From joines at okstate.edu Thu Nov 1 08:15:32 2007 From: joines at okstate.edu (Jason Joines) Date: Thu Nov 1 08:15:59 2007 Subject: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC Message-ID: The documentation for 10.5 says you can connect to the running installer via SSH or VNC to continue the installation remotely. It also says the password is the hardware serial number. However, it doesn't mention what username to send. I've tried root and admin but no luck. Anyone know what username to send? From markus at ruggiero.ch Thu Nov 1 01:10:27 2007 From: markus at ruggiero.ch (Markus Ruggiero) Date: Thu Nov 1 08:31:00 2007 Subject: local delivery of mail fail, log files completely empty Message-ID: all of a sudden my Tiger Server (10.4.10) started to have problems. Mail is queued for local delivery but each and any message shows with the error: "connect to 127.0.0.1, connection refused". Clicking the retry in Server Admin->mail->maintenance->mail-queue does not help, still the same error. This started around yesterday morning (31 okt). Since then several 100 mails have accumulated in the queue. I have not done anything to the server recently other than installed openvpn about one week ago. During my analysis I saw something else very strange: all the mail server log files of the last 7 days are empty (zero bytes!). No smtp log, no any other mail related log containing any byte! I have already repaired permission (only repairs needed for iTunes directories, no system or mail related dirs) and rebooted the server. This is damn weird. Anyone has any clue as to what is going on and where I could look further? Thanks, this is pretty urgent ---markus--- Markus Ruggiero rucotec consulting and technologies email mailto:markus.ruggiero@rucotec.ch rucotec GmbH web http://www.rucotec.ch Steinentorstrasse 8 4051 Basel Mobile +41 (0)79 508 4701 Switzerland Phone/Fax +41 (0)61 271 4990 From milov at cslab.uwlax.edu Thu Nov 1 08:47:25 2007 From: milov at cslab.uwlax.edu (Milo Velimirovic) Date: Thu Nov 1 08:51:27 2007 Subject: Linux on intel xserve In-Reply-To: References: <4728D6B1.8050909@okstate.edu> <9d9c4a330710311317r148a6ad8vd7c1b3a894dec884@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The link explains it all... :) Milo On Oct 31, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Jason Joines wrote: > Brett Dikeman wrote: >> On 10/31/07, Jason Joines wrote: >>> Any ideas? >> Google "ubuntu xserve intel"? >> http://64.233.169.104/search? >> q=cache:id4rpzDLrFgJ:bioinformatics.org/pipermail/bioclusters/2007- >> August/003215.html+ubuntu+xserve >> +intel&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl=us&client=firefox-a >> (Link to the cache because apparently the page is not publicly >> accessible anymore.) >> If you don't mind my asking, what is your intended use for these >> systems? (or, perhaps, what *was*, given the above link?) Even if >> you got it to boot, you'd be running a pretty non-standard >> configuration. >> The choice of Ubuntu for a server application is perhaps not >> completely well advised (and yes, I have personal experience using >> Ubuntu as a server, along with Gentoo, Debian, and all manner of >> Redhat/CentOS.) >> Brett > > > > I've seen that post before. I'm not necessarily married to > Ubuntu. Any Linux that would install on the intel xserve would be > fine with me. > > The intended purpose is a very low utilization file server. > I've been using various linux distros for servers for about 10 > years. I thought I might like os x but I really don't and just > want to get rid of it. However, since the hardware is already here > I hate to see it go to waste. > There is enough pc hardware setting around to do the job but > there are several xserve raid boxes involved and I haven't yet > explored whether or not I can use the fiber channel cards from the > xserve boxes in pc servers. > > > Jason > =========== > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin -- Milo Velimirovi?, Unix Computer Network Administrator 608-785-6618 Office - 608-386-2817 Cell University of Wisconsin - La Crosse La Crosse, Wisconsin 54601 USA 43 48 48 N 91 13 53 W -- There's a reason Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson have been awarded the U.S. National Medal of Technology (1998) and are fellows of the Computer History Museum Online. Dave Cutler hasn't and isn't. "You are not expected to understand this." From shoop at iwiring.net Thu Nov 1 08:56:15 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 1 08:56:19 2007 Subject: local delivery of mail fail, log files completely empty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Nov 1, 2007, at 4:10 AM, Markus Ruggiero wrote: > all of a sudden my Tiger Server (10.4.10) started to have problems. > Mail is queued for local delivery but each and any message shows > with the error: "connect to 127.0.0.1, connection refused". What was trying to connect? > Clicking the retry in Server Admin->mail->maintenance->mail-queue > does not help, still the same error. This started around yesterday > morning (31 okt). Since then several 100 mails have accumulated in > the queue. Have you tried restarting postfix? Tried requeuing? > I have not done anything to the server recently other than > installed openvpn about one week ago. During my analysis I saw > something else very strange: all the mail server log files of the > last 7 days are empty (zero bytes!). So is postfix running? What do other logs say? > No smtp log, no any other mail related log containing any byte! I > have already repaired permission (only repairs needed for iTunes > directories, no system or mail related dirs) and rebooted the > server. This is damn weird. Anyone has any clue as to what is going > on and where I could look further? Your other logs. Your running processes. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist U.S. Technical Services dan.shoop@ustsvs.com AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response or urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From shoop at iwiring.net Thu Nov 1 08:58:00 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 1 08:58:51 2007 Subject: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <82518202-EFDD-48F9-95D6-B216D5029BEA@iwiring.net> On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Jason Joines wrote: > The documentation for 10.5 says you can connect to the running > installer via SSH or VNC to continue the installation remotely. It > also says the password is the hardware serial number. However, it > doesn't mention what username to send. I've tried root and admin > but no luck. Anyone know what username to send? The password is only the serial number when booted off the install distro media. The username is root. Make sure you're trying to connect to the right machine. How did you try determining that? -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist U.S. Technical Services dan.shoop@ustsvs.com AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response or urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From joines at okstate.edu Thu Nov 1 09:05:16 2007 From: joines at okstate.edu (Jason Joines) Date: Thu Nov 1 09:05:19 2007 Subject: Linux on intel xserve In-Reply-To: References: <4728D6B1.8050909@okstate.edu> <9d9c4a330710311317r148a6ad8vd7c1b3a894dec884@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4729F93C.5090501@okstate.edu> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Linux on intel xserve From: Milo Velimirovic To: Jason Joines Cc: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com Date: Thu Nov 1 10:47:25 2007 > The link explains it all... > > > > :) > Milo > > On Oct 31, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Jason Joines wrote: > >> Brett Dikeman wrote: >>> On 10/31/07, Jason Joines wrote: >>>> Any ideas? >>> Google "ubuntu xserve intel"? >>> http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:id4rpzDLrFgJ:bioinformatics.org/pipermail/bioclusters/2007-August/003215.html+ubuntu+xserve+intel&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl=us&client=firefox-a >>> >>> (Link to the cache because apparently the page is not publicly >>> accessible anymore.) >>> If you don't mind my asking, what is your intended use for these >>> systems? (or, perhaps, what *was*, given the above link?) Even if >>> you got it to boot, you'd be running a pretty non-standard >>> configuration. >>> The choice of Ubuntu for a server application is perhaps not >>> completely well advised (and yes, I have personal experience using >>> Ubuntu as a server, along with Gentoo, Debian, and all manner of >>> Redhat/CentOS.) >>> Brett >> >> >> >> I've seen that post before. I'm not necessarily married to >> Ubuntu. Any Linux that would install on the intel xserve would be >> fine with me. >> >> The intended purpose is a very low utilization file server. I've >> been using various linux distros for servers for about 10 years. I >> thought I might like os x but I really don't and just want to get rid >> of it. However, since the hardware is already here I hate to see it >> go to waste. >> There is enough pc hardware setting around to do the job but >> there are several xserve raid boxes involved and I haven't yet >> explored whether or not I can use the fiber channel cards from the >> xserve boxes in pc servers. >> >> >> Jason >> =========== >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-admin mailing list >> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > -- > Milo Velimirovi?, Unix Computer Network Administrator > 608-785-6618 Office - 608-386-2817 Cell > University of Wisconsin - La Crosse > La Crosse, Wisconsin 54601 USA 43 48 48 N 91 13 53 W > -- > There's a reason Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson have been awarded the > U.S. National Medal of Technology (1998) and are fellows of the > Computer History Museum Online. Dave Cutler hasn't and isn't. > "You are not expected to understand this." If I only had speakers... Jason =========== From joines at okstate.edu Thu Nov 1 09:07:35 2007 From: joines at okstate.edu (Jason Joines) Date: Thu Nov 1 09:07:39 2007 Subject: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <82518202-EFDD-48F9-95D6-B216D5029BEA@iwiring.net> References: <82518202-EFDD-48F9-95D6-B216D5029BEA@iwiring.net> Message-ID: <4729F9C7.1080904@okstate.edu> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC From: Dan Shoop To: Jason Joines Cc: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com Date: Thu Nov 1 10:58:00 2007 > > On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Jason Joines wrote: > >> The documentation for 10.5 says you can connect to the running >> installer via SSH or VNC to continue the installation remotely. It >> also says the password is the hardware serial number. However, it >> doesn't mention what username to send. I've tried root and admin but >> no luck. Anyone know what username to send? > > The password is only the serial number when booted off the install > distro media. The username is root. Make sure you're trying to connect > to the right machine. How did you try determining that? > > > -dhan I was booted off the install media, I did try root, I did try connecting to the correct machine. I used it's DNS name. Jason =========== From joines at okstate.edu Thu Nov 1 09:15:56 2007 From: joines at okstate.edu (Jason Joines) Date: Thu Nov 1 09:16:24 2007 Subject: 10.5 default username and password after install Message-ID: Yesterday I started an install of 10.5. It was a fresh install as I instructed it to erase the disk. It was still running when I left for the day. At that time I had not yet been prompted to enter any user information although I had entered the serial number. I don't remember exactly what screen it was at when I left. When I returned this morning I was presented with a login screen. I tried admin and root with blank passwords, the hardware serial number and various other values. I even attempted the admin username and password from the previous install just in case it hadn't really erased the disk. I was never able to get it. I've already had to do a second fresh install to remedy the situation but I'd like to know the answer for future reference. When an install is left running, does it set up some default username and password? If so, what? Jason Joines ================================= From shawnce at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 09:20:40 2007 From: shawnce at gmail.com (Shawn Erickson) Date: Thu Nov 1 09:20:45 2007 Subject: 10.5 default username and password after install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 11/1/07, Jason Joines wrote: > Yesterday I started an install of 10.5. Mac OS X 10.5 server of client? > It was a fresh install as > I instructed it to erase the disk. It was still running when I left for > the day. At that time I had not yet been prompted to enter any user > information although I had entered the serial number. I guess this is a server install? > I don't remember > exactly what screen it was at when I left. When I returned this morning > I was presented with a login screen. I tried admin and root with blank > passwords, the hardware serial number and various other values. Put the install DVD back in the system and boot from it. Once booted you should be able to locate a menu item that lets you reset the password (sorry don't have a system booted from the DVD in front of me to give you the exact menu location/name). -Shawn From joines at okstate.edu Thu Nov 1 09:25:02 2007 From: joines at okstate.edu (Jason Joines) Date: Thu Nov 1 09:25:21 2007 Subject: 10.5 default username and password after install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shawn Erickson wrote: > On 11/1/07, Jason Joines wrote: >> Yesterday I started an install of 10.5. > > Mac OS X 10.5 server of client? > >> It was a fresh install as >> I instructed it to erase the disk. It was still running when I left for >> the day. At that time I had not yet been prompted to enter any user >> information although I had entered the serial number. > > I guess this is a server install? > >> I don't remember >> exactly what screen it was at when I left. When I returned this morning >> I was presented with a login screen. I tried admin and root with blank >> passwords, the hardware serial number and various other values. > > Put the install DVD back in the system and boot from it. Once booted > you should be able to locate a menu item that lets you reset the > password (sorry don't have a system booted from the DVD in front of me > to give you the exact menu location/name). > > -Shawn Yes it was 10.5 server on an intel xserve. OK, well that sounds like it would help fix the problem in the future without a full reinstall. However, it would be much better if the installer waited on input from the user. If it's not going to do that, the next best thing would be to know what username and password it had assigned. Was it supposed to do what it did by design or was it supposed to wait? What username and password did it set? Jason =========== From shawnce at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 09:27:40 2007 From: shawnce at gmail.com (Shawn Erickson) Date: Thu Nov 1 09:27:42 2007 Subject: 10.5 default username and password after install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 11/1/07, Jason Joines wrote: > OK, well that sounds like it would help fix the problem in the > future without a full reinstall. However, it would be much better if > the installer waited on input from the user. If it's not going to do > that, the next best thing would be to know what username and password it > had assigned. Was it supposed to do what it did by design or was it > supposed to wait? What username and password did it set? I believe it should and does wait for you... did someone else type something in after you went home? We have a server that we will likely install Leopard server on in the near future (likely next week). I will have them clean install and let it sit to see what happens. -Shawn From joines at okstate.edu Thu Nov 1 09:30:14 2007 From: joines at okstate.edu (Jason Joines) Date: Thu Nov 1 09:30:19 2007 Subject: 10.5 default username and password after install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4729FF16.2090002@okstate.edu> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: 10.5 default username and password after install From: Shawn Erickson To: Jason Joines Cc: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com Date: Thu Nov 1 11:27:40 2007 > On 11/1/07, Jason Joines wrote: > >> OK, well that sounds like it would help fix the problem in the >> future without a full reinstall. However, it would be much better if >> the installer waited on input from the user. If it's not going to do >> that, the next best thing would be to know what username and password it >> had assigned. Was it supposed to do what it did by design or was it >> supposed to wait? What username and password did it set? > > I believe it should and does wait for you... did someone else type > something in after you went home? > > We have a server that we will likely install Leopard server on in the > near future (likely next week). I will have them clean install and let > it sit to see what happens. > > -Shawn No one else had physical access. That being the case, no one else should've had the hardware serial number to connect remotely either. Jason =========== From shoop at iwiring.net Thu Nov 1 13:05:13 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 1 13:05:20 2007 Subject: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <4729F9C7.1080904@okstate.edu> References: <82518202-EFDD-48F9-95D6-B216D5029BEA@iwiring.net> <4729F9C7.1080904@okstate.edu> Message-ID: <6865F09B-CA21-49C7-ADE4-9C37025D4961@iwiring.net> On Nov 1, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Jason Joines wrote: > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC > From: Dan Shoop > To: Jason Joines > Cc: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > Date: Thu Nov 1 10:58:00 2007 >> >> On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Jason Joines wrote: >> >>> The documentation for 10.5 says you can connect to the >>> running installer via SSH or VNC to continue the installation >>> remotely. It also says the password is the hardware serial >>> number. However, it doesn't mention what username to send. I've >>> tried root and admin but no luck. Anyone know what username to send? >> >> The password is only the serial number when booted off the install >> distro media. The username is root. Make sure you're trying to >> connect to the right machine. How did you try determining that? >> >> >> -dhan > > > > I was booted off the install media, I did try root, I did try > connecting to the correct machine. I used it's DNS name. You should try targeting the machine that Server Assistant reports. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist U.S. Technical Services dan.shoop@ustsvs.com AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response or urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From kremels at kreme.com Thu Nov 1 14:32:22 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Thu Nov 1 14:32:27 2007 Subject: 10.5 default username and password after install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85754C07-5984-43C8-B258-4BAE14EAF0C1@kreme.com> On 1-Nov-2007, at 10:15, Jason Joines wrote: > I've already had to do a second fresh install to remedy the situation No you didn't. You can reset the password from the startup disk. -- Yes, I do happen to believe that love is mainly about pushing chocolate covered candies and, y'know, in some cultures, a chicken. You can call me a sucker, I don't care, because I do believe in it. Bottom line: it's couples who are truly right for each other wade through the same crap as everybody else, but the big difference is they don't let it take them down. One of those two people will stand up and fight for that relationship every time. If it's right, and they're real lucky, one of them will say something. From jerry.levan at eku.edu Thu Nov 1 14:52:30 2007 From: jerry.levan at eku.edu (Jerry LeVan) Date: Thu Nov 1 14:52:37 2007 Subject: A couple of Leopard upgrade questions... Message-ID: For reasons that are not entirely clear to me I choose to do an upgrade to Leopard Client instead of an archive and install. I commented here earlier about some of the problems that ensued... I eventually was able to get everything running but have a couple of questions. 1) postfix and www are know as _postfix and _www for www I have: [mbp:~]$ dscl . read /Users/www AppleMetaNodeLocation: /Local/Default GeneratedUID: 020BB994-C502-4D19-84E8-BFF3E636D8D3 NFSHomeDirectory: /Library/WebServer Password: * PrimaryGroupID: 70 RealName: World Wide Web Server RecordName: _www www RecordType: dsRecTypeStandard:Users UniqueID: 70 UserShell: /usr/bin/false Question: Is the introduction of the underscore something new, or is this something provoked by the *upgrade* I had the same problem with postfix and I had to edit the postfix config file to use _postfix instead of postfix I also found out the tcl/tk was not upgraded. It still sits at version 8.4.7 ( I have installed Active States 8.4.16 Tcl/Tk. The active state version is supposed to coexist with the apple version) Question: How can I install the updated Apple version ( it is version 8.4.16 also); There is probably not a super rush on this question as 8.4.16 crashes whenever the Tk save file dialog in invoked ;( when in Leopard. Thabks From joines at okstate.edu Thu Nov 1 15:29:38 2007 From: joines at okstate.edu (Jason Joines) Date: Thu Nov 1 15:29:56 2007 Subject: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <6865F09B-CA21-49C7-ADE4-9C37025D4961@iwiring.net> References: <82518202-EFDD-48F9-95D6-B216D5029BEA@iwiring.net> <4729F9C7.1080904@okstate.edu> <6865F09B-CA21-49C7-ADE4-9C37025D4961@iwiring.net> Message-ID: Dan Shoop wrote: > > On Nov 1, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Jason Joines wrote: > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC >> From: Dan Shoop >> To: Jason Joines >> Cc: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com >> Date: Thu Nov 1 10:58:00 2007 >>> >>> On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Jason Joines wrote: >>> >>>> The documentation for 10.5 says you can connect to the running >>>> installer via SSH or VNC to continue the installation remotely. It >>>> also says the password is the hardware serial number. However, it >>>> doesn't mention what username to send. I've tried root and admin >>>> but no luck. Anyone know what username to send? >>> >>> The password is only the serial number when booted off the install >>> distro media. The username is root. Make sure you're trying to >>> connect to the right machine. How did you try determining that? >>> >>> >>> -dhan >> >> >> >> I was booted off the install media, I did try root, I did try >> connecting to the correct machine. I used it's DNS name. > > You should try targeting the machine that Server Assistant reports. > > -dhan During the install, while at the local machine, I used some tool I believe was called "network utility" and verified it had obtained the correct static IP address from DHCP that statically maps to the DNS name I used. Jason =========== From hexstar at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 17:39:40 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Thu Nov 1 17:39:47 2007 Subject: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: References: <82518202-EFDD-48F9-95D6-B216D5029BEA@iwiring.net> <4729F9C7.1080904@okstate.edu> <6865F09B-CA21-49C7-ADE4-9C37025D4961@iwiring.net> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711011739p5129e8d0v38c7d70ec3ab01ed@mail.gmail.com> On 11/1/07, Jason Joines wrote: > During the install, while at the local machine, I used some tool I > believe was called "network utility" and verified it had obtained the > correct static IP address from DHCP that statically maps to the DNS name > I used. I also would recommend connecting to this machine via the address provided by the installer as it may be like Apache where while you can get to the server by both it's IP and a domain name in either case you often get a different page From hexstar at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 17:45:04 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Thu Nov 1 17:45:10 2007 Subject: A couple of Leopard upgrade questions... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711011745m7edca7a8ja48a9fe74ea8407e@mail.gmail.com> On 11/1/07, Jerry LeVan wrote: > I eventually was able to get everything running but have > a couple of questions. > > 1) postfix and www are know as _postfix and _www > for www I have: I also have noticed underscores being added to the beginning of system accounts and I did a archive and install from Mac OS X 10.4.10 so I assume this is supposed to happen... From hexstar at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 17:51:28 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Thu Nov 1 17:51:34 2007 Subject: 10.5 default username and password after install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711011751o160e824ax6381eb02a33af3a4@mail.gmail.com> On 11/1/07, Jason Joines wrote: > I've already had to do a second fresh install to remedy the > situation but I'd like to know the answer for future reference. When an > install is left running, does it set up some default username and > password? If so, what? There is no default username/password, someone somehow provided a username/password and told the installer to continue on... From nbfa at stanford.edu Thu Nov 1 21:45:39 2007 From: nbfa at stanford.edu (Noah Abrahamson) Date: Thu Nov 1 21:45:45 2007 Subject: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70987DEA-5099-4C2F-A925-EA3518D3D052@stanford.edu> On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Jason Joines wrote: > The documentation for 10.5 says you can connect to the running > installer via SSH or VNC to continue the installation remotely. It > also says the password is the hardware serial number. However, it > doesn't mention what username to send. I've tried root and admin > but no luck. Anyone know what username to send? If I remember correctly, it's the actually just the first eight characters of the serial number (or, if it's really ancient hardware, it's 12345678). Also, try uppercase or lowercase, one of them is correct. Noah ------------------- Noah Abrahamson Stanford University From shoop at iwiring.net Thu Nov 1 22:27:40 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 1 22:27:51 2007 Subject: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <70987DEA-5099-4C2F-A925-EA3518D3D052@stanford.edu> References: <70987DEA-5099-4C2F-A925-EA3518D3D052@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <50FDE32D-4033-40F0-A1E6-AB9ABF1F0DAE@iwiring.net> On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:45 AM, Noah Abrahamson wrote: > > On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Jason Joines wrote: > >> The documentation for 10.5 says you can connect to the running >> installer via SSH or VNC to continue the installation remotely. >> It also says the password is the hardware serial number. However, >> it doesn't mention what username to send. I've tried root and >> admin but no luck. Anyone know what username to send? > > > If I remember correctly, it's the actually just the first eight > characters of the serial number (or, if it's really ancient > hardware, it's 12345678). Also, try uppercase or lowercase, one of > them is correct. Or just read the docs which states how to do this. Seriously folks, this isn't guesswork. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist U.S. Technical Services dan.shoop@ustsvs.com AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response or urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From costabel at wanadoo.fr Fri Nov 2 01:41:10 2007 From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel) Date: Fri Nov 2 01:41:15 2007 Subject: A couple of Leopard upgrade questions... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472AE2A6.6070008@wanadoo.fr> Jerry LeVan wrote: [] > I also found out the tcl/tk was not upgraded. It still sits > at version 8.4.7 ( I have installed Active States 8.4.16 > Tcl/Tk. The active state version is supposed to coexist with > the apple version) > > Question: How can I install the updated Apple version ( it is > version 8.4.16 also); Where did you see this updated Apple version? I only see 8.4.7 on Leopard. -- Martin From garrison at zeta.org.au Fri Nov 2 08:30:55 2007 From: garrison at zeta.org.au (Charlie Garrison) Date: Fri Nov 2 08:36:09 2007 Subject: Linux on intel xserve In-Reply-To: <4728D6B1.8050909@okstate.edu> Message-ID: Good morning, On 31/10/07 at 2:25 PM -0500, Jason Joines wrote: >However, I can't get the intel xserve to even boot >off of an Ubuntu CD. I tried holding down the C key, the cd is just >ignored. Is the box 'unlocked'? It won't boot from a CD if the 'switch' is in the locked position. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt From joines at okstate.edu Fri Nov 2 12:49:18 2007 From: joines at okstate.edu (Jason Joines) Date: Fri Nov 2 12:49:49 2007 Subject: boot camp in 10.5 on intel xserve Message-ID: Support, I installed os x server 10.5 on an intel xserve. Then I tried to run boot camp. When launched Boot Camp Assistant reports "Boot Camp Assistant cannot be used. You must update your computer's Boot ROM firmware before using this setup assistant." I ran Server Updates and installed the latest firmware. The update was successful as no more updates are listed as available. However, I still get the exact same results when I try to run Boot Camp Assistant. Any suggestions? Jason Joines ================================= From gustavo.beathyate at mac.com Fri Nov 2 13:06:16 2007 From: gustavo.beathyate at mac.com (Gustavo Beathyate) Date: Fri Nov 2 13:06:28 2007 Subject: boot camp in 10.5 on intel xserve In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34A484C1-3642-475E-9589-C7825AC347DF@mac.com> On Nov 2, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Jason Joines wrote: > Any suggestions? Bootcamp is not supported on Xserves. HTH, Gustavo From charliehavens at mac.com Fri Nov 2 15:03:41 2007 From: charliehavens at mac.com (Charlie Havens) Date: Fri Nov 2 15:03:55 2007 Subject: securing external portable firewire drives containing TIme Machine's backup directory Message-ID: <4466DD69-3344-4161-AA2E-3242234D666F@mac.com> I am helping an organization develop a backup strategy for their traveling laptop users which would include issuing those users portable external Firewire drives to carry with them, using Leopard's Time Machine to backup to those portables, when on they are on road. Are those Time Machine files fully view able by anyone mounting that external drive. If so, should that external drive get lost or stolen, anyone could read those files. The question is whether there is a solution for external drive security, which would still allow Time Machine to access and use that drive, but would not make those files available to a casual thief? Are there drives that have some sort of built in security to access the drive? Something where the drive would only work when attached to computers having certain MAC addresses? We would want it to include a list of MAC addresses, other than that particular user's laptop, as their laptop may fail or have a logic board replaced and then they would end up with a different MAC address, unrecognized by the external drive. A drive whose directory only mounts with a password, would also work. A drive where the security is built into the firmware of the drive, rather than software on the volume, might be more secure. Some thing similar to File Vault, but encompassing the root directory of the external hard drive? Am I asking for something crazy, or have I missed some security that is built into Leopard's Time Machine and I am mount the drive on machines were I already have read/write access. Charlie Havens Wooded Isle Computer Consultants, 5750 S. Stony Island Av., Chicago, IL 60637 Office 773-256-1099 Cell 773-848-0154 Fax 773-305-1916 charliehavens@mac.com www.woodedisleconsult.com From william.bathurst at m2mi.com Fri Nov 2 16:15:46 2007 From: william.bathurst at m2mi.com (William Bathurst) Date: Fri Nov 2 16:48:26 2007 Subject: Automated Backup Message-ID: <472BAFA2.7000302@m2mi.com> I have a couple of Apple Xserves. I was wondering what people use for automated backup scripts. I would be initially be backing up to a XServe Raid array. Also, we use one of our XServes as a mail server. Has anyone looked at how to they would implement a backup mail server? TIA, Bill -- *William Bathurst* m2mi.com Web: m2mi.com Email: william.bathurst@m2mi.com Phone: (650) 868 3157 From shoop at iwiring.net Fri Nov 2 19:50:56 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Fri Nov 2 19:51:17 2007 Subject: boot camp in 10.5 on intel xserve In-Reply-To: <34A484C1-3642-475E-9589-C7825AC347DF@mac.com> References: <34A484C1-3642-475E-9589-C7825AC347DF@mac.com> Message-ID: On Nov 2, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Gustavo Beathyate wrote: > > On Nov 2, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Jason Joines wrote: > >> Any suggestions? > > Bootcamp is not supported on Xserves. Which make sense, it's a server. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist U.S. Technical Services dan.shoop@ustsvs.com AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response or urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From shoop at iwiring.net Fri Nov 2 19:52:53 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Fri Nov 2 19:53:09 2007 Subject: securing external portable firewire drives containing TIme Machine's backup directory In-Reply-To: <4466DD69-3344-4161-AA2E-3242234D666F@mac.com> References: <4466DD69-3344-4161-AA2E-3242234D666F@mac.com> Message-ID: <672A0226-6177-4033-91D6-858715086666@iwiring.net> On Nov 2, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Charlie Havens wrote: > The question is whether there is a solution for external drive > security, which would still allow Time Machine to access and use > that drive, but would not make those files available to a casual > thief? Use drives with hw encryption or Use an encrypted dmg on the disk as the volume. > Are there drives that have some sort of built in security to access > the drive? Yes. Many even require biometric identifiers. > Something where the drive would only work when attached to > computers having certain MAC addresses? How about the owners finger? MAC addresses are soooo easily spoofed. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist U.S. Technical Services dan.shoop@ustsvs.com AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response or urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From shoop at iwiring.net Fri Nov 2 19:56:23 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Fri Nov 2 19:56:31 2007 Subject: Automated Backup In-Reply-To: <472BAFA2.7000302@m2mi.com> References: <472BAFA2.7000302@m2mi.com> Message-ID: <3013FF63-FC24-4081-A802-B6FE832BB738@iwiring.net> On Nov 2, 2007, at 7:15 PM, William Bathurst wrote: > I have a couple of Apple Xserves. I was wondering what people use > for automated backup scripts. sh? > I would be initially be backing up to a XServe Raid array. First develop a Backup Policy Second develop a Backup Strategy. It will be driven by the above. THEN work on this topic of backup implementation as it is driven by the above two. That said there's tar and a host of other tools. Media for backup often will determine tools too. > Also, we use one of our XServes as a mail server. Has anyone looked > at how to they would implement a backup mail server? Like all backups you need a quiescent filesystem, so stop mail before the backup so the db's are closed. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist U.S. Technical Services dan.shoop@ustsvs.com AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response or urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From hexstar at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 20:52:38 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Fri Nov 2 20:52:42 2007 Subject: boot camp in 10.5 on intel xserve In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711022052s71a8eb0drb7cc7444132b7c80@mail.gmail.com> On 11/2/07, Jason Joines wrote: > Support, > > I installed os x server 10.5 on an intel xserve. Then I tried to > run boot camp. When launched Boot Camp Assistant reports "Boot Camp > Assistant cannot be used. You must update your computer's Boot ROM > firmware before using this setup assistant." I ran Server Updates and > installed the latest firmware. The update was successful as no more > updates are listed as available. However, I still get the exact same > results when I try to run Boot Camp Assistant. Any suggestions? There is no Boot Camp supported ROM released for the xserve because it is a server and is not supposed to be running anything but Mac OS X, this is also why PC operating systems such as linux live cds will not boot on them as only boot camp compatible roms contain the pc bios emulation code necessary to do so From kremels at kreme.com Fri Nov 2 22:20:07 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Nov 2 22:20:10 2007 Subject: securing external portable firewire drives containing TIme Machine's backup directory In-Reply-To: <672A0226-6177-4033-91D6-858715086666@iwiring.net> References: <4466DD69-3344-4161-AA2E-3242234D666F@mac.com> <672A0226-6177-4033-91D6-858715086666@iwiring.net> Message-ID: On 2-Nov-2007, at 20:52, Dan Shoop wrote: > How about the owners finger? Just for the record, bypassing fingerprint scans is MUCH easier than spoofing a MAC address. In most cases putting on a latex glove, licking your finger, and pressing it to the scanner will authenticate you. -- Love seeketh not itself to please Nor for itself hath any care But for another gives its ease And builds a heaven in Hell's despair From bobbyg at mac.com Sat Nov 3 10:03:44 2007 From: bobbyg at mac.com (Bob Gore) Date: Sat Nov 3 10:03:49 2007 Subject: connecting to 10.5 install via SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Jason Joines wrote: > However, it doesn't mention what username to send. I've tried root > and admin but no luck. Anyone know what username to send? Last evening I used a local Server Asst. to set up a server over a VPN connection and after determining the DHCP address the would-be server had been assigned (it didn't show via SA's scanner), used NO user name and the first 8 characters of the machine's serial no. Perhaps it assumes root, dunno. -- bob gore expertise IT services/90405 From rpeskin at rlpcon.com Sat Nov 3 22:09:57 2007 From: rpeskin at rlpcon.com (Richard Peskin) Date: Sat Nov 3 22:13:36 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion Message-ID: We're finally upgrading hardware here and need to select a Windows environment to run on the Intel based Macs. Which would be the preferred choice, Parallels or Fusion? thanks, --dick peskin ____________________________________ Richard L. Peskin, RLP Consulting, Londonderry, VT http://www.rlpcon.com http://www.caip.rutgers.edu/~peskin From rpeskin at rlpcon.com Sat Nov 3 22:07:42 2007 From: rpeskin at rlpcon.com (Richard Peskin) Date: Sat Nov 3 22:15:36 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing Message-ID: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> I've read positive evaluations of 10.5's screen sharing; in particular that it is reasonably fast. Is this the same technology as the VNC built as part of Apple Remote Desktop in 10.4? I currently use this VNC for remote workstation access using ChickenOfTheVNC as a client. And I don't find this particularly fast even over the gigabit ethernet. Is the screen sharing in 10.5 really faster? thanks, --dick peskin ____________________________________ Richard L. Peskin, RLP Consulting, Londonderry, VT http://www.rlpcon.com http://www.caip.rutgers.edu/~peskin From ij.list at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 23:56:06 2007 From: ij.list at gmail.com (Izidor Jerebic) Date: Sat Nov 3 23:56:13 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7BA1DC2A-E2CE-4739-97D7-175BE547F6A5@gmail.com> On 4.11.2007, at 6:09, Richard Peskin wrote: > We're finally upgrading hardware here and need to select a Windows > environment to run on the Intel based Macs. Which would be the > preferred choice, Parallels or Fusion? > thanks, I am using Parallels and it works fine (in Tiger, did not check Leopard yet) for Windows development (MS Visual Studio). I did not use Fusion myself, but there was a complaint in blogosphere about shared folders not working in Fusion: izidor From ij.list at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 23:57:02 2007 From: ij.list at gmail.com (Izidor Jerebic) Date: Sat Nov 3 23:57:08 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing In-Reply-To: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> References: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: <58781C7D-642A-43B8-A637-7D0973A9B4E8@gmail.com> On 4.11.2007, at 6:07, Richard Peskin wrote: > I've read positive evaluations of 10.5's screen sharing; in > particular that it is reasonably fast. Is this the same technology > as the VNC built as part of Apple Remote Desktop in 10.4? I > currently use this VNC for remote workstation access using > ChickenOfTheVNC as a client. And I don't find this particularly fast > even over the gigabit ethernet. Is the screen sharing in 10.5 really > faster? > thanks, It is faster. But you may want to try for yourself to see if it is "faster enough" for you.... izidor From kremels at kreme.com Sun Nov 4 00:07:28 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sun Nov 4 00:07:31 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3-Nov-2007, at 23:09, Richard Peskin wrote: > We're finally upgrading hardware here and need to select a Windows > environment to run on the Intel based Macs. Which would be the > preferred choice, Parallels or Fusion? They are both really really really good and whichever you chose you will likely be very happy with. Some people are vehement about one over the other but I think that's a 'less filling' 'tastes great' argument. I've played with both, albeit briefly, and they were both so good I was quite shocked. I think if I wear purchasing I might lean a bit toward VMware but that is likely colored by the fact I know someone who's working there now. I do like that its integrated mode feels a little cleaner to me, but really, it's a narrow distinction. I believe both products offer demo versions, so try them out. They are also both updated frequently, and new features and new fixes are out at a rapid pace, so don't put much stock in any issues posted on the Internet about either product that are more than a couple of weeks old. -- It's like looking for the farmers daughter in a haystack, and finding the needle. From garrison at zeta.org.au Sun Nov 4 03:06:22 2007 From: garrison at zeta.org.au (Charlie Garrison) Date: Sun Nov 4 03:06:26 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing In-Reply-To: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: Good evening, On 4/11/07 at 1:07 AM -0400, Richard Peskin wrote: >I currently use this VNC for remote workstation access using >ChickenOfTheVNC as a client. And I don't find this particularly >fast even over the gigabit ethernet. Is the screen sharing in >10.5 really faster? Try JollysFastVNC. I found it to be MUCH faster than ChickenOfTheVNC for both LAN and WAN connections. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt From larkost at softhome.net Sun Nov 4 06:13:45 2007 From: larkost at softhome.net (Karl Kuehn) Date: Sun Nov 4 06:14:52 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing In-Reply-To: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> References: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: <2B1DE900-5F14-4F7D-ADA2-C265092CEA5E@softhome.net> On Nov 4, 2007, at 1:07 AM, Richard Peskin wrote: > I've read positive evaluations of 10.5's screen sharing; in > particular that it is reasonably fast. Is this the same technology > as the VNC built as part of Apple Remote Desktop in 10.4? I > currently use this VNC for remote workstation access using > ChickenOfTheVNC as a client. And I don't find this particularly fast > even over the gigabit ethernet. Is the screen sharing in 10.5 really > faster? Note that just because you are using the same protocol does not mean that your client supports all of the best settings for the server. Apple's Remote DEsktop client, and by extension the Screen Sharing system, supports all of the tricks that Apples VNC server supports. So even without any server improvements you might get noticeable improvements just by switching to Apple's code. -- Karl Kuehn larkost@softhome.net From hexstar at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 13:57:25 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Sun Nov 4 13:57:32 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing In-Reply-To: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> References: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711041357w3b8bf42bnb569e049345d131@mail.gmail.com> On 11/3/07, Richard Peskin wrote: >Is the screen sharing in 10.5 really faster? Yes because the apple client uses better compression methods From hexstar at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 14:13:59 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Sun Nov 4 14:14:02 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711041413w7f0bd7bcv1c76c901648e87a1@mail.gmail.com> On 11/3/07, Richard Peskin wrote: > We're finally upgrading hardware here and need to select a Windows > environment to run on the Intel based Macs. Which would be the > preferred choice, Parallels or Fusion? I recommend Parallels, it has been around longer and is more mature IMO. They have a forum you can check out at http://forums.parallels.com From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Sun Nov 4 15:33:21 2007 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks) Date: Sun Nov 4 15:33:27 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0711041413w7f0bd7bcv1c76c901648e87a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <5dc6fd9e0711041413w7f0bd7bcv1c76c901648e87a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Nov 4, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Hex Star wrote: > On 11/3/07, Richard Peskin wrote: >> We're finally upgrading hardware here and need to select a Windows >> environment to run on the Intel based Macs. Which would be the >> preferred choice, Parallels or Fusion? > > I recommend Parallels, it has been around longer You are joking, aren't you? While the MAc version of VMWare is newer than the Parallels one, BMWare has been doing x86 virtualization for over a decade. The Mac bits are just eye candy ;-) > and is more mature Most reviews I have read think VMWare is more mature and feels more solid though it is the newer Mac product. I don't know as I have not tried it. I just have an older version of parallels, which works fine. I did set up my sisters Macbook with Parallels and XP and after a while XP started to freeze on boot or something. I have not seen it in person since it started doing it so I don't know what the issue is. I told me sister to install any Parallels updates but have not heard back. She is stressing as she replaced a broken XP machine with WordPerfect that she was using for her dissertation and nowher new computer's Parallels and XP is flaking out and she cannot use WP... I wish she would drive up here so I can help her fix it. (about a 1 hour drive) Either will probably work Chad > > IMO. They have a forum you can check out at > http://forums.parallels.com > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From kremels at kreme.com Sun Nov 4 17:06:08 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Sun Nov 4 17:06:15 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0711041413w7f0bd7bcv1c76c901648e87a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <5dc6fd9e0711041413w7f0bd7bcv1c76c901648e87a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7502178F-D0EC-406C-B29A-B79961D00DFB@kreme.com> On 4-Nov-2007, at 15:13, Hex Star wrote: > On 11/3/07, Richard Peskin wrote: >> We're finally upgrading hardware here and need to select a Windows >> environment to run on the Intel based Macs. Which would be the >> preferred choice, Parallels or Fusion? > > I recommend Parallels, it has been around longer and is more mature > IMO. They have a forum you can check out at > http://forums.parallels.com Actually, VMWare has been around longer and has MUCH more experience in virtualization. Their Mac desktop program is newer than parallels. I would certainly not say it is less mature. -- There's a race of men that don't fit in, A race that can't stay still So they break the hearts of kith and kin, And they roam the world at will. From hexstar at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 17:08:34 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Sun Nov 4 17:08:39 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: <7502178F-D0EC-406C-B29A-B79961D00DFB@kreme.com> References: <5dc6fd9e0711041413w7f0bd7bcv1c76c901648e87a1@mail.gmail.com> <7502178F-D0EC-406C-B29A-B79961D00DFB@kreme.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711041708s3f0dd0f1kd78784c8160da8d7@mail.gmail.com> On 11/4/07, LuKreme wrote: > Actually, VMWare has been around longer and has MUCH more experience > in virtualization. Their Mac desktop program is newer than > parallels. I would certainly not say it is less mature. Sorry for the confusion, I meant that Parallels has been around longer and is more mature in the area of virtualization within Mac OS X. I didn't mean that Parallels is more mature and has been around longer then all of vmware's products as that clearly is not true. From scott_ribe at killerbytes.com Sun Nov 4 18:02:43 2007 From: scott_ribe at killerbytes.com (Scott Ribe) Date: Sun Nov 4 18:03:34 2007 Subject: securing external portable firewire drives containing TIme Machine's backup directory In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Just for the record, bypassing fingerprint scans is MUCH easier than > spoofing a MAC address. In most cases putting on a latex glove, > licking your finger, and pressing it to the scanner will authenticate > you. Image or capacitance sensors? I haven't kept up with this, but most such hacks I read about in the earlier days were for image sensors. -- Scott Ribe scott_ribe@killerbytes.com http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice From PERBIX at lmsd.org Sun Nov 4 19:28:11 2007 From: PERBIX at lmsd.org (Perbix, Michael) Date: Sun Nov 4 19:30:48 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0711041357w3b8bf42bnb569e049345d131@mail.gmail.com> References: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com>, <5dc6fd9e0711041357w3b8bf42bnb569e049345d131@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <06A81E8192910B41B2B3FFD57535BCF746AEC3FF6B@MS1.lmsd.org> I was jut VPN'ed into my network and used the Client (go to server vnc://1.2.3.4) and not only did I get a niced scaled screen (Apple 30" Cinema Display on my MacBook Pro) but I had the option to turn off the second screen, and the remote control was super smooth, supported right clicks (two finger mousepad clicks) and was the best I have seen thus far. -Mike ________________________________________ From: macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com [macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com] On Behalf Of Hex Star [hexstar@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:57 PM To: Richard Peskin; MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com Subject: Re: Leopard screen sharing On 11/3/07, Richard Peskin wrote: >Is the screen sharing in 10.5 really faster? Yes because the apple client uses better compression methods _______________________________________________ MacOSX-admin mailing list MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From PERBIX at lmsd.org Sun Nov 4 19:34:54 2007 From: PERBIX at lmsd.org (Perbix, Michael) Date: Sun Nov 4 19:37:25 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing In-Reply-To: <06A81E8192910B41B2B3FFD57535BCF746AEC3FF6B@MS1.lmsd.org> References: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com>, <5dc6fd9e0711041357w3b8bf42bnb569e049345d131@mail.gmail.com>, <06A81E8192910B41B2B3FFD57535BCF746AEC3FF6B@MS1.lmsd.org> Message-ID: <06A81E8192910B41B2B3FFD57535BCF746AEC3FF6C@MS1.lmsd.org> I should also say, that I just tried to control a Windows box (running TightVNC Server) that was very VERY slow, using the RealVNC client on OSX was much faster, as well as allowing me to send ctrl-alt-delete etc. So, for Mac clients.....yeah, it works very well (my previous test was a 10.4.10 MacPro with 30" Cinema Display and 19" 2nd LCD). -Mike ________________________________________ From: macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com [macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com] On Behalf Of Perbix, Michael [PERBIX@lmsd.org] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:28 PM To: Hex Star; Richard Peskin; MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com Subject: RE: Leopard screen sharing I was jut VPN'ed into my network and used the Client (go to server vnc://1.2.3.4) and not only did I get a niced scaled screen (Apple 30" Cinema Display on my MacBook Pro) but I had the option to turn off the second screen, and the remote control was super smooth, supported right clicks (two finger mousepad clicks) and was the best I have seen thus far. -Mike ________________________________________ From: macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com [macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com] On Behalf Of Hex Star [hexstar@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:57 PM To: Richard Peskin; MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com Subject: Re: Leopard screen sharing On 11/3/07, Richard Peskin wrote: >Is the screen sharing in 10.5 really faster? Yes because the apple client uses better compression methods _______________________________________________ MacOSX-admin mailing list MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin _______________________________________________ MacOSX-admin mailing list MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From shoop at iwiring.net Sun Nov 4 21:59:33 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Sun Nov 4 21:59:38 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0711041708s3f0dd0f1kd78784c8160da8d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <5dc6fd9e0711041413w7f0bd7bcv1c76c901648e87a1@mail.gmail.com> <7502178F-D0EC-406C-B29A-B79961D00DFB@kreme.com> <5dc6fd9e0711041708s3f0dd0f1kd78784c8160da8d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5C7EDE26-8A2B-46C7-9C68-8584D5A7AD56@iwiring.net> On Nov 4, 2007, at 8:08 PM, Hex Star wrote: > On 11/4/07, LuKreme wrote: >> Actually, VMWare has been around longer and has MUCH more experience >> in virtualization. Their Mac desktop program is newer than >> parallels. I would certainly not say it is less mature. > > > Sorry for the confusion, I meant that Parallels has been around longer > and is more mature in the area of virtualization within Mac OS X. I > didn't mean that Parallels is more mature and has been around longer > then all of vmware's products as that clearly is not true. Right, b/c both are novices in dealing with virtual machines. The PC and mircocomputer industry has been slowly -- very slowly -- reinventing concepts from bigger iron since their inception, and with much poorer results. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist U.S. Technical Services dan.shoop@ustsvs.com AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response or urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From donmontalvo at mac.com Sun Nov 4 22:08:59 2007 From: donmontalvo at mac.com (Don Montalvo) Date: Sun Nov 4 22:09:05 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: <20071104200004.91A291CE740@forums.omnigroup.com> References: <20071104200004.91A291CE740@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: Richard Peskin wrote: > We're finally upgrading hardware here and need to select a Windows > environment to run on the Intel based Macs. Which would be the > preferred choice, Parallels or Fusion? > thanks, > --dick peskin We went with Parallels simply because it was the first solution on the market. Once VMWare Fusion was released, we revisited and the choice was clear. Parallels' development seems to have drifted off on a tangent chasing home user requests, where VMWare development seemed more geared towards business where stability and compatibility are more important. Don From jearle at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 01:39:15 2007 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Mon Nov 5 01:39:23 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing In-Reply-To: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> References: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60711050139r72c65b4dl305d33f4a7471c30@mail.gmail.com> On 11/4/07, Richard Peskin wrote: > Is the screen sharing in 10.5 really faster? I used to use OsxVNC and Chicken until I got Leopard. Screen Sharing is vastly superior for my needs. The scaling alone makes it all worthwhile, as does passing trackpad multi-touch to the server properly. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net The Spodcast :: http://spodcast.org From jearle at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 01:41:47 2007 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Mon Nov 5 01:41:51 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60711050141h200452b0hd4eb30118fb01e2b@mail.gmail.com> On 11/4/07, Richard Peskin wrote: > We're finally upgrading hardware here and need to select a Windows > environment to run on the Intel based Macs. Which would be the > preferred choice, Parallels or Fusion? Parallels had the edge until Fusion got into its stride and now Fusion comprehensively rules the roost. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net The Spodcast :: http://spodcast.org From merlyn at stonehenge.com Mon Nov 5 05:40:24 2007 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Nov 5 05:40:28 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: (Don Montalvo's message of "Sun, 4 Nov 2007 22:08:59 -0800") References: <20071104200004.91A291CE740@forums.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <86lk9cstdj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Don" == Don Montalvo writes: Don> We went with Parallels simply because it was the first solution on the Don> market. Once VMWare Fusion was released, we revisited and the choice was Don> clear. Parallels' development seems to have drifted off on a tangent chasing Don> home user requests, where VMWare development seemed more geared towards Don> business where stability and compatibility are more important. Also note that it has been alleged that the software that Parallels Inc is selling might not rightfully be theirs: http://www.virtual-strategy.com/article/articleview/2042/1/2/ Looks pretty damning to me. The result of a bad business divorce, and the bitter fights that result from that. So by buying parallels, you may be supporting Russian pirates. I'm pretty sure VMWare has the rights to their own software. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From PERBIX at lmsd.org Mon Nov 5 06:40:28 2007 From: PERBIX at lmsd.org (Perbix, Michael) Date: Mon Nov 5 06:40:37 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing In-Reply-To: <5bbc0cd60711050139r72c65b4dl305d33f4a7471c30@mail.gmail.com> References: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> <5bbc0cd60711050139r72c65b4dl305d33f4a7471c30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <06A81E8192910B41B2B3FFD57535BCF746AED13D1D@MS1.lmsd.org> Btw, on the same note, anyone know if it is possible to get the screen sharing app from 10.5 in 10.4? I will try later and see if it is just an app...but if so, that would be awesome. -Mike -----Original Message----- From: macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com [mailto:macosx-admin-bounces@omnigroup.com] On Behalf Of Jared Earle Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:39 AM To: macosx-admin Subject: Re: Leopard screen sharing On 11/4/07, Richard Peskin wrote: > Is the screen sharing in 10.5 really faster? I used to use OsxVNC and Chicken until I got Leopard. Screen Sharing is vastly superior for my needs. The scaling alone makes it all worthwhile, as does passing trackpad multi-touch to the server properly. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net The Spodcast :: http://spodcast.org _______________________________________________ MacOSX-admin mailing list MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From conrad at yoders.org Mon Nov 5 05:54:33 2007 From: conrad at yoders.org (Conrad G T Yoder) Date: Mon Nov 5 06:53:03 2007 Subject: iChat icon location Message-ID: I used to know where they live, but now I can't find them any more: where is the cache of Buddy List icons for iChat? I know some of mine are at ~/Library/Images/iChat Recent Pictures/, but where are the rest? TIA. -Conrad -- Loose talk is noose talk. Be a live patriot. Not a dead traitor. From shoop at iwiring.net Mon Nov 5 08:00:54 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Mon Nov 5 08:01:07 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: <86lk9cstdj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20071104200004.91A291CE740@forums.omnigroup.com> <86lk9cstdj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Looks pretty damning to me. The result of a bad business divorce, > and the > bitter fights that result from that. So by buying parallels, you > may be > supporting Russian pirates. Sounds like a selling point to me. Should help keep down global warming since it's a lack of pirates that is causing the problem. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist U.S. Technical Services dan.shoop@ustsvs.com AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response or urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From kremels at kreme.com Mon Nov 5 08:32:24 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Mon Nov 5 08:32:29 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: <86lk9cstdj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20071104200004.91A291CE740@forums.omnigroup.com> <86lk9cstdj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <37036F72-B337-415D-AE0D-D6F2AA012103@kreme.com> On 5-Nov-2007, at 06:40, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > http://www.virtual-strategy.com/article/articleview/2042/1/2/ > > Looks pretty damning to me. Sure, but it's all the story from one side. We know nothing about the terms of the contract or the terms of the 'divorce'. For example, if one company broke their contractual obligations by not paying for the code then the ownership of that code would never legally transfer. -- Love seeketh not itself to please Nor for itself hath any care But for another gives its ease And builds a heaven in Hell's despair From kremels at kreme.com Mon Nov 5 08:33:03 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Mon Nov 5 08:33:07 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: References: <20071104200004.91A291CE740@forums.omnigroup.com> <86lk9cstdj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <75D47FBC-4FEC-4A03-809F-CC4A6994CF0B@kreme.com> On 5-Nov-2007, at 09:00, Dan Shoop wrote: > Sounds like a selling point to me. Should help keep down global > warming since it's a lack of pirates that is causing the problem. For the unenlightened: -- "Eureka," he said. "Going to have a bath then?" From donmontalvo at mac.com Mon Nov 5 11:51:40 2007 From: donmontalvo at mac.com (don montalvo) Date: Mon Nov 5 11:51:53 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: References: <20071104200004.91A291CE740@forums.omnigroup.com> <86lk9cstdj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <7ED9D1FC-0115-1000-C904-91F4603DDF6C-Webmail-10011@mac.com> On Monday, November 05, 2007, at 11:01AM, "Dan Shoop" wrote: > >On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> Looks pretty damning to me. The result of a bad business divorce, >> and the >> bitter fights that result from that. So by buying parallels, you >> may be >> supporting Russian pirates. > >Sounds like a selling point to me. Should help keep down global >warming since it's a lack of pirates that is causing the problem. > >-dhan ...add to this some pressure we got from the business side who have already sunk money into VMWare (money very well spent, I might add ). Don From hexstar at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 16:22:24 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Mon Nov 5 16:22:31 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: <86lk9cstdj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20071104200004.91A291CE740@forums.omnigroup.com> <86lk9cstdj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711051622x59adac05sd208cd6154c09355@mail.gmail.com> On 11/5/07, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Looks pretty damning to me. The result of a bad business divorce, and the > bitter fights that result from that. So by buying parallels, you may be > supporting Russian pirates. > > I'm pretty sure VMWare has the rights to their own software. :) This is rather one sided is it not? We have no information on the contract that is involved in all this nor the divorce From hexstar at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 22:54:20 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Mon Nov 5 22:54:24 2007 Subject: Leopard screen sharing In-Reply-To: <06A81E8192910B41B2B3FFD57535BCF746AED13D1D@MS1.lmsd.org> References: <5D8ADDD4-66BB-41C5-8CB3-F1697346F1D9@rlpcon.com> <5bbc0cd60711050139r72c65b4dl305d33f4a7471c30@mail.gmail.com> <06A81E8192910B41B2B3FFD57535BCF746AED13D1D@MS1.lmsd.org> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711052254kc8ccafk6450c06e4b46d57d@mail.gmail.com> On 11/5/07, Perbix, Michael wrote: > Btw, on the same note, anyone know if it is possible to get the screen sharing app from 10.5 in >10.4? I will try later and see if it is just an app...but if so, that would be awesome. Please report back your findings! :) From alstos at chowan.edu Tue Nov 6 07:42:44 2007 From: alstos at chowan.edu (Susan Alston) Date: Tue Nov 6 07:42:51 2007 Subject: Head cleaning/Administrator problem Message-ID: <8a4711520711060742n79f5410fqd3a4c9b9b3f8311f@mail.gmail.com> I am a new administrator for Mac OS 10.4. 9 computers. We have an Epson R1800 connected to this computer that needs frequent head cleanings. Currently you have to log in as an administrator to perform head cleanings. How can I make this head cleaning function available to a student/instructor login without making other administrator functions available to them also? -- Susan Alston Internet Developer/Blackboard Administrator Chowan University 252-398-6263 From scott_ribe at killerbytes.com Tue Nov 6 07:49:34 2007 From: scott_ribe at killerbytes.com (Scott Ribe) Date: Tue Nov 6 07:49:42 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0711051622x59adac05sd208cd6154c09355@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > This is rather one sided is it not? We have no information on the > contract that is involved in all this nor the divorce The presentation is indeed one-sided. However, it is an established fact that there is a dispute over ownership, which by itself is somewhat troubling. -- Scott Ribe scott_ribe@killerbytes.com http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice From shoop at iwiring.net Tue Nov 6 10:22:21 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Tue Nov 6 10:22:44 2007 Subject: Parallels or VM Fusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Scott Ribe wrote: >> This is rather one sided is it not? We have no information on the >> contract that is involved in all this nor the divorce > > The presentation is indeed one-sided. However, it is an established > fact > that there is a dispute over ownership, which by itself is somewhat > troubling. Actually it's not an established fact that there's a dispute, that's what the court is being asked to decide. The suits before the court are making claims for a dispute and asking the court to agree. In any event any pending suits, disputes, and even verdicts never really make too much of a difference for busineses looking to choose a product. Look at Vonage or Blackberry. Or MSFT -- they seem to be in court all the time over IP issues and no one seems loathe to buy there twaddle. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist iWiring / U.S. Technical Services shoop@iwiring.net AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response for urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From shoop at iwiring.net Tue Nov 6 10:23:09 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Tue Nov 6 10:23:15 2007 Subject: Head cleaning/Administrator problem In-Reply-To: <8a4711520711060742n79f5410fqd3a4c9b9b3f8311f@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a4711520711060742n79f5410fqd3a4c9b9b3f8311f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7D51E49E-E25E-40AF-9674-60722CDDCC39@iwiring.net> On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Susan Alston wrote: > I am a new administrator for Mac OS 10.4. 9 computers. We have an > Epson > R1800 connected to this computer that needs frequent head > cleanings. Currently > you have to log in as an administrator to perform head cleanings. > How can I > make this head cleaning function available to a student/instructor > login > without making other administrator functions available to them also? Have you contacted the vendor? -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist iWiring / U.S. Technical Services shoop@iwiring.net AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response for urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From rpeskin at rlpcon.com Tue Nov 6 12:20:14 2007 From: rpeskin at rlpcon.com (Richard Peskin) Date: Tue Nov 6 12:20:27 2007 Subject: NetInfo Manager? Message-ID: <45188542-5915-44F2-A374-27FB4953D18F@rlpcon.com> It looks like "NetInfo Manager" is no longer a part of Leopard (10.5). What now serves as the database to store things like user home directories in Leopard (plain Leopard, not Leopard server). thanks, --dick peskin ____________________________________ Richard L. Peskin, RLP Consulting, Londonderry, VT http://www.rlpcon.com http://www.caip.rutgers.edu/~peskin From finlay.dobbie at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 12:28:06 2007 From: finlay.dobbie at gmail.com (Finlay Dobbie) Date: Tue Nov 6 12:28:12 2007 Subject: NetInfo Manager? In-Reply-To: <45188542-5915-44F2-A374-27FB4953D18F@rlpcon.com> References: <45188542-5915-44F2-A374-27FB4953D18F@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: On 11/6/07, Richard Peskin wrote: > It looks like "NetInfo Manager" is no longer a part of Leopard > (10.5). What now serves as the database to store things like user > home directories in Leopard (plain Leopard, not Leopard server). > thanks, A bunch of property lists managed directly by the DirectoryService daemon (which also subsumed the functionality of lookupd), located at /var/db/dslocal and /var/db/DirectoryService. The supported command-line interface is dscl, and there's no real GUI to speak of (although there's a new interface to "advanced" settings if you right-click on a user in the System Preferences pane). -- Finlay From nbfa at stanford.edu Tue Nov 6 12:43:59 2007 From: nbfa at stanford.edu (Noah Abrahamson) Date: Tue Nov 6 12:44:05 2007 Subject: NetInfo Manager? In-Reply-To: <45188542-5915-44F2-A374-27FB4953D18F@rlpcon.com> References: <45188542-5915-44F2-A374-27FB4953D18F@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: On Nov 6, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Richard Peskin wrote: > It looks like "NetInfo Manager" is no longer a part of Leopard > (10.5). What now serves as the database to store things like user > home directories in Leopard (plain Leopard, not Leopard server). > thanks, > --dick peskin You may wish to review the AFP548 article. Noah ------------------- Noah Abrahamson Stanford University From rpeskin at rlpcon.com Tue Nov 6 13:02:17 2007 From: rpeskin at rlpcon.com (Richard Peskin) Date: Tue Nov 6 13:02:29 2007 Subject: screen sharing problem in Leopard Message-ID: <6D94B6CD-694A-4E7F-9328-B2E13FC297F5@rlpcon.com> I have two platforms that are running 10.4.4 and are configured the identically for screen sharing. i.e. Apple Remote Desktop (Sharing Pref) is configured the same (except for different the different computer names and addresses). From a machine running Leopard, I can can screen share with one of these remote platforms but not the other. (All the machines are on the same LAN.) In Leopard's Finder, one remote shows a (Share Screen) button but the other doesn't. Any idea where I should look? Also, how do I remove unwanted "Shares" in Leopard? I have a non- existing PC showing up as a Share Point. thanks, --dick peskin ____________________________________ Richard L. Peskin, RLP Consulting, Londonderry, VT http://www.rlpcon.com http://www.caip.rutgers.edu/~peskin From kremels at kreme.com Tue Nov 6 16:48:29 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Tue Nov 6 16:48:36 2007 Subject: NetInfo Manager? In-Reply-To: <45188542-5915-44F2-A374-27FB4953D18F@rlpcon.com> References: <45188542-5915-44F2-A374-27FB4953D18F@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: <83C1419F-70A2-4187-B693-B2465C70DC5F@kreme.com> On 6-Nov-2007, at 13:20, Richard Peskin wrote: > It looks like "NetInfo Manager" is no longer a part of Leopard > (10.5). What now serves as the database to store things like user > home directories in Leopard (plain Leopard, not Leopard server). Directory Services talking to a sql database (not mysql, one of the others). there's a nice command-line tool that seems to work very well. man dscl (Directory Service Command Line) -- At 20:43 the dome of St. Elvis Cathedral shattered... and the Devil walked the earth again. He'd never really left. From hexstar at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 16:59:45 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (Hex Star) Date: Tue Nov 6 16:59:54 2007 Subject: NetInfo Manager? In-Reply-To: <83C1419F-70A2-4187-B693-B2465C70DC5F@kreme.com> References: <45188542-5915-44F2-A374-27FB4953D18F@rlpcon.com> <83C1419F-70A2-4187-B693-B2465C70DC5F@kreme.com> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711061659k3708228ap831c1d7c4640e4d6@mail.gmail.com> On 11/6/07, LuKreme wrote: > Directory Services talking to a sql database (not mysql, one of the > others). SQL Lite I believe From shoop at iwiring.net Tue Nov 6 20:34:13 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Tue Nov 6 20:34:25 2007 Subject: NetInfo Manager? In-Reply-To: <5dc6fd9e0711061659k3708228ap831c1d7c4640e4d6@mail.gmail.com> References: <45188542-5915-44F2-A374-27FB4953D18F@rlpcon.com> <83C1419F-70A2-4187-B693-B2465C70DC5F@kreme.com> <5dc6fd9e0711061659k3708228ap831c1d7c4640e4d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <824A6DE6-FE9E-4B9B-8D6A-7A5FCBD2D0B8@iwiring.net> On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Hex Star wrote: > On 11/6/07, LuKreme wrote: >> Directory Services talking to a sql database (not mysql, one of the >> others). > > > SQL Lite I believe IIRC it's a plist. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist iWiring / U.S. Technical Services shoop@iwiring.net AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response for urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From gregor.alessi at mac.com Wed Nov 7 00:41:04 2007 From: gregor.alessi at mac.com (Gregor Alessi) Date: Wed Nov 7 00:41:55 2007 Subject: Server Maintenance Program In-Reply-To: <92D388A0-2D7C-4D58-98D6-F2E0837DF39E@highdesertchurch.com> References: <92D388A0-2D7C-4D58-98D6-F2E0837DF39E@highdesertchurch.com> Message-ID: <4BD7FD7D-D0C0-47A2-9EDB-4BFFFB550D3D@mac.com> On 26.10.2007, at 23:28, Daniel Hazelbaker wrote: > Anybody know how fast Apple (generally) sends out the new Server > versions when you are enrolled in the server maintenance program? Arrived here (Switzerland) Friday last week - with DHL Express delivery, which made some executive and his secretary jump on me, because of something along the lines of "wasting money". :-) Something else: In one location I have two AMPs - but I always get four keys/DVDs. Nice. I told Apple about it, but they didn't want to hear. So, under these circumstances, I think it's safe to say I get a lot of value for our money. :-) Now I just have to find a non-production machine to become a not-so- early adopter. Maybe I could talk above mentioned executive into buying another PowerMac with the money "saved" from getting two licenses for "free"... Pedants work in mysterious ways. --greg From brett.dikeman at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 08:12:52 2007 From: brett.dikeman at gmail.com (Brett Dikeman) Date: Wed Nov 7 08:12:56 2007 Subject: intel xserve SATA/SAS drive carrier interchangeability? Message-ID: <9d9c4a330711070812s7405cc36hbf9f3e48f23c6986@mail.gmail.com> Greetings all, Does anyone know if intel xserve SATA carriers can be used for SAS drives? I was hoping someone had one of each they could eyeball, or knew for sure. Basically, I'm considering buying an Xserve with a pair of 80GB SATA drives and swapping 147GB SAS drives into the carriers. Brett From markus at ruggiero.ch Thu Nov 8 10:22:07 2007 From: markus at ruggiero.ch (Markus Ruggiero) Date: Thu Nov 8 10:22:54 2007 Subject: Apache refuses to start (due to Parallels?) and virtual hosts problem Message-ID: <1A38261C-B182-4414-BEAD-6B235E0CD7E6@ruggiero.ch> I have a weird problem with Apache2, virtual hosts, Leopard and Parallel (and maybe other things) Environment: Leopard, upgraded from Tiger with option "Archive and Install, transfer user and network settings" on MacBook Pro with 4G of RAM After reboot of Leopard I can do http://localhost and everything works. However the upgrade process did not reestablish the virtual host config I had on Tiger. OK, no problem, I added the hosts to /etc/ hosts and enabled virtual hosts in /etc/apache2/httpd.config and /etc/ apache2/extras/httpd-vhosts.config). Unfortunately none of my hosts are found. However I can prove that the config files are read because the first virtual host has a directory that lies outside of the default /Library/WebServer/Documents - and these files are being served. No matter what hostname I enter in Safari, it is always that first-in-the-file host that is serving. This is clearly an indication that Apache does not find a virtual host corresponding to the used host name. No problem, must be some typo so I started playing with the vhosts file and restarting Apache (both with the Sharing Prefs pane as well als from the commandline with apachectl). Now in the System.log I see weird entries for each restart that some Key to lanch demon is not known (see below). I had to interrupt my trying to do some "real" work. Therefore I booted up WindowsXP within Parallels (network set to direct connect mode to ethernet adaptor). Later I came back to Apache and all of a sudden Apache refused to start at all (again see copy from log further down). Shuting down Parallels does not help, only a reboot cleared things. Apache starts and restarts somewhat cleanly but again refuses to start after Parallels has run. Oh, and I still don't know why my virtual hosts don't work. Anyone knows what is going on here? How can I debug the Apache startup failure? What is launch demon complaining about? And how can I debug virtual hosts? Here is one set of log entries for an Apache startup. The only difference between a start and a failed start are the two lines at the end. Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: IOMemoryDescriptor: attempt to create 32b virtual in 64b task, use ::withAddressRange() Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: Backtrace 0x426b0b 0x4269fb 0x426446 0x6d4b2a 0x6d6ea1 0x6d75c3 0x6d8129 Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch(2.0.21)@0x6d1000->0x6f1fff Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: m7e0f6384m0ca6b462 -536870211 Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: m15b71329 -536870211 Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 com.apple.launchd[1] (org.apache.httpd[624]): Exited with exit code: 1 Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 com.apple.launchd[1] (org.apache.httpd): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds Thanks for any help ---markus--- Markus Ruggiero rucotec consulting and technologies email mailto:markus.ruggiero@rucotec.ch rucotec GmbH web http://www.rucotec.ch Steinentorstrasse 8 4051 Basel Mobile +41 (0)79 508 4701 Switzerland Phone/Fax +41 (0)61 271 4990 From shoop at iwiring.net Thu Nov 8 12:00:19 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 8 12:00:26 2007 Subject: Apache refuses to start (due to Parallels?) and virtual hosts problem In-Reply-To: <1A38261C-B182-4414-BEAD-6B235E0CD7E6@ruggiero.ch> References: <1A38261C-B182-4414-BEAD-6B235E0CD7E6@ruggiero.ch> Message-ID: <384F4DDF-D8FA-4003-B421-A2CFA15C27FD@iwiring.net> On Nov 8, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Markus Ruggiero wrote: > I have a weird problem with Apache2, virtual hosts, Leopard and > Parallel (and maybe other things) > > Environment: Leopard, upgraded from Tiger with option "Archive and > Install, transfer user and network settings" on MacBook Pro with 4G > of RAM > > After reboot of Leopard I can do http://localhost and everything > works. However the upgrade process did not reestablish the virtual > host config I had on Tiger. If you are hosting sites with OS X, not OS X Server, then it doesn't handle virtual hosts at all, just personal web hosting, so this is the expected behavior. > OK, no problem, I added the hosts to /etc/hosts They should be in DNS. > and enabled virtual hosts in /etc/apache2/httpd.config and /etc/ > apache2/extras/httpd-vhosts.config). Unfortunately none of my hosts > are found. Meaning? What does apachectl report? > However I can prove that the config files are read because the > first virtual host has a directory that lies outside of the > default /Library/WebServer/Documents - and these files are being > served. No matter what hostname I enter in Safari, it is always > that first-in-the-file host that is serving. Which indicates that there is a problem with your configuration. If Apache can not determine the correct virtual host it always defaults to the default host for that IP address or mapping that it can follow. > This is clearly an indication that Apache does not find a virtual > host corresponding to the used host name. No it is not. You should note that there are significant differences betweeen Apache 1.3 and Apache 2.x and that you should not exepct the config files from the former to work cleanly with the latter. > No problem, must be some typo so I started playing with the vhosts > file and restarting Apache (both with the Sharing Prefs pane as > well als from the commandline with apachectl). Now in the > System.log I see weird entries for each restart that some Key to > lanch demon is not known (see below). I had to interrupt my trying > to do some "real" work. Therefore I booted up WindowsXP within > Parallels (network set to direct connect mode to ethernet adaptor). > Later I came back to Apache and all of a sudden Apache refused to > start at all (again see copy from log further down). Shuting down > Parallels does not help, only a reboot cleared things. Apache > starts and restarts somewhat cleanly but again refuses to start > after Parallels has run. Oh, and I still don't know why my virtual > hosts don't work. > Anyone knows what is going on here? How can I debug the Apache > startup failure? What is launch demon complaining about? And how > can I debug virtual hosts? > > Here is one set of log entries for an Apache startup. The only > difference between a start and a failed start are the two lines at > the end. > > Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: IOMemoryDescriptor: attempt > to create 32b virtual in 64b task, use ::withAddressRange() > Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: Backtrace 0x426b0b 0x4269fb > 0x426446 0x6d4b2a 0x6d6ea1 0x6d75c3 0x6d8129 > Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: Kernel loadable modules in > backtrace (with dependencies): > Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch > (2.0.21)@0x6d1000->0x6f1fff > Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: m7e0f6384m0ca6b462 -536870211 > Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 kernel[0]: m15b71329 -536870211 > Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 com.apple.launchd[1] (org.apache.httpd > [624]): Exited with exit code: 1 > Nov 8 08:42:21 vmtellswin1 com.apple.launchd[1] > (org.apache.httpd): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds Apache is misconfigured and won't start. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist iWiring / U.S. Technical Services shoop@iwiring.net AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response for urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From kremels at kreme.com Thu Nov 8 12:22:12 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Thu Nov 8 12:22:15 2007 Subject: Apache refuses to start (due to Parallels?) and virtual hosts problem In-Reply-To: <1A38261C-B182-4414-BEAD-6B235E0CD7E6@ruggiero.ch> References: <1A38261C-B182-4414-BEAD-6B235E0CD7E6@ruggiero.ch> Message-ID: On 8-Nov-2007, at 11:22, Markus Ruggiero wrote: > Apache starts and restarts somewhat cleanly but again refuses to > start after Parallels has run. Oh, and I still don't know why my > virtual hosts don't work. Do you have apache set to grab all IPs (that is, Listen 80 instead of Listen 12.34.56.789:80)? Also, are you looking at /var/log/apache2/error_log ? -- "Ironically, they lost the gigahertz game," he said of Intel. "(The G5) is extremely faster than the Itanium II, hands down." - Srinidhi Varadarajan, Virginia Tech From hexstar at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 18:40:10 2007 From: hexstar at gmail.com (John Musbach) Date: Thu Nov 8 18:40:14 2007 Subject: Apache refuses to start (due to Parallels?) and virtual hosts problem In-Reply-To: <1A38261C-B182-4414-BEAD-6B235E0CD7E6@ruggiero.ch> References: <1A38261C-B182-4414-BEAD-6B235E0CD7E6@ruggiero.ch> Message-ID: <5dc6fd9e0711081840m57e9b1acs46d469cf2fc2ad14@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 8, 2007 10:22 AM, Markus Ruggiero wrote: > Anyone knows what is going on here? How can I debug the Apache startup > failure? What is launch demon complaining about? And how can I debug > virtual hosts? Perhaps it'd be worth considering trying to work with a cleanly compiled apache installation instead of the installation provided with Mac OS X -- Best Regards, John Musbach From jearle at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 01:28:07 2007 From: jearle at gmail.com (Jared Earle) Date: Fri Nov 9 01:28:11 2007 Subject: Apache refuses to start (due to Parallels?) and virtual hosts problem In-Reply-To: <384F4DDF-D8FA-4003-B421-A2CFA15C27FD@iwiring.net> References: <1A38261C-B182-4414-BEAD-6B235E0CD7E6@ruggiero.ch> <384F4DDF-D8FA-4003-B421-A2CFA15C27FD@iwiring.net> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd60711090128v1ca9fcat85bb52e489d811d2@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 8, 2007 8:00 PM, Dan Shoop wrote: > If you are hosting sites with OS X, not OS X Server, then it doesn't > handle virtual hosts at all, just personal web hosting, so this is > the expected behavior. Apart from the fact that it's *still* apache on Mac OS X Vanilla. I run a dozen virtual hosts on non-server installs. Virtual Hosts work as they would on a Linux or BSD install, as long as you're using httpd.conf like $DEITY intended. Just because OS X Server has a GUI, it doesn't mean OS X Vanilla doesn't have a full-blown Apache install under the hood. -- Jared Earle :: There is no SPORK jearle@gmail.com :: http://www.23x.net The Spodcast :: http://spodcast.org From kremels at kreme.com Fri Nov 9 08:27:41 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Nov 9 08:27:45 2007 Subject: Leopard's ls Message-ID: Ran across something interesting when doing an ls in the shell: 0 drwxrwxr-x@ 0 drwxrwxr-x@ 0 drwxrwxr-x 0 drwxrwxr-x 0 drwxrwxr-x+ From the man page: If the file or directory has extended attributes, the permissions field printed by the -l option is followed by a '@' character. Otherwise, if the file or directory has extended security information, the permissions field printed by the -l option is followed by a '+' character. so, what exactly do 'extended attributes' and 'extended security information' mean? Are we talking about ACLs? -- Everybody hates a tourist, especially one who thinks it's all such a laugh. Yeah, and the chipstains and grease will come out in the bath. You will never understand how it feels to live your life with no meaning or control, and with nowhere left to go. You are amazed that they exist, and they burn so bright whilst you can only wonder why. From justin at mac.com Fri Nov 9 08:59:16 2007 From: justin at mac.com (Justin C. Walker) Date: Fri Nov 9 08:59:55 2007 Subject: Leopard's ls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Nov 9, 2007, at 08:27 , LuKreme wrote: > Ran across something interesting when doing an ls in the shell: > > 0 drwxrwxr-x@ > 0 drwxrwxr-x@ > 0 drwxrwxr-x > 0 drwxrwxr-x > 0 drwxrwxr-x+ > > From the man page: > > If the file or directory has extended attributes, the permissions > field printed by the -l option is followed by a '@' character. > Otherwise, if the file or directory has extended security > information, the permissions field printed by the -l option is > followed by a '+' character. > > so, what exactly do 'extended attributes' and 'extended security > information' mean? Are we talking about ACLs? Try 'man GetFileInfo'; that may provide something useful. Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income -------- Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -------- From dez at mac.com Fri Nov 9 09:19:21 2007 From: dez at mac.com (Derek Chesterfield) Date: Fri Nov 9 09:19:31 2007 Subject: Leopard's ls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26D16A3E-2A42-4A26-8C9E-A5C96F4CC4D1@mac.com> On 9 Nov 2007, at 16:27, LuKreme wrote: > From the man page [of ls]: > > If the file or directory has extended attributes, the permissions > field printed by the -l option is followed by a '@' character. > Otherwise, if the file or directory has extended security > information, the permissions field printed by the -l option is > followed by a '+' character. > > so, what exactly do 'extended attributes' and 'extended security > information' mean? Are we talking about ACLs? Extended security information is indeed ACLs. You can view what ACLs a file has by doing 'ls -le'. You can also view and set ACLs in Finder's Get Info panel for the file. Extended attributes are arbitrary bits of data associated with a file, and are set by the application. You can see the attribute keys using 'ls -l@'. You can't see the values though; extended attributes are application-defined, so it is not usually useful to be able to read them! Finder sets some, which you will see with the com.apple.FinderInfo key. The number is the size of the attribute. Safari also sets some to keep track of files which were downloaded etc., e.g. com.apple.quarantine. From shoop at iwiring.net Fri Nov 9 14:48:00 2007 From: shoop at iwiring.net (Dan Shoop) Date: Fri Nov 9 14:48:18 2007 Subject: Apache refuses to start (due to Parallels?) and virtual hosts problem In-Reply-To: <5bbc0cd60711090128v1ca9fcat85bb52e489d811d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1A38261C-B182-4414-BEAD-6B235E0CD7E6@ruggiero.ch> <384F4DDF-D8FA-4003-B421-A2CFA15C27FD@iwiring.net> <5bbc0cd60711090128v1ca9fcat85bb52e489d811d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7A514453-EEEB-4B76-9033-6241CA22D14B@iwiring.net> On Nov 9, 2007, at 4:28 AM, Jared Earle wrote: > On Nov 8, 2007 8:00 PM, Dan Shoop wrote: >> If you are hosting sites with OS X, not OS X Server, then it doesn't >> handle virtual hosts at all, just personal web hosting, so this is >> the expected behavior. > > Apart from the fact that it's *still* apache on Mac OS X Vanilla. I > run a dozen virtual hosts on non-server installs. Virtual Hosts work > as they would on a Linux or BSD install, as long as you're using > httpd.conf like $DEITY intended. > > Just because OS X Server has a GUI, it doesn't mean OS X Vanilla > doesn't have a full-blown Apache install under the hood. > I was referring to the direct support for them in OS X Leopard Server, where it also upgrades the conf for Apache 2, unlike OS X. Personal Web Sharing, while implemented by Apache, doesn't /normally/ handle virtual hosts, you'd have to edit http.conf like you refer. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop Computer Scientist iWiring / U.S. Technical Services shoop@iwiring.net AOL IM .................... iWiring Nextel .................... 1-714-363-1174 Operations TOC (24/7) ..... 1-866-901-USTS USTS Offices .............. 1-714-374-6300 For immediate response for urgent matters please speak to the Duty Officer at the USTS Tactical Operations Center (above) who can reach me by radio. From kremels at kreme.com Fri Nov 9 14:50:21 2007 From: kremels at kreme.com (LuKreme) Date: Fri Nov 9 14:50:28 2007 Subject: Leopard's ls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205C3AAB-C0EE-4241-B0AF-9AD84CAE48BD@kreme.com> On 9-Nov-2007, at 09:59, Justin C. Walker wrote: > On Nov 9, 2007, at 08:27 , LuKreme wrote: >> Ran across something interesting when doing an ls in the shell: >> >> 0 drwxrwxr-x@ >> 0 drwxrwxr-x@ >> 0 drwxrwxr-x >> 0 drwxrwxr-x >> 0 drwxrwxr-x+ >> >> From the man page: >> >> If the file or directory has extended attributes, the permissions >> field printed by the -l option is followed by a '@' character. >> Otherwise, if the file or directory has extended security >> information, the permissions field printed by the -l option is >> followed by a '+' character. >> >> so, what exactly do 'extended attributes' and 'extended security >> information' mean? Are we talking about ACLs? > > Try 'man GetFileInfo'; that may provide something useful. Those are file attributes that every file has. The ls man page refers to EXTENDED attributes. > -- Rent a flat above a shop, cut your hair and get a job, smoke some fags and play some pool, pretend you never went to school and still you'll never get it right cuz when you're lay'n in bed at night watching the roaches climb the wall if you called your dad he could stop it all. From bsilver at chrononomicon.com Thu Nov 15 05:36:35 2007 From: bsilver at chrononomicon.com (Bart Silverstrim) Date: Thu Nov 15 05:36:35 2007 Subject: Update problem Message-ID: <473C4B63.6090408@chrononomicon.com> I have a black Macbook and just applied the latest OS X update. On reboot, it sites at the grey apple logo with the spinning busy icon at the bottom. Can someone looks at this info and offer advice on how to get it running again? I don't believe I have the CD handy for a repair. The SSH service fires up and I can log in from another machine using SSH fine. Using that, I see: ************** > Nov 15 08:27:04 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:27:05 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:27:06 Machinename launchd: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/console, sleeping > Nov 15 08:27:36 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:27:38 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:27:39 Machinename launchd: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/console, sleeping > Nov 15 08:28:09 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:28:10 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:28:11 Machinename launchd: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/console, sleeping > Nov 15 08:28:13 Machinename sudo: myusername : TTY=ttyp0 ; PWD=/Users/myusername ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/dmesg > Nov 15 08:28:41 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:28:43 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:28:44 Machinename launchd: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/console, sleeping > Nov 15 08:29:14 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:29:15 Machinename /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started > Nov 15 08:29:16 Machinename launchd: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/console, sleeping ************ Install log shows: ************* Nov 15 08:00:56 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Final Cut Pro Update Nov 15 08:01:01 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Aperture Update Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Remote Desktop Client Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Remote Desktop Admin Update Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iPhoto Update Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Keynote Update Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: GarageBand Jam Pack Update Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMovie Update Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iPhoto Update Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iDVD Update Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Final Cut Express Nov 15 08:01:02 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Logic Express Update Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Logic Pro Update Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Motion 1.0.1 Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Motion Content Extras Update Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: GarageBand Update Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iDVD Update Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMovie HD Update Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Final Cut Pro HD Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: DVD Studio Pro Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Shake Nov 15 08:01:03 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMovie Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Compressor 1.2.1 Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Power Mac G5 Uniprocessor Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Xserve G5 Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Power Mac G5 (June 2004) Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: LiveType 1.2 for Final Cut Pro HD Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Soundtrack 1.2 Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Apple Intermediate Codec Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: GarageBand Jam Pack 4 Update Nov 15 08:01:04 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Shake Qmaster Services Tools Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Shake Qmaster Applications Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: WebObjects Developer Update Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: SuperDrive Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: QuickTime Broadcaster Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: DVD Player Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: LiveType Update Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Xserve RAID Driver Update Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Compressor Update Nov 15 08:01:05 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Apple Qmaster Update Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMac G5 Sleep Light Update Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Desktop Video Out Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: DVD Playback Update Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Final Cut Express Update Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: WebObjects 5.3.1 Server Update Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: DVD Studio Pro Update Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:06 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Pro Applications Update 2005-02 Nov 15 08:01:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iTunesPhoneDriver Nov 15 08:01:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Cinema Tools Update Nov 15 08:01:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Motion 2.0.1 Update Nov 15 08:01:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Final Cut Pro Update Nov 15 08:01:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Soundtrack Pro Update Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Power Mac G5 (Late 2004) System Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: JavaScript error "Undefined value" while running "__choice_su_visible" Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: __choice_su_visible returned error: Undefined value Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Pro Applications Update 2005-01 Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: JS: 10.4.10 Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: JS: 10.4.10 Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMovie HD Combo Update Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMovie HD Update Nov 15 08:01:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Motion Update Nov 15 08:01:09 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMac SMC Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:09 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac mini SMC Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:09 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook Pro SMC Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:09 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:09 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:09 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Pro Applications Update 2006-01 Nov 15 08:01:09 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Soundtrack Pro Presets Update Nov 15 08:01:09 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:09 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iWeb Update Nov 15 08:01:10 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: SuperDrive Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:10 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Cinema Tools Update Nov 15 08:01:10 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook Pro SMC Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:10 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iWeb Update Nov 15 08:01:10 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: DVD Studio Pro Update Nov 15 08:01:10 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Server Admin Tools Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Compressor Update Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Qmaster Update Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Pro Applications Update 2006-02 Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: JS: 10.4.10 Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: JS: 10.4.10 Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Final Cut Express HD Update Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:11 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:12 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMovie HD Update Nov 15 08:01:12 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:12 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:12 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac mini EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:12 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:12 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMac EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:12 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: WWAN Support Update Nov 15 08:01:12 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:12 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook SMC Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:13 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac Pro EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:13 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: RAID Admin Nov 15 08:01:13 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: X11 Update 2006 Nov 15 08:01:13 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: GeForce 7300 GT Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:13 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Remote Desktop Client Nov 15 08:01:13 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Remote Desktop Admin Update Nov 15 08:01:13 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iTunes Producer Nov 15 08:01:13 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:14 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:14 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: AirPort Extreme Update 2007-002 Nov 15 08:01:14 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:14 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: WebObjects DST Update Nov 15 08:01:14 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Backup Nov 15 08:01:14 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Battery Update Nov 15 08:01:14 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: AirPort Extreme Update 2007-003 Nov 15 08:01:14 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iDVD Extra Content Nov 15 08:01:14 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: GarageBand ?08 Instruments and Apple Loops Nov 15 08:01:15 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: LOM Update Nov 15 08:01:15 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: QuickTime Nov 15 08:01:15 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Pro Applications Update 2007-01 Nov 15 08:01:15 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Front Row Update Nov 15 08:01:15 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac Pro SMC Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:16 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:16 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Hard Drive Update Nov 15 08:01:16 Machinename Software Update[751]: JS: Firmware is up to date. Nov 15 08:01:16 Machinename Software Update[751]: JS: Firmware is up to date. Nov 15 08:01:16 Machinename Software Update[751]: JS: Firmware is up to date. Nov 15 08:01:16 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Final Cut Pro Update Nov 15 08:01:16 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Battery Update Nov 15 08:01:16 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Compressor 3.0.2 Update Nov 15 08:01:16 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Motion Update Nov 15 08:01:17 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Pro Applications Update 2007-02 Nov 15 08:01:17 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: AirPort Base Station Update 2007-002 Nov 15 08:01:17 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: AirPort Base Station Update 2007-002 Nov 15 08:01:17 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: DVD Studio Pro Update Nov 15 08:01:17 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:17 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:17 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:17 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:17 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Color Update Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Cinema Tools Update Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: AirPort Extreme Update 2007-004 Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Soundtrack Pro Update Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Pro Application Support Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iDVD Update Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Server Admin Tools Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: JavaScript error "Undefined value" while running "__choice_su_visible" Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: __choice_su_visible returned error: Undefined value Nov 15 08:01:18 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:19 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:19 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MainStage Update Nov 15 08:01:19 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iPhoto Update Nov 15 08:01:19 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Compatibility Update for QuickTime 7.2 Nov 15 08:01:19 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Compressor Update Nov 15 08:01:19 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook MacBook Pro Software Update Nov 15 08:01:19 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iTunes Nov 15 08:01:19 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMac EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:20 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:20 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:20 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Xserve EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:20 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: QuickTime Nov 15 08:01:20 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac Pro EFI Firmware Update Nov 15 08:01:20 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:20 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iPhoto Update Nov 15 08:01:20 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MANUAL_TITLE Nov 15 08:01:20 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iLife Support Nov 15 08:01:21 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: MacBook Pro Software Update Nov 15 08:01:21 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: iMac Software Update Nov 15 08:01:21 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Security Update 2007-007 (Intel) Nov 15 08:01:21 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Security Update 2007-007 (Universal) Nov 15 08:01:21 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Security Update 2007-007 (PowerPC) Nov 15 08:01:21 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Security Update 2007-007 (PowerPC) Nov 15 08:01:21 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac OS X Server Update (PowerPC) Nov 15 08:01:21 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac OS X Server Update Combined (PowerPC) Nov 15 08:01:21 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Security Update (QuickTime 7.1.6) Nov 15 08:01:22 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac OS X Update (PowerPC) Nov 15 08:01:22 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac OS X Update Combined (PowerPC) Nov 15 08:01:22 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac OS X Server Update (Universal) Nov 15 08:01:22 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac OS X Server Update Combined (Universal) Nov 15 08:01:22 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac OS X Update (Intel) Nov 15 08:01:22 Machinename Software Update[751]: === Starting check on volume / Nov 15 08:01:42 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac OS X Update Combined (Intel) Nov 15 08:02:01 Machinename : admin auth received to install Nov 15 08:02:55 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Mac OS X Update (Intel) Nov 15 08:02:55 Machinename Software Update[751]: Distribution: Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Relocatable software from package, MacOSXUpd10.4.11IntelPatch.pkg:com.apple.pkg.MacOSXUpd10.4.11Intel.224.6: Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: WebStart installed to /Applications/Utilities/Java/Java Web Start.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: SystemProfiler installed to /Applications/Utilities/System Profiler.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: isync installed to /Applications/iSync.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: VoiceOverUtility installed to /Applications/Utilities/VoiceOver Utility.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: print.PrintCenter installed to /Applications/Utilities/Printer Setup Utility.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: ActivityMonitor installed to /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Sherlock installed to /Applications/Sherlock.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Dictionary installed to /Applications/Dictionary.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: airport.assistant installed to /Applications/Utilities/AirPort Setup Assistant.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: dashboardlauncher installed to /Applications/Dashboard.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: airport.adminutility installed to /Applications/Utilities/AirPort Admin Utility.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: odbcadministrator installed to /Applications/Utilities/ODBC Administrator.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Safari installed to /Applications/Safari.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: systempreferences installed to /Applications/System Preferences.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: calculator installed to /Applications/Calculator.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: ColorSyncUtility installed to /Applications/Utilities/ColorSync Utility.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: keychainaccess installed to /Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: DirectoryService.Config installed to /Applications/Utilities/Directory Access.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: DVDPlayer installed to /Applications/DVD Player.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: mail installed to /Applications/Mail.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: ScriptEditor2 installed to /Applications/AppleScript/Script Editor.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: BluetoothFileExchange installed to /Applications/Utilities/Bluetooth File Exchange.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: installer installed to /Applications/Utilities/Installer.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: DiskUtility installed to /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: AddressBook installed to /Applications/Address Book.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: NetInfoManager installed to /Applications/Utilities/NetInfo Manager.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Preview installed to /Applications/Preview.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: quicktimeplayer installed to /Applications/QuickTime Player.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Stickies installed to /Applications/Stickies.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: iCal installed to /Applications/iCal.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: java.PluginSettings.142 installed to /Applications/Utilities/Java/Java 1.4.2 Plugin Settings.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: FontBook installed to /Applications/Font Book.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: JavaCacheViewer installed to /Applications/Utilities/Java/J2SE 5.0/Java Cache Viewer.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Terminal installed to /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Console installed to /Applications/Utilities/Console.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: JavaPreferences installed to /Applications/Utilities/Java/J2SE 5.0/Java Preferences.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Automator installed to /Applications/Automator.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: NetworkUtility installed to /Applications/Utilities/Network Utility.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: ImageCaptureApp installed to /Applications/Image Capture.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: internetconnect installed to /Applications/Internet Connect.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: print.PrintCenter2 installed to /Applications/Utilities/Print Center.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: FirmwarePasswordUtility installed to /Applications/Utilities/Print Center.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: iChat installed to /Applications/iChat.app Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Starting installation: Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Resetting Rosetta cache Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Preparing volume "Macintosh HD" for installation Nov 15 08:04:07 Machinename Software Update[751]: Configuring volume "Macintosh HD" Nov 15 08:04:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Preparing local booted disk Nov 15 08:04:08 Machinename Software Update[751]: Create temporary directory "/private/tmp/MacOSXUpd10.4.11IntelPatch.pkg.7517LNE2r" Nov