen reports of problems with openLdap; is that likely to be a > problem? > > What should I read? > > -- > John Summerfield > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Wed May 28 15:44:21 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Wed May 28 15:44:28 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> Message-ID: <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> Daniel Hazelbaker wrote: Thanks Daniel > Boot off of the Leopard install DVD (on the XServe) and use Disk > Utility to clone the drive. I don't recall exactly what the menu is > called, but after you select your language on the install DVD one of > the menu bar items (it might be Utilities) has "Disk Utility" in it. > Select the current Tiger partition, go to the Restore tab, and > "restore" it to your new drive. > > If Disk Utility gives you trouble (it occasionally has issues doing > this), fire up Terminal on the install DVD and use asr. > > asr -source /Volumes/OldTigerVolume -target /Volumes/NewBlankVolume > -erase > *** Triple check what you are typing, this wipes out the old volume (I > once did it backwards but caught it before it erased). I was hoping this would be possible. Is the result of this asr command a bootable disk? To clone a disk on Linux, I'd want it unmounted and therefore that form would not be possible. I'm fairly paranoid about copying the wrong way, I've not done it yet. From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Wed May 28 15:53:55 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Wed May 28 15:54:03 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <5bbc0cd60805280714s1c8625ben371113b85d0ceae4@mail.gmail.com> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <5bbc0cd60805280714s1c8625ben371113b85d0ceae4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <483DE283.3030409@corridors.wa.edu.au> Jared Earle wrote: Thanks Jared. > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM, John Summerfield > wrote: >> Does anyone have any handy hints? > > If you're doing Server Admin, it pays to have an external USB drive > with a complete install of MacOSX with Carbon Copy Cloner (and any > recovery tools you pick up on the way) installed. I used to use a 40GB > iPod for this (along with keeping all my music on it, of course) but > any decent USB2 external drives would do. > > If you were to arm yourself with one of these, it'll kick the pants > off a live CD. Besides, it's worth it just to try to get your employer > to buy you an iPod. :) > Hm, I have an MP3 player somewhere. It's got some podcasts from abc.net.au/{am,pm} on it, plus some from www.asx.com.au. Seriously, will the G4 Xserve boot from USB? How's it done (I know how to get to OpenFirmware, and I know it's not as good as Sun's [no help]). Getting a USB2 enclosure for the existing system drive would be easy, I think there's one on the desk over there. A smooth, hard case so it can skid off the desk easily. -- John From andrewo at liveworld.com Wed May 28 15:59:24 2008 From: andrewo at liveworld.com (Andrew Oliver) Date: Wed May 28 15:59:28 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: On May 28, 2008, at 3:44 PM, John Summerfield wrote: > I was hoping this would be possible. Is the result of this asr > command a bootable disk? To clone a disk on Linux, I'd want it > unmounted and therefore that form would not be possible. As per 'man asr': > HISTORY > Apple Software Restore got its start as a field service > restoration tool > used to reconfigure computers' software to 'factory' state. It > later > became a more general software restore mechanism and software > installa- > tion helper application for various Apple computer products. > ASR has > been used in manufacturing processes and in shipping computers' > System > Software Installers. Since it's used at that level, it's clear that asr-based clones are, indeed, bootable, especially with the help of bless. Now, if you're cloning a live system with changing data, you're taking your chances - it may or may not boot depending on which files change during the clone. That said, to date I've yet to have a problem with it. Andrew :) From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Wed May 28 16:01:45 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Wed May 28 16:01:50 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <483DE459.4090903@corridors.wa.edu.au> Conrad G T Yoder wrote: Thanks Conrad > At 5/28/08 9:32 AM -0400, John Summerfield > wrote: >> Once I have the system cloned (so I can revert quickly and easily), how >> should I go about the upgrade? > > Always choose the "Archive and Install" option - I foolishly did the plain > Upgrade option from 10.4->10.5, which caused a terribly unstable system. > You can always reinstall software that got moved after you do the upgrade. A reason to clone the system disk is so we can go back easily. Is this going to harm Mac School or Filemaker? So far as stability is concerned, why should the upgrade paths differ? I would have thought that the only difference is that the old system is tucked away someplace for reference and, maybe, recovery. -- John From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Wed May 28 16:26:52 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Wed May 28 16:26:58 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: <483DEA3C.8060706@corridors.wa.edu.au> Andrew Oliver wrote: Thanks Andrew. Your name seemed familiar, so I googled and found (amongst others) these: http://blog.buni.org/blog/acoliver/opensource/I-eat-crow-Flex-to-open-source-under-Mozilla-Public-License http://swik.net/JBoss/del.icio.us+tag%2Fjboss/rhstack:+Java+Performance+Tuning+on+Linux+Servers+with+Andrew+Oliver/uc3p http://developer.redhatmagazine.com/2007/02/09/design-issues-in-high-performance-transactional-applications-using-java-and-linux/ > > On May 28, 2008, at 3:44 PM, John Summerfield wrote: > >> I was hoping this would be possible. Is the result of this asr command >> a bootable disk? To clone a disk on Linux, I'd want it unmounted and >> therefore that form would not be possible. > > As per 'man asr': > >> HISTORY >> Apple Software Restore got its start as a field service >> restoration tool >> used to reconfigure computers' software to 'factory' state. It >> later >> became a more general software restore mechanism and software >> installa- >> tion helper application for various Apple computer products. ASR >> has >> been used in manufacturing processes and in shipping computers' >> System >> Software Installers. > > Since it's used at that level, it's clear that asr-based clones are, > indeed, bootable, especially with the help of bless. Thanks for the clarification. > > Now, if you're cloning a live system with changing data, you're taking > your chances - it may or may not boot depending on which files change > during the clone. That said, to date I've yet to have a problem with it. I did clone a running Linux once, and the source was still running fine while I was using the clone. I presume I used dd, and that would mean the result needed a filesystem check. Binaries, shared libraries and such should be fine, but databases could be cactus. I'd never do it with something important. From andrewo at liveworld.com Wed May 28 16:43:00 2008 From: andrewo at liveworld.com (Andrew Oliver) Date: Wed May 28 16:43:03 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483DEA3C.8060706@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> <483DEA3C.8060706@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: On May 28, 2008, at 4:26 PM, John Summerfield wrote: > Andrew Oliver wrote: > Thanks Andrew. > > Your name seemed familiar, so I googled and found (amongst others) > these: > http://blog.buni.org/blog/acoliver/opensource/I-eat-crow-Flex-to-open-source-under-Mozilla-Public-License > http://swik.net/JBoss/del.icio.us+tag%2Fjboss/rhstack:+Java+Performance+Tuning+on+Linux+Servers+with+Andrew+Oliver/uc3p > http://developer.redhatmagazine.com/2007/02/09/design-issues-in-high-performance-transactional-applications-using-java-and-linux/ Nice. Shame none of them are me. Maybe I should blame my parents for their lack of originality :-) Andrew :) > >> On May 28, 2008, at 3:44 PM, John Summerfield wrote: >>> I was hoping this would be possible. Is the result of this asr >>> command a bootable disk? To clone a disk on Linux, I'd want it >>> unmounted and therefore that form would not be possible. >> As per 'man asr': >>> HISTORY >>> Apple Software Restore got its start as a field service >>> restoration tool >>> used to reconfigure computers' software to 'factory' state. >>> It later >>> became a more general software restore mechanism and software >>> installa- >>> tion helper application for various Apple computer products. >>> ASR has >>> been used in manufacturing processes and in shipping >>> computers' System >>> Software Installers. >> Since it's used at that level, it's clear that asr-based clones >> are, indeed, bootable, especially with the help of bless. > > Thanks for the clarification. > >> Now, if you're cloning a live system with changing data, you're >> taking your chances - it may or may not boot depending on which >> files change during the clone. That said, to date I've yet to have >> a problem with it. > > I did clone a running Linux once, and the source was still running > fine while I was using the clone. I presume I used dd, and that > would mean the result needed a filesystem check. Binaries, shared > libraries and such should be fine, but databases could be cactus. > I'd never do it with something important. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From daniel at highdesertchurch.com Wed May 28 17:07:55 2008 From: daniel at highdesertchurch.com (Daniel Hazelbaker) Date: Wed May 28 17:08:00 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483DEA3C.8060706@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> <483DEA3C.8060706@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: On May 28, 2008, at 4:26 PM, John Summerfield wrote: > I did clone a running Linux once, and the source was still running > fine while I was using the clone. I presume I used dd, and that > would mean the result needed a filesystem check. Binaries, shared > libraries and such should be fine, but databases could be cactus. > I'd never do it with something important. I have (actually 2 weeks ago) used asr to clone a live system. asr, by default, will first try to unmount both volumes and do a "block" copy (much like dd, except asr can deal with changing the volume size). If it cannot unmount it (boot volume, volume in use, etc.) it reverts to a file-copy method. I used a file copy method to clone a system to do a test upgrade (went from a G5 XServe to the new Intel XServe). The system worked fine except for a few things that were unrelated to the cloning process. For me, it was a proof of concept test. I would never do an upgrade to a real system that way. Once I new it worked then over the Memorial day holiday I did the same thing but shut down the server so I could do a "safe" upgrade. So, yes you can do an on-the-fly clone, but I would never trust a production system to it. Testing, sure. Disaster recovery, okay, but not production. Regards, Daniel From scott_ribe at killerbytes.com Wed May 28 18:18:28 2008 From: scott_ribe at killerbytes.com (Scott Ribe) Date: Wed May 28 18:18:35 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483DE283.3030409@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: > Seriously, will the G4 Xserve boot from USB? Actually, I don't think they will. You would need a Firewire enclosure, or adapter without the enclosure. > So far as stability is concerned, why should the upgrade paths differ? Three possibilities: 1) bug in the upgrade logic, which although many people tend to claim this, I think it's extremely rare; 2) incompatible 3rd-party extensions, which would be left out by the archive & install; 3) people manually mixing & matching components from different system versions in attempts to troubleshoot, and not putting things back before upgrading, thus confusing the installer. > I would have thought that the only difference is that the old system is > tucked away someplace for reference and, maybe, recovery. Not only that, but the new system is then installed from scratch into a clean directory. -- Scott Ribe scott_ribe@killerbytes.com http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice From conrad at yoders.org Wed May 28 20:39:35 2008 From: conrad at yoders.org (Conrad G T Yoder) Date: Wed May 28 20:39:43 2008 Subject: .mac sync problems Message-ID: A friend is having problems getting some Calendar & Address Book items synced between her MacBook (10.5.2) and eMac (10.4.11). The issue is with items on the MB which apparently won't upload to the .mac server. One interesting thing - in the list of Registered Computers, ".mac Sync Engine" appears on the 10.4.11 Mac, but not the 10.5.2 Mac. Should it be there on the Leopard Mac? Any suggestions for getting the sync up-to-date? (Clearing the .mac server data and uploading all from the MacBook, as well as removing all data from the eMac and downloading all from the .mac server has been tried, with no success.) -Conrad -- Don't suspect a friend - Report him. Ask for form 27B-6. From jearle at gmail.com Thu May 29 02:12:53 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Thu May 29 02:13:05 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483DE283.3030409@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <5bbc0cd60805280714s1c8625ben371113b85d0ceae4@mail.gmail.com> <483DE283.3030409@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60805290212n46a5f171vaaf59e584fa21356@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:53 PM, John Summerfield wrote: > Seriously, will the G4 Xserve boot from USB? How's it done (I know how to > get to OpenFirmware, and I know it's not as good as Sun's [no help]). > > Getting a USB2 enclosure for the existing system drive would be easy, I > think there's one on the desk over there. A smooth, hard case so it can skid > off the desk easily. If an older Xserve won't boot off USB, get a FireWire enclosure. They're really not expensive. I'd be tempted to get a small laptop drive enclosure that takes its power from the USB or Firewire, just for portability. ps. Yes, the iPod I used to carry around with OSX on was a Firewire model. I believe only Intel Macs boot off USB so a newer iPod will only be useful on newer Macs. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net Hosting :: http://cat5.org From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Fri May 30 01:13:34 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Fri May 30 01:13:33 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: <483FB72E.5000006@corridors.wa.edu.au> Andrew Oliver wrote: > > On May 28, 2008, at 3:44 PM, John Summerfield wrote: > >> I was hoping this would be possible. Is the result of this asr command >> a bootable disk? To clone a disk on Linux, I'd want it unmounted and >> therefore that form would not be possible. > > As per 'man asr': > >> HISTORY >> Apple Software Restore got its start as a field service >> restoration tool >> used to reconfigure computers' software to 'factory' state. It >> later >> became a more general software restore mechanism and software >> installa- >> tion helper application for various Apple computer products. ASR >> has >> been used in manufacturing processes and in shipping computers' >> System >> Software Installers. > > Since it's used at that level, it's clear that asr-based clones are, > indeed, bootable, especially with the help of bless. > > Now, if you're cloning a live system with changing data, you're taking > your chances - it may or may not boot depending on which files change > during the clone. That said, to date I've yet to have a problem with it. What fun! The xserve doesn't like the install DVD. TheBoss thought it pretty funny when I explained it to him. The xserve has a CD drive. It happens I have a laCie firewire CD burner or two around, I'll see next week ehether I can put a DVD-ROM drive in, we have a stack of those too. The other alternative is target mode. I have two official Apple documents here, and they differ as to which should be in target mode. Never mind, target mode only exposes one drive; on the xserve I need two for the preliminary backup. On the laptop (administration computer) it would need to export the DVD drive, and I don't think that will happen. To clone the system, I booted to single-user mode. asr is being difficult. Since I've booted to single-user mode, no volumes (is this the right word? In Linux I'd say "partitions" or "filesystems") are mounted. Therefore pretty much all the examples of ars usage are irrelevant. I have tried these asr -source /dev/rdisk0 -target /dev/rdisk3 -erase asr -source /dev/disk0 -target /dev/disk3 -erase and both forms complain "Couldn't initialize disk arbitration - Cannot allocate memory" and some other messages. Google doesn't know. I don't know. I'm going home. I will be back ps now it's booted to multi-user mode, I have a working asr command: asr -source / -target /dev/disk3s3 -erase -- John From jearle at gmail.com Fri May 30 03:15:11 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Fri May 30 03:15:15 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483FB72E.5000006@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> <483FB72E.5000006@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60805300315y6da31d9ata0c77095309e4c54@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:13 AM, John Summerfield wrote: > It happens I have a laCie firewire CD burner or two around, I'll see next > week ehether I can put a DVD-ROM drive in, we have a stack of those too. This usually works. Before the days of RPC1 fimware hacks, I used to use a Region-1 external DVD-R in an old Lacie case and a Region-2 DVD-RW in my G4 Tower. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net Hosting :: http://cat5.org From Fred at Reitberger.org Fri May 30 06:16:09 2008 From: Fred at Reitberger.org (Fred Reitberger) Date: Fri May 30 06:21:29 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <483FB72E.5000006@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> <483FB72E.5000006@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: John, If you have an external disk and a system with a DVD drive then you can create a partition on the external drive large enough to hold the installer image. Then use disk utility to restore the install disk to the hard disk partition. You then will have an install drive you can use. One word of caution, when using restore in disk utility drag the root partition of the DVD to the source window. If you drag the installer partition the drive will not be bootable. I do this all of the time and in fact have used a 10gig USB stick this way as well. It makes for a very fast install! Fred At 4:13 PM +0800 5/30/08, John Summerfield wrote: >Andrew Oliver wrote: >> >>On May 28, 2008, at 3:44 PM, John Summerfield wrote: >> >>>I was hoping this would be possible. Is the result of this asr >>>command a bootable disk? To clone a disk on Linux, I'd want it >>>unmounted and therefore that form would not be possible. >> >>As per 'man asr': >> >>>HISTORY >>> Apple Software Restore got its start as a field service >>>restoration tool >>> used to reconfigure computers' software to 'factory' state. It later >>> became a more general software restore mechanism and software installa- >>> tion helper application for various Apple computer products. ASR has >>> been used in manufacturing processes and in shipping computers' System >>> Software Installers. >> >>Since it's used at that level, it's clear that asr-based clones >>are, indeed, bootable, especially with the help of bless. >> >>Now, if you're cloning a live system with changing data, you're >>taking your chances - it may or may not boot depending on which >>files change during the clone. That said, to date I've yet to have >>a problem with it. > >What fun! > >The xserve doesn't like the install DVD. TheBoss thought it pretty >funny when I explained it to him. The xserve has a CD drive. > >It happens I have a laCie firewire CD burner or two around, I'll see >next week ehether I can put a DVD-ROM drive in, we have a stack of >those too. > >The other alternative is target mode. I have two official Apple >documents here, and they differ as to which should be in target >mode. Never mind, target mode only exposes one drive; on the xserve >I need two for the preliminary backup. On the laptop (administration >computer) it would need to export the DVD drive, and I don't think >that will happen. > > >To clone the system, I booted to single-user mode. asr is being difficult. > >Since I've booted to single-user mode, no volumes (is this the right >word? In Linux I'd say "partitions" or "filesystems") are mounted. >Therefore pretty much all the examples of ars usage are irrelevant. > > >I have tried these > asr -source /dev/rdisk0 -target /dev/rdisk3 -erase > asr -source /dev/disk0 -target /dev/disk3 -erase >and both forms complain >"Couldn't initialize disk arbitration - Cannot allocate memory" and >some other messages. > >Google doesn't know. I don't know. I'm going home. > >I will be back > > >ps now it's booted to multi-user mode, I have a working asr command: >asr -source / -target /dev/disk3s3 -erase > > > >-- >John > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >MacOSX-admin mailing list >MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin -- --------------------- Fred Reitberger 352-754-8806 fred@reitberger.org --------------------- From kremels at kreme.com Fri May 30 07:15:17 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri May 30 07:15:23 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44405DBF-F392-494C-B67F-8E458558AF60@kreme.com> On 28-May-2008, at 08:44, Conrad G T Yoder wrote: > At 5/28/08 9:32 AM -0400, John Summerfield > > wrote: >> >> Once I have the system cloned (so I can revert quickly and easily), >> how >> should I go about the upgrade? > > Always choose the "Archive and Install" option - I foolishly did the > plain > Upgrade option from 10.4->10.5, which caused a terribly unstable > system. And I've always done upgrades and not had a problem (at least with installing 10.4 and 10.5, I don't remember what I did to install 10.3) -- Battlemage? That's not a profesion. It barely qulaifies as a hobby. 'Battlemage' is about impressive a title as 'Lord of the Dance'. I'm adding Lord of the Dance to my titles. From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Fri May 30 07:18:00 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Fri May 30 07:18:07 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> <483FB72E.5000006@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: <48400C98.1000501@corridors.wa.edu.au> Fred Reitberger wrote: G'day, Fred. > John, > > If you have an external disk and a system with a DVD drive then you can > create a partition on the external drive large enough to hold the > installer image. Then use disk utility to restore the install disk to > the hard disk partition. You then will have an install drive you can > use. One word of caution, when using restore in disk utility drag the > root partition of the DVD to the source window. If you drag the > installer partition the drive will not be bootable. > > I do this all of the time and in fact have used a 10gig USB stick this > way as well. It makes for a very fast install! I like the sound of the stick[1]; I don't have the install DVD to hand (It's at work, I'm home); is my 4 Gbyte sandisk cruser big enough? My Mac lappy's only got USB1, does anyone know whether the USB copy can be made from Linux? Copying to a real ATA disk is possible too[2], I imagine I can do that to the xserve in target mode; can I choose which disk to boot from? [1] but I don't think I can boot it, this is G4. It might not be quick either, but if it doesn't keep stopping to ask stupid questions I don't care. [2] From Linux to a disk in a USB2 enclosure, or from the xserve by mounting the DVD over NFS, or even target mode (I presume) by removing all other disks. > > Fred > > > > At 4:13 PM +0800 5/30/08, John Summerfield wrote: >> Andrew Oliver wrote: >>> >>> On May 28, 2008, at 3:44 PM, John Summerfield wrote: >>> >>>> I was hoping this would be possible. Is the result of this asr >>>> command a bootable disk? To clone a disk on Linux, I'd want it >>>> unmounted and therefore that form would not be possible. >>> >>> As per 'man asr': >>> >>>> HISTORY >>>> Apple Software Restore got its start as a field service >>>> restoration tool >>>> used to reconfigure computers' software to 'factory' state. It >>>> later >>>> became a more general software restore mechanism and software >>>> installa- >>>> tion helper application for various Apple computer products. >>>> ASR has >>>> been used in manufacturing processes and in shipping computers' >>>> System >>>> Software Installers. >>> >>> Since it's used at that level, it's clear that asr-based clones are, >>> indeed, bootable, especially with the help of bless. >>> >>> Now, if you're cloning a live system with changing data, you're >>> taking your chances - it may or may not boot depending on which files >>> change during the clone. That said, to date I've yet to have a >>> problem with it. >> >> What fun! >> >> The xserve doesn't like the install DVD. TheBoss thought it pretty >> funny when I explained it to him. The xserve has a CD drive. >> >> It happens I have a laCie firewire CD burner or two around, I'll see >> next week ehether I can put a DVD-ROM drive in, we have a stack of >> those too. >> >> The other alternative is target mode. I have two official Apple >> documents here, and they differ as to which should be in target mode. >> Never mind, target mode only exposes one drive; on the xserve I need >> two for the preliminary backup. On the laptop (administration >> computer) it would need to export the DVD drive, and I don't think >> that will happen. >> >> >> To clone the system, I booted to single-user mode. asr is being >> difficult. >> >> Since I've booted to single-user mode, no volumes (is this the right >> word? In Linux I'd say "partitions" or "filesystems") are mounted. >> Therefore pretty much all the examples of ars usage are irrelevant. >> >> >> I have tried these >> asr -source /dev/rdisk0 -target /dev/rdisk3 -erase >> asr -source /dev/disk0 -target /dev/disk3 -erase >> and both forms complain >> "Couldn't initialize disk arbitration - Cannot allocate memory" and >> some other messages. >> >> Google doesn't know. I don't know. I'm going home. >> >> I will be back >> >> >> ps now it's booted to multi-user mode, I have a working asr command: >> asr -source / -target /dev/disk3s3 -erase >> >> >> >> -- >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-admin mailing list >> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > From Fred at Reitberger.org Fri May 30 07:42:07 2008 From: Fred at Reitberger.org (Fred Reitberger) Date: Fri May 30 07:42:19 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <48400C98.1000501@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> <483FB72E.5000006@corridors.wa.edu.au> <48400C98.1000501@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: The install DVD is a dual layer so you need around 7 gig of space. The 4 gig will not cut it. I forgot to add that if you call Applecare and ask for install CDs they will send them to you. There might be a small charge at worst. By using Disk Utility you get away from all of the command line things and target disk modes. I have an 80 gig firewire drive that has four partitions. One is the server installer, two is the client installer, three is a client installed and four is server installed. By selecting which partition to boot from I can install or test nearly any configuration. Hope this makes sense and helps! Fred At 10:18 PM +0800 5/30/08, John Summerfield wrote: >Fred Reitberger wrote: >G'day, Fred. >>John, >> >>If you have an external disk and a system with a DVD drive then you >>can create a partition on the external drive large enough to hold >>the installer image. Then use disk utility to restore the install >>disk to the hard disk partition. You then will have an install >>drive you can use. One word of caution, when using restore in disk >>utility drag the root partition of the DVD to the source window. >>If you drag the installer partition the drive will not be bootable. >> >>I do this all of the time and in fact have used a 10gig USB stick >>this way as well. It makes for a very fast install! > >I like the sound of the stick[1]; I don't have the install DVD to >hand (It's at work, I'm home); is my 4 Gbyte sandisk cruser big >enough? > >My Mac lappy's only got USB1, does anyone know whether the USB copy >can be made from Linux? > >Copying to a real ATA disk is possible too[2], I imagine I can do >that to the xserve in target mode; can I choose which disk to boot >from? > > >[1] but I don't think I can boot it, this is G4. It might not be >quick either, but if it doesn't keep stopping to ask stupid >questions I don't care. >[2] From Linux to a disk in a USB2 enclosure, or from the xserve by >mounting the DVD over NFS, or even target mode (I presume) by >removing all other disks. > >> >>Fred >> >> >> >>At 4:13 PM +0800 5/30/08, John Summerfield wrote: >>>Andrew Oliver wrote: >>>> >>>>On May 28, 2008, at 3:44 PM, John Summerfield wrote: >>>> >>>>>I was hoping this would be possible. Is the result of this asr >>>>>command a bootable disk? To clone a disk on Linux, I'd want it >>>>>unmounted and therefore that form would not be possible. >>>> >>>>As per 'man asr': >>>> >>>>>HISTORY >>>>> Apple Software Restore got its start as a field service >>>>>restoration tool >>>>> used to reconfigure computers' software to 'factory' state. It later >>>>> became a more general software restore mechanism and >>>>>software installa- >>>>> tion helper application for various Apple computer products. ASR has >>>>> been used in manufacturing processes and in shipping >>>>>computers' System >>>>> Software Installers. >>>> >>>>Since it's used at that level, it's clear that asr-based clones >>>>are, indeed, bootable, especially with the help of bless. >>>> >>>>Now, if you're cloning a live system with changing data, you're >>>>taking your chances - it may or may not boot depending on which >>>>files change during the clone. That said, to date I've yet to >>>>have a problem with it. >>> >>>What fun! >>> >>>The xserve doesn't like the install DVD. TheBoss thought it pretty >>>funny when I explained it to him. The xserve has a CD drive. >>> >>>It happens I have a laCie firewire CD burner or two around, I'll >>>see next week ehether I can put a DVD-ROM drive in, we have a >>>stack of those too. >>> >>>The other alternative is target mode. I have two official Apple >>>documents here, and they differ as to which should be in target >>>mode. Never mind, target mode only exposes one drive; on the >>>xserve I need two for the preliminary backup. On the laptop >>>(administration computer) it would need to export the DVD drive, >>>and I don't think that will happen. >>> >>> >>>To clone the system, I booted to single-user mode. asr is being difficult. >>> >>>Since I've booted to single-user mode, no volumes (is this the >>>right word? In Linux I'd say "partitions" or "filesystems") are >>>mounted. Therefore pretty much all the examples of ars usage are >>>irrelevant. >>> >>> >>>I have tried these >>> asr -source /dev/rdisk0 -target /dev/rdisk3 -erase >>> asr -source /dev/disk0 -target /dev/disk3 -erase >>>and both forms complain >>>"Couldn't initialize disk arbitration - Cannot allocate memory" >>>and some other messages. >>> >>>Google doesn't know. I don't know. I'm going home. >>> >>>I will be back >>> >>> >>>ps now it's booted to multi-user mode, I have a working asr command: >>>asr -source / -target /dev/disk3s3 -erase >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>MacOSX-admin mailing list >>>MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >>>http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >MacOSX-admin mailing list >MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin -- --------------------- Fred Reitberger 352-754-8806 fred@reitberger.org --------------------- From daniel at highdesertchurch.com Fri May 30 07:42:29 2008 From: daniel at highdesertchurch.com (Daniel Hazelbaker) Date: Fri May 30 07:42:33 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <48400C98.1000501@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <483D5ED2.3000502@corridors.wa.edu.au> <874B7B60-1F35-44F8-BEEC-A5362350B1FE@highdesertchurch.com> <483DE045.5020904@corridors.wa.edu.au> <483FB72E.5000006@corridors.wa.edu.au> <48400C98.1000501@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: On May 30, 2008, at 7:18 AM, John Summerfield wrote: > Fred Reitberger wrote: > G'day, Fred. >> John, >> If you have an external disk and a system with a DVD drive then you >> can create a partition on the external drive large enough to hold >> the installer image. Then use disk utility to restore the install >> disk to the hard disk partition. You then will have an install >> drive you can use. One word of caution, when using restore in disk >> utility drag the root partition of the DVD to the source window. >> If you drag the installer partition the drive will not be bootable. >> I do this all of the time and in fact have used a 10gig USB stick >> this way as well. It makes for a very fast install! > > I like the sound of the stick[1]; I don't have the install DVD to > hand (It's at work, I'm home); is my 4 Gbyte sandisk cruser big > enough? Doubtful. I think the install DVD is dual layer, so it is over 4.7GB, but you can't boot from it anyway on a G4 XServe (i've already tried). The other way you can go about this is to just boot off of the Tiger install DVD to make the backup. If for whatever reason that won't work for you either then you can start up a Mac laptop (or desktop, but laptop is easier to move around) into target disk mode and boot the XServe off of your laptop's HDD so you can make the clone. If you have a newer laptop/desktop (intel or later for sure does it I think) then it will target disk mode the DVD drive as well so you can put your laptop in target disk mode, put the leopard DVD in the laptop drive, and boot the xserve off the dvd in the laptop drive. Daniel From scott_ribe at killerbytes.com Fri May 30 08:44:44 2008 From: scott_ribe at killerbytes.com (Scott Ribe) Date: Fri May 30 08:44:49 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just remember before cloning a drive, make sure that "ignore permissions" is turned off on the destination volume. -- Scott Ribe scott_ribe@killerbytes.com http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice From alstos at chowan.edu Fri May 30 11:35:37 2008 From: alstos at chowan.edu (Susan Alston) Date: Fri May 30 11:35:44 2008 Subject: Installing Leopard 10.5.3 Mac OS X Update Combined Message-ID: <8a4711520805301135k2fd70830h769a413af3208c9a@mail.gmail.com> I have done an archive and install to move to the Leopard Operating System. Then, after downloading the 10.5.3 update to Leopard, it says restart will be required, and on the reboot, the software update window comes up on a blue screen with a big arrow on the hard drive and it says installing 1 item and configuring installation, but the blue bar does not move. We have two accounts (administrator and student) set up on the machine. Student is usually the login account. I have changed this in security->general to disable automatic login for all accounts and get the same response. If I set the administrator account as the default login I get the same response. What do I need to do for this update to proceed? -- Susan Alston Internet Developer/Blackboard Administrator Chowan University 252-398-6263 From heavyboots2k at yahoo.com Fri May 30 12:14:25 2008 From: heavyboots2k at yahoo.com (Eric Taylor) Date: Fri May 30 12:14:29 2008 Subject: upgrading from Tiger to Leopard on an XServe In-Reply-To: <20080530185922.EE3451B2F6B@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <752979.16871.qm@web33308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It doesn't sound like you're about to make this mistake, but just to reiterate since Apple's docs are apparently vague, don't install to the XServe while it is in target mode. Always put the other computer in target mode and attach it to the XServe instead. The installer checks what hardware you're running on and if it isn't an XServe it doesn't install some of the hardware monitoring goodies that are XServe specific. (Well, it didn't back in 10.3 which is the last time I made that mistake, lol.) Best of luck! Eric. -- ... I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?!?" -Real Genius, 1985 heavyboots2k@yahoo.com From shoop at iwiring.net Fri May 30 13:10:40 2008 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Fri May 30 13:25:54 2008 Subject: upgrading from Tiger to Leopard on an XServe In-Reply-To: <752979.16871.qm@web33308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <752979.16871.qm@web33308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0FC45181-1612-45BA-97EC-9F96B237DBAF@iwiring.net> On May 30, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Eric Taylor wrote: > It doesn't sound like you're about to make this mistake, but just to > reiterate since Apple's docs are apparently vague, don't install to > the XServe while it is in target mode. Always put the other computer > in target mode and attach it to the XServe instead. > > The installer checks what hardware you're running on and if it isn't > an XServe it doesn't install some of the hardware monitoring goodies > that are XServe specific. (Well, it didn't back in 10.3 which is the > last time I made that mistake, lol.) Actually it installs them, but doesn't configure them for use. That is an easy fix. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist iWiring / U.S. Technical Services shoop@iwiring.net AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response for urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From eric.garneau at bbdo.ca Fri May 30 13:21:11 2008 From: eric.garneau at bbdo.ca (Eric Garneau) Date: Fri May 30 13:36:24 2008 Subject: NFS server automount...not responding Message-ID: I have an xserve running Mac OS X Server (10.4.11) with an XRAID that is very slow. For example, the current throughput for AFP is 831KB/sec. Looking in the System Log, I see that every minute I have this error : May 30 16:11:41 mtlxserve02 kernel[0]: nfs server automount -fstab [381]: not responding What could be the cause and could this be what's slowing the server? Eric Garneau BBDO Montreal Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. This message and any attachments contain information, which may be confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information. Please be aware that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, kindly notify us by e-mail to helpdesk@bbdo.com. We appreciate your cooperation. From stefano.mori at zen.co.uk Sat May 31 06:40:09 2008 From: stefano.mori at zen.co.uk (Stefano Mori) Date: Sat May 31 06:56:27 2008 Subject: NetAuthAgent Message-ID: <416E0A4A-EA1C-4935-9FB6-61756AF79CD0@zen.co.uk> Having a problem with client Leopard NetAuthAgent dialog popping up to ask for a password when using "Finder > Connect to server..." to mount an AFP volume on a Leopard Mac OS X Server, even though I already have a valid Kerberos ticket. I can actually type a wrong password into the NetAuthAgent dialog and it will proceed to mount the share anyway, presumably using the ticket (guest access is disabled). I've tried this on 4 different machines, each connecting to the same share, and two of them simply connect without NetAuthAgent appearing (correct behavior), but the other two of them do invoke it. They did this with 10.5.2 and also now 10.5.3. The 4 Macs have slightly different setups, one is my own laptop I've been using for years, Leopard installed clean from DVD, the others are new, one was imaged with a Leopard image, and one was a simple DVD install. I can't see any obvious pattern but then I don't know where I should be looking. Meanwhile dozens of Tiger Macs bound to the server can mount the share using Kerberos fine. The server in question is a clean install of Leopard but the directory archive was imported from an Tiger 10.4.11 -> Leopard upgrade on the same box. So assuming that the clients or server is misconfigured somehow, what config files and cashes does NetAuthAgent rely on? What's the system checking when it decides to invoke it, even though the Kerberos tickets are present on the client, both TGT and for the afp service? Many thanks in advance, Stefano