From conrad at yoders.org Wed Jul 2 08:01:01 2008 From: conrad at yoders.org (Conrad G T Yoder) Date: Wed Jul 2 08:01:09 2008 Subject: Linksys/Mac wireless incompatibilities Message-ID: I have now tried two different Linksys wireless N routers - the WRVS4400N and the WRT310N, and both are not behaving well with my Mac wireless, using WPA (things are fine with no encryption). With my MacBook Pro, I have to manually connect (re-type in both the SSID and password), and with my PowerBook (G4, 500MHz), it won't connect at all (" The wireless network 'MyWifi' does not support the requested encryption method."). My old WRT54GL works fine here, both with Linksys and sveasoft firmware. Anyone having success with with Linksys or other (non-Apple, of course) N routers? Also, how does one tell at what speed your Mac's wireless is connected? -Conrad -- Is there a suspect in your family? Contact the Ministry of Information. Ring 100 00 00. From jearle at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 08:40:32 2008 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Wed Jul 2 08:40:35 2008 Subject: Linksys/Mac wireless incompatibilities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60807020840m6c3d2cccxc9adb90f2165f052@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Conrad G T Yoder wrote: > Also, how does one tell at what speed your Mac's wireless is connected? Ooh, I know this one. I had to look it up on Monday. There's an app called "Network Utility". Select "en1" or whatever your airport connection calls itself. Link speed is listed there. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://jearle.eu Hosting :: http://cat5.org Blog :: http://blog.23x.net From dennyrex at mindspring.com Wed Jul 2 09:49:43 2008 From: dennyrex at mindspring.com (Rick Sanford) Date: Wed Jul 2 09:49:49 2008 Subject: Linksys/Mac wireless incompatibilities In-Reply-To: <5bbc0cd60807020840m6c3d2cccxc9adb90f2165f052@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bbc0cd60807020840m6c3d2cccxc9adb90f2165f052@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0F5D2EE4-D112-4F84-8201-56C67E1D8175@mindspring.com> On Jul 2, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Jared Earle wrote: > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Conrad G T Yoder > wrote: >> Also, how does one tell at what speed your Mac's wireless is >> connected? > > Ooh, I know this one. I had to look it up on Monday. > > There's an app called "Network Utility". Select "en1" or whatever your > airport connection calls itself. Link speed is listed there. > > -- > Jared Earle That's what I use as well. 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How do I stop this activity? Safari is not in the login actions for administrator and there is no way to set programs to run at login for the student account that I can see.. -- Susan Alston Internet Developer/Blackboard Administrator Chowan University 252-398-6263 From crank at pushhere.com Thu Jul 10 12:47:40 2008 From: crank at pushhere.com (Chris Rank) Date: Thu Jul 10 12:53:55 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA Message-ID: <3F9F0D22-4DCE-4E6D-885C-F82401684D1F@pushhere.com> Great, So now we have push calendar for Exchange in the iPhone, yay! iCal Sever users on MacOS X Server? Well, not so much. Thanks Apple. Really, Thanks. From crank at pushhere.com Thu Jul 10 13:04:59 2008 From: crank at pushhere.com (Chris Rank) Date: Thu Jul 10 13:05:03 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: <4D943BAE-378E-421F-8A1C-22DBF067D2D1@melin.org> References: <3F9F0D22-4DCE-4E6D-885C-F82401684D1F@pushhere.com> <4D943BAE-378E-421F-8A1C-22DBF067D2D1@melin.org> Message-ID: On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Melin Joacim wrote: > It's quite embarrassing, really. I've heard several suggestions > that Apple will address this in an upcoming release of OS X Server, > but I seriously doubt it. There are very few, if any, open source > options to Exchange Server, and the idea that Apple actually will > develop something from scratch for OS X Server seems a bit far > fetched... > > Just my 0.02 in your favorite currency... > > Seriously, Once again, Apple shafts Enterprise customers that ACTUALLY buy Apple products. I mean, please don't get me wrong, I am not surprised in any way, but it would have been nice once, just once, for Apple to actually have some internal communication. Oh well. > On Jul 10, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Chris Rank wrote: > >> Great, >> >> So now we have push calendar for Exchange in the iPhone, yay! >> >> iCal Sever users on MacOS X Server? Well, not so much. >> >> Thanks Apple. >> >> Really, Thanks. >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-admin mailing list >> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > Kind Regards, Chris Rank Push. http://www.pushhere.com 150 N. Orange Ave Suite 300 Orlando, FL 32801 p 407.841.2299 f 407.841.0999 Just launched: http://www.workamajig.com Check out our weekly blog at http://www.pushhere.com/blog From joacim at melin.org Thu Jul 10 14:13:53 2008 From: joacim at melin.org (Melin Joacim) Date: Thu Jul 10 14:13:58 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: <3F9F0D22-4DCE-4E6D-885C-F82401684D1F@pushhere.com> References: <3F9F0D22-4DCE-4E6D-885C-F82401684D1F@pushhere.com> Message-ID: <993FA1EA-5FB6-4F08-A969-28D2176B66EB@melin.org> It's quite embarrassing, really. I've heard several suggestions that Apple will address this in an upcoming release of OS X Server, but I seriously doubt it. There are very few, if any, open source options to Exchange Server, and the idea that Apple actually will develop something from scratch for OS X Server seems a bit far fetched... Just my 0.02 in your favorite currency... On Jul 10, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Chris Rank wrote: > Great, > > So now we have push calendar for Exchange in the iPhone, yay! > > iCal Sever users on MacOS X Server? Well, not so much. > > Thanks Apple. > > Really, Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From kuehn.karl at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 14:20:26 2008 From: kuehn.karl at gmail.com (Karl Kuehn) Date: Thu Jul 10 14:21:03 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: <993FA1EA-5FB6-4F08-A969-28D2176B66EB@melin.org> References: <3F9F0D22-4DCE-4E6D-885C-F82401684D1F@pushhere.com> <993FA1EA-5FB6-4F08-A969-28D2176B66EB@melin.org> Message-ID: <53039D65-39EE-425D-9303-5600C07F6072@gmail.com> On Jul 10, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Melin Joacim wrote: > It's quite embarrassing, really. I've heard several suggestions > that Apple will address this in an upcoming release of OS X Server, > but I seriously doubt it. There are very few, if any, open source > options to Exchange Server, and the idea that Apple actually will > develop something from scratch for OS X Server seems a bit far > fetched... They already have code to do this for .Mac/MobileMe, and they have been doing "push" with Yahoo for some time. I have heard solid rumors that .Mac/MobileMe does not use Exchange for this. -- Karl Kuehn larkost@softhome.net From jwelch at bynkii.com Thu Jul 10 14:19:38 2008 From: jwelch at bynkii.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Jul 10 15:19:47 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: <993FA1EA-5FB6-4F08-A969-28D2176B66EB@melin.org> Message-ID: On 7/10/08 5:13 PM, "Melin Joacim" wrote: > It's quite embarrassing, really. I've heard several suggestions that > Apple will address this in an upcoming release of OS X Server, but I > seriously doubt it. There are very few, if any, open source options to > Exchange Server, and the idea that Apple actually will develop > something from scratch for OS X Server seems a bit far fetched... > > Just my 0.02 in your favorite currency... We get push notifications in iCal Server 2. I'll postulate that mail and the upcoming AB server in Mac OS X 10.6 Server will support push as well. -- John C. Welch Writer/Analyst Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions jwelch@bynkii.com From joacim at melin.org Thu Jul 10 15:32:19 2008 From: joacim at melin.org (Melin Joacim) Date: Thu Jul 10 15:39:13 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Calendering, yes. But what about push for email and contacts? I got fed up with waiting for Apple to make it happen and stopped using OS X Server for Email hosting and moved to Exchange Server 2003. And to my surprise, it actually works really well. Sure, there are issues to work around but in the end, it's all about making the end users happy. Comparing OWA with Squirrelmail isn't even funny, just as a very simple example, and we're talking about a product (Exchange Server 2003) that was released five years ago. On Jul 10, 2008, at 11:19 PM, John C. Welch wrote: > On 7/10/08 5:13 PM, "Melin Joacim" wrote: > >> It's quite embarrassing, really. I've heard several suggestions that >> Apple will address this in an upcoming release of OS X Server, but I >> seriously doubt it. There are very few, if any, open source options >> to >> Exchange Server, and the idea that Apple actually will develop >> something from scratch for OS X Server seems a bit far fetched... >> >> Just my 0.02 in your favorite currency... > > > > We get push notifications in iCal Server 2. I'll postulate that mail > and the > upcoming AB server in Mac OS X 10.6 Server will support push as well. > > -- > John C. Welch Writer/Analyst > Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions > jwelch@bynkii.com > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From sglewis at mac.com Thu Jul 10 14:31:21 2008 From: sglewis at mac.com (Scott G. Lewis) Date: Thu Jul 10 16:06:06 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: <993FA1EA-5FB6-4F08-A969-28D2176B66EB@melin.org> References: <3F9F0D22-4DCE-4E6D-885C-F82401684D1F@pushhere.com> <993FA1EA-5FB6-4F08-A969-28D2176B66EB@melin.org> Message-ID: I always recommend Zimbra, which maintains an excellent Mac OS X port - in fact, the only thing it can't do on the OS X side is clustering/ HA, but then it can't do that on many platforms it runs on (it really loves Red Hat Enterprise). The Zimbra open source edition is free, and supports CalDAV for iCal integration. Their AJAX client is amazing, and it has those "Exchange- ey" features like shared calendars, global address list, shared contacts, etc. They also have a Zimbra Desktop offering, which replicates much of the web interface, but in a OS X, Windows and Linux application, so offline mail is available. But most importantly, it supports standards, so you can use Apple Mail (IMAP), iCal (CalDAV), and if you're brave, you can open your LDAP server and allow for Address Book to search the GAL. For even better integration, there's the Professional (not free) edition, which adds an iSync plugin for Mac users to get full support in all three apps (mail, addresses, calendars), plus an available Mobile addon which provides ActiveSync compatibility which would enable OTA synching of all three for iPhone 2.0 users. The paid version also offers a somewhat reliable Outlook MAPI plugin that supports 2003 and 2007 (seems to crash a bit too much with 2gb or larger mailboxes - but then Outlook stinks). Zimbra's professional version also comes with a great backup system, that can do point in time restores of individual mailboxes that puts an Exchange recovery group to shame for speed, reliability and ease of use. I just did three point in time restores today for users who were delete happy in their mailboxes, and restored about 250 mb of mailboxes in under 10 minutes. I actually wait a few hours until doing it, so they don't know how quick we can do it, which hopefully reduces the amount of restore requests we get. :) Hurry up and get it before Microsoft buys Yahoo and cancels Zimbra. On Jul 10, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Melin Joacim wrote: > It's quite embarrassing, really. I've heard several suggestions > that Apple will address this in an upcoming release of OS X Server, > but I seriously doubt it. There are very few, if any, open source > options to Exchange Server, and the idea that Apple actually will > develop something from scratch for OS X Server seems a bit far > fetched... > > Just my 0.02 in your favorite currency... > > > On Jul 10, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Chris Rank wrote: > >> Great, >> >> So now we have push calendar for Exchange in the iPhone, yay! >> >> iCal Sever users on MacOS X Server? Well, not so much. >> >> Thanks Apple. >> >> Really, Thanks. >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-admin mailing list >> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From dez at mac.com Thu Jul 10 13:19:42 2008 From: dez at mac.com (Derek Chesterfield) Date: Thu Jul 10 18:20:04 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: References: <3F9F0D22-4DCE-4E6D-885C-F82401684D1F@pushhere.com> <4D943BAE-378E-421F-8A1C-22DBF067D2D1@melin.org> Message-ID: <05C73260-8191-4DAB-A0A7-9F7D0AC55418@mac.com> I know it isn't out yet, but Snow Leopard is due to get push calendar features via iCal Server 2. As was said previously, Apple are developing this from scratch, so I'm not sure why you shouldn't expect this delay in getting this feature into Server. iCal Server 2 iCal Server, a calendaring and scheduling service based on open standards, was the first commercial CalDAV calendar server. Snow Leopard Server follows up with the next major release of iCal Server, which includes group and shared calendars, push notifications, the ability to send email invitations to non-iCal Server users, and a browser-based application that lets users access their calendars on the web when they?re away from their Mac. On 10 Jul 2008, at 21:04, Chris Rank wrote: > On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Melin Joacim wrote: >> It's quite embarrassing, really. I've heard several suggestions >> that Apple will address this in an upcoming release of OS X Server, >> but I seriously doubt it. There are very few, if any, open source >> options to Exchange Server, and the idea that Apple actually will >> develop something from scratch for OS X Server seems a bit far >> fetched... >> > Once again, Apple shafts Enterprise customers that ACTUALLY buy > Apple products. I mean, please don't get me wrong, I am not > surprised in any way, but it would have been nice once, just once, > for Apple to actually have some internal communication. Oh well. > >> On Jul 10, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Chris Rank wrote: >>> So now we have push calendar for Exchange in the iPhone, yay! >>> iCal Sever users on MacOS X Server? Well, not so much. From patgmac at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 18:27:35 2008 From: patgmac at gmail.com (Patrick Gallagher) Date: Thu Jul 10 18:27:46 2008 Subject: Safari loads on login In-Reply-To: <8a4711520807090834x43d7e6f9uce3c7dcfbd38a8b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a4711520807090834x43d7e6f9uce3c7dcfbd38a8b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fffb2dc0807101827s78b3481cq3e8db1cc7e441083@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Susan Alston wrote: > I am the Mac administrator for a lab of computers setup with a student (as > well as administrator) login. When a student logs in Safari automatically > loads. How do I stop this activity? Safari is not in the login actions > for > administrator and there is no way to set programs to run at login for the > student account that I can see.. > > You need to be logged in as the student to see the login items for student. It's not an admin function. A quick way to get rid of it is to log in as student, control+click on the Safari icon in the dock and uncheck "open at login" -- Patrick Gallagher Emory University ACSA, A+, Network+, RHCT http://patgmac.blogspot.com From jwelch at bynkii.com Thu Jul 10 18:42:14 2008 From: jwelch at bynkii.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Jul 10 18:42:23 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/10/08 6:32 PM, "Melin Joacim" wrote: > Calendering, yes. But what about push for email and contacts? I got > fed up with waiting for Apple to make it happen and stopped using OS X > Server for Email hosting and moved to Exchange Server 2003. Honestly, I'm not surprised that Apple didn't do it in this version, and is waiting for Snow Leopard Server to do it. But somehow, I have a hard time saying "Hey, they're ONLY going to support Push with iCal, not with email and address books, because they REALLY want you to use Exchange" It's annoying that they aren't going to do it until 10.6, but that's all. Annoying. Even if they did release a MAJOR upgrade to the Mail and iCal servers, along with ways to push Contact Changes out to mobiles, who here would be deploying it across their network inside of six months? Not many. When's Snow Leopard due to be released? Sometime in 2009...which is just under 5 months away. I'm actually glad, because dealing with the new iPHones and iPhone tricks is going to be enough of a time sink for a couple of months as it is. -- John C. Welch Writer/Analyst Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions jwelch@bynkii.com From christopher.m.barker at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 23:10:36 2008 From: christopher.m.barker at gmail.com (Chris Barker) Date: Thu Jul 10 23:10:39 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:42 PM, John C. Welch wrote: > On 7/10/08 6:32 PM, "Melin Joacim" wrote: > > > Calendering, yes. But what about push for email and contacts? I got > > fed up with waiting for Apple to make it happen and stopped using OS X > > Server for Email hosting and moved to Exchange Server 2003. > > Honestly, I'm not surprised that Apple didn't do it in this version, and is > waiting for Snow Leopard Server to do it. But somehow, I have a hard time > saying "Hey, they're ONLY going to support Push with iCal, not with email > and address books, because they REALLY want you to use Exchange" > > It's annoying that they aren't going to do it until 10.6, but that's all. > Annoying. Even if they did release a MAJOR upgrade to the Mail and iCal > servers, along with ways to push Contact Changes out to mobiles, who here > would be deploying it across their network inside of six months? > > Not many. When's Snow Leopard due to be released? Sometime in 2009...which > is just under 5 months away. > > I'm actually glad, because dealing with the new iPHones and iPhone tricks > is > going to be enough of a time sink for a couple of months as it is. > > -- > John C. Welch Writer/Analyst > Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions > jwelch@bynkii.com > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > re:contactsSnow Leopard also has AddressBook Server, which is to use the CardDAV protocol to do synchronization. Since CalDAV (Calendar Server 2) in Snow Leopard is going to be extended to support push support, I don't see why contact push support wont show up in it also, since both are built on the WebDAV protocol. re:push mail And 10.5 Mail Server already supports IMAP IDLE, a mechanism that can be used for push mail (yahoo uses P-IMAP iirc): http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=20070705094147879 (if it loads) Almost all of the pieces are in place for Snow Leopard Server to provide the same mobileMe experience to business users, using Apple's solutions. Of course if you don't want to wait, you can just get Kerio (once they release their update for to support the iPhone's activesync profile, which should be any day now) and use that instead. They even have a demo vmware installation you can use to check it out. -- Chris Barker Purveyor of Fine Suggestions ACSA From mdorset at trinity.unimelb.edu.au Sun Jul 13 03:14:35 2008 From: mdorset at trinity.unimelb.edu.au (Mark Dorset) Date: Sun Jul 13 03:19:49 2008 Subject: iCal sync OTA In-Reply-To: References: <3F9F0D22-4DCE-4E6D-885C-F82401684D1F@pushhere.com> <993FA1EA-5FB6-4F08-A969-28D2176B66EB@melin.org> Message-ID: <478ED095-0B5F-492A-B02A-8200EA383B41@trinity.unimelb.edu.au> JFYI, Zimbra Network Edn with mobile module supports push calendars to the iPhone with activesync, but *not* multiple calendars until v5.0.9 (current version is v5.0.7 and there doesn't appear to be a release date for 5.0.9 yet) That said, I will be very surprised if Snow Leopard Server doesn't include support for push contacts/mail/calendar. On 11/07/2008, at 7:31 AM, Scott G. Lewis wrote: > I always recommend Zimbra, which maintains an excellent Mac OS X > port - in fact, the only thing it can't do on the OS X side is > clustering/HA, but then it can't do that on many platforms it runs > on (it really loves Red Hat Enterprise). > > The Zimbra open source edition is free, and supports CalDAV for iCal > integration. Their AJAX client is amazing, and it has those > "Exchange-ey" features like shared calendars, global address list, > shared contacts, etc. > > They also have a Zimbra Desktop offering, which replicates much of > the web interface, but in a OS X, Windows and Linux application, so > offline mail is available. > > But most importantly, it supports standards, so you can use Apple > Mail (IMAP), iCal (CalDAV), and if you're brave, you can open your > LDAP server and allow for Address Book to search the GAL. > > For even better integration, there's the Professional (not free) > edition, which adds an iSync plugin for Mac users to get full > support in all three apps (mail, addresses, calendars), plus an > available Mobile addon which provides ActiveSync compatibility which > would enable OTA synching of all three for iPhone 2.0 users. The > paid version also offers a somewhat reliable Outlook MAPI plugin > that supports 2003 and 2007 (seems to crash a bit too much with 2gb > or larger mailboxes - but then Outlook stinks). > > Zimbra's professional version also comes with a great backup system, > that can do point in time restores of individual mailboxes that puts > an Exchange recovery group to shame for speed, reliability and ease > of use. > > I just did three point in time restores today for users who were > delete happy in their mailboxes, and restored about 250 mb of > mailboxes in under 10 minutes. I actually wait a few hours until > doing it, so they don't know how quick we can do it, which hopefully > reduces the amount of restore requests we get. :) > > Hurry up and get it before Microsoft buys Yahoo and cancels Zimbra. > > On Jul 10, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Melin Joacim wrote: > >> It's quite embarrassing, really. I've heard several suggestions >> that Apple will address this in an upcoming release of OS X Server, >> but I seriously doubt it. There are very few, if any, open source >> options to Exchange Server, and the idea that Apple actually will >> develop something from scratch for OS X Server seems a bit far >> fetched... >> >> Just my 0.02 in your favorite currency... >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Chris Rank wrote: >> >>> Great, >>> >>> So now we have push calendar for Exchange in the iPhone, yay! >>> >>> iCal Sever users on MacOS X Server? Well, not so much. >>> >>> Thanks Apple. >>> >>> Really, Thanks. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacOSX-admin mailing list >>> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >>> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-admin mailing list >> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From asurasuria at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 10:39:06 2008 From: asurasuria at gmail.com (maj czep) Date: Tue Jul 15 10:39:13 2008 Subject: Invalid HFS+ data fork clump size found in volume header (0) Message-ID: <7c746d270807151039s5d42badfhfd7b18c62d991609@mail.gmail.com> Invalid HFS+ data fork clump size found in volume header (0) Invalid HFS+ resource fork clump size found in volume header (0) Hi, So I recently ran techtool pro4 to optomize my system, then bam--my esata drive is corrupted and will only mount via usb. I tried to recover the files using data rescueII, to no avail--at least half of the files are corrupted, including all my html web design files as well as the jpegs and gifs. The above is the error messages I got after running drive genius on it. Is there a way to map out the bad blocks on the drive and fix them? Please let me know if this is fixable somehow, as I desperately need the data off this drive. I'm running OSX 10.4.11 have an esata card RocketRaid 1522A Thanks in advance Maya -- Maya Czepulkowska (347)452-7601 http://www.asurasuria.com http://asurasuria.voodoochilli.net asurasuria@gmail.com From o.hirschi at bluewin.ch Wed Jul 16 02:30:30 2008 From: o.hirschi at bluewin.ch (Oliver Hirschi) Date: Wed Jul 16 02:35:10 2008 Subject: Tomcat does not start after update Message-ID: Hi Since a Java or a MacOSX update, my Tomcat 6.0.14 does not start on my MacOSX Server 10.4.11. There comes always the followed message into catalina.out: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/digester/Rule at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredConstructors0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredConstructors(Class.java:2357) at java.lang.Class.getConstructor0(Class.java:2671) at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Class.java:321) at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:303) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:127) The current java version is 1.5.0_13 Can anybody help? Thanks & Regards, Oliver Hirschi From mah at jump-ing.de Wed Jul 16 05:19:38 2008 From: mah at jump-ing.de (Markus Hitter) Date: Wed Jul 16 05:19:43 2008 Subject: Invalid HFS+ data fork clump size found in volume header (0) In-Reply-To: <7c746d270807151039s5d42badfhfd7b18c62d991609@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c746d270807151039s5d42badfhfd7b18c62d991609@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0D75C07C-04C9-46AB-A5BF-5E43530D0A0D@jump-ing.de> Am 15.07.2008 um 19:39 schrieb maj czep: > So I recently ran techtool pro4 to optomize my system,[...] recover > the > files using data rescueII, [...] running drive genius on it. Why are you running that many third party tools? I've yet to see one of these things doing anything better than Apple provided tools. BTW., OS X's HFS+ driver has built-in file system optimisation. > Is there a way to map out the bad blocks on the drive and fix them? AFAIK, drives are supposed to do this transparently. Additionally, it's very unlikely any software can create physically bad blocks, even if it tried intentionally. > Please let me know if this is fixable somehow, as I desperately > need the > data off this drive. The first thing you probably want to do is to re-mount the drive read- only. This protects you from further damage: sudo mount -rf /Volumes/WhateverYourDriveIsNamed Then you can try to copy files over file by file and look how much you get: find /Volumes/WhateverYourDriveIsNamed -type dir | while read D; do mkdir -p $HOME/"$D"; done find /Volumes/WhateverYourDriveIsNamed -type file | while read F; do sudo dd if="$F" of=$HOME/"$F" conv=noerror,sync; done For binary files you can't copy with the dd tool, you're pretty much lost. If you have important text sections, you can grep through the raw drive (the thing in /dev). However, today's file systems are far to huge and complex to dissect them by hand. Last step would be to mount the drive read-write again and to let Apple's disk first app try it's luck. Sometimes it helps, sometimes not. If you've done all this: Get your backup system ready. Time Machine isn't the only possible solution. HTH, Markus P.S.: I hope you have enough shell knowledge to adapt the commands I've written to your needs. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ From chrissou at netcourrier.com Sun Jul 27 07:07:46 2008 From: chrissou at netcourrier.com (chrissou) Date: Sun Jul 27 07:07:50 2008 Subject: Mini Mac and Philips LCD TV Message-ID: <18676203.post@talk.nabble.com> Hello I'm french and i just bought a 42PFL9603H/10 philips. I've already the same problem as you. When i plug my mac mini with SVGA, the LCD work only in 1024x768 ... With DVI => hdmi plug the LCD didn"t work Have you find any solution ? Thanks a lot Andreas H?schler wrote: > > Hi all, > > we have purchased a 32" Philips LCD / TV and a DVI-HDMI cable to > connect this display to a Mac. The display has a native resolution of > 1920x1080 pixel and is to be used for trade shows and the like to > present info to people sitting or standing 3-4m in front of the screen. > > We are tearing our hairs out getting this display to work. It worked > out of the box with a very old G4 PowerMac (with a relatively new > graphics card) and with a PowerBook Pro. The graphic cards of these > machines were able to drive te display with its native resolution. > However, we wanted to use this display with a Mini Mac (3 years old) > and all we get with this machine is 1024x768 (no other resolutions > selectable) vi aVGA and nothing at all via DVI/HDMI. I suppose the > graphics card of this mini mac is for whatever reason not able to > generate 1920x1080 and therefore falls back to XGA. > > Buying a new mini mac for this is an option. We just want to make sure > that the current mini macs are able to generate this resolution. Any > experiences with a current Mini Mac and 1920x1080 or even with the 32" > Philips LCD/TV 9603? > > Thanks a lot, > > Andreas > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Mini-Mac-and-Philips-LCD-TV-tp17752995p18676203.html Sent from the OmniGroup - MacOSX-Admin mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Tue Jul 29 22:35:12 2008 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks) Date: Tue Jul 29 22:35:40 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 Message-ID: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> I am trying to write a shell script on a 10.4 system that uses hdiutil to mount a disk image at system boot time. I have some games that require a CD to be mounted to run. These are for my 5 year old boy. His iBook (gen 1 iceBook hand me down from me) has a busted CD drive and I have made disk images of the CDs. (They are some hybrid windows/mac disks). When mount them using hdiutil it comes up with The disk image you are opening may be damaged and could damage your system. Are you sure you want to open this disk image? (Y/N) If you say Y then they mount normally. They are not really damaged by the system gives you this message due to the hybrid nature (I have multiple games with the same "problem" with the images and they all work fine if you answer yes. Mounting from the Finder gives you a similar dialog box. What I need to do is to auto answer this with Y in the script so that no user intervention is required. Nothing I have tried works hdiutil attach my-image.dmg < References: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> Message-ID: <23C29B60-E3A4-49EB-BEFA-335F024BC97E@goldweb.com.au> On 30/07/2008, at 15:35 , Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks wrote: > I am trying to write a shell script on a 10.4 system that uses > hdiutil to mount a disk image at system boot time. ... > >> The disk image you are opening may be damaged and could damage >> your system. >> Are you sure you want to open this disk image? (Y/N) I think the solution to your problem is expect(1). HTH Alex From andrewo at liveworld.com Tue Jul 29 22:43:11 2008 From: andrewo at liveworld.com (Andrew Oliver) Date: Tue Jul 29 23:10:49 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> References: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> Message-ID: <9B2F8034-7E4A-48A1-8FD4-1FB59B8D5D49@liveworld.com> Why not just: hdiutil attach my-image.dmg -noverify to turn of disk checking. Andrew :) On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:35 PM, Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks wrote: > I am trying to write a shell script on a 10.4 system that uses > hdiutil to mount a disk image at system boot time. > > I have some games that require a CD to be mounted to run. These are > for my 5 year old boy. His iBook (gen 1 iceBook hand me down from > me) has a busted CD drive and I have made disk images of the > CDs. (They are some hybrid windows/mac disks). When mount them > using hdiutil it comes up with > > The disk image you are opening may be damaged and could damage your > system. > Are you sure you want to open this disk image? (Y/N) > > If you say Y then they mount normally. They are not really damaged > by the system gives you this message due to the hybrid nature (I > have multiple games with the same "problem" with the images and they > all work fine if you answer yes. Mounting from the Finder gives you > a similar dialog box. > > What I need to do is to auto answer this with Y in the script so > that no user intervention is required. Nothing I have tried works > > hdiutil attach my-image.dmg < Y > EOF > > echo "Y" | hdiutil attach my-image.dmg > > hdiutil attach my-image.dmg < answer > > where answer is a file with Y > > Anyone have any other ideas on how to feed responses programatically > to hdiutil? > > Thanks > Chad > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Tue Jul 29 23:21:51 2008 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (objectwerks inc) Date: Tue Jul 29 23:21:54 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: <9B2F8034-7E4A-48A1-8FD4-1FB59B8D5D49@liveworld.com> References: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> <9B2F8034-7E4A-48A1-8FD4-1FB59B8D5D49@liveworld.com> Message-ID: <61EAED52-3853-449E-9FFA-120F183A0C18@objectwerks.com> Hi On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Andrew Oliver wrote: > Why not just: > > hdiutil attach my-image.dmg -noverify > > to turn of disk checking. because it does not work with this sort of "damaged" disk image. I tried that as well as the ignorebadchecksum > > > I have been through "man hdutil" thoroughly and tried every incantation of related options Thanks Chad > > Andrew > :) > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:35 PM, Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks wrote: > >> I am trying to write a shell script on a 10.4 system that uses >> hdiutil to mount a disk image at system boot time. >> >> I have some games that require a CD to be mounted to run. These >> are for my 5 year old boy. His iBook (gen 1 iceBook hand me down >> from me) has a busted CD drive and I have made disk images of >> the CDs. (They are some hybrid windows/mac disks). When mount >> them using hdiutil it comes up with >> >> The disk image you are opening may be damaged and could damage your >> system. >> Are you sure you want to open this disk image? (Y/N) >> >> If you say Y then they mount normally. They are not really damaged >> by the system gives you this message due to the hybrid nature (I >> have multiple games with the same "problem" with the images and >> they all work fine if you answer yes. Mounting from the Finder >> gives you a similar dialog box. >> >> What I need to do is to auto answer this with Y in the script so >> that no user intervention is required. Nothing I have tried works >> >> hdiutil attach my-image.dmg <> Y >> EOF >> >> echo "Y" | hdiutil attach my-image.dmg >> >> hdiutil attach my-image.dmg < answer >> >> where answer is a file with Y >> >> Anyone have any other ideas on how to feed responses >> programatically to hdiutil? >> >> Thanks >> Chad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-admin mailing list >> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin >> > From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Tue Jul 29 23:23:35 2008 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (objectwerks inc) Date: Tue Jul 29 23:23:38 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: <23C29B60-E3A4-49EB-BEFA-335F024BC97E@goldweb.com.au> References: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> <23C29B60-E3A4-49EB-BEFA-335F024BC97E@goldweb.com.au> Message-ID: On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:45 PM, Alex Satrapa wrote: > On 30/07/2008, at 15:35 , Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks wrote: > >> I am trying to write a shell script on a 10.4 system that uses >> hdiutil to mount a disk image at system boot time. ... >> >>> The disk image you are opening may be damaged and could damage >>> your system. >>> Are you sure you want to open this disk image? (Y/N) > > I think the solution to your problem is expect(1). I will give it a go Thanks! Chad > > > HTH > Alex > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From justin at mac.com Tue Jul 29 23:26:51 2008 From: justin at mac.com (Justin C. Walker) Date: Tue Jul 29 23:26:54 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: <61EAED52-3853-449E-9FFA-120F183A0C18@objectwerks.com> References: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> <9B2F8034-7E4A-48A1-8FD4-1FB59B8D5D49@liveworld.com> <61EAED52-3853-449E-9FFA-120F183A0C18@objectwerks.com> Message-ID: <4B9D8F1E-7176-41D5-8913-64D7F766D1C5@mac.com> On Jul 29, 2008, at 23:21 , objectwerks inc wrote: > Hi > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Andrew Oliver wrote: > >> Why not just: >> >> hdiutil attach my-image.dmg -noverify >> >> to turn of disk checking. > > because it does not work with this sort of "damaged" disk image. I > tried that as well as the ignorebadchecksum If the disk is required to use the games, it's possible that the disk is in some way intentionally damaged in order to guarantee that the system won't make a copy of it. Otherwise, the "protection scheme" would not be very useful :-} Just a thought. Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds ----------- If it weren't for carbon-14, I wouldn't date at all. ----------- From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Tue Jul 29 23:32:38 2008 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (objectwerks inc) Date: Tue Jul 29 23:32:41 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: <4B9D8F1E-7176-41D5-8913-64D7F766D1C5@mac.com> References: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> <9B2F8034-7E4A-48A1-8FD4-1FB59B8D5D49@liveworld.com> <61EAED52-3853-449E-9FFA-120F183A0C18@objectwerks.com> <4B9D8F1E-7176-41D5-8913-64D7F766D1C5@mac.com> Message-ID: <90CF36E6-B929-4690-BC07-AA48FECA23E1@objectwerks.com> On Jul 30, 2008, at 12:26 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 23:21 , objectwerks inc wrote: > >> Hi >> >> On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Andrew Oliver wrote: >> >>> Why not just: >>> >>> hdiutil attach my-image.dmg -noverify >>> >>> to turn of disk checking. >> >> because it does not work with this sort of "damaged" disk image. I >> tried that as well as the ignorebadchecksum > > If the disk is required to use the games, it's possible that the > disk is in some way intentionally damaged in order to guarantee that > the system won't make a copy of it. Otherwise, the "protection > scheme" would not be very useful :-} A good thought, but in this case not the case. It is some weird windows/mac hybrid and it does in fact mount without issue and the games work fine. These are all small kids educational games. Previously I would just mount the image myself and start the game for my son. As he can now manipulate the computer, I want to have it happen in the background so he can do it whenever he wants without having to do it himself. Chad From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Wed Jul 30 07:44:33 2008 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks Inc) Date: Wed Jul 30 07:44:38 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: <23C29B60-E3A4-49EB-BEFA-335F024BC97E@goldweb.com.au> References: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> <23C29B60-E3A4-49EB-BEFA-335F024BC97E@goldweb.com.au> Message-ID: <90B8B3BC-A56C-4A8C-88A6-7F202E1665C0@objectwerks.com> On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:45 PM, Alex Satrapa wrote: > On 30/07/2008, at 15:35 , Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks wrote: > >> I am trying to write a shell script on a 10.4 system that uses >> hdiutil to mount a disk image at system boot time. ... >> >>> The disk image you are opening may be damaged and could damage >>> your system. >>> Are you sure you want to open this disk image? (Y/N) > > I think the solution to your problem is expect(1). > Yes, I got it working using expect. I was also able to create a StartupItem and have it do its thing at boot. Thanks to all who responded publicly or privately. Chad From kremels at kreme.com Wed Jul 30 09:12:57 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Wed Jul 30 09:13:00 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: <4B9D8F1E-7176-41D5-8913-64D7F766D1C5@mac.com> References: <80CE5211-BD49-4902-AC8F-5E8C14AD914B@objectwerks.com> <9B2F8034-7E4A-48A1-8FD4-1FB59B8D5D49@liveworld.com> <61EAED52-3853-449E-9FFA-120F183A0C18@objectwerks.com> <4B9D8F1E-7176-41D5-8913-64D7F766D1C5@mac.com> Message-ID: <142E5310-F7F6-4BDC-82A8-1A83D44A3F5A@kreme.com> On 30-Jul-2008, at 00:26, Justin C. Walker wrote: > If the disk is required to use the games, it's possible that the > disk is in some way intentionally damaged in order to guarantee that > the system won't make a copy of it. Otherwise, the "protection > scheme" would not be very useful :-} Not unless they are Windows games. OS X doesn't allow that sort of BS. -- Lobotomy means never having to say you're sorry -- or anything else. From jwelch at bynkii.com Wed Jul 30 10:49:04 2008 From: jwelch at bynkii.com (John C. Welch) Date: Wed Jul 30 10:49:12 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: <142E5310-F7F6-4BDC-82A8-1A83D44A3F5A@kreme.com> Message-ID: On 7/30/08 12:12 PM, "LuKreme" wrote: >> If the disk is required to use the games, it's possible that the >> disk is in some way intentionally damaged in order to guarantee that >> the system won't make a copy of it. Otherwise, the "protection >> scheme" would not be very useful :-} > > Not unless they are Windows games. OS X doesn't allow that sort of BS. Huh? How does OS X prevent people from being greedy and stupid and implementing a proprietary filesystem with a custom driver? -- John C. Welch Writer/Analyst Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions jwelch@bynkii.com From kremels at kreme.com Wed Jul 30 14:13:14 2008 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Wed Jul 30 14:13:18 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21ED9196-763C-4EE6-8619-216FA62EDC37@kreme.com> On 30-Jul-2008, at 11:49, John C. Welch wrote: > On 7/30/08 12:12 PM, "LuKreme" wrote: > >>> If the disk is required to use the games, it's possible that the >>> disk is in some way intentionally damaged in order to guarantee that >>> the system won't make a copy of it. Otherwise, the "protection >>> scheme" would not be very useful :-} >> >> Not unless they are Windows games. OS X doesn't allow that sort of >> BS. > > Huh? How does OS X prevent people from being greedy and stupid and > implementing a proprietary filesystem with a custom driver? Well, 1) have you ever seen one? 2) Will OS X load a driver off a CD in order to load the CD? In windows, a CD can be 'copy-protected' and copies of that disc will not work (at least not without some massaging). I've never found that to be true off a Mac CD. -- In my world there are people in chains and you can ride them like ponies From jwelch at bynkii.com Wed Jul 30 14:38:52 2008 From: jwelch at bynkii.com (John C. Welch) Date: Wed Jul 30 14:39:03 2008 Subject: mount "damaged" disk image in shellscript on 10.4 In-Reply-To: <21ED9196-763C-4EE6-8619-216FA62EDC37@kreme.com> Message-ID: On 7/30/08 5:13 PM, "LuKreme" wrote: >>>> If the disk is required to use the games, it's possible that the >>>> disk is in some way intentionally damaged in order to guarantee that >>>> the system won't make a copy of it. Otherwise, the "protection >>>> scheme" would not be very useful :-} >>> >>> Not unless they are Windows games. OS X doesn't allow that sort of >>> BS. >> >> Huh? How does OS X prevent people from being greedy and stupid and >> implementing a proprietary filesystem with a custom driver? > > Well, 1) have you ever seen one? 2) Will OS X load a driver off a CD > in order to load the CD? Can you dynamically load drivers in Mac OS X? Yes. Could you implement such a thing as a FUSE-style implementation? I don't see why not. > > In windows, a CD can be 'copy-protected' and copies of that disc will > not work (at least not without some massaging). I've never found that > to be true off a Mac CD. A common implementation of this in Windows is for games, and it requires a minimal on-drive installation of the game. At that point, you could easily set up a driver to do this. -- John C. Welch Writer/Analyst Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions jwelch@bynkii.com From gsslist+osxadmin at anthropohedron.net Thu Jul 31 07:06:11 2008 From: gsslist+osxadmin at anthropohedron.net (Gregory Seidman) Date: Thu Jul 31 07:11:52 2008 Subject: Weird screen saver problem Message-ID: <20080731140609.GA30816@anthropohedron.net> My MacBook Pro (running 10.5.4) has been occasionally showing a black screen when waking from sleep (opening the lid and entering my password to unlock). The pointer is visible, however, and moves normally with the touchpad. If I close the lid to put it back to sleep then open it again, after I unlock it everything seems normal... except the screen saver never starts under any circumstances. Running /System/Library/Frameworks/ScreenSaver.framework/Resources/ScreenSaverEngine.app/Contents/MacOS/ScreenSaverEngine from the commandline exits immediately with no output and does not leave a process running. Using the Start Screen Saver action in Automator fails with a content-free error. Hot corners to start the screen saver are ignored. All I get in the console log is a cryptic "Screen saver is running in blackout mode." Logging out and logging back in fixes the problem, but I'm hoping someone knows of another way to revive the normal operation of the screen saver. --Greg From topher at thehundredacre.net Thu Jul 31 09:29:06 2008 From: topher at thehundredacre.net (Christopher Bort) Date: Thu Jul 31 09:29:34 2008 Subject: Weird screen saver problem In-Reply-To: <20080731140609.GA30816@anthropohedron.net> Message-ID: On 07/31/08 07:06, gsslist+osxadmin@anthropohedron.net (Gregory Seidman) wrote: >My MacBook Pro (running 10.5.4) has been occasionally showing a black >screen when waking from sleep (opening the lid and entering my password to >unlock). The pointer is visible, however, and moves normally with the >touchpad. If I close the lid to put it back to sleep then open it again, >after I unlock it everything seems normal... except the screen saver never >starts under any circumstances. ++ with a 10.4.11 MacBook, except that screen saver still works normally after finally waking. >Running >/System/Library/Frameworks/ScreenSaver.framework/Resources/ >/ScreenSaverEngine >.app/Contents/MacOS/ScreenSaverEngine from the commandline exits >immediately with no output and does not leave a process running. Using >the Start Screen Saver action in Automator fails with a content-free >error. Hot corners to start the screen saver are ignored. All I get in >the console log is a cryptic "Screen saver is running in blackout >mode." > >Logging out and logging back in fixes the problem, but I'm hoping someone >knows of another way to revive the normal operation of the screen saver. Sorry, no other fix here, but I'd be happy to hear of one too. FTR, closing the lid and letting it sleep again is only slightly annoying to me as a work-around. More annoying is that occasionally when waking from hibernation (aka deep sleep) I get a kernel panic. I've taken to quitting Mailsmith before sleeping to avoid corrupting its message store. This particular MacBook has been used by two other people before me and has been knocked around a bit (ethernet is inoperative for one thing), so I can't say that the kernel panics are not due to some user-induced hardware problem. -- Christopher Bort From tuparev at mac.com Thu Jul 31 23:46:46 2008 From: tuparev at mac.com (Georg Tuparev) Date: Thu Jul 31 23:47:09 2008 Subject: Weird screen saver problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <995C4555-CA7D-4307-8E3F-50497A0D03C3@mac.com> Folks, I had similar problem until it turned out that it is cased by applications being active. In my case it was the crap called Eclipse. Since I quit Eclipse before putting my MacBook Pro to sleep this behavior never happened again. cheers georg On Jul 31, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Christopher Bort wrote: > On 07/31/08 07:06, gsslist+osxadmin@anthropohedron.net (Gregory > Seidman) wrote: > >> My MacBook Pro (running 10.5.4) has been occasionally showing a black >> screen when waking from sleep (opening the lid and entering my >> password to >> unlock). The pointer is visible, however, and moves normally with the >> touchpad. If I close the lid to put it back to sleep then open it >> again, >> after I unlock it everything seems normal... except the screen >> saver never >> starts under any circumstances. > > ++ with a 10.4.11 MacBook, except that screen saver still works > normally after finally waking. > >> Running >> /System/Library/Frameworks/ScreenSaver.framework/Resources/ >> /ScreenSaverEngine >> .app/Contents/MacOS/ScreenSaverEngine from the commandline exits >> immediately with no output and does not leave a process running. >> Using >> the Start Screen Saver action in Automator fails with a content-free >> error. Hot corners to start the screen saver are ignored. All I get >> in >> the console log is a cryptic "Screen saver is running in blackout >> mode." >> >> Logging out and logging back in fixes the problem, but I'm hoping >> someone >> knows of another way to revive the normal operation of the screen >> saver. > > Sorry, no other fix here, but I'd be happy to hear of one too. FTR, > closing the lid and letting it sleep again is only slightly annoying > to me as a work-around. More annoying is that occasionally when > waking from hibernation (aka deep sleep) I get a kernel panic. I've > taken to quitting Mailsmith before sleeping to avoid corrupting its > message store. This particular MacBook has been used by two other > people before me and has been knocked around a bit (ethernet is > inoperative for one thing), so I can't say that the kernel panics > are not due to some user-induced hardware problem. > > -- > Christopher Bort > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin -- georg -- "I believe in an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out." Arthur Hays Sulzberger