From markus at ruggiero.ch Sun Jun 1 12:38:36 2008 From: markus at ruggiero.ch (Markus Ruggiero) Date: Sun Jun 1 12:48:46 2008 Subject: *** JUNK MAIL *** Leopard issue - password reqd with connect L2TP VPN Message-ID: <4CF7F1D1-88B1-4CE9-900F-820C08E02F4C@ruggiero.ch> I have a small problem with a Leopard client that has been upgraded (archive and install) from Tiger. This is my family's shared iBook. I have (under Tiger) configured a VPN L2TP connection to a remote server. My account is admin, my wive and daughter each use non-admin accounts. From all accounts it was possible to connect VPN from the menu bar icon. However after upgrading to Leopard all (!) accounts require a password when trying to connect. There is no checkbox that would allow to store that password in the keychain. This is rather annoying for both my wife and my daughter. Can this be changed? Is this a problem or a feature? Thanks for your help ---markus--- From bsilver at chrononomicon.com Thu Jun 5 05:20:20 2008 From: bsilver at chrononomicon.com (Bart Silverstrim) Date: Thu Jun 5 05:20:13 2008 Subject: Putting systems on an AD domain Message-ID: <4847DA04.8000105@chrononomicon.com> I know, this is rehashed and rehashed in different places, but I wondered if anyone had firsthand knowledge/experience with putting the latest OS X on an Active Directory domain and information, *up to date* information, on life administrating a large number of MacBooks in a Windows environment. We need to put a couple hundred of the buggers into a primarily Windows shop and the boss wants them to use AD to connect to home directories in a wireless networking environment. We also have some icons/internet shortcuts that "all users" will need; in Windows, this was done by sticking the relevant shortcuts into c:\documents and settings\all users\desktop or the relevant start menu folder. The Mac...? I also thought there were gotcha's with DHCP from a Windows DNS/DHCP system, where the DNS name records weren't updated "properly" the way Windows systems do. It was a vague recollection; any truth to that? Again, I know there's info out there and a favorite answer is "Google it!", but OS X has changed over time and there are lots of bits of leftover cruft still floating out there with information that's out of date, and I'm looking for more up-to-date information along with personal experiences of things to look out for as of recent OS X releases, so if the list could be so kind as to share...we'd appreciate it. -Bart From bsilver at chrononomicon.com Thu Jun 5 06:22:55 2008 From: bsilver at chrononomicon.com (Bart Silverstrim) Date: Thu Jun 5 06:22:46 2008 Subject: Putting systems on an AD domain In-Reply-To: <4847DA04.8000105@chrononomicon.com> References: <4847DA04.8000105@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: <4847E8AF.8060408@chrononomicon.com> Bart Silverstrim wrote: > I know, this is rehashed and rehashed in different places, but I > wondered if anyone had firsthand knowledge/experience with putting the > latest OS X on an Active Directory domain and information, *up to date* > information, on life administrating a large number of MacBooks in a > Windows environment. Extra followup...naming systems when deploying an image. The Macs need to be imaged for a baseline configuration. How would the Macs get their system names, or would this be an issue? Windows systems can't be straight-imaged as a carbon copy because if you have a Windows network name (and SID), they would have periodic communications problems on the network as the system names would conflict or seemingly random issues with duplicate SIDs interacting with Active Directory. Is there a similar concern for the Macintoshes, and how would we get around it? What is the preferred procedure, in your experiences, for taking a baseline system and getting it cloned out to a hundred systems? We have wireless, we could probably get firewire drives...we're still trying to get allocations for an Xserve, so we don't have an OS X Server available at the moment (if it were an option, what is the advantage over other copying/management solutions?) Any help/guidance/links? -Bart From bsilver at chrononomicon.com Fri Jun 6 06:33:57 2008 From: bsilver at chrononomicon.com (Bart Silverstrim) Date: Fri Jun 6 06:33:41 2008 Subject: Icons for all users Message-ID: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> In Windows, you can put an icon into c:\documents and settings\all users\desktop to have an icon for all users who log in. Is there an analogous way to do this in OS X? From shawnce at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 09:49:31 2008 From: shawnce at gmail.com (Shawn Erickson) Date: Fri Jun 6 09:49:35 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > In Windows, you can put an icon into c:\documents and settings\all > users\desktop to have an icon for all users who log in. > > Is there an analogous way to do this in OS X? Nope and you should not place anything on the users desktop (or the in dock) unless asked or allowed by the user. If your application is installed (or copied by the user) under /Applications all users will see and have access to it (assuming proper file permissions). -Shawn From shawnce at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 09:50:58 2008 From: shawnce at gmail.com (Shawn Erickson) Date: Fri Jun 6 09:51:01 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Bart Silverstrim > wrote: >> In Windows, you can put an icon into c:\documents and settings\all >> users\desktop to have an icon for all users who log in. >> >> Is there an analogous way to do this in OS X? > > Nope and you should not place anything on the users desktop (or the in > dock) unless asked or allowed by the user. > > If your application is installed (or copied by the user) under > /Applications all users will see and have access to it (assuming > proper file permissions). Sorry thought this email was on one of the developers lists... Can you outline what exactly you are trying to achieve? ...and in what context? (systems you manage, etc.) -Shawn From jearle at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 10:07:06 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Fri Jun 6 10:07:10 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60806061007p5a2af413r30f0267683aa1e9d@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Shawn Erickson wrote: > Can you outline what exactly you are trying to achieve? ...and in what > context? (systems you manage, etc.) In other words, no there is no simple, straight-forward method of replicating the Windows "All Users" folders. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net Hosting :: http://cat5.org From bsilver at chrononomicon.com Fri Jun 6 13:08:33 2008 From: bsilver at chrononomicon.com (Bart Silverstrim) Date: Fri Jun 6 13:08:31 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: <48499941.1050209@chrononomicon.com> Shawn Erickson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Bart Silverstrim >> wrote: >>> In Windows, you can put an icon into c:\documents and settings\all >>> users\desktop to have an icon for all users who log in. >>> >>> Is there an analogous way to do this in OS X? >> Nope and you should not place anything on the users desktop (or the in >> dock) unless asked or allowed by the user. >> >> If your application is installed (or copied by the user) under >> /Applications all users will see and have access to it (assuming >> proper file permissions). > > Sorry thought this email was on one of the developers lists... > > Can you outline what exactly you are trying to achieve? ...and in what > context? (systems you manage, etc.) About 200 laptops used by students in a public school that don't want to click on Finder->applications to run an application :-/ We need to image them and deploy them over the summer to update/configure things to our primarily Active-Directory network. One of the things users want is to have icons all over the place to find "common applications" they use. In Windows, we do this with the "all users" skeleton profile directory that is merged with their own when they log in. OS X uses home directories to configure preferences, so to my knowledge it wouldn't work, so I thought I'd ask here :-) From andrew.merenbach at ucla.edu Fri Jun 6 13:10:36 2008 From: andrew.merenbach at ucla.edu (Andrew Merenbach) Date: Fri Jun 6 13:10:49 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: <48499941.1050209@chrononomicon.com> References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> <48499941.1050209@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: <20080606131036.i9k51gfuy8s0s8k0@mail.ucla.edu> Quoting Bart Silverstrim : > Shawn Erickson wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Bart Silverstrim >>> wrote: >>>> In Windows, you can put an icon into c:\documents and settings\all >>>> users\desktop to have an icon for all users who log in. >>>> >>>> Is there an analogous way to do this in OS X? >>> Nope and you should not place anything on the users desktop (or the in >>> dock) unless asked or allowed by the user. >>> >>> If your application is installed (or copied by the user) under >>> /Applications all users will see and have access to it (assuming >>> proper file permissions). >> >> Sorry thought this email was on one of the developers lists... >> >> Can you outline what exactly you are trying to achieve? ...and in what >> context? (systems you manage, etc.) > > About 200 laptops used by students in a public school that don't want > to click on Finder->applications to run an application :-/ > > We need to image them and deploy them over the summer to > update/configure things to our primarily Active-Directory network. One > of the things users want is to have icons all over the place to find > "common applications" they use. > > In Windows, we do this with the "all users" skeleton profile directory > that is merged with their own when they log in. OS X uses home > directories to configure preferences, so to my knowledge it wouldn't > work, so I thought I'd ask here :-) Hi! If all you want to do is provide easy access to your applications, why not make use of the Dock at the bottom of the screen? Cheers, Andrew From bsilver at chrononomicon.com Fri Jun 6 13:13:21 2008 From: bsilver at chrononomicon.com (Bart Silverstrim) Date: Fri Jun 6 13:13:07 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: <20080606131036.i9k51gfuy8s0s8k0@mail.ucla.edu> References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> <48499941.1050209@chrononomicon.com> <20080606131036.i9k51gfuy8s0s8k0@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <48499A61.7070303@chrononomicon.com> Andrew Merenbach wrote: > Quoting Bart Silverstrim : > >> Shawn Erickson wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Shawn Erickson >>> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Bart Silverstrim >>>> wrote: >>>>> In Windows, you can put an icon into c:\documents and settings\all >>>>> users\desktop to have an icon for all users who log in. >>>>> >>>>> Is there an analogous way to do this in OS X? >>>> Nope and you should not place anything on the users desktop (or the in >>>> dock) unless asked or allowed by the user. >>>> >>>> If your application is installed (or copied by the user) under >>>> /Applications all users will see and have access to it (assuming >>>> proper file permissions). >>> >>> Sorry thought this email was on one of the developers lists... >>> >>> Can you outline what exactly you are trying to achieve? ...and in what >>> context? (systems you manage, etc.) >> >> About 200 laptops used by students in a public school that don't want >> to click on Finder->applications to run an application :-/ >> >> We need to image them and deploy them over the summer to >> update/configure things to our primarily Active-Directory network. One >> of the things users want is to have icons all over the place to find >> "common applications" they use. >> >> In Windows, we do this with the "all users" skeleton profile directory >> that is merged with their own when they log in. OS X uses home >> directories to configure preferences, so to my knowledge it wouldn't >> work, so I thought I'd ask here :-) > > Hi! If all you want to do is provide easy access to your applications, > why not make use of the Dock at the bottom of the screen? Where do you set what non-standard icons/shortcuts you want for every user to have in their dock? From andrew.merenbach at ucla.edu Fri Jun 6 13:16:41 2008 From: andrew.merenbach at ucla.edu (Andrew Merenbach) Date: Fri Jun 6 13:16:56 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: <48499A61.7070303@chrononomicon.com> References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> <48499941.1050209@chrononomicon.com> <20080606131036.i9k51gfuy8s0s8k0@mail.ucla.edu> <48499A61.7070303@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: <20080606131641.5xqup5u8g8gs4kwg@mail.ucla.edu> Quoting Bart Silverstrim : > Andrew Merenbach wrote: >> Quoting Bart Silverstrim : >> >>> Shawn Erickson wrote: >>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Bart Silverstrim >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> In Windows, you can put an icon into c:\documents and settings\all >>>>>> users\desktop to have an icon for all users who log in. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there an analogous way to do this in OS X? >>>>> Nope and you should not place anything on the users desktop (or the in >>>>> dock) unless asked or allowed by the user. >>>>> >>>>> If your application is installed (or copied by the user) under >>>>> /Applications all users will see and have access to it (assuming >>>>> proper file permissions). >>>> >>>> Sorry thought this email was on one of the developers lists... >>>> >>>> Can you outline what exactly you are trying to achieve? ...and in what >>>> context? (systems you manage, etc.) >>> >>> About 200 laptops used by students in a public school that don't want >>> to click on Finder->applications to run an application :-/ >>> >>> We need to image them and deploy them over the summer to >>> update/configure things to our primarily Active-Directory network. One >>> of the things users want is to have icons all over the place to find >>> "common applications" they use. >>> >>> In Windows, we do this with the "all users" skeleton profile directory >>> that is merged with their own when they log in. OS X uses home >>> directories to configure preferences, so to my knowledge it wouldn't >>> work, so I thought I'd ask here :-) >> >> Hi! If all you want to do is provide easy access to your >> applications, why not make use of the Dock at the bottom of the >> screen? > > Where do you set what non-standard icons/shortcuts you want for every > user to have in their dock? Hi, The process that I've personally used is (a) create an account, while logged in to your Admin account, that *will* be limited when it is deployed to users, but that is a normal user account at the moment; (b) log in, and add the applications to the Dock by dragging their icons in; and (c) set the soon-to-be-deployed account to be limited after you are logged into your Admin account. Cheers, Andrew From paul at cs.uoregon.edu Fri Jun 6 14:18:13 2008 From: paul at cs.uoregon.edu (Paul E. Bloch) Date: Fri Jun 6 14:28:47 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: Here is a hint that might help: Paul On Jun 6, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > In Windows, you can put an icon into c:\documents and settings\all > users\desktop to have an icon for all users who log in. > > Is there an analogous way to do this in OS X? > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From PERBIX at lmsd.org Sat Jun 7 16:08:55 2008 From: PERBIX at lmsd.org (Perbix, Michael) Date: Sat Jun 7 16:12:41 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com>, Message-ID: <06A81E8192910B41B2B3FFD57535BCF79466EB1AEF@MS1.lmsd.org> One thing you can do (if all apps are standard on all images) is to create a "temp" user, log in and set ALL preferences the way you want, including icons in the dock. You can even drag the APPLICATIONS folder to the doc or use a program from google (look on google page for the program) that lists all applications on the computer, which runs as a login item. Set up the user and all user options exactly as you want. Then remove everything under /System/Library/User Template/English.lproj and copy your temp account over to that directory. This is the template used to create new accounts. There are some things you will want to remove from the template, main one being the "login" keychain...since that should be created when the user first logs in. When a user logs in, their account will be created from this template, hence they will receive the standard config. You can always lock down certain options using MCX. -Mike ________________________________________ From: macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com [macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com] On Behalf Of Paul E. Bloch [paul@cs.uoregon.edu] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 5:18 PM To: Bart Silverstrim Cc: Admin OSX Subject: Re: Icons for all users Here is a hint that might help: Paul On Jun 6, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > In Windows, you can put an icon into c:\documents and settings\all > users\desktop to have an icon for all users who log in. > > Is there an analogous way to do this in OS X? > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin _______________________________________________ MacOSX-admin mailing list MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From mrhatken at mac.com Sun Jun 8 10:32:01 2008 From: mrhatken at mac.com (Ashley Aitken) Date: Sun Jun 8 10:32:12 2008 Subject: Changing Directory Search Order? Message-ID: <4B00DBD7-7925-45D9-97B1-7C6388BD5592@mac.com> Howdy All, I have a local directory (Unix) group on OSX Server 10.5.3 that I wanted to move to the LDAP OD Master on the same machine. I exported it and imported it appropriately. Two questions: 1. Can I now delete the local group without causing any problems (at least ones that can't be reversed by recreating the group)? or alternatively 2. Can I change the directory search order so the LDAP directory comes before the local and BSD directories? Would this be a bad idea? The latter seems a better solution to me (since there will be a fallback to the local directory group) but I'm not sure why the search policy isn't this way in the first place. Thanks in advance for any answers/comments you may have. Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!) From kremels at kreme.com Sun Jun 8 12:03:43 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sun Jun 8 12:03:46 2008 Subject: Icons for all users In-Reply-To: <48499941.1050209@chrononomicon.com> References: <48493CC5.7020002@chrononomicon.com> <48499941.1050209@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: <386F4EEA-7722-4FCB-8631-A793D40E95E8@kreme.com> On 6-Jun-2008, at 14:08, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > We need to image them and deploy them over the summer to update/ > configure things to our primarily Active-Directory network. One of > the things users want is to have icons all over the place to find > "common applications" they use. Put them in the default dock for all users. -- May you live in interesting times From bsilver at chrononomicon.com Mon Jun 9 10:52:42 2008 From: bsilver at chrononomicon.com (Bart Silverstrim) Date: Mon Jun 9 10:52:11 2008 Subject: System spec advice Message-ID: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> Hello everyone... I'm wondering if anyone has experience with low-end Macs. I want to put together a Mac for a young child, pre-school age. He would use the Mac for watching DVD's, watching YouTube videos of things like Thomas the Tank Engine, and pre-schooler/kindergarten type flash games for learning skills. I cobbled together the remnants of a donated Indigo Mac with a fair bit of RAM, but at 350 MHz it seems to be too slow to play Flash games on the Thomas website or watch a YouTube video. I see some used Macs going for ~$400 that are in the 1 Ghz/1.24 Ghz range and am considering using it; my only other justification is that my daughter could use the machine for easily syncing her iPod Shuffle with iTunes. Would that kind of computer be decent for the kind of activities I outlined? Or perhaps I should just drop this idea...feedback? From mah at jump-ing.de Mon Jun 9 12:52:35 2008 From: mah at jump-ing.de (Markus Hitter) Date: Mon Jun 9 12:52:44 2008 Subject: System spec advice In-Reply-To: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> References: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: <9A062B05-DF0E-45BB-B644-58CB55ADD57D@jump-ing.de> Am 09.06.2008 um 19:52 schrieb Bart Silverstrim: > I see some used Macs going for ~$400 that are in the 1 Ghz/1.24 Ghz I'd either add a few more bucks to get an Intel based Mac Mini or go with a Ubuntu box. The latter can do everything you outlined - even run original iTunes (the Windows version in Wine). PPC based Macs are already second class citizens and this decline will continue. Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ From j.mccuistion at teachnet.edb.utexas.edu Mon Jun 9 12:54:58 2008 From: j.mccuistion at teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Jeff McCuistion) Date: Mon Jun 9 13:05:52 2008 Subject: mail list not accepting postings Message-ID: <1BF66A7B-A28A-4F63-A74C-2DCBD39E522E@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu> We are running an OS X Server as a mail server with several lists. When someone authorized to post sends a message to this list, it appears to get lost in the ether. When checking pending requests via the web interface, new spam posts do appear, but valid messages are not getting through and don't appear in any of the log files. No other list is affected. Any ideas why this is happening? Server System Version: Mac OS X 10.4.11 (Build 8S2169) Jeff McCuistion j.mccuistion@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu Vaughn Gross Center LAN Administrator Phone 512.232.5783 From jearle at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 13:35:21 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Mon Jun 9 13:35:26 2008 Subject: mail list not accepting postings In-Reply-To: <1BF66A7B-A28A-4F63-A74C-2DCBD39E522E@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu> References: <1BF66A7B-A28A-4F63-A74C-2DCBD39E522E@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60806091335i4d09bf2dg5ec7a4082fdfb7f7@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Jeff McCuistion wrote: > We are running an OS X Server as a mail server with several lists. When > someone authorized to post sends a message to this list, it appears to get > lost in the ether. When checking pending requests via the web interface, > new spam posts do appear, but valid messages are not getting through and > don't appear in any of the log files. No other list is affected. > Any ideas why this is happening? > > Server System Version: Mac OS X 10.4.11 (Build 8S2169) Have you got SPF checking turned on or some RBL stuff? -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net Hosting :: http://cat5.org From charles.dyer at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 14:08:52 2008 From: charles.dyer at gmail.com (Charles Dyer) Date: Mon Jun 9 14:09:03 2008 Subject: System spec advice In-Reply-To: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> References: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: <8F168208-9125-4C38-9704-CBE1D8A3642E@gmail.com> On 09 Jun 2008, at 13:52:42, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > Hello everyone... > > I'm wondering if anyone has experience with low-end Macs. > > I want to put together a Mac for a young child, pre-school age. He > would use the Mac for watching DVD's, watching YouTube videos of > things like Thomas the Tank Engine, and pre-schooler/kindergarten > type flash games for learning skills. > > I cobbled together the remnants of a donated Indigo Mac with a fair > bit of RAM, but at 350 MHz it seems to be too slow to play Flash > games on the Thomas website or watch a YouTube video. > > I see some used Macs going for ~$400 that are in the 1 Ghz/1.24 Ghz > range and am considering using it; my only other justification is > that my daughter could use the machine for easily syncing her iPod > Shuffle with iTunes. > > Would that kind of computer be decent for the kind of activities I > outlined? Or perhaps I should just drop this idea...feedback? If you can find an old eMac it would be just about perfect. I've got a 1.25 GHz eMac which handles all of that kind of thing perfectly. It's too slow for frontline work for me, I've long since replaced it with an iMac and have just replaced the replacement with a nice new AluMac, but I still keep the eMac around for use with Classic. 1.25 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 80 GB hard drive, DVD-R (single-layer only...), USB 2, FireWire 400, 17" CRT. From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Mon Jun 9 20:46:57 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Mon Jun 9 20:47:04 2008 Subject: Changing Directory Search Order? In-Reply-To: <4B00DBD7-7925-45D9-97B1-7C6388BD5592@mac.com> References: <4B00DBD7-7925-45D9-97B1-7C6388BD5592@mac.com> Message-ID: <484DF931.9040608@corridors.wa.edu.au> Ashley Aitken wrote: > > Howdy All, > > I have a local directory (Unix) group on OSX Server 10.5.3 that I wanted > to move to the LDAP OD Master on the same machine. I exported it and > imported it appropriately. > > Two questions: > > 1. Can I now delete the local group without causing any problems (at > least ones that can't be reversed by recreating the group)? I assume you mean "files" as opposed to netinfo. You can rename netinfo groups with nicl. I would rename it: vim /etc/groups /grouptorename/ ~ :wq The ~ changes the case of the character under the cursor. Test the results. Repeat once if the results not what you want:-) If the consequences might be bad, use a test group you create for the purpose. > From ahoesch at smartsoft.de Tue Jun 10 04:19:00 2008 From: ahoesch at smartsoft.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_H=F6schler?=) Date: Tue Jun 10 04:19:06 2008 Subject: Mini Mac and Philips LCD TV Message-ID: <062BA35D-36DF-11DD-96C2-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> Hi all, we have purchased a 32" Philips LCD / TV and a DVI-HDMI cable to connect this display to a Mac. The display has a native resolution of 1920x1080 pixel and is to be used for trade shows and the like to present info to people sitting or standing 3-4m in front of the screen. We are tearing our hairs out getting this display to work. It worked out of the box with a very old G4 PowerMac (with a relatively new graphics card) and with a PowerBook Pro. The graphic cards of these machines were able to drive te display with its native resolution. However, we wanted to use this display with a Mini Mac (3 years old) and all we get with this machine is 1024x768 (no other resolutions selectable) vi aVGA and nothing at all via DVI/HDMI. I suppose the graphics card of this mini mac is for whatever reason not able to generate 1920x1080 and therefore falls back to XGA. Buying a new mini mac for this is an option. We just want to make sure that the current mini macs are able to generate this resolution. Any experiences with a current Mini Mac and 1920x1080 or even with the 32" Philips LCD/TV 9603? Thanks a lot, Andreas From kremels at kreme.com Tue Jun 10 07:21:27 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Tue Jun 10 07:21:30 2008 Subject: Mini Mac and Philips LCD TV In-Reply-To: <062BA35D-36DF-11DD-96C2-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> References: <062BA35D-36DF-11DD-96C2-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> Message-ID: On 10-Jun-2008, at 05:19, Andreas H?schler wrote: > Buying a new mini mac for this is an option. We just want to make > sure that the current mini macs are able to generate this > resolution. Any experiences with a current Mini Mac and 1920x1080 or > even with the 32" Philips LCD/TV 9603 Every Mac mini going back to the PowerPC one has supported 1920x1200 DVI and 1920x1080 VGA. There is something wrong, but it's not the display abilities of the mini, so I doubt very much a new mini will solve this. -- "You're just impressed by any pretty girl who can walk and talk." "She doesn't have to talk." From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Tue Jun 10 07:46:10 2008 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (objectwerks inc) Date: Tue Jun 10 07:46:16 2008 Subject: Mini Mac and Philips LCD TV In-Reply-To: <062BA35D-36DF-11DD-96C2-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> References: <062BA35D-36DF-11DD-96C2-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> Message-ID: On Jun 10, 2008, at 5:19 AM, Andreas H?schler wrote: > Buying a new mini mac for this is an option. We just want to make > sure that the current mini macs are able to generate this > resolution. Any experiences with a current Mini Mac and 1920x1080 or > even with the 32" Philips LCD/TV 9603? I have a first gen intel mini and it works fine with a Samsung 24" monitor at 1900x1200. Did you try a different DVI/HDMI cable? just a WAG Chad From kremels at kreme.com Tue Jun 10 07:51:35 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Tue Jun 10 07:51:39 2008 Subject: System spec advice In-Reply-To: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> References: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: On 9-Jun-2008, at 11:52, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > I want to put together a Mac for a young child, pre-school age. He > would use the Mac for watching DVD's, watching YouTube videos of > things like Thomas the Tank Engine, and pre-schooler/kindergarten > type flash games for learning skills. A mac mini with a 15" flat panel. > I cobbled together the remnants of a donated Indigo Mac with a fair > bit of RAM, but at 350 MHz it seems to be too slow to play Flash > games on the Thomas website or watch a YouTube video. I have a iMac DV (teardrop, 450Mhz) and it is sluggish with flash as well. > I see some used Macs going for ~$400 that are in the 1 Ghz/1.24 Ghz > range and am considering using it; my only other justification is > that my daughter could use the machine for easily syncing her iPod > Shuffle with iTunes. Then you really need a USB 2.0 Mac as the USB 1.1 syncing is just too painful for words. Again, mac Mini. The other advantage is that with the tiny footprint you can just stick the mini away somewhere on a shelf out of the way, leaving just a flat panel and a keyboard and plenty of space. After making the switch from CRTs to Flat Panels I've noticed a huge difference in my eyes, much less strain, I don't get bleary-eyed after several hours of WoW.. er, coding I mean. Because of this, I've replaced all my CRTs with flat panels and the only CRT left is the little-used iMac DV. I figure the kids don't need the eyestrain of a CRT monitor... -- Love is like oxygen / You get too much / you get too high / Not enough and you're gonna die From ahoesch at smartsoft.de Tue Jun 10 07:57:31 2008 From: ahoesch at smartsoft.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_H=F6schler?=) Date: Tue Jun 10 07:57:46 2008 Subject: Mini Mac and Philips LCD TV In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8D165045-36FD-11DD-96C2-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> Hi, >> Buying a new mini mac for this is an option. We just want to make >> sure that the current mini macs are able to generate this resolution. >> Any experiences with a current Mini Mac and 1920x1080 or even with >> the 32" Philips LCD/TV 9603? > > I have a first gen intel mini and it works fine with a Samsung 24" > monitor at 1900x1200. Did you try a different DVI/HDMI cable? No! This one costed 40 EUR. We don't have a box full of them. :-) But the cable works great between a very recent PowerBook Po and this screen so I guess it's not the cable. 1920x1200 is a standard resolution and supposed to work, 1920x1080 is rather special!? Thanks, Andreas From kremels at kreme.com Tue Jun 10 08:05:47 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Tue Jun 10 08:05:50 2008 Subject: Mini Mac and Philips LCD TV In-Reply-To: <8D165045-36FD-11DD-96C2-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> References: <8D165045-36FD-11DD-96C2-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> Message-ID: On 10-Jun-2008, at 08:57, Andreas H?schler wrote: > 1920x1080 is rather special!? 1920x1080 is a standard VGA resolution. -- There is a tragic flaw in our precious Constitution, and I don t know what can be done to fix it. This is it: Only nut cases want to be president. From wyattearp at mac.com Tue Jun 10 15:14:20 2008 From: wyattearp at mac.com (wyattearp) Date: Tue Jun 10 15:22:54 2008 Subject: 10.3.9 server httpd issue Message-ID: I'm still on 10.3.9 because it has a CD-ROM drive and Tiger Server is on DVD Sunday night, all of a sudden my Web Server, which had been running fine for 4 years just stopped and will not restart. Here is what I'm getting, looked at all the error logs that pertain to httpd Jun 9 02:23:37 localhost servermgr_web: servermgr_web: httpd couldn't be started. Jun 9 02:23:37 localhost servermgr_web: servermgr_web: Details in the error log file (/var/log/httpd/error_log). So that points to an explanation in error_log however, /var/log/httpd/error_log stopped writing errors after this event The last thing written to /var/log/httpd/error_log is: Sun Jun 8 19:42:59 2008 notice SIGUSR1 received. Doing graceful restart Its been doing this since 19:43 on the 8th So, I figure, maybe restart, that didn't work, nothing is bringing this back online. I need this to work, or a work around because I'm working on a Masters and a third of it is dependent on that server serving webpages. If I can't get it to work, are there options for migrating the content and settings from a 10.3.x Server to 10.5 client and having it all work? -- All Good People Are Asleep and Dreaming From jearle at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 16:17:54 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Tue Jun 10 16:17:56 2008 Subject: 10.3.9 server httpd issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60806101617m4f886497u29d6b8ebc8f696a5@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM, wyattearp wrote: > The last thing written to /var/log/httpd/error_log is: > Sun Jun 8 19:42:59 2008 notice SIGUSR1 received. Doing graceful restart Disk full? /etc/hostconfig changed? -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net Hosting :: http://cat5.org From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 16:43:45 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Tue Jun 10 16:43:47 2008 Subject: 10.3.9 server httpd issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17c8e29e0806101643q51e59a40r82b430c029b04bf9@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:14 PM, wyattearp wrote: > The last thing written to /var/log/httpd/error_log is: > Sun Jun 8 19:42:59 2008 notice SIGUSR1 received. Doing graceful restart Have you installed any updates recently? If so, what? Is this the copy of apache that Mac OS X comes with or is this a custom build? If this is a custom build have you tried recompiling apache? -- Best Regards, John Musbach From grail at goldweb.com.au Tue Jun 10 19:17:58 2008 From: grail at goldweb.com.au (Alex Satrapa) Date: Tue Jun 10 19:18:14 2008 Subject: OT - Re: System spec advice In-Reply-To: References: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: On 11/06/2008, at 00:51 , LuKreme wrote: > After making the switch from CRTs to Flat Panels I've noticed a > huge difference in my eyes, much less strain, I don't get bleary- > eyed after several hours of WoW.. My experience is that I've replaced eyestrain with sore eyes - I think the iMac I'm using is simply radiating far too much infrared towards my face. That is my only complaint about the all-in-one form factor, though I have no idea whether the heat is from the logic board or just the screen backlight. Going back to a CRT now feels like someone's smeared Vaseline over my eyes! Ickky. Alex From kremels at kreme.com Tue Jun 10 20:11:13 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Tue Jun 10 20:11:16 2008 Subject: 10.3.9 server httpd issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D869ECE-4B1D-4C4E-8E4E-74B171FD574A@kreme.com> On 10-Jun-2008, at 16:14, wyattearp wrote: > Here is what I'm getting, looked at all the error logs that pertain > to httpd > Jun 9 02:23:37 localhost servermgr_web: servermgr_web: httpd > couldn't be > started. > Jun 9 02:23:37 localhost servermgr_web: servermgr_web: Details in > the error > log file (/var/log/httpd/error_log). > > /var/log/httpd/error_log stopped writing errors after this event > > The last thing written to /var/log/httpd/error_log is: > Sun Jun 8 19:42:59 2008 notice SIGUSR1 received. Doing graceful > restart Is it possible that one of your VirtualHosts is redirecting error_log to another location? That's a LONG time to have no error output. -- It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted once and for all and Oldspeak forgotten, a heretical thought...should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words. From rpeskin at rlpcon.com Thu Jun 12 16:16:41 2008 From: rpeskin at rlpcon.com (Richard Peskin) Date: Thu Jun 12 16:22:20 2008 Subject: Where is launch daemon for web service? Message-ID: <06A50F74-B232-4046-8B5D-26AE5C3CA586@rlpcon.com> One of our machines is failing to provide web sharing even though it is turned on in Sharing Prefs. (Web server not found is the error reported in the browser.) I want to look at the launch daemon plist file that starts up web services. Where is it located and what's its name? thanks, --dick peskin ____________________________________ Richard L. Peskin, RLP Consulting, Londonderry, VT http://www.rlpcon.com http://www.caip.rutgers.edu/~peskin From becker at arsc.edu Fri Jun 13 17:38:39 2008 From: becker at arsc.edu (Brandon P. Becker) Date: Fri Jun 13 17:38:54 2008 Subject: Where is launch daemon for web service? In-Reply-To: <06A50F74-B232-4046-8B5D-26AE5C3CA586@rlpcon.com> References: <06A50F74-B232-4046-8B5D-26AE5C3CA586@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.apache.httpd.plist Brandon Becker ARSC, UAF On Jun 12, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Richard Peskin wrote: > One of our machines is failing to provide web sharing even though > it is turned on in Sharing Prefs. (Web server not found is the > error reported in the browser.) I want to look at the launch daemon > plist file that starts up web services. Where is it located and > what's its name? > thanks, > --dick peskin > > > > > > ____________________________________ > Richard L. Peskin, RLP Consulting, Londonderry, VT > http://www.rlpcon.com > http://www.caip.rutgers.edu/~peskin > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > Spam > Not spam > Forget previous vote From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Sun Jun 15 20:09:23 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Sun Jun 15 20:09:29 2008 Subject: OT - Re: System spec advice In-Reply-To: References: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> Message-ID: <4855D963.9090009@corridors.wa.edu.au> Alex Satrapa wrote: > On 11/06/2008, at 00:51 , LuKreme wrote: > >> After making the switch from CRTs to Flat Panels I've noticed a huge >> difference in my eyes, much less strain, I don't get bleary-eyed after >> several hours of WoW.. > > My experience is that I've replaced eyestrain with sore eyes - I think > the iMac I'm using is simply radiating far too much infrared towards my Infrared you can feel, like putting your hands towards a hot kettle, or on a hot day, walking past a heated building (I remember the day 40 years ago when I returned from the country to Perth late on a hot day, and I could feel the heat from Perth's big stone buildings. I have, though, wondered about radiation from CRT screens, Now, my eyes are feeling their year and I've acceded to a lower (1280x1024) resolution and maybe sit a little further away, and I'm using (good DELL) LCD screens and I don't think I have that problem any more. From grail at goldweb.com.au Sun Jun 15 20:24:18 2008 From: grail at goldweb.com.au (Alex Satrapa) Date: Sun Jun 15 20:24:24 2008 Subject: OT - Re: System spec advice In-Reply-To: <4855D963.9090009@corridors.wa.edu.au> References: <484D6DEA.2090108@chrononomicon.com> <4855D963.9090009@corridors.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: On 16/06/2008, at 13:09 , John Summerfield wrote: > Infrared you can feel, like putting your hands towards a hot > kettle, or on a hot day, walking past a heated building Yup, and when I step away from the computer, I can feel the difference in temperature on my face - the iMac is radiating a significant amount of heat. Perhaps I should get some glasses (I should be wearing some anyway, but I've avoided them for 10 years due to my intense dislike for having things on my face) - most lenses on the market are IR filters by design. Alex From mrhatken at mac.com Mon Jun 16 02:15:16 2008 From: mrhatken at mac.com (Ashley Aitken) Date: Mon Jun 16 02:15:31 2008 Subject: Mac and NAS and Time Capsule and Time Machine Message-ID: <1F9E15A0-8460-4A41-8A72-7928B273EEF4@mac.com> Howdy All, I assume Time Machine require a drive running HFS+ for the target drive because of "directory linking" they require to efficiently keep live images of all the versions of the file-system. Is Time Capsule a NAS that supports NFS, SMB, and AFP with a HFS+ formatted disk? Are there any other NAS devices that support AFP that would allow the drives to be formatted as HFS+? I've seen discussion of Time Capsule being an iTunes / iPhone server. Am I correct in assuming it is just serving the files rather than providing an iTunes / iPhone service that would show up in iTunes/ iPhoto as Shared? Thanks, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!) From markus at ruggiero.ch Mon Jun 16 07:17:19 2008 From: markus at ruggiero.ch (Markus Ruggiero) Date: Mon Jun 16 07:17:27 2008 Subject: Leopard issue - password reqd with connect L2TP VPN Message-ID: Posted this some time ago but did not get any replies. I'd like to give it a second try. Thanks for your patience :-) I have a small problem with a Leopard client that has been upgraded (archive and install) from Tiger. This is my family's shared iBook. I have (under Tiger) configured a VPN L2TP connection to a remote server. My account is admin, my wive and daughter each use non-admin accounts. From all accounts it was possible to connect VPN from the menu bar icon. However after upgrading to Leopard all (!) accounts require a password when trying to connect. There is no checkbox that would allow to store that password in the keychain. This is rather annoying for both my wife and my daughter. Can this be changed? Is this a problem or a feature? Thanks for your help ---markus--- From mrhatken at mac.com Mon Jun 16 08:46:23 2008 From: mrhatken at mac.com (Ashley Aitken) Date: Mon Jun 16 08:46:32 2008 Subject: External USB drive failing with Time Machine use? Message-ID: <88DB27AE-7B53-431D-97CA-D59F41910ABA@mac.com> Howdy All, I have an external USB SATA drive that fails every 2 or 3 months when used only as a Time Machine drive. When it has failed the drive will not mount, disk repair fails and Disk Warrior cannot rebuild the directory structure. It is being used to backup (hourly) only the machine it is connected to and although the data is about 60GB only a small fraction of that changes frequently (mostly mail and photos). Is this to be expected with a USB external drive? Probably an indication of a poor USB drive enclosure? Possibly caused the Mac mini it is attached to? These are not very reliable "backups" if they only last 2-3 months. Thanks for any suggestions, comments or experiences you can share. Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!) From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 09:04:04 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Mon Jun 16 09:04:08 2008 Subject: External USB drive failing with Time Machine use? In-Reply-To: <88DB27AE-7B53-431D-97CA-D59F41910ABA@mac.com> References: <88DB27AE-7B53-431D-97CA-D59F41910ABA@mac.com> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0806160904t6ff3e3b0g8088fa895a23aa7f@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Ashley Aitken wrote: > Is this to be expected with a USB external drive? Probably an indication of > a poor USB drive enclosure? Possibly caused the Mac mini it is attached to? You probably just got a bad hard drive. I'd go ahead and replace the hard drive with a new one as while it's possible it could be a bad enclosure it's more likely it's the hard drive. I've bought quite a few generic chinese usb hard drive enclosures which I use to continuously transfer many gigs of data on my server and the enclosures/hard drives have yet to fail under the pressure the server load presents 24/7. -- Best Regards, John Musbach From mrhatken at mac.com Mon Jun 16 09:10:26 2008 From: mrhatken at mac.com (Ashley Aitken) Date: Mon Jun 16 09:10:40 2008 Subject: External USB drive failing with Time Machine use? In-Reply-To: <17c8e29e0806160904t6ff3e3b0g8088fa895a23aa7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <88DB27AE-7B53-431D-97CA-D59F41910ABA@mac.com> <17c8e29e0806160904t6ff3e3b0g8088fa895a23aa7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <616DFE50-5889-4E4E-BBA1-430CB5F46B9A@mac.com> On 17/06/2008, at 12:04 AM, John Musbach wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Ashley Aitken > wrote: >> Is this to be expected with a USB external drive? Probably an >> indication of >> a poor USB drive enclosure? Possibly caused the Mac mini it is >> attached to? > > You probably just got a bad hard drive. Thanks John, I didn't mention that the drive is a relatively new (purchased separately but at the same time as enclosure) WD 750GB (WD7500AAKS). It seems to work fine when reformatted and used independently of Time Machine (although it has not been "stress-tested" independently of Time Machine use). Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!) From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 20:46:11 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Tue Jun 17 20:46:13 2008 Subject: External USB drive failing with Time Machine use? In-Reply-To: <616DFE50-5889-4E4E-BBA1-430CB5F46B9A@mac.com> References: <88DB27AE-7B53-431D-97CA-D59F41910ABA@mac.com> <17c8e29e0806160904t6ff3e3b0g8088fa895a23aa7f@mail.gmail.com> <616DFE50-5889-4E4E-BBA1-430CB5F46B9A@mac.com> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0806172046x44d936d8x8109a6713ebca4cc@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Ashley Aitken wrote: > Thanks John, I didn't mention that the drive is a relatively new (purchased > separately but at the same time as enclosure) WD 750GB (WD7500AAKS). Well, it's quite possible that the drive was defective right from the factory. If it were me I'd go ahead and replace the drive just to be on the safe side. -- Best Regards, John Musbach From adiez at uv.es Tue Jun 24 06:16:24 2008 From: adiez at uv.es (Agustin Diez Castillo) Date: Tue Jun 24 06:47:52 2008 Subject: I can't start the web service anymore. Message-ID: <8BE163BF-D3B5-4AD5-9C0E-1CB834F59FDD@uv.es> Hi there, In mac 0SX.4.11 server, I can't start the web service anymore. Maybe the problem is related with php (it happenened for the first time after installing) a php module. I got the following message: Try to refresh the view (myIP/Web). Report the problem to the administrator if it persists. (Could not start web service - details in error log.) 100002 Any ideas? I've restarted the machine, to switch and some other stuff but w/o success so far. Any ideas? Agustin From robertcerny at mac.com Tue Jun 24 06:58:19 2008 From: robertcerny at mac.com (Robert Cerny) Date: Tue Jun 24 06:58:24 2008 Subject: I can't start the web service anymore. In-Reply-To: <8BE163BF-D3B5-4AD5-9C0E-1CB834F59FDD@uv.es> References: <8BE163BF-D3B5-4AD5-9C0E-1CB834F59FDD@uv.es> Message-ID: <56FE8916-18B0-45B7-9769-88016747617E@mac.com> Hi, what's the output of "apachectl configtest". Did you check the error log? HTH Robert On 24.6.2008, at 15:16, Agustin Diez Castillo wrote: > Hi there, > In mac 0SX.4.11 server, I can't start the web service anymore. Maybe > the problem is related with php (it happenened for the first time > after installing) a php module. > I got the following message: > Try to refresh the view (myIP/Web). Report the problem to the > administrator if it persists. (Could not start web service - details > in error log.) 100002 > Any ideas? > I've restarted the machine, to switch and some other stuff but w/o > success so far. > Any ideas? > > Agustin > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From johnmusbach1 at gmail.com Tue Jun 24 08:58:20 2008 From: johnmusbach1 at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Tue Jun 24 08:58:23 2008 Subject: I can't start the web service anymore. In-Reply-To: <8BE163BF-D3B5-4AD5-9C0E-1CB834F59FDD@uv.es> References: <8BE163BF-D3B5-4AD5-9C0E-1CB834F59FDD@uv.es> Message-ID: <17c8e29e0806240858q285afe02sd504c908afcf77e2@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Agustin Diez Castillo wrote: > I got the following message: > Try to refresh the view (myIP/Web). Report the problem to the administrator > if it persists. (Could not start web service - details in error log.) 100002 > Any ideas? What does the error log say? -- Best Regards, John Musbach From Agustin.Diez at uv.es Wed Jun 25 04:55:24 2008 From: Agustin.Diez at uv.es (Agustin Diez Castillo) Date: Wed Jun 25 04:55:36 2008 Subject: I can't start the web service anymore. Message-ID: <7528771666adiez@uv.es> Robert, The library is there and commenting line 8 in /etc/httpd/sites/+entropy-phpconf I can restart the web service. Maybe a php reinstall? ls -la /usr/local/php5/libphp5.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20504776 Sep 1 2007 /usr/local/php5/libphp5.so > Great! > > $ ls -la /usr/local/php5/libphp5.so > > ? > > HTH > Robert > > > On 24.6.2008, at 20:22, Agustin Diez Castillo wrote: > > > Processing config directory: /etc/httpd/sites/*.conf > > Processing config file: /etc/httpd/sites/+entropy-php.conf > > Syntax error on line 8 of /etc/httpd/sites/+entropy-php.conf: > > Cannot load /usr/local/php5/libphp5.so into server: (reason unknown) > > > > > >> Hi, > >> what's the output of "apachectl configtest". Did you check the error > >> log? > >> > >> HTH > >> Robert > >> > >> > >> > >> On 24.6.2008, at 15:16, Agustin Diez Castillo wrote: > >> > >>> Hi there, > >>> In mac 0SX.4.11 server, I can't start the web service anymore. Maybe > >>> the problem is related with php (it happenened for the first time > >>> after installing) a php module. > >>> I got the following message: > >>> Try to refresh the view (myIP/Web). Report the problem to the > >>> administrator if it persists. (Could not start web service - details > >>> in error log.) 100002 > >>> Any ideas? > >>> I've restarted the machine, to switch and some other stuff but w/o > >>> success so far. > >>> Any ideas? > >>> > >>> Agustin > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> MacOSX-admin mailing list > >>> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > >>> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > ****************************************************** > > Dr. Agust?n Diez Castillo > > Departament de Prehist?ria i Arqueologia > > Fundaci? General Universitat de Val?ncia > > Phone: +34 963 86 42 42 > > Avda. Blasco Iba?ez, 28 Fax: +34 963 86 42 34 > > Val?ncia 46010 > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > -- ****************************************************** Dr. Agust?n Diez Castillo Departament de Prehist?ria i Arqueologia Fundaci? General Universitat de Val?ncia Phone: +34 963 86 42 42 Avda. Blasco Iba?ez, 28 Fax: +34 963 86 42 34 Val?ncia 46010 ****************************************************** From robertcerny at mac.com Wed Jun 25 05:12:11 2008 From: robertcerny at mac.com (Robert Cerny) Date: Wed Jun 25 05:12:16 2008 Subject: I can't start the web service anymore. In-Reply-To: <7528771666adiez@uv.es> References: <7528771666adiez@uv.es> Message-ID: <9135335D-8DA8-482A-8B47-C2F5B5382D05@mac.com> Hi, are you sure that php4 is not loaded as well? HTH Robert On 25.6.2008, at 13:55, Agustin Diez Castillo wrote: > Robert, > The library is there and commenting line 8 in /etc/httpd/sites/ > +entropy-phpconf I can > restart the web service. Maybe a php reinstall? > ls -la /usr/local/php5/libphp5.so > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20504776 Sep 1 2007 /usr/local/php5/ > libphp5.so > > >> Great! >> >> $ ls -la /usr/local/php5/libphp5.so >> >> ? >> >> HTH >> Robert >> >> >> On 24.6.2008, at 20:22, Agustin Diez Castillo wrote: >> >>> Processing config directory: /etc/httpd/sites/*.conf >>> Processing config file: /etc/httpd/sites/+entropy-php.conf >>> Syntax error on line 8 of /etc/httpd/sites/+entropy-php.conf: >>> Cannot load /usr/local/php5/libphp5.so into server: (reason unknown) >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> what's the output of "apachectl configtest". Did you check the >>>> error >>>> log? >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24.6.2008, at 15:16, Agustin Diez Castillo wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> In mac 0SX.4.11 server, I can't start the web service anymore. >>>>> Maybe >>>>> the problem is related with php (it happenened for the first time >>>>> after installing) a php module. >>>>> I got the following message: >>>>> Try to refresh the view (myIP/Web). Report the problem to the >>>>> administrator if it persists. (Could not start web service - >>>>> details >>>>> in error log.) 100002 >>>>> Any ideas? >>>>> I've restarted the machine, to switch and some other stuff but w/o >>>>> success so far. >>>>> Any ideas? >>>>> >>>>> Agustin >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MacOSX-admin mailing list >>>>> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >>>>> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ****************************************************** >>> Dr. Agust?n Diez Castillo >>> Departament de Prehist?ria i Arqueologia >>> Fundaci? General Universitat de Val?ncia >>> Phone: +34 963 86 42 42 >>> Avda. Blasco Iba?ez, 28 Fax: +34 963 86 42 34 >>> Val?ncia 46010 >>> ****************************************************** >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > ****************************************************** > Dr. Agust?n Diez Castillo > Departament de Prehist?ria i Arqueologia > Fundaci? General Universitat de Val?ncia > Phone: +34 963 86 42 42 > Avda. Blasco Iba?ez, 28 Fax: +34 963 86 42 34 > Val?ncia 46010 > ****************************************************** > > > > From jearle at gmail.com Wed Jun 25 06:46:44 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Wed Jun 25 06:46:47 2008 Subject: I can't start the web service anymore. In-Reply-To: <7528771666adiez@uv.es> References: <7528771666adiez@uv.es> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60806250646m6700bf9dv28cd051bae7f1117@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Agustin Diez Castillo wrote: > Robert, > The library is there and commenting line 8 in /etc/httpd/sites/+entropy-phpconf I can > restart the web service. Maybe a php reinstall? Or just fix the syntax error. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://jearle.eu Hosting :: http://cat5.org Blog :: http://blog.23x.net From osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au Wed Jun 25 17:35:45 2008 From: osxadmin at corridors.wa.edu.au (John Summerfield) Date: Wed Jun 25 17:35:56 2008 Subject: Upgrading an xserve from Tiger to Leopard In-Reply-To: <44405DBF-F392-494C-B67F-8E458558AF60@kreme.com> References: <44405DBF-F392-494C-B67F-8E458558AF60@kreme.com> Message-ID: <4862E461.7040606@corridors.wa.edu.au> LuKreme wrote: > On 28-May-2008, at 08:44, Conrad G T Yoder wrote: >> At 5/28/08 9:32 AM -0400, John Summerfield >> wrote: >>> >>> Once I have the system cloned (so I can revert quickly and easily), how >>> should I go about the upgrade? >> >> Always choose the "Archive and Install" option - I foolishly did the >> plain >> Upgrade option from 10.4->10.5, which caused a terribly unstable system. > > And I've always done upgrades and not had a problem (at least with > installing 10.4 and 10.5, I don't remember what I did to install 10.3) > Thanks all. The major difficulties that I recall and have overcome were 1. Lack of a DVD reader. I replaced the CD burner in a firewire Lacie thingy with a spare DVD-ROM drive and that worked fine. 2. Backup the system. I replaced a drive in one of them fancy Apple enclosures with a new drive from a local PC dealer, and cloned to that from the install medium, I then popped out the old system drive, placed the clone in the "bay 1," booted and upgraded. All seems fine. Oh, when the installer asserted "1 hour and 30 minutes to go" or words to that effect, I went home. It was Friday, and I did have the entire weekend to go. If anyone from Apple's Listening, _600 or so Mbytes of post-upgrade security fix was a *nasty* shock. Windows allows one to install updates during the install process, Debian's been installing the latest available version of packages for years, and Apple can't?_ Really! I'm not sure I'd want it done unconditionally (might be slow through a modem), but I should have the choice. From Agustin.Diez at uv.es Thu Jun 26 00:36:56 2008 From: Agustin.Diez at uv.es (Agustin Diez Castillo) Date: Thu Jun 26 00:37:06 2008 Subject: I can't start the web service anymore. Message-ID: <4757121541adiez@uv.es> php4 lines are commented in httpd.conf. All this is in a Macos Server 10.4.11 I see no syntax error besides the one I did. lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 32B May 23 17:12 +entropy-php.conf -> /usr/local/php5/entropy-php.conf entropy-php.conf ###################### # # Additional PHP Apache directives, # part of the entropy.ch PHP package for Mac OS X # # For more information, go to http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/php/ # # LoadModule php5_module /usr/local/php5/libphp5.so AddModule mod_php5.c AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps DirectoryIndex index.html index.php ################################### > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Agustin Diez Castillo > wrote: > > Robert, > > The library is there and commenting line 8 in /etc/httpd/sites/+entropy-phpconf I can > > restart the web service. Maybe a php reinstall? > > Or just fix the syntax error. > > -- > Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK > jearle@gmail.com :: http://jearle.eu > Hosting :: http://cat5.org > Blog :: http://blog.23x.net > > -- ****************************************************** Dr. Agust?n Diez Castillo Departament de Prehist?ria i Arqueologia Fundaci? General Universitat de Val?ncia Phone: +34 963 86 42 42 Avda. Blasco Iba?ez, 28 Fax: +34 963 86 42 34 Val?ncia 46010 ****************************************************** From alstos at chowan.edu Thu Jun 26 06:39:28 2008 From: alstos at chowan.edu (Susan Alston) Date: Thu Jun 26 06:39:31 2008 Subject: Firewire drive for imaging Message-ID: <8a4711520806260639g7d1a2eebp902306b69025c879@mail.gmail.com> I have a Lacie drive that I use for deploying images to the Mac student computer labs that is running Mac OS 10.4 Tiger currently. I have installed Leopard (10.5.3) on one computer in the lab and wish to put this image on the Firewire drive to deploy to the rest of the lab. Can I do this or does the Firewire OS need to be upgraded to Leopard first? -- Susan Alston Internet Developer/Blackboard Administrator Chowan University 252-398-6263 From neil at laubenthal.net Thu Jun 26 07:52:34 2008 From: neil at laubenthal.net (Neil Laubenthal) Date: Thu Jun 26 07:52:40 2008 Subject: Firewire drive for imaging In-Reply-To: <8a4711520806260639g7d1a2eebp902306b69025c879@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a4711520806260639g7d1a2eebp902306b69025c879@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080626105234.hunnbjwl7bscs8oo@webmail.his.com> Are you booting from the FW drive and then deploying the image from it first? If so . . .I would go ahead and install/update Leopard on the FW drive, boot from it and then image the single computer. Boot the other machines from the FW, format the drive (that way you'll get the Leopard format and disk drivers with no left over stuff) then restore the image. You'll still have the hostname/IP/Appletalk name issues with machines cloned from the same image . . . so don't forget to fix all of that stuff as part of your deployment. Quoting Susan Alston : > I have a Lacie drive that I use for deploying images to the Mac student > computer labs that is running Mac OS 10.4 Tiger currently. I have installed > Leopard (10.5.3) on one computer in the lab and wish to put this image on > the Firewire drive to deploy to the rest of the lab. Can I do this or does > the Firewire OS need to be upgraded to Leopard first? From mrhatken at mac.com Fri Jun 27 23:59:06 2008 From: mrhatken at mac.com (Ashley Aitken) Date: Fri Jun 27 23:59:22 2008 Subject: Groups displayed in System Preferences > Accounts? Message-ID: <4C02EE8D-60A5-4FCB-9BB5-81684DF8698A@mac.com> Howdy All, Does anyone know how MacOSX Leopard Client determines which groups to display in System Preferences > Accounts? I have one group (GID=1001) that is displayed and was there when I upgraded to Leopard, one I created in Accounts (GID=500) post upgrade which is displayed, but another (GID=1000) that was there when I upgraded but is not displayed. BTW, it was also not visible in the Finder's Inspector, when I got info for a folder with that group it displayed as unknown. That is, until I gave it a "Full Name" in WorkGroup Manager, then it appeared ok (using the short name) in the Inspector. Go figure! This particular group (GID=1000) does have a group with the same name in the LDAP directory to which this machine is attached, could that be why it is being hidden? I restarted System Preferences after adding the "Full Name" but it still did not appear in Systems Preferences > Accounts I know I can use WorkGroup Manager to see all the groups in the local directory, I'm just trying to understand why it is not visible in System Preferences. Cheers, Ashley. PS Of course, the majority of groups on the system are not displayed in System Preferences > Accounts. I'm just not sure why these two are and others I would like to be displayed aren't - I would like to make them visible. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!)