From ahoesch at smartsoft.de Tue Apr 1 01:29:02 2003 From: ahoesch at smartsoft.de (Andreas Hoeschler) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Downloading update packages (Java) for MacOSX 10.1.x Message-ID: <54EB5030-6424-11D7-BC16-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> Hi all, we have a customer with a bunch of MacOSX 10.1.5 machines. We would like to run ThinkFree Office and therefore need a Java Update. This update seems to be available via "MacOSX Update" but this package is 20 MBytes in size and needs to be installed on more then 10 machines (64 kBit line). Can this be downloaded somehow as a package and then installed offline on each machine? I already googled for a Java update package but all I found was one requiring Jaguar which they don't have and won't have so soon. Thanks, Andreas From jonas at zeus.ugent.be Tue Apr 1 01:36:19 2003 From: jonas at zeus.ugent.be (Jonas Maebe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Downloading update packages (Java) for MacOSX 10.1.x In-Reply-To: <54EB5030-6424-11D7-BC16-000393CA0072@smartsoft.de> Message-ID: <3D76999C-6425-11D7-AE53-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> On dinsdag, apr 1, 2003, at 11:28 Europe/Brussels, Andreas Hoeschler wrote: > we have a customer with a bunch of MacOSX 10.1.5 machines. We would > like to run ThinkFree Office and therefore need a Java Update. This > update seems to be available via "MacOSX Update" but this package is > 20 MBytes in size and needs to be installed on more then 10 machines > (64 kBit line). Can this be downloaded somehow as a package and then > installed offline on each machine? In Software Update, select "Download Checked Items to Desktop" from the Update menu. Jonas From Neil.Laubenthal at osd.mil Tue Apr 1 04:47:01 2003 From: Neil.Laubenthal at osd.mil (Laubenthal, Neil, CTR, OSD-C3I) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Downloading update packages (Java) for MacOSX 10.1.x (U) Message-ID: UNCLASSIFIED Sure . . . open up software update, select the Java update and in the File Menu select download to desktop . . .then move to network or CD for the other machines. Neil D. Laubenthal, Senior Network Security Administrator RBIS, Ltd C3I Server Team > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Hoeschler [mailto:ahoesch@smartsoft.de] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:29 AM > To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > Subject: Downloading update packages (Java) for MacOSX 10.1.x > > > Hi all, > > we have a customer with a bunch of MacOSX 10.1.5 machines. We would > like to run ThinkFree Office and therefore need a Java Update. This > update seems to be available via "MacOSX Update" but this > package is 20 > MBytes in size and needs to be installed on more then 10 machines (64 > kBit line). Can this be downloaded somehow as a package and then > installed offline on each machine? > > I already googled for a Java update package but all I found was one > requiring Jaguar which they don't have and won't have so soon. > > Thanks, > > Andreas > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From david at idiomatrix.com Tue Apr 1 05:38:01 2003 From: david at idiomatrix.com (David Herren) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: mysql questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <14268038-6447-11D7-871B-003065BABD8C@idiomatrix.com> Thanks again... actually I have long used CocoaMySQL for some things. The problem with it is that I can't set the encoding of the input data and ALL my data needs to be in UTF-8 (it's all foreign language data). The author of CocoaMySQL is investigating adding the capability of setting the encoding. Of course for this purpose the mysql database and user table don't require UTF-8. re: reseting the phpMyAdmin, that's already done, but still no progress on restoring the root user... On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 01:29 AM, Charlie Garrison wrote: > You could try changing the login details in your phpMyAdmin config > file to use > your details. That would give you temporary access to that interface. > > Also you might want to try one of the many GUI clients. I like > CocoaMySQL > which you can get from VersionTracker. That could possibly make it > easier to > see/fix the errant record. /david -- david herren - shoreham, vt us na terra solsys orionarm Don't blame me. I didn't vote for the inarticulate, short-sighted fool. Funny, neither did the majority of the US population who cast votes... Yo, Shrub. No war! From osten2 at itab.com Tue Apr 1 09:56:02 2003 From: osten2 at itab.com (OSX) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: I always give up when make errors out In-Reply-To: <20030401005837.GP3964@localhost> Message-ID: PHP 4.3.1 OS X 10.2.4 ./configure' '--with-ldap' '--with-xml' '--enable-shared' '--enable-versioning' '--enable-trans-id' '--enable-track-vars' '--enable-ftp' '--with-mysql' '--with-pdflib=/usr/local' '--with-zlib-dir=/usr/local' '--with-png-dir=/usr/local' '--with-jpeg-dir=/usr/local' '--with-gd=/usr/local' '--with-tiff-dir=/usr/local' '--with-apxs=/usr/sbin/apxs' '--enable-openbase_module' '--with-curl=/usr/local' '--with-pspell=/usr/local/pspell' '--enable-exif' '--enable-wddx' '--enable-mbstring' '--with-mcrypt=/usr/local' '--with-bcmath' '--enable-sockets' I realize this is an ambitious configure string to start out with but it is the same as the PHP 4.2.3 running on the machine now. The PHP 4.2.3 running now installed from a package from Tenon (www.tenon.com). They got this configuration to compile and run on any Mac. > On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 02:19:29PM -0800, OSX wrote: > : > : If I want to become a better system admin I need to know what to do when I > : get these error messages from make other than just give up. > : > : /Users/samsmith/Desktop/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:1013: invalid use of > : incomplete typedef `zend_executor_globals' > : make: *** [ext/zlib/zlib.lo] Error 1 > : > : Is it possible to learn what to do next without a Berkeley computer > : science degree? > > What "configure" options did you use? > From janos.lobb at yale.edu Tue Apr 1 10:14:01 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: inverse video with 256 color after login Message-ID: <045DA066-646E-11D7-95D2-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> On a 10.2 machine when my younger son logged in, after login the screen turned to inverse video and to 256 colour. /Probably from one of his classic games he still have/. To fix it I trashed many files from his preferences folder - because I just did not have time to troubleshoot one by one -, but it still irks my curiosity which particular file could have been the culprit. Thanks, J?nos ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From jared at 23x.net Tue Apr 1 10:43:01 2003 From: jared at 23x.net (Jared ''Danger'' Earle) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: I always give up when make errors out In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 07:57 pm, OSX wrote: > I realize this is an ambitious configure string to start out with but > it is > the same as the PHP 4.2.3 running on the machine now. The PHP 4.2.3 > running > now installed from a package from Tenon (www.tenon.com). They got this > configuration to compile and run on any Mac. Have you looked here? http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/php/ -- Jared Earle, Nightfall Games, jared@23x.net - http://www.23x.net "Just because the SPORK's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda." From aw_kohr at fccc.edu Tue Apr 1 11:21:04 2003 From: aw_kohr at fccc.edu (Alexander W. Kohr) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: inverse video with 256 color after login In-Reply-To: <045DA066-646E-11D7-95D2-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> Message-ID: <0980E9DF-6477-11D7-9A63-003065ED5A46@fccc.edu> your son is probably pushing the key combinations of command-option-control-8 simultaneously without having to delete the file you should be able to just push that key combination. If you prefer to use the gui Go to system preferences Universal Access Seeing. Click on switch to black on white. If you want to use this an april fools joke to an unsuspecting user press the key combination and then going into displays and set the color to thousands or millions. It inverts the color scheme . If you do the key combination twice it takes it away. alex On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 01:16 PM, J?nos L?bb wrote: > On a 10.2 machine when my younger son logged in, after login the > screen turned to inverse video and to 256 colour. /Probably from one > of his classic games he still have/. To fix it I trashed many files > from his preferences folder - because I just did not have time to > troubleshoot one by one -, but it still irks my curiosity which > particular file could have been the culprit. > > Thanks, > J?nos > ---------------------------------------------- > Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a > corpse. > (S. Lem: His Master Voice) > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From vought at mac.com Tue Apr 1 11:59:01 2003 From: vought at mac.com (Doug Broussard) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Postscript printing - black boxes Message-ID: <806092.1049227126825.JavaMail.vought@mac.com> Hello, all: Two OS X users printing through a shared printer hosted on 10.2 Server are getting black boxes in text regions of prints made to a GCC Elite 1212 printer. These areas print as though they were filled with black; obviously this makes it tough for anyone to read the text on the prints! This happens when printing directly to the printer as well. I've seen this problem on other PostScript Level 2 printers in other environments. Usually the affected application is Mail, but we've seen this happen with prints from FileMaker Pro, too. Since these are the primary applications for these users, I suspect it's a systemwide problem and we just haven't seen it in other apps because they're so seldom used. The problem only happens with monochrome PostScript Level 2 printers, and I've personally seen it manifested in each major version of OS X. Printing to our Epson 9600 or QMS 3100 Color Laser is always successful. I searched Apple's site up and down and found nothing about this problem; has anyone else experienced black regions when printing to monochrome PostScript printers? If so, were you successful in resolving it, and how? Thanks for any insight. -Doug Broussard Workshop Coordinator Photoclassroom/West Coast Imaging http://www.photoclassroom.com From schreian at bc.edu Tue Apr 1 12:25:03 2003 From: schreian at bc.edu (Tony Schreiner) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: mysql questions In-Reply-To: <200304012001.h31K1GL00864@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: If you are willing to pay $15/month, safari.oreilly.com gives you online access to up to 10 books at a time. I'm finding it worthwhile. Tony On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:01 PM, macosx-admin-request@omnigroup.com wrote: > Message: 17 > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:28:33 -0500 > Subject: Re: mysql questions > Cc: xadmin > To: Lou Moran > From: David Herren > > I've got the O'Reilly "Managing and Using MySQL and it has been of no > help whatsoever. I've digested a great deal of the online documentation > as well. How much better is the DuBois book? > > (and speaking of running to a bookstore--I live in very rural Vermont. > The nearest bookstore with the slimmest hope of carrying such a book is > over two hours away...) > > > On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 02:33 PM, Lou Moran wrote: > >> Although your sig file offends me to the core, your plea for help >> offends me more. >> >> Run, don't walk, run to your book seller and purchase: >> >> MySQL >> New Riders >> Paul DuBois > > /david From rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu Tue Apr 1 12:42:03 2003 From: rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu (Ross Bogue) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: inverse video with 256 color after login In-Reply-To: <0980E9DF-6477-11D7-9A63-003065ED5A46@fccc.edu> References: <0980E9DF-6477-11D7-9A63-003065ED5A46@fccc.edu> Message-ID: At 2:20 PM -0500 4/1/03, Alexander W. Kohr wrote: >your son is probably pushing the key combinations of >command-option-control-8 simultaneously >without having to delete the file you should be able to just push >that key combination. If you prefer to use the gui Go to system >preferences Universal Access Seeing. Click on switch to black on >white. Cute. Why is the keyboard shortcut enabled even though the checkbox for "Allow Universal Access Shortcuts" is clearly not checked? This on OSX 10.2.4. Ross -- Dr. Ross Bogue Physics Department Illinois State University From kfurino at iasadvance.com Tue Apr 1 15:09:01 2003 From: kfurino at iasadvance.com (Keith Furino) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: (Print server?) Printing problems Message-ID: <000001c2f8a3$b5a23760$0901a8c0@350z> My network is virtually all PCs with the exception of a renegade PowerBook G4 (mine) and our web server (a PowerMac G4). In a nutshell, I'm having great difficulty getting the Macs to print to printers connected to a LinkSys EPSX3 3-port print server. The printers in question are a Lexmark Optra S 1620 and an HP4500 Color LaserJet. The LinkSys's IP address is 192.168.1.12. The printers are on ports 9100 and 9102. Printing a simple document from an application like TextEdit or Word works fine. Printing complicated graphics or a web page from Safari to the HP causes the printer bomb. The Lexmark will eventually print, but takes over 20 minutes to print a single page. I added each printer first via Print Center as an AppSocket/HP JetDirect device specifying the IP address and port number on the Device URI line. When that generated the results I mentioned previously, I created a printer share from a Windows box and tried getting the PowerBook to print to that share via Dave CIFS. Same results. Updated printer drivers from HP, Lexmark, and the Ghostscript/GIMP Print combo didn't appear to help. Any suggestions on what I can try next (or what I'm doing wrong) would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Keith From airdrummer at wheel.org Tue Apr 1 17:38:01 2003 From: airdrummer at wheel.org (tom wible) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: modem disconnecting hang In-Reply-To: <000001c2f8a3$b5a23760$0901a8c0@350z> References: <000001c2f8a3$b5a23760$0901a8c0@350z> Message-ID: <3E8A3ED6.4050805@wheel.org> i've just gotten hit with the m.d.hang: after some period my dial-up isp goes away but ppp doesn't notice, so i manually disconnect, but the modem menubar continually crawls "disconnecting..." the modem never recovers. /tmp/ppp.log shows: Tue Apr 1 18:10:48 2003 : Terminating on signal 15. Tue Apr 1 18:10:55 2003 : Connection terminated. Tue Apr 1 18:10:55 2003 : Connect time 40.3 minutes. Tue Apr 1 18:10:55 2003 : Sent 2198461 bytes, received 2295382 bytes. Tue Apr 1 18:11:29 2003 : disconnect script failed killing pppd doesn't help, logout/in doesn't help, sleep doesn't help, i have to reboot to dial out again:-( so wtf is going on??? what do i have to kill to recover the modem? From shoop at iWiring.Net Tue Apr 1 18:06:30 2003 From: shoop at iWiring.Net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: mysql questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 9:28 PM -0500 3/31/03, David Herren wrote: >I've got the O'Reilly "Managing and Using MySQL and it has been of >no help whatsoever. Then you indeed have a problem, as the O'Reilly book is straight forward enough, and should consider hiring someone capable of assisting you and not offended by your .sig -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop shoop@iwiring.net Consulting Internet Architect shoop@mac.com pgp key fingerprint: FAC0 9434 B5A5 24A8 D0AF 12B1 7840 3BE7 3736 DE0B 'In Rahima Kuta [Iraq], a dusty collection of houses, the locals were already celebrating the imminent fall of Saddam Hussein. Fuwad, 32, said: "I have already killed two sheep to celebrate. When he is dead I will kill the five I have left." ' From individual at mi.cl Tue Apr 1 18:33:03 2003 From: individual at mi.cl (individual) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Net Monitor went commercial Message-ID: <44A6C536-6483-11D7-B9CB-003065DCDA98@mi.cl> Hi. Apologies for cross-posting. Net Monitor, a program to graph network throughput in the menubar, has gone commercial. Anyone have any favourites that I should look out for on versiontracker? I've tried a few, but haven't found anything to replace the aforementioned product. Paul From abridge at mac.com Tue Apr 1 19:21:02 2003 From: abridge at mac.com (Adam Bridge) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Net Monitor went commercial In-Reply-To: <44A6C536-6483-11D7-B9CB-003065DCDA98@mi.cl> Message-ID: On 4/1/03 individual wrote: > >Anyone have any favourites that I should look out for on >versiontracker? I've tried a few, but haven't found anything to replace >the aforementioned product. > Well you COULD pay for it - it won't break you - and it's a pretty darn good product. Adam Bridge From individual at mi.cl Tue Apr 1 22:29:01 2003 From: individual at mi.cl (individual) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Net Monitor went commercial [OT] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <46D40137-64D4-11D7-B7D7-003065DCDA98@mi.cl> On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 11:20 PM, Adam Bridge wrote: > On 4/1/03 individual wrote: > >> >> Anyone have any favourites that I should look out for on >> versiontracker? I've tried a few, but haven't found anything to >> replace >> the aforementioned product. >> > > Well you COULD pay for it - it won't break you - and it's a pretty > darn good > product. > No. I don't use my family's credit card for things like that. It is also a matter of principle: The beta expired and will not function at all, therefore shutting out every single Net Monitor user unless they pay. I consider this "get them addicted" modus operandi to be highly distasteful, and I will show my disapproval by moving my verbal encouragement elsewhere: to an author that has made a program that lacks a few of the features of Net Monitor, but that otherwise does exactly the same thing, while being free and open source under the GNU GPL: MenuMeter. Paul From gregory.bernard at todoo.biz Wed Apr 2 01:17:01 2003 From: gregory.bernard at todoo.biz (Gregory Bernard) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Compiling proftpd on OS X server ! + info on xinetd needed Message-ID: Dear user, I am trying to update my proftpd server (running proftpd 1.2.4) to 1.2.8 (latest version) on OS X server and am having a hard time compiling it. Problem with a server running OSXS 10.1.5 > checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 > checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 > checking target system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 > checking for gcc... no > checking for cc... cc > checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot > create executables > See `config.log' for more details. Any clue will be welcome. I do not exactly figure out what are the issue regarding xinetd which I have been reading about here and there... How does it relates to inetd ? How does the system make use of these files ? Thanks. ________________________________________________ ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? Gr?gory Bernard 21, rue JJ Rousseau Directeur 75001 Paris France www.ToDoo.biz tel : +(33) 1 40 26 43 14 ________________________________________________ ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD From fleep at accesstech.com Wed Apr 2 01:50:02 2003 From: fleep at accesstech.com (fleep@accesstech.com) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 14:47 -0500 03.03.29, Riccardo Perotti wrote: >I have an empty folder "BackUp" in my Trash that won't get deleted because >"it is in use", according to the finder. > >I went to the terminal to try to find out what was going on and look what I >got (the original folder was in another partition, so I found it going >through that partitions ".Trashes" dir): > >[elfsystems:.Trashes/501/BackUps] perotti% ls -al >total 0 >drwxrwxrwx 3 perotti unknown 102 Mar 29 13:54 . >drwx------ 3 perotti unknown 102 Mar 29 14:29 .. >drwx------ 3 perotti unknown 102 Mar 29 14:29 .. Boot into OS 9 - change the name of the file to normal text and then you can delete it. If its in an invisible folder use ResEdit to make it visible. Had the same problem with a folder named '.' and this was the quickest way to fix it. phillip... From airdrummer at wheel.org Wed Apr 2 05:04:01 2003 From: airdrummer at wheel.org (tom wible) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: modem disconnecting hang References: <000001c2f8a3$b5a23760$0901a8c0@350z> <3E8A3ED6.4050805@wheel.org> Message-ID: <3E8ADFDC.E350DF68@wheel.org> i've found a work-around: when the isp goes away (but ppp hasn't noticed), open internet connect, turn OFF display status in menubar, disconnect, then quit (or force-quit). i got a crash, but i got the modem back:-) From list-omnigroup at fsck.net Wed Apr 2 08:36:01 2003 From: list-omnigroup at fsck.net (Eugene Lee) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: I always give up when make errors out In-Reply-To: References: <20030401005837.GP3964@localhost> Message-ID: <20030402071122.GA532@localhost> On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:57:59AM -0800, OSX wrote: : Eugene Lee asked: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Please configure your mail client to include the attribute line, thanks. : > On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 02:19:29PM -0800, OSX wrote: : > : : > : /Users/samsmith/Desktop/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:1013: invalid use of : > : incomplete typedef `zend_executor_globals' : > : make: *** [ext/zlib/zlib.lo] Error 1 : > : > What "configure" options did you use? : : PHP 4.3.1 : OS X 10.2.4 : : ./configure' '--with-ldap' '--with-xml' '--enable-shared' : '--enable-versioning' '--enable-trans-id' '--enable-track-vars' : '--enable-ftp' '--with-mysql' '--with-pdflib=/usr/local' : '--with-zlib-dir=/usr/local' '--with-png-dir=/usr/local' : '--with-jpeg-dir=/usr/local' '--with-gd=/usr/local' : '--with-tiff-dir=/usr/local' '--with-apxs=/usr/sbin/apxs' : '--enable-openbase_module' '--with-curl=/usr/local' : '--with-pspell=/usr/local/pspell' '--enable-exif' '--enable-wddx' : '--enable-mbstring' '--with-mcrypt=/usr/local' '--with-bcmath' : '--enable-sockets' Do a "make distclean", then do "./configure" all by itself. Does the make error out on the same line, or somewhere else, or at all? -- Eugene Lee "ya hya chouhada" From peterf at semiotx.com Wed Apr 2 08:48:02 2003 From: peterf at semiotx.com (Peter Fraterdeus) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Panic Attacks Message-ID: I'm getting kernel panics a couple of times a week. How to decode the panic.log? Any pointers, URLs? I have uninstalled any extensions that I had in at the time these started. Is this a bad RAM situation? Thanks for thoughts! Peter -- AzByCx DwEvFu GtHsIr JqKpLo MnNmOl PkQjRi ShTgUf VeWdXc YbZa&@ Peter Fraterdeus http://www.midsummernightstamps.com http://www.fraterdeus.com |* + * + * + Rubber Stamp Fine Art! http://www.semiotx.com Web Strategy Consulting < * > Mac OS X "Words that work."(tm) Communication Design and Typography From magill at mcgillsociety.org Wed Apr 2 09:23:01 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Panic Attacks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <78A7A281-652F-11D7-8818-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 11:47 AM, Peter Fraterdeus wrote: > I'm getting kernel panics a couple of times a week. > How to decode the panic.log? Get the Darwin source code. > Any pointers, URLs? Panic "Dump busting" requires the source code in virtually all cases. It's the last "line of defense." It tends to be an art-form... because the actual cause tends to be "not there" when the dump is created. Paging errors are classic in this case -- if the OS references a non-existant page, it will panic, but the information will tell you that the page did not exist... not WHY it was trying to reference that page. You have to follow the trace back far enough to find the culpret, and if the system is busy, that can be a LOT of work. > I have uninstalled any extensions that I had in at the time these > started. ?Extensions? Do you really mean Kernel Extensions, or just using OS9 speak? > Is this a bad RAM situation? My experience has been that 10.2.4 only panics for hardware problems. Bad RAM is certainly the most common problem. I believe that Darwin will die with a single bit error, but I don't know that for a fact. "Commercial" Unix versions tend to survive single bit errors and fail on double bit errors. Problems with swap are the second cause... I/O errors related to swap can be deadly if the code being read is OS code. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From peterf at semiotx.com Wed Apr 2 10:32:01 2003 From: peterf at semiotx.com (Peter Fraterdeus) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Panic Attacks In-Reply-To: <78A7A281-652F-11D7-8818-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> References: <78A7A281-652F-11D7-8818-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> Message-ID: At 12:20 PM -0500 2003-04-02, William H. Magill wrote: Hi William Thanks very much for your reply (as always!) >On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 11:47 AM, Peter Fraterdeus wrote: >>I'm getting kernel panics a couple of times a week. >>How to decode the panic.log? >Get the Darwin source code. Yikes [{{{{;-) (over my head!) > >>Any pointers, URLs? >Panic "Dump busting" requires the source code in virtually all cases. >It's the last "line of defense." It tends to be an art-form... because the actual cause tends to be "not there" when the dump is created. Paging errors are classic in this case -- if the OS references a non-existant page, it will panic, but the information will tell you that the page did not exist... not WHY it was trying to reference that page. You have to follow the trace back far enough to find the culpret, and if the system is busy, that can be a LOT of work. Hmm. I'm generally getting a dump of about a dozen lines. >>I have uninstalled any extensions that I had in at the time these started. >?Extensions? Do you really mean Kernel Extensions, or just using OS9 speak? Just things like Virtual Desktop, etc. I would not expect that these could bring down the house, but thought it's better to back off from them. >>Is this a bad RAM situation? >My experience has been that 10.2.4 only panics for hardware problems. Bad RAM is certainly the most common problem. I believe that Darwin will die with a single bit error, but I don't know that for a fact. "Commercial" Unix versions tend to survive single bit errors and fail on double bit errors. Hmmm. This seems to have started when I installed a new 512M chip. (totalling 1GB in the tiBook) I have since removed the new chip, and re-installed the 256M (giving 768M), which had been working fine for months. However, I'm still getting these crashes, although less frequently! The swap thing may also be a concern. The internal HD did a hard crash back in Feb. Apple replaced the drive, but after 'restoring' from a Retrospect backup, I had to do a clean install of the OS to get back to work. I've had three or four persistent Disk First Aid errors that won't go away on this drive. (I can't run it just now, but I think it's Extent Overflow or something like that...) I've got a cloned external 60G that I initialized with a separate 'swap' volume. Maybe it's time to switch in into the tiBook! (My original intention...) Thanks, again! Peter >Problems with swap are the second cause... I/O errors related to swap can be deadly if the code being read is OS code. > >T.T.F.N. >William H. Magill -- AzByCx DwEvFu GtHsIr JqKpLo MnNmOl PkQjRi ShTgUf VeWdXc YbZa&@ Peter Fraterdeus http://www.midsummernightstamps.com http://www.fraterdeus.com |* + * + * + Rubber Stamp Fine Art! http://www.semiotx.com Web Strategy Consulting < * > Mac OS X "Words that work."(tm) Communication Design and Typography From dreamless at attbi.com Wed Apr 2 10:45:02 2003 From: dreamless at attbi.com (Nick Zitzmann) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Compiling proftpd on OS X server ! + info on xinetd needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1EEBAA52-653B-11D7-8B4D-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:16 AM, Gregory Bernard wrote: > Problem with a server running OSXS 10.1.5 > >> checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking target system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking for gcc... no >> checking for cc... cc >> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C >> compiler cannot >> create executables >> See `config.log' for more details. What version of the developer tools do you have installed? If you don't have the developer tools installed, then you must install them in order to build software. The December 2001 tools were the last stable release for OS X 10.1.x, although the April 2002 (Project Builder 2.0 beta) tools worked fine for me back when I used them. Nick Zitzmann AIM/iChat: dragonsdontsleep Check out my software page: http://dreamless.home.attbi.com/ "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." - Metal Gear Solid 2 From emoy at apple.com Wed Apr 2 11:00:01 2003 From: emoy at apple.com (Edward Moy) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Compiling proftpd on OS X server ! + info on xinetd needed In-Reply-To: <1EEBAA52-653B-11D7-8B4D-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> Message-ID: <3762ED90-653D-11D7-A84B-0030657B317C@apple.com> On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:16 AM, Gregory Bernard wrote: > Problem with a server running OSXS 10.1.5 > >> checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking target system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking for gcc... no >> checking for cc... cc >> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C >> compiler cannot >> create executables >> See `config.log' for more details. I don't know if this is the problem, but I was just recently compiling some other code, and got the same error message with configure. It turned out that my script driving the build had a few undefined variables, so that the CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS environment variables I was passing to configure were incomplete, leaving bare -I and -L flags, which screwed up the command line argument interpretation of the cc command. Fixing my script (and passing real paths with -I and -L) fixed the problem. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Edward Moy Apple Computer, Inc. emoy@apple.com (This message is from me as a reader of this list, and not a statement from Apple.) From chrisanders at mac.com Wed Apr 2 11:48:02 2003 From: chrisanders at mac.com (Chris Anders) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Panic Attacks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mittwoch, April 2, 2003, at 06:47 Uhr, Peter Fraterdeus wrote: > How to decode the panic.log? > > Any pointers, URLs? Peter, there is a TechNote on this topic. Look for it here: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2002/tn2063.html Regards, Chris From shoop at iWiring.Net Wed Apr 2 12:10:06 2003 From: shoop at iWiring.Net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Compiling proftpd on OS X server ! + info on xinetd needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 11:16 AM +0200 4/2/03, Gregory Bernard wrote: >Dear user, > >I am trying to update my proftpd server (running proftpd 1.2.4) to 1.2.8 >(latest version) on OS X server and am having a hard time compiling it. > > >Problem with a server running OSXS 10.1.5 > >> checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking target system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking for gcc... no >> checking for cc... cc >> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C >>compiler cannot >> create executables >> See `config.log' for more details. > >Any clue will be welcome. Clues would be contained in "config.log", as stated. You do have the latest DevTools installed? >I do not exactly figure out what are the issue regarding xinetd which I have >been reading about here and there... I'm not aware of any issues. >How does it relates to inetd ? It doesn't really, it's a replacement. >How does the system make use of these files ? `man xinetd` or read "Essential Systems Administration" by OR&A. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop shoop@iwiring.net Consulting Internet Architect shoop@mac.com pgp key fingerprint: FAC0 9434 B5A5 24A8 D0AF 12B1 7840 3BE7 3736 DE0B 'In Rahima Kuta [Iraq], a dusty collection of houses, the locals were already celebrating the imminent fall of Saddam Hussein. Fuwad, 32, said: "I have already killed two sheep to celebrate. When he is dead I will kill the five I have left." ' From shoop at iWiring.Net Wed Apr 2 12:16:06 2003 From: shoop at iWiring.Net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:38 2005 Subject: Panic Attacks In-Reply-To: <78A7A281-652F-11D7-8818-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> References: <78A7A281-652F-11D7-8818-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> Message-ID: At 12:20 PM -0500 4/2/03, William H. Magill wrote: >On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 11:47 AM, Peter Fraterdeus wrote: >>I'm getting kernel panics a couple of times a week. >>How to decode the panic.log? >Get the Darwin source code. > >>Any pointers, URLs? >Panic "Dump busting" requires the source code in virtually all cases. >It's the last "line of defense." It tends to be an art-form... >because the actual cause tends to be "not there" when the dump is >created. Paging errors are classic in this case -- if the OS >references a non-existant page, it will panic, but the information >will tell you that the page did not exist... not WHY it was trying >to reference that page. You have to follow the trace back far enough >to find the culpret, and if the system is busy, that can be a LOT of >work. And generally requires not only an intimate knowledge of the source code but of the machine language (PPC in this case as well.) You should at least understand how to unwind the stack and hwo the processor registers operate. >>I have uninstalled any extensions that I had in at the time these started. >?Extensions? Do you really mean Kernel Extensions, or just using OS9 speak? People do install these, despite Apple's suggestions to use other methods, and they due tend to be problematic. >>Is this a bad RAM situation? >My experience has been that 10.2.4 only panics for hardware >problems. Bad RAM is certainly the most common problem. I believe >that Darwin will die with a single bit error, but I don't know that >for a fact. "Commercial" Unix versions tend to survive single bit >errors and fail on double bit errors. OS X is very susceptible to memory problems. You should make sure that your memory tests out and is properly rated. TechTool can be of a minor help but not a complete diagnostic, it will give false negatives. >Problems with swap are the second cause... I/O errors related to >swap can be deadly if the code being read is OS code. Hopefully any non-pagable code isn't. :) -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop shoop@iwiring.net Consulting Internet Architect shoop@mac.com pgp key fingerprint: FAC0 9434 B5A5 24A8 D0AF 12B1 7840 3BE7 3736 DE0B 'In Rahima Kuta [Iraq], a dusty collection of houses, the locals were already celebrating the imminent fall of Saddam Hussein. Fuwad, 32, said: "I have already killed two sheep to celebrate. When he is dead I will kill the five I have left." ' From macosx-admin at sjk.us Wed Apr 2 12:27:02 2003 From: macosx-admin at sjk.us (Scott J. Kramer) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: How to disable sudo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2147483647.1049278322@localhost> --On Sunday, March 30, 2003 10:14 -0800 OSX wrote: [...] > [g3p1:/] root# man sudoers > No manual entry for sudoers > [g3p1:/] root# man 5 sudoers > No entry for sudoers in section 5 of the manual > > ??? ARE my man pages broken? Make sure the BSDSDK Developer Tools package is installed. You'll end up with a bunch of other section 5 and 3 man pages, too. -sjk From smith at panix.com Wed Apr 2 13:37:11 2003 From: smith at panix.com (Brian Redman) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Panic Attacks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <36CD2D6E-6553-11D7-B488-00039367011A@panix.com> On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 02:47 PM, Chris Anders wrote: > > On Mittwoch, April 2, 2003, at 06:47 Uhr, Peter Fraterdeus wrote: > >> How to decode the panic.log? >> >> Any pointers, URLs? > > Peter, > > there is a TechNote on this topic. Look for it here: > > http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2002/tn2063.html Nice pointer. Thanks, ber From magill at mcgillsociety.org Wed Apr 2 17:59:01 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: OSX Memory issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 03:15 PM, Dan Shoop wrote: > At 12:20 PM -0500 4/2/03, William H. Magill wrote: >> On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 11:47 AM, Peter Fraterdeus wrote: >>> Is this a bad RAM situation? >> My experience has been that 10.2.4 only panics for hardware problems. >> Bad RAM is certainly the most common problem. I believe that Darwin >> will die with a single bit error, but I don't know that for a fact. >> "Commercial" Unix versions tend to survive single bit errors and fail >> on double bit errors. > OS X is very susceptible to memory problems. You should make sure that > your memory tests out and is properly rated. TechTool can be of a > minor help but not a complete diagnostic, it will give false > negatives. WHY is 10.2 so much more memory sensitive than earlier versions? I know that Apple made significant modifications to the memory subsystem, between 10.1 and 10.2 but I have no idea what. I have some theories based upon my own experiences and on experiences reported by others but no concrete evidence. Does anybody know what Apple actually DID to ?Darwin? or ??? The "nominal" answer to WHY did apple make those changes? is: "to improve performance." Now of course, I could be cynical and add, they HAD to make those changes because Motorola couldn't deliver....:) T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From dreamless at attbi.com Wed Apr 2 18:21:01 2003 From: dreamless at attbi.com (Nick Zitzmann) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: OSX Memory issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 05:58 PM, William H. Magill wrote: > WHY is 10.2 so much more memory sensitive than earlier versions? It's been my observation that Mac OS X 10.2 is way more aggressive at caching memory than 10.1.x and earlier. Which means that even if you're not running many applications, your Mac's memory is probably full anyway... Nick Zitzmann AIM/iChat: dragonsdontsleep Check out my software page: http://dreamless.home.attbi.com/ "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." - Metal Gear Solid 2 From kef_list at ibacom.es Thu Apr 3 00:26:00 2003 From: kef_list at ibacom.es (Kefauver, Charles) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Compiling proftpd on OS X server ! + info on xinetd needed In-Reply-To: <1EEBAA52-653B-11D7-8B4D-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> References: <1EEBAA52-653B-11D7-8B4D-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> Message-ID: ?Does the path to your source folder contain any spaces? I had the same problem, and went crazy, until I realized it was invalid characters in the path. Charles At 10:44 AM -0800 4/2/03, Nick Zitzmann wrote: >On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:16 AM, Gregory Bernard wrote: > >>Problem with a server running OSXS 10.1.5 >> >>>checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >>>checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >>>checking target system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >>>checking for gcc... no >>>checking for cc... cc >>>checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C >>>compiler cannot >>>create executables >>>See `config.log' for more details. > >What version of the developer tools do you have installed? If you >don't have the developer tools installed, then you must install them >in order to build software. The December 2001 tools were the last >stable release for OS X 10.1.x, although the April 2002 (Project >Builder 2.0 beta) tools worked fine for me back when I used them. > >Nick Zitzmann >AIM/iChat: dragonsdontsleep >Check out my software page: http://dreamless.home.attbi.com/ > >"Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same >thing." - Metal Gear Solid 2 > >_______________________________________________ >MacOSX-admin mailing list >MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From gregory.bernard at todoo.biz Thu Apr 3 01:00:01 2003 From: gregory.bernard at todoo.biz (Gregory Bernard) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Compiling proftpd on OS X server ! + info on xinetd needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Le 2/04/03 22:09, ??Dan Shoop?? a ?crit?: > At 11:16 AM +0200 4/2/03, Gregory Bernard wrote: >> Dear user, >> >> I am trying to update my proftpd server (running proftpd 1.2.4) to 1.2.8 >> (latest version) on OS X server and am having a hard time compiling it. >> >> >> Problem with a server running OSXS 10.1.5 >> >>> checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >>> checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >>> checking target system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >>> checking for gcc... no >>> checking for cc... cc >>> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C >>> compiler cannot >>> create executables >>> See `config.log' for more details. >> >> Any clue will be welcome. > > Clues would be contained in "config.log", as stated. > Here is the config.log : ------------------------ I have to say that It ain't like chinese, but close from it ! Thanks for your help. --- [dali:~/Tmp/proftpd-1.2.8] greg% more config.log This file contains any messages produced by compilers while running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. It was created by configure, which was generated by GNU Autoconf 2.57. Invocation command line was $ ./configure ## --------- ## ## Platform. ## ## --------- ## hostname = dali uname -m = Power Macintosh uname -r = 5.5 uname -s = Darwin uname -v = Darwin Kernel Version 5.5: Thu May 30 14:51:26 PDT 2002; root:xnu/xnu -201.42.3.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC /usr/bin/uname -p = powerpc /bin/uname -X = unknown /bin/arch = unknown /usr/bin/arch -k = unknown /usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown hostinfo = Mach kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 5.5: Thu May 30 14:51:26 PDT 2002; root:xnu/xnu-201.42.3.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Kernel configured for up to 2 processors. 1 processor is physically available. Processor type: ppc7400 (PowerPC 7400) Processor active: 0 Primary memory available: 1024.00 megabytes. Default processor set: 65 tasks, 208 threads, 1 processors Load average: 1.72, Mach factor: 0.47 unknown /bin/machine = unknown /usr/bin/oslevel = unknown /bin/universe = unknown PATH: ~/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin PATH: /Network/Servers/dali/Users/greg/bin PATH: /usr/local/bin PATH: /usr/bin PATH: /bin PATH: /usr/local/sbin PATH: /usr/sbin PATH: /sbin ## ----------- ## ## Core tests. ## ## ----------- ## configure:1379: checking build system type configure:1397: result: powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 configure:1405: checking host system type configure:1419: result: powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 configure:1427: checking target system type configure:1441: result: powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 configure:1520: checking for gcc configure:1549: result: no configure:1600: checking for cc configure:1616: found /usr/bin/cc configure:1626: result: cc configure:1790: checking for C compiler version configure:1793: cc --version &5 2.95.2 configure:1796: $? = 0 configure:1798: cc -v &5 Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/2.95.2/specs Apple Computer, Inc. version gcc-926, based on gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (rele ase) configure:1801: $? = 0 configure:1803: cc -V &5 cc: argument to `-V' is missing configure:1806: $? = 1 configure:1830: checking for C compiler default output configure:1833: cc conftest.c >&5 /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libSystem.dylib load command 6 unknown cmd field configure:1836: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: | #line 1809 "configure" | /* confdefs.h. */ | | #define PACKAGE_NAME "" | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "" | #define PACKAGE_VERSION "" | #define PACKAGE_STRING "" | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "" | /* end confdefs.h. */ | | int | main () | { | | ; | return 0; | } configure:1874: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. ## ---------------- ## ## Cache variables. ## ## ---------------- ## ac_cv_build=powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 ac_cv_build_alias=powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 ac_cv_env_CC_set='' ac_cv_env_CC_value='' ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_set='' ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_value='' ac_cv_env_CPPFLAGS_set='' ac_cv_env_CPPFLAGS_value='' ac_cv_env_CPP_set='' ac_cv_env_CPP_value='' ac_cv_env_LDFLAGS_set='' ac_cv_env_LDFLAGS_value='' ac_cv_env_LIBS_set='' ac_cv_env_LIBS_value='' ac_cv_env_build_alias_set='' ac_cv_env_build_alias_value='' ac_cv_env_host_alias_set='' ac_cv_env_host_alias_value='' ac_cv_env_target_alias_set='' ac_cv_env_target_alias_value='' ac_cv_host=powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 ac_cv_host_alias=powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 ac_cv_prog_ac_ct_CC=cc ac_cv_target=powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 ac_cv_target_alias=powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 ## ----------------- ## ## Output variables. ## ## ----------------- ## ADDL_DIRS='' ALLOCA='' BUILD_MODULE_OBJS='' CC='cc' CFLAGS='' CPP='' CPPFLAGS='' CURSES_LIBS='' DEFS='' ECHO_C='' ECHO_N='-n' ECHO_T='' EGREP='' EXEEXT='' INCLUDES='' INSTALL_DATA='' INSTALL_PROGRAM='' INSTALL_SCRIPT='' INSTALL_STRIP='' LDFLAGS='' LIBOBJS='' LIBRARIES='' LIBS='' LIB_OBJS='' LTLIBOBJS='' MODULE_OBJS='' OBJEXT='' OSREL='-DDARWIN5_5' OSTYPE='-DDARWIN5' PACKAGE_BUGREPORT='' PACKAGE_NAME='' PACKAGE_STRING='' PACKAGE_TARNAME='' PACKAGE_VERSION='' PATH_SEPARATOR=':' RANLIB='' SET_MAKE='' SHELL='/bin/sh' VERSION='' ac_ct_CC='cc' ac_ct_RANLIB='' bindir='${exec_prefix}/bin' build='powerpc-apple-darwin5.5' build_alias='' build_cpu='powerpc' build_os='darwin5.5' build_vendor='apple' datadir='${prefix}/share' exec_prefix='NONE' host='powerpc-apple-darwin5.5' host_alias='' host_cpu='powerpc' host_os='darwin5.5' host_vendor='apple' includedir='${prefix}/include' infodir='${prefix}/info' install_group='' install_user='' libdir='${exec_prefix}/lib' libexecdir='${exec_prefix}/libexec' localstatedir='${prefix}/var' mandir='${prefix}/man' oldincludedir='/usr/include' prefix='NONE' program_transform_name='s,x,x,' sbindir='${exec_prefix}/sbin' sharedstatedir='${prefix}/com' sysconfdir='${prefix}/etc' target='powerpc-apple-darwin5.5' target_alias='' target_cpu='powerpc' target_os='darwin5.5' target_vendor='apple' ## ----------- ## ## confdefs.h. ## ## ----------- ## #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "" #define PACKAGE_NAME "" #define PACKAGE_STRING "" #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "" #define PACKAGE_VERSION "" configure: exit 77 ________________________________________________ ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? Gr?gory Bernard 21, rue JJ Rousseau Directeur 75001 Paris France www.ToDoo.biz tel : +(33) 1 40 26 43 14 ________________________________________________ ???????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD From perotti at pobox.com Thu Apr 3 05:25:01 2003 From: perotti at pobox.com (Riccardo Perotti) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 04/02/2003 04:47 AM, "fleep@accesstech.com" wrote: > At 14:47 -0500 03.03.29, Riccardo Perotti wrote: > > > Boot into OS 9 - change the name of the file to normal text and then you > can delete it. If its in an invisible folder use ResEdit to make it > visible. > > Had the same problem with a folder named '.' and this was the quickest way > to fix it. > > > phillip... Thank you Phillip for a pointer in the right direction. I finally got rid of the $%/&@#! duplicate ".." folder. For the record: (1) Yes, it *was* a duplicate folder named exactly "..", no extra characters, as in: [elfsystems:.Trashes/501/BackUps] perotti% ls -lia total 0 28798 drwxrwxrwx 3 perotti unknown 102 Mar 31 11:30 . 33221 drwxrwxrwx 3 perotti unknown 102 Mar 31 11:19 .. 33221 drwxrwxrwx 3 perotti unknown 102 Mar 31 11:19 .. (2) Could not be 'rm', 'rmdir' nor 'mv' -ed, even with all the dangerous switches. (3) Contrary to what I was hoping (and many people advised), Disk Warrior didn't catch it. (4) I was going to plunge into the man pages of fsck and look into midnight commander (per Phillip's advise) but I decided to try the above quoted tip before that (Phillip's as well). Booting into OS9, I could not make the extra ".." visible because it was visible already (according to ResEdit but not to the Finder!), so I ended up making the ".Trashes" folder visible and deleting it via Finder. (I then made another ".Trashes" folder). Booting back to OSX, the folder was finally gone and my trash finally empty. Thanks to all who suggested the many solutions I've tried for the past 4-5 days. Best Regards, Riccardo -- mailto:perotti@pobox.com http://www.riccardoperotti.com From bcox at virtualschool.edu Thu Apr 3 05:53:03 2003 From: bcox at virtualschool.edu (Brad Cox) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent Message-ID: <6664FB37-65DB-11D7-8D68-000502871399@virtualschool.edu> Could someone please respond to this message? Need to settle this today. I've a five year old Beige G3 Mac Server with two internal IBM SCSI drives, both of which have gone tits up after five years of continual use. Money, expertise and time are both short so I'm hoping someone with vendor experience can help get me back on the air. Running Mac OSX on the G3 server and the laptop I'm using to send this. 256mb currently with another 256 in the drawer waiting to be installed. While I'm at it, I want to instal USB adapters, a writable CD drive (external), and an external hard drive (USB is OK) as backup for the internal drives (I already have retrospect for tape backup, which I expect to back up to the external hard drive). Can someone here provide suggestions for what to get and where to get it? Tried MacConnection but they seemed very expensive. The crashed drives are factory installed (apple) IBM HDD drives, 9gb, 3.5 inch SCSI. Model DDRS39130 P/N 03L5294, 5v 550ma 12V 650ma DC. I want the replacements to occupy the same space and use the same cables. From the http://www.scsiscoure.com/scsi_hard_drives price list, these look suitable for the internal drives and the price is certainly right. Do they meet the above requirements? IBM Ultrastar 36LP 9GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 7200 RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - SCA to 68 pin adapter included, OEM 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N3150) 29.00 IBM Ultrastar 36LZX 18 GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 10,000 RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - Includes SCA to 68 pin adapter, New OEM with 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N6296) 69.00 From waltd at wdstudio.com Thu Apr 3 06:01:01 2003 From: waltd at wdstudio.com (Walter Lee Davis) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent In-Reply-To: <6664FB37-65DB-11D7-8D68-000502871399@virtualschool.edu> Message-ID: <972D4E96-65DC-11D7-82DD-000393C48A5C@wdstudio.com> Have a look at http://www.macsales.com -- they have the Apple OEM 9gb and 36gb IBM drives last time I checked. They also have lots of other stuff you want, like USB/FireWire PCI adapters. Walter On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 08:51 AM, Brad Cox wrote: > The crashed drives are factory installed (apple) IBM HDD drives, 9gb, > 3.5 inch SCSI. Model DDRS39130 P/N 03L5294, 5v 550ma 12V 650ma DC. I > want the replacements to occupy the same space and use the same > cables. From ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu Thu Apr 3 06:10:01 2003 From: ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu (Cunningham, Chad) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent In-Reply-To: <6664FB37-65DB-11D7-8D68-000502871399@virtualschool.edu> Message-ID: Hi, I'd recommend against IBM... We, and others in the college, have had extremely bad luck with IBM SCSI drives lately. In the past year we've had 3 drive failures in our RAID array (of 10 drives total), as well as failures of drives in 2 of our other servers (non raid, just local disks). We've heard from others in the college of similar problems. We recently ripped the IBM drives out of all of our machines and replaced them with Seagates... > IBM Ultrastar 36LP 9GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 7200 > RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - SCA to 68 pin adapter included, > OEM 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N3150) 29.00 > > IBM Ultrastar 36LZX 18 GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 10,000 > RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - Includes SCA to 68 pin adapter, > New OEM with 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N6296) 69.00 From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Thu Apr 3 06:26:01 2003 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks Inc.) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent In-Reply-To: <6664FB37-65DB-11D7-8D68-000502871399@virtualschool.edu> Message-ID: <1B47D31C-65E0-11D7-9BD7-003065A70D30@objectwerks.com> On Thursday, Apr 3, 2003, at 06:51 US/Mountain, Brad Cox wrote: > From the http://www.scsiscoure.com/scsi_hard_drives price list, these > look suitable for the internal drives and the price is certainly > right. Do they meet the above requirements? > > IBM Ultrastar 36LP 9GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 7200 > RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - SCA to 68 pin adapter included, > OEM 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N3150) 29.00 > > IBM Ultrastar 36LZX 18 GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 10,000 > RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - Includes SCA to 68 pin adapter, > New OEM with 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N6296) > 69.00 > What sort of controller is in your Mac? The SCSI-3 drives I have, have had jumpers on them to force them to be single ended, which would force them to work as normal ultra scsi... I would just double check your controller and that these drives will work with the controller. AND, check that there is room at the back of the current drives for the SCA-68 pin converter. They can be pretty large (comparatively) and you need room in your box for them. Try and find drives that are native 68 pin and not with an 80-68 pin converter... Here is a place that has drives too Chad From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Thu Apr 3 10:00:01 2003 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks Inc.) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thursday, Apr 3, 2003, at 07:09 US/Mountain, Cunningham, Chad wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd recommend against IBM... We, and others in the college, have had > extremely bad luck with IBM SCSI drives lately. In the past year we've > had > 3 drive failures in our RAID array (of 10 drives total), as well as > failures of drives in 2 of our other servers (non raid, just local > disks). > We've heard from others in the college of similar problems. > How is this compared to other drives? I have been running IBM SCSI drives for years in my servers, and have not had one failure (including a bunch of u160 18 gig drives for almost two years straight in 24/7 web and email servers). I did have 2 Fujitsu u160 18gig drives fail (out of 3), after less than a year in service... I am just wondering how many people could report similar Seagate or Quantum/Maxtor or Western Digital experiences... best Chad From magill at mcgillsociety.org Thu Apr 3 11:26:01 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0B4F73DD-660A-11D7-AB87-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 12:59 PM, Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks Inc. wrote: > On Thursday, Apr 3, 2003, at 07:09 US/Mountain, Cunningham, Chad wrote: >> I'd recommend against IBM... We, and others in the college, have had >> extremely bad luck with IBM SCSI drives lately. In the past year >> we've had >> 3 drive failures in our RAID array (of 10 drives total), as well as >> failures of drives in 2 of our other servers (non raid, just local >> disks). >> We've heard from others in the college of similar problems. > How is this compared to other drives? I have been running IBM SCSI > drives for years in my servers, and have not had one failure > (including a bunch of u160 18 gig drives for almost two years straight > in 24/7 web and email servers). I did have 2 Fujitsu u160 18gig > drives fail (out of 3), after less than a year in service... > > I am just wondering how many people could report similar Seagate or > Quantum/Maxtor or Western Digital experiences... In general, all drive mechanisms from all manufactures are pretty equivalent today. They make good ones and bad ones. The basic technology is not new, probably about 5 years old at this point in time. (I know, that is a very gross generalization, but even talking about 10K or 15K RPM drives, they aren't "new," and 5400 or 7200 most definitely are not.) Disk drives all suffer from one of two problems... infant mortality or old age. Once past infant mortality, drive failures are "normally" induced by some external event -- typically power problems or physical shock -- until the "bearings freeze." Over recent years, working with many different platforms and different manufactures from different vendors, I have found that drives tend to work or not work until they fail. (I'm talking about a 200-300 drive installation.) I've seen more problems with the drive interfaces in the past 5-10 years than with the physical drives themselves. I can not say that I have seen any vendor who produces "consistently good" product. One of the more interesting aspects is the issue of "quality control." Just as with CPU and Memory, manufactures produce only one kind of "thing." (Again, a gross simplification, but much more accurate than most people assume.) They run it through their quality control and if it doesn't perform up to spec A, they lower the standard to spec B and see if the device meets that spec. With disks, they spare some tracks and see what happens. If it only meets the lower spec, it is "re-labeled" and sold with the lower specs - sometimes under their own name, sometimes to others. This is all part and parcel of "yield management." Sadly, some of this "lowered quality" material is actually sold to "third parties" who agree to do the re-branding. Then those parties sell them to others who re-re-brand them back to the original "because they can't tell the difference." And, just as with over-clocking, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But remember, those "gray market" drives, even though the OEM was a "brand name" are cheap for some reason... somebody is out to make a buck on them. There are frequently "runs" of problems with devices. Including some classic ones involving lubricants that broke down after 8700 hours (nominally one year) instead of the projected 26,000 - 43,500 hours (3-5 years) or more. (I think that WAS a problem with one version of IBM drives at one time.) This last point, is important to remember: MTBF (Mean time between failures) calculations are all "art." For the simple reason that most of the rated devices haven't existed for anywhere near the length of their MTBF. And don't forget -- it's a MEAN!! That means that half of the devices are GUARANTEED to fail in a shorter time, and half will last "forever." The odds of any individual device surviving to the MTBF number are 50-50. If you have a MTBF rating of 131,000 hours (15 years) half of all disk drives with that rating WILL fail BEFORE reaching 15 years of usage. The important thing to remember... as with memory, stick with a vendor who has a no-questions asked swap policy (or maintenance contract), and perform BACKUPS. Something with only a 90 day or 3-year warranty, is only predicted, by the seller, to work that long! [Just think about automobile or appliance warranties to understand what I'm talking about.] T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From slong at lps.org Thu Apr 3 11:37:01 2003 From: slong at lps.org (Scott J. Long) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Rerunning set up assistant. Message-ID: For the life of me I can't remember the name of and path to the file that must be deleted to rerun the set up assistant for OS X server. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Scott ***************************************************************** Scott J. Long slong@lps.org Network Manager http://lsw.lps.org Lincoln Southwest High School W:402-436-1306 ext 66350 Lincoln Public Schools C: 402-440-2053 7001 South 14th Street. http://hawk.lps.org/~slong Lincoln, NE 68512 ***************************************************************** From philburk at mac.com Thu Apr 3 11:45:01 2003 From: philburk at mac.com (philburk) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Rerunning set up assistant. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: /private/var/db/.AppleSetupDone On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Scott J. Long wrote: > For the life of me I can't remember the name of and path to the file > that > must be deleted to rerun the set up assistant for OS X server. Phil Burk _______________________________________________________ Systems Support Technician Wiley Publishing, Inc. Indianapolis, IN 317-572-3049 From David.Sugg at warnerbros.com Thu Apr 3 12:15:01 2003 From: David.Sugg at warnerbros.com (Sugg, David) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Need some hardware advice. Urgent Message-ID: <12924A77459390-02@MMS__ad.corp.aoltw.net_> I too would recommend against IBM drives. IBM USED to be all that I used. I've seen too many failures and have had several vendors recommend against using them. Maybe now that Hitachi owns them it will get better again, but for now, I'm back to Seagate. David Sugg Director, Digital Systems Warner Bros. Consumer Products david.sugg@warnerbros.com ------------------- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 08:51:42 -0500 From: Brad Cox Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com Cc: Brad Cox Could someone please respond to this message? Need to settle this today. I've a five year old Beige G3 Mac Server with two internal IBM SCSI drives, both of which have gone tits up after five years of continual use. Money, expertise and time are both short so I'm hoping someone with vendor experience can help get me back on the air. Running Mac OSX on the G3 server and the laptop I'm using to send this. 256mb currently with another 256 in the drawer waiting to be installed. While I'm at it, I want to instal USB adapters, a writable CD drive (external), and an external hard drive (USB is OK) as backup for the internal drives (I already have retrospect for tape backup, which I expect to back up to the external hard drive). Can someone here provide suggestions for what to get and where to get it? Tried MacConnection but they seemed very expensive. The crashed drives are factory installed (apple) IBM HDD drives, 9gb, 3.5 inch SCSI. Model DDRS39130 P/N 03L5294, 5v 550ma 12V 650ma DC. I want the replacements to occupy the same space and use the same cables. From the http://www.scsiscoure.com/scsi_hard_drives price list, these look suitable for the internal drives and the price is certainly right. Do they meet the above requirements? IBM Ultrastar 36LP 9GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 7200 RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - SCA to 68 pin adapter included, OEM 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N3150) 29.00 IBM Ultrastar 36LZX 18 GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 10,000 RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - Includes SCA to 68 pin adapter, New OEM with 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N6296) 69.00 From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Thu Apr 3 14:08:04 2003 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks Inc.) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Need some hardware advice. Urgent In-Reply-To: <12924A77459390-02@MMS__ad.corp.aoltw.net_> Message-ID: On Thursday, Apr 3, 2003, at 13:13 US/Mountain, Sugg, David wrote: > I too would recommend against IBM drives. IBM USED to be all that I > used. I've seen too many failures and have had several vendors > recommend against using them. Maybe now that Hitachi owns them it > will get better again, but for now, I'm back to Seagate. Their IDE drives have had lots of problems, but they are a different line and design from their "Enterprise" line. Have you had lots of trouble with the SCSI drives? Mine have all worked flawlessly... Chad > > David Sugg > Director, Digital Systems > Warner Bros. Consumer Products > david.sugg@warnerbros.com > > ------------------- > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 08:51:42 -0500 > From: Brad Cox > Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent > To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > Cc: Brad Cox > > Could someone please respond to this message? Need to settle this > today. > > I've a five year old Beige G3 Mac Server with two internal IBM SCSI > drives, both of which have gone tits up after five years of continual > use. Money, expertise and time are both short so I'm hoping someone > with vendor experience can help get me back on the air. Running Mac OSX > on the G3 server and the laptop I'm using to send this. 256mb currently > with another 256 in the drawer waiting to be installed. > > While I'm at it, I want to instal USB adapters, a writable CD drive > (external), and an external hard drive (USB is OK) as backup for the > internal drives (I already have retrospect for tape backup, which I > expect to back up to the external hard drive). > > Can someone here provide suggestions for what to get and where to get > it? Tried MacConnection but they seemed very expensive. > > The crashed drives are factory installed (apple) IBM HDD drives, 9gb, > 3.5 inch SCSI. Model DDRS39130 P/N 03L5294, 5v 550ma 12V 650ma DC. I > want the replacements to occupy the same space and use the same cables. > > From the http://www.scsiscoure.com/scsi_hard_drives price list, these > look suitable for the internal drives and the price is certainly right. > Do they meet the above requirements? > > IBM Ultrastar 36LP 9GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 7200 > RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - SCA to 68 pin adapter included, > OEM 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N3150) 29.00 > > IBM Ultrastar 36LZX 18 GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 10,000 > RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - Includes SCA to 68 pin adapter, > New OEM with 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N6296) 69.00 > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From David.Sugg at warnerbros.com Thu Apr 3 14:22:01 2003 From: David.Sugg at warnerbros.com (Sugg, David) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Need some hardware advice. Urgent Message-ID: <12926C4D526585-01@MMS__ad.corp.aoltw.net_> I have seen a number of failures of their UltraStar line of U160 SCSI drives over the last 2 years. All drives have been installed in a RAID array and have gone dead... Their IDE drives have been so-so. David -----Original Message----- From: Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks Inc. [mailto:chad+macosx@objectwerks.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:08 PM To: Sugg, David Cc: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com Subject: Re: Need some hardware advice. Urgent On Thursday, Apr 3, 2003, at 13:13 US/Mountain, Sugg, David wrote: > I too would recommend against IBM drives. IBM USED to be all that I > used. I've seen too many failures and have had several vendors > recommend against using them. Maybe now that Hitachi owns them it > will get better again, but for now, I'm back to Seagate. Their IDE drives have had lots of problems, but they are a different line and design from their "Enterprise" line. Have you had lots of trouble with the SCSI drives? Mine have all worked flawlessly... Chad > > David Sugg > Director, Digital Systems > Warner Bros. Consumer Products > david.sugg@warnerbros.com > > ------------------- > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 08:51:42 -0500 > From: Brad Cox > Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent > To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > Cc: Brad Cox > > Could someone please respond to this message? Need to settle this > today. > > I've a five year old Beige G3 Mac Server with two internal IBM SCSI > drives, both of which have gone tits up after five years of continual > use. Money, expertise and time are both short so I'm hoping someone > with vendor experience can help get me back on the air. Running Mac OSX > on the G3 server and the laptop I'm using to send this. 256mb currently > with another 256 in the drawer waiting to be installed. > > While I'm at it, I want to instal USB adapters, a writable CD drive > (external), and an external hard drive (USB is OK) as backup for the > internal drives (I already have retrospect for tape backup, which I > expect to back up to the external hard drive). > > Can someone here provide suggestions for what to get and where to get > it? Tried MacConnection but they seemed very expensive. > > The crashed drives are factory installed (apple) IBM HDD drives, 9gb, > 3.5 inch SCSI. Model DDRS39130 P/N 03L5294, 5v 550ma 12V 650ma DC. I > want the replacements to occupy the same space and use the same cables. > > From the http://www.scsiscoure.com/scsi_hard_drives price list, these > look suitable for the internal drives and the price is certainly right. > Do they meet the above requirements? > > IBM Ultrastar 36LP 9GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 7200 > RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - SCA to 68 pin adapter included, > OEM 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N3150) 29.00 > > IBM Ultrastar 36LZX 18 GB, Ultra160 Wide LVD SCSI-3, 10,000 > RPM, 3.5" LP, 80 pin interface - Includes SCA to 68 pin adapter, > New OEM with 90 day warranty. (IBM p/n: 07N6296) 69.00 > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From milk at pixar.com Thu Apr 3 16:54:15 2003 From: milk at pixar.com (Gabe Benveniste) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: username instead of full name when connecting to server? Message-ID: does anyone know if it's possible to change the behavior of 'connect to server' such that it'll put in the username by default instead of the full name? - gabe From general at maccrafters.com Thu Apr 3 17:00:02 2003 From: general at maccrafters.com (Floyd Resler) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/3/03 9:09 AM, "Cunningham, Chad" pounded on the keyboard: > > Hi, > > I'd recommend against IBM... We, and others in the college, have had > extremely bad luck with IBM SCSI drives lately. In the past year we've had > 3 drive failures in our RAID array (of 10 drives total), as well as > failures of drives in 2 of our other servers (non raid, just local disks). > We've heard from others in the college of similar problems. > I'd have to second this recommendation. I work for a sub-contractor of IBM and IBM SCSI drives fail quite often. I set up a Linux box on an IBM x330 and, a week later, one of the drives failed. I had to go through four other drives before I found a good one. Floyd From fleep at accesstech.com Thu Apr 3 17:55:00 2003 From: fleep at accesstech.com (fleep@accesstech.com) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 06:22 -0500 03.04.03, Riccardo Perotti wrote: >(4) I was going to plunge into the man pages of fsck and look into midnight >commander (per Phillip's advise) but I decided to try the above quoted tip >before that (Phillip's as well). Booting into OS9, I could not make the >extra ".." visible because it was visible already (according to ResEdit but >not to the Finder!), so I ended up making the ".Trashes" folder visible and >deleting it via Finder. (I then made another ".Trashes" folder). Booting >back to OSX, the folder was finally gone and my trash finally empty. > >Thanks to all who suggested the many solutions I've tried for the past 4-5 >days. Glad you managed to get rid of it. Yes it is a pesky problem that I'm sure that is going to crop up again and again. As far as I know, under FreeBSD and other UNIX/LINUX platforms they have protection against having a file named / saved (etc.) either '.' or '..' Is there a way that Apple can build this in to the File System as well to stave off this problem? phillip... From bcox at virtualschool.edu Thu Apr 3 19:43:01 2003 From: bcox at virtualschool.edu (Brad Cox) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <49453688-664F-11D7-ACA3-000502871399@virtualschool.edu> I reported this some time ago and they examined the problem at length, but unfortunately after I'd removed most of the evidence. The general sense was that the cause was an aborted expansion of a tarball imported from another system. The causes was as mysterious to apple as it is to me. MacOS9 will remove such cruft cleanly. On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 08:52 PM, fleep@accesstech.com wrote: > As far as I know, under FreeBSD and other UNIX/LINUX platforms they > have > protection against having a file named / saved (etc.) either '.' or > '..' > > Is there a way that Apple can build this in to the File System as well > to > stave off this problem? From fleep at accesstech.com Thu Apr 3 20:05:01 2003 From: fleep at accesstech.com (fleep@accesstech.com) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Compiling proftpd on OS X server ! + info on xinetd needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 11:16 +0200 03.04.02, Gregory Bernard wrote: >I am trying to update my proftpd server (running proftpd 1.2.4) to 1.2.8 >(latest version) on OS X server and am having a hard time compiling it. > >Problem with a server running OSXS 10.1.5 > >> checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking target system type... powerpc-apple-darwin5.5 >> checking for gcc... no >> checking for cc... cc >> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler >>cannot >> create executables >> See `config.log' for more details. Well it looks like you don't have the developer tools installed. No GCC compiler and only cc tells me that you just have a plain 10.1.5 install. Have you downloaded the Developer tools yet? ProFTPD compiles nice and clean as long as you have the latest Dev Tools. It is also highly recommended that you upgrade to 10.2.4 and the December Developer Tools. Also take a look at http://macosxhints.com for tips on building ProFTPD as well. phillip... From subscriber at gloaming.com Thu Apr 3 20:35:01 2003 From: subscriber at gloaming.com (James Bucanek) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: fleep@accesstech.com wrote on Friday, April 4, 2003: >Is there a way that Apple can build this in to the File System as well to >stave off this problem? It is built into the OS. I'm convinced that you can't create these files in OS X, and I'd be very stunned to see an example that does (you can't even do it from Classic). The problem is that these files/directories get created in OS 9 (where they are perfectly legal) and OS X simply can't deal with them. I filed this as a bug in 10.1 and Apple acknowledged that it's a problem. The fix I suggested is that Disk First Aid should detect and correct these illegal/impossible filenames. ______________________________________________________ James Bucanek From xsa at scmbb.ulb.ac.be Thu Apr 3 23:32:01 2003 From: xsa at scmbb.ulb.ac.be (Xavier Santolaria) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [OT] Rendezvous not working and returning some Login/Password error! Message-ID: <20030404073240.GA4361@puffy.ulb.ac.be> hi list; this might be OffTopic, but I couldn't know a better place to post atm. Thanks for understanding. Here is the "problem" (or at least to me): I'm trying to run Rendezvous on several machines here in the LAN, so we can chichat in our local network. The problem is that when I fire up iChat and want to 'Log into Rendezvous' it returns an error about a wrong login and password. Isn't Rendezvous about network discovery with no l/p needed? I have been looking around but with no luck so far .. :( FYI I do not run any firewall on the machine, I have BSD.pkg installed ... I do not have any AOL account though. Does Rendezvous have something to do with AOL. I do not think so since you can disable it in iChat. If anyone has some clue to my problem, I'll be glad to hear about his workaround :-) TIA regards, - xavier. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/macosx-admin/attachments/20030403/5fc7fd06/attachment.bin From root at nimug.org Fri Apr 4 01:29:01 2003 From: root at nimug.org (Matt Johnston) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 05:33 am, James Bucanek wrote: > fleep@accesstech.com wrote on Friday, April 4, 2003: >> Is there a way that Apple can build this in to the File System as >> well to >> stave off this problem? > > It is built into the OS. I'm convinced that you can't create these > files in OS X These files do get created in OSX just like they do get created in Solaris and other UNIXEN. We had one case of some who created a file with the name '*' Needless to say we pissed ourselves laughing when he called for a restore. M From root at nimug.org Fri Apr 4 01:30:01 2003 From: root at nimug.org (Matt Johnston) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [OT] Rendezvous not working and returning some Login/Password error! In-Reply-To: <20030404073240.GA4361@puffy.ulb.ac.be> Message-ID: On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 08:32 am, Xavier Santolaria wrote: > hi list; > this might be OffTopic, but I couldn't know a better place to post atm. > Thanks for understanding. > > Here is the "problem" (or at least to me): > > I'm trying to run Rendezvous on several machines here in the LAN, > so we can chichat in our local network. The problem is that > when I fire up iChat and want to 'Log into Rendezvous' it returns an > error about a wrong login and password. Isn't Rendezvous about > network discovery with no l/p needed? Rendezvous requires no l/p. We have several machines here using Rendezvous iChat without AIM logins. M From mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de Fri Apr 4 06:02:01 2003 From: mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de (Mark Asbach) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Postscript printing - black boxes In-Reply-To: <806092.1049227126825.JavaMail.vought@mac.com> Message-ID: <7AC92992-6699-11D7-898A-000393449862@post.rwth-aachen.de> Hi Doug, > The problem only happens with monochrome PostScript Level 2 printers, > and I've personally seen it manifested in each major version of OS X. > Printing to our Epson 9600 or QMS 3100 Color Laser is always > successful. This looks more like a PostScript interpreter's problem. Have you consulted your printer's manuals or the GCC support? Which PPD files or printer driver are you using? How did you install the printer? Mark From mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de Fri Apr 4 06:03:02 2003 From: mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de (Mark Asbach) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4230B624-669B-11D7-898A-000393449862@post.rwth-aachen.de> Hi folks, > These files do get created in OSX just like they do get created in > Solaris and other UNIXEN. > We had one case of some who created a file with the name '*' > Needless to say we pissed ourselves laughing when he called for a > restore. I doubt that since the '*' is completely legal and even no problem with shell expansion. > [Marks-PowerBook:~] mark% ls > guest.dmg > [Marks-PowerBook:~] mark% cat >\* > This is a test > ^C > [Marks-PowerBook:~] mark% ls > * guest.dmg > [Marks-PowerBook:~] mark% rm \* > [Marks-PowerBook:~] mark% ls > guest.dmg > [Marks-PowerBook:~] mark% > [Marks-PowerBook:~] mark% cat >\.\. > ..: Is a directory. > [Marks-PowerBook:~] mark% cat >".." > ..: Is a directory. You could even remove '*' with 'rm *' (which would also remove 'guest.dmg' in this case'). cheers, Mark From dcox at americanhotel.com Fri Apr 4 06:07:01 2003 From: dcox at americanhotel.com (Dennis Cox) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [OT] Rendezvous not working and returning some Login/Password error! Message-ID: <049B100ED523D411BA250008C7F9A4688AF8D0@mail1.americanhotel.com> You may want to check out this article by Derrick Story: http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002/08/28/rendezvous.html > ---------- > From: Xavier Santolaria > Sent: Friday, April 4, 2003 1:32 AM > To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > Subject: [OT] Rendezvous not working and returning some > Login/Password error! > > hi list; > this might be OffTopic, but I couldn't know a better place to post atm. > Thanks for understanding. > > Here is the "problem" (or at least to me): > > I'm trying to run Rendezvous on several machines here in the LAN, > so we can chichat in our local network. The problem is that > when I fire up iChat and want to 'Log into Rendezvous' it returns an > > error about a wrong login and password. Isn't Rendezvous about > network discovery with no l/p needed? > > I have been looking around but with no luck so far .. :( > > FYI I do not run any firewall on the machine, I have BSD.pkg > installed ... I do not have any AOL account though. > > Does Rendezvous have something to do with AOL. I do not think so > since you can disable it in iChat. > > > If anyone has some clue to my problem, I'll be glad to hear about his > workaround :-) > > TIA > > regards, > - xavier. > > From subscriber at gloaming.com Fri Apr 4 06:40:02 2003 From: subscriber at gloaming.com (James Bucanek) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Matt Johnston wrote on Friday, April 4, 2003: > >On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 05:33 am, James Bucanek wrote: > >> fleep@accesstech.com wrote on Friday, April 4, 2003: >>> Is there a way that Apple can build this in to the File System as >>> well to >>> stave off this problem? >> >> It is built into the OS. I'm convinced that you can't create these >> files in OS X > >These files do get created in OSX just like they do get created in >Solaris and other UNIXEN. Like I said, I'd love to see a demonstration. I certainly can't figure out how one would do it. >We had one case of some who created a file with the name '*' Unfortunate, but a perfectly legal filename. Along with '?', '[a-z]', '"$USER"', ... ______________________________________________________ James Bucanek From rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu Fri Apr 4 07:09:01 2003 From: rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu (Ross Bogue) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 10:28 AM +0100 4/4/03, Matt Johnston wrote: > >These files do get created in OSX just like they do get created in >Solaris and other UNIXEN. I can't imagine how. The filesystem has sanity checks to prevent two files having the same name. Since all directories already have links named "." and "..", it *should* be impossible to create files with those names. >We had one case of some who created a file with the name '*' Silly as it sounds, that's a perfectly legal filename. The only illegal filenames are ".", "..", and anything containing the characters '/' or NUL. For that matter, "." and ".." are only illegal because they already exist in any non-corrupt directory. Ross -- Dr. Ross Bogue Physics Department Illinois State University From root at nimug.org Fri Apr 4 07:27:01 2003 From: root at nimug.org (Matt Johnston) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: <4230B624-669B-11D7-898A-000393449862@post.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 01:45 pm, Mark Asbach wrote: > Hi folks, > >> These files do get created in OSX just like they do get created in >> Solaris and other UNIXEN. >> We had one case of some who created a file with the name '*' >> Needless to say we pissed ourselves laughing when he called for a >> restore. > > I doubt that since the '*' is completely legal and even no problem > with shell expansion. Yes, certainly. 'rm *' worked fine. The POINT is that there are file names which shouldn't be permitted and yet they are. I dealt with some of these files called ".." back in my Solaris days (96-97) and later in my HP-UX days. They happened. You dealt with them. How they got created - bugger knows - we just had to deal with the consequences. At the end of the day it's just files. From johannes at connected.ch Fri Apr 4 09:28:01 2003 From: johannes at connected.ch (Johannes Vetsch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Resend] Need some hardware advice. Urgent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Am Donnerstag, 03.04.03 um 19:59 Uhr schrieb Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks Inc.: > > On Thursday, Apr 3, 2003, at 07:09 US/Mountain, Cunningham, Chad wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> I'd recommend against IBM... We, and others in the college, have had >> extremely bad luck with IBM SCSI drives lately. In the past year >> we've had >> 3 drive failures in our RAID array (of 10 drives total), as well as >> failures of drives in 2 of our other servers (non raid, just local >> disks). >> We've heard from others in the college of similar problems. >> > When my first IBM Desk Star failed three month ago I was told by a guy in a HD recovery firm that they had 10-15% versa almost none failure between Thailand and Hungary production of the same series (all 3 out of 20 that failed til now are Thai OEM disks and my hardware dealer who said he never had troubles with Desk Star drives sent me - without knowing it, Hungarian produced drives). The guy at recovery firm suspects that it might be a few $ - essential for OEMs - between the two productions origins. In the time working with about 30 PPC 7600 with external LaCie drives (all SCSI at that time) over 4-5 years wiouthout any failure. > How is this compared to other drives? I have been running IBM SCSI > drives for years in my servers, and have not had one failure > (including a bunch of u160 18 gig drives for almost two years straight > in 24/7 web and email servers). I did have 2 Fujitsu u160 18gig > drives fail (out of 3), after less than a year in service... > Fujitsu had some troubles with their drives about one year ago, as far I remember some tech news. > I am just wondering how many people could report similar Seagate or > Quantum/Maxtor or Western Digital experiences... > > best > Chad > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From mrmacman_g4 at mac.com Fri Apr 4 14:16:29 2003 From: mrmacman_g4 at mac.com (Kyle Moffett) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Deleting '..' files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Another possible way to remove it would be: % sudo -H rm -d .Trashes Then reboot in single user mode and run 'fsck -y' to repair any remaining disk errors. rm -d simply unlinks the directory without unlinking any of it's contents. It leaves the disk in an inconsistent state with unreferenced used inodes, but those can be fixed using fsck or fsck_hfs. Cheers, Kyle Moffett -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS/IT/U d- s++:- a16 C++++>$ UB/L/X/*++++(+)>$ P+++(++++)>$ L+++(++) E W++(+) N+++(++) o? K? w---(-) O? M++ V? PS+() PE+(-) Y+ PGP? t+(+++) 5 X R? tv-(--) b++++(++) DI+ D+ G e->++++$ h! !r-- !y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From miles at magicmiles.com Fri Apr 4 15:27:01 2003 From: miles at magicmiles.com (m i l e s) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: OSX: No Route To Host ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Im wondering if someone can answer a question for me. Im trying to get my host to see the IP address of my machine, and the only thing that my host sees is the loopback address: 127.0.0.1 So doing a ping, I discovered that the IP address that I set for the machine (192.168.150.150) can't be seen by PINGing the host. Here's what my settings look like under OS X (running 10.2.4 on TiBook, plenty of ram). Network --> Show::Built-In-Ethernet --> Setting the IP Address at: 192.168.150.150 Setting the SubNet at: 255.255.255.0 Setting the Router at: 192.168.150.150 Setting the DNS Server at: 192.168.150.150 Then open the Network Utility, and PING 192.168.150.150 I get shows NO ROUTE to host. Might you understand what on earth IM doing wrong ? I use these same settings under OS 9 and all works just fine. Sincerely, -- M i l e s Chief Toolbox Architect MagicMiles Software 413.374.5161 im-aol,yahoo,msn: magikmiles Putting your classes, workshops, retreats, services artwork and healing art online in a matter of a few simple clicks. http://www.workshoptoolbox.com/ http://www.healingartstoolbox.com/ http://www.artshoptoolbox.com/ "The wonderful thing about Tiggers Is Tiggers are wonderful things. Their tops are made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of springs! They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun. But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers is Im the only one....Im the only one!" From justin at mac.com Fri Apr 4 15:57:01 2003 From: justin at mac.com (Justin Walker) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: OSX: No Route To Host ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <130680A5-66F9-11D7-BCD0-00306544D642@mac.com> On Friday, Apr 4, 2003, at 15:26 US/Pacific, m i l e s wrote: > Hi, > > Im wondering if someone can answer a question for me. > > Im trying to get my host to see the IP address of my machine, > and the only thing that my host sees is the loopback address: 127.0.0.1 > > So doing a ping, I discovered that the IP address that I set > for the machine (192.168.150.150) can't be seen by > PINGing the host. Here's what my settings look like > under OS X (running 10.2.4 on TiBook, plenty of ram). > > Network --> > Show::Built-In-Ethernet --> > Setting the IP Address at: 192.168.150.150 > Setting the SubNet at: 255.255.255.0 > Setting the Router at: 192.168.150.150 > Setting the DNS Server at: 192.168.150.150 Just to be clear, you are on .150, and the router is .150? I.e., the router is your system? > Then open the Network Utility, and PING 192.168.150.150 > I get shows NO ROUTE to host. To tell for sure, we'd have to see output from: - ifconfig -a - netstat -in - netstat -rn Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | Some people have a mental | horizon of radius zero, and | call it their point of view. | -- David Hilbert *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* From justin at mac.com Fri Apr 4 16:34:01 2003 From: justin at mac.com (Justin Walker) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: OSX: No Route To Host ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2DC7B054-66FE-11D7-BCD0-00306544D642@mac.com> I'm CC'ing the list; this should be in the archives. On Friday, Apr 4, 2003, at 16:25 US/Pacific, m i l e s wrote: > I can tell from what Im seeing from the results here to > these tests below that the settings that I showed you > before are not taking effect. Because the machine is > only seeing the 127.0.0.1 address. But the results to > your question is below. AYup...there's a reason: >>> Network --> >>> Show::Built-In-Ethernet --> >>> Setting the IP Address at: 192.168.150.150 >>> Setting the SubNet at: 255.255.255.0 >>> Setting the Router at: 192.168.150.150 >>> Setting the DNS Server at: 192.168.150.150 >> >> Just to be clear, you are on .150, and the router is .150? I.e., the >> router is your system? > > Yes....mind you this works under OS 9 (yes I know that they > are different animals). > >> To tell for sure, we'd have to see output from: >> - ifconfig -a >> - netstat -in >> - netstat -rn > > IFCONFIG -A::OUTPUT > > +++++++++++++++++++++ [snip] > en0: flags=8863 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::20a:95ff:fe68:7206%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > ether 00:0a:95:68:72:06 > media: autoselect (none) status: inactive And here it is: note that 'en0' is inactive, i.e., the device does not see a link-pulse or other signal from the other end of the cable. Without that, the driver doesn't do anything, so the system follows suit. In short, plug it in, dude! :-} Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | Men are from Earth. | Women are from Earth. | Deal with it. *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* From miles at magicmiles.com Fri Apr 4 16:43:01 2003 From: miles at magicmiles.com (m i l e s) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: OSX: No Route To Host ? In-Reply-To: <2DC7B054-66FE-11D7-BCD0-00306544D642@mac.com> References: <2DC7B054-66FE-11D7-BCD0-00306544D642@mac.com> Message-ID: Justin, Ok...well there it is...DUH. But why does this work under OS 9 with no problems and OS X refuses to do the same....(DUH I know different operating systems). Let me reask this question another way....so how do I get this to work WITHOUT an ethernet cable and hub, so that the link is active! Im not connected to a "host"....because I am THE host! Thanks ahead of time... -- M i l e s Chief Toolbox Architect MagicMiles Software 413.374.5161 im-aol,yahoo,msn: magikmiles Putting your classes, workshops, retreats, services artwork and healing art online in a matter of a few simple clicks. http://www.workshoptoolbox.com/ http://www.healingartstoolbox.com/ http://www.artshoptoolbox.com/ "The wonderful thing about Tiggers Is Tiggers are wonderful things. Their tops are made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of springs! They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun. But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers is Im the only one....Im the only one!" From justin at mac.com Fri Apr 4 17:37:02 2003 From: justin at mac.com (Justin Walker) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: OSX: No Route To Host ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <05C6E508-6707-11D7-BCD0-00306544D642@mac.com> On Friday, Apr 4, 2003, at 16:43 US/Pacific, m i l e s wrote: > Justin, > > Ok...well there it is...DUH. > > But why does this work under OS 9 with no problems > and OS X refuses to do the same....(DUH I know different > operating systems). You got it! The philosophy here is that you don't get a network configured unless you have a network (so to speak). This, in particular, lets the system deal better with mobility; when you detach from a network cable/infrastructure, the system closes up shop (for that interface) so that you don't inadvertently get into trouble later. For example, if you have set up for AUTOMATIC operation (DHCP or BOOTP), when you detach, you lose your claim on the address assigned to you; if you were to keep operating with that same address (e.g., so you could talk to yourself), then on reconnection, should you be so lucky as to get a different address, the connections you used would stop working (especially if your previous address were now in use on another box). In addition, this improves, or at least, lays the groundwork for improving, security: you can close up your laptop, move to another network, and wake up your laptop. If you went from network 192.168.150/24 to 192.168.150/24 at a completely different site, you'd want to know that; if your system just kept the same address and did not notify any other component of the change, you could be compromised (you went from an environment where you trusted the net to one where you shouldn't). This behavior isn't currently part of the Mac OS X scheme, but it was high on the list as a goal while we were designing things. > Let me reask this question another > way....so how do I get this to work WITHOUT an ethernet > cable and hub, so that the link is active! Im not connected to > a "host"....because I am THE host! First, you're never "connected to a host"; you're connected to a network. This is a bit tricky. One issue is that much of today's software is predicated on earlier habits: one machine, one IP address; and always connected. As we move to an environment that includes laptops with multiple interfaces, and the use of IPv6, software is going to have to learn to make use of multiple addresses without driving the user nuts. Right now, it's difficult. One suggestion is to cobble together a loopback plug (an RJ-45 jack that feeds back on itself, transmit to receive and inversely). Another is to use the loopback address (127.0.0.1); that's why it's there. For your tests/demos, you can assign a hostname to that address and use it. This has been discussed on the darwin lists in the past; I think it may have been discussed on this list as well. You could search the archives and see what transpired (I don't recall). Now, all that said, you could try this: I'm guessing that your interface is set up to be configured via DHCP; correct? If so, change it to manual, and see if that works. I just tried it (10.2.4) on a PCI adapter, and unplugging it shows it inactive, but up and running ("ifconfig enx"). Pinging the manually assigned address gets replies. Hope that helps. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | If you're not confused, | You're not paying attention *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* From shoop at iWiring.Net Fri Apr 4 19:05:01 2003 From: shoop at iWiring.Net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: OSX: No Route To Host ? In-Reply-To: References: <2DC7B054-66FE-11D7-BCD0-00306544D642@mac.com> Message-ID: At 7:43 PM -0500 4/4/03, m i l e s wrote: >Justin, > >Ok...well there it is...DUH. > >But why does this work under OS 9 with no problems >and OS X refuses to do the same....(DUH I know different >operating systems). Let me reask this question another >way....so how do I get this to work WITHOUT an ethernet >cable and hub, so that the link is active! Im not connected to >a "host"....because I am THE host! Make an ethernet loopback adapter. Or, since there's no reason to be even doing that, just use lo0 instead. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop shoop@iwiring.net Consulting Internet Architect shoop@mac.com pgp key fingerprint: FAC0 9434 B5A5 24A8 D0AF 12B1 7840 3BE7 3736 DE0B 'In Rahima Kuta [Iraq], a dusty collection of houses, the locals were already celebrating the imminent fall of Saddam Hussein. Fuwad, 32, said: "I have already killed two sheep to celebrate. When he is dead I will kill the five I have left." ' From osten2 at itab.com Sat Apr 5 10:36:01 2003 From: osten2 at itab.com (OSX) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: safe to delete Previous System Folder Message-ID: I survived the upgrade with clean install from 10.1.5 to 10.2.4 and I have a full back up of the disk before the upgrade. The Previous System Folder is 5 gigs I don't really want it in my next back up but I fear I may regret deleting it. It seems safe to me do but I thought I'd check with others who have been through this first. Thanks sam From njriley at uiuc.edu Sat Apr 5 10:42:02 2003 From: njriley at uiuc.edu (Nicholas Riley) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: safe to delete Previous System Folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030405184132.GA2792108@uiuc.edu> On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 10:37:56AM -0800, OSX wrote: > > I survived the upgrade with clean install from 10.1.5 to 10.2.4 and I have a > full back up of the disk before the upgrade. The Previous System Folder is 5 > gigs I don't really want it in my next back up but I fear I may regret > deleting it. It seems safe to me do but I thought I'd check with others who > have been through this first. Make sure there's nothing in there you need. I did a clean install a few weeks ago and keep finding things I need to copy back. -- =Nicholas Riley | Pablo Research Group, Department of Computer Science and Medical Scholars Program, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign From bcox at virtualschool.edu Sun Apr 6 12:06:02 2003 From: bcox at virtualschool.edu (Brad Cox) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Authentication Status problems. Please help Message-ID: I'm just recovering from a hard disk crash on my beige G3 desktop server. OSX and devtools installed and working fine now, as is afs networking to my redhat linux box. The problem is my osx laptop cannot connect. They ping each other fine, but attempting to fileshare gives a long timeout, then "login failed, unknown user, password or logon disabled message". I see no reason this shouldn't "just work", since I've done this numerous times before. Since I'm probably confused, its best to ignore the details that follow and just respond to this paragraph. Namely, what is going on during the "authenticating" phase. Is the sender just comparing passwords, or is a database somehow involved? Must the user have the same uid/gid on both sides? The same long name? The same short name? The same password? Most of all, suggestions for how to get the two osx systems to fileshare? Buffering everything through linux afs is getting to be a real pain. ---confused details--- Maybe the best clue, though I can't see what might be causing it. I can ssh from the laptop to desktop just fine, but from the desktop neither ping nor ssh to the laptop address works. Both sides definitely have ssh enabled. This "authenticating user" step seems new; don't recall seeing that before. Both systems are running Brickhouse, with the desktop server (only) set to share connections via its extra ethernet card, with the built in card used for the cable connection. Although afs to linux is working, I'm suspicious of that too. When the osx server crashed, I tried to reconfigure it as the cable masquerading box by changing its address to the address my other systems use for internet access (192.168.1.2), the usual address of the osx server. From bcox at virtualschool.edu Sun Apr 6 12:35:00 2003 From: bcox at virtualschool.edu (Brad Cox) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Authentication Status problems. Please help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Never mind, I think I've got a handle on it. Assigned the desktop a new unused ip address and the laptop could connect to that. There seems to be something else on the network that is using 192.168.1.2, possibly a misconfigured linux box. I'll track that down next. On Sunday, April 6, 2003, at 03:05 PM, Brad Cox wrote: > I'm just recovering from a hard disk crash on my beige G3 desktop > server. OSX and devtools installed and working fine now, as is afs > networking to my redhat linux box. The problem is my osx laptop cannot > connect. They ping each other fine, but attempting to fileshare gives > a long timeout, then "login failed, unknown user, password or logon > disabled message". > > I see no reason this shouldn't "just work", since I've done this > numerous times before. Since I'm probably confused, its best to ignore > the details that follow and just respond to this paragraph. Namely, > what is going on during the "authenticating" phase. Is the sender just > comparing passwords, or is a database somehow involved? Must the user > have the same uid/gid on both sides? The same long name? The same > short name? The same password? > > Most of all, suggestions for how to get the two osx systems to > fileshare? Buffering everything through linux afs is getting to be a > real pain. > > ---confused details--- > > Maybe the best clue, though I can't see what might be causing it. I > can ssh from the laptop to desktop just fine, but from the desktop > neither ping nor ssh to the laptop address works. Both sides > definitely have ssh enabled. > > This "authenticating user" step seems new; don't recall seeing that > before. > > Both systems are running Brickhouse, with the desktop server (only) > set to share connections via its extra ethernet card, with the built > in card used for the cable connection. > > Although afs to linux is working, I'm suspicious of that too. When the > osx server crashed, I tried to reconfigure it as the cable > masquerading box by changing its address to the address my other > systems use for internet access (192.168.1.2), the usual address of > the osx server. > > From titan at appelschuur.com Mon Apr 7 06:28:01 2003 From: titan at appelschuur.com (Fred van der Ende) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Netboot on network alias Message-ID: Hi I, am trying to get netboot running on a server with two network aliasses on the same interface. Here's my config: iMac running OS X server with only one ethernet interface (no airport) First network configuration is outside network... Second network configuration (alias) is the internal network... NATdeamon is running to provide internal clients outside access over the same ethernet interface DHCP is set to provide internal clients with internal number... So far so good - even NetInfo is binding to the internal network number provided by DHCP. But when I try to boot a client into NetBoot, the server will not react. When viewing the log I can see that it gets the proper DHCP request, assigns an internal network nr. and starts the TFTP process, at which point the spinning globe on the client disappears and it starts to boot, but will never stop trying... Furthermore there are no errors in the log, it just keeps on trying... So I figured that the client couldn't find it's NFS Netboot share because of the fact that it is on the second (alias) subnet? Because when I swap the order of both network configurations it NetBoots like a charm! So the question is; can one force the NetBoot client to look for the NFS share on the second (alias) subnet? Regards Fred From janos.lobb at yale.edu Mon Apr 7 12:30:01 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: AS-400 emulation Message-ID: Hi, If I log into an AS 400 via terminal, how can I activate and use all the function keys of above F15 ? Like F22 for printer selection ? Thanks ahead, J?nos ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From gerhard.ramsebner at chello.at Mon Apr 7 14:20:01 2003 From: gerhard.ramsebner at chello.at (Gerhard Ramsebner) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Fwd: Re: mountpoints] Message-ID: <3E91EB3C.5060308@chello.at> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /mailman/archive/macosx-admin/attachments/20030407/1f044d21/attachment.html From mbartosh at mac.com Mon Apr 7 14:50:01 2003 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Netboot on network alias In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 3:28 PM +0200 4/7/03, Fred van der Ende wrote: >So I figured that the client couldn't find it's NFS Netboot share >because of the fact that it is on the second (alias) subnet? >Because when I swap the order of both network configurations it >NetBoots like a charm! When two IP's live on the same subnet, all outgoing connections will be made via the primary interface, regardless which interface they came in on. This might or might not have something to do with your issue. -- http://www.4am-media.com Mac OS X Consulting and Training Michael Bartosh mbartosh@4am-media.com 303.517.0272 Denver, CO "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." - -- Nietzsche Think Different. From mbartosh at mac.com Mon Apr 7 15:00:02 2003 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: [Fwd: Re: mountpoints] In-Reply-To: <3E91EB3C.5060308@chello.at> References: <3E91EB3C.5060308@chello.at> Message-ID: At 11:18 PM +0200 4/7/03, Gerhard Ramsebner wrote: >I repartitioned the disk just the other way round and everything >works as expected. (disk0s11 /, disk0s10 /Volumes/ps1, disk0s9 >/Volumes/user1) You can't gurantee that disk0s10 will always be disk0s10. It might be disk1s10 or disk2s10, depending on the order in which iokit discovers the devices (iirc). -- http://www.4am-media.com Mac OS X Consulting and Training Michael Bartosh mbartosh@4am-media.com 303.517.0272 Denver, CO "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." - -- Nietzsche Think Different. From shoop at iWiring.Net Mon Apr 7 19:02:01 2003 From: shoop at iWiring.Net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: AS-400 emulation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 3:32 PM -0400 4/7/03, J?nos L?bb wrote: >Hi, > >If I log into an AS 400 via terminal, how can I activate and use all >the function keys of above F15 ? Like F22 for printer selection ? An AS/400 is a computer system. You make no reference to what you're trying to connect to once there. In general though it sounds like you're looking for some sort of IBM Terminal Emulator, of which Terminal makes no claims to be. Buy a suitable Terminal Emulation package for your requirements. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop shoop@iwiring.net Consulting Internet Architect shoop@mac.com pgp key fingerprint: FAC0 9434 B5A5 24A8 D0AF 12B1 7840 3BE7 3736 DE0B 'In Rahima Kuta [Iraq], a dusty collection of houses, the locals were already celebrating the imminent fall of Saddam Hussein. Fuwad, 32, said: "I have already killed two sheep to celebrate. When he is dead I will kill the five I have left." ' From jwelch at aer.com Mon Apr 7 19:54:00 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: AS-400 emulation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 04/07/2003 22:01, "Dan Shoop" wrote: >> If I log into an AS 400 via terminal, how can I activate and use all >> the function keys of above F15 ? Like F22 for printer selection ? > > An AS/400 is a computer system. You make no reference to what you're > trying to connect to once there. > > In general though it sounds like you're looking for some sort of IBM > Terminal Emulator, of which Terminal makes no claims to be. Buy a > suitable Terminal Emulation package for your requirements. It depends on the quality of the emulator. Are you using straight 5250, tn5250, telnet...? john -- AppleScript is what Macs are for. The rest is just meat tricks. john c welch From moetteli.bulk at bluewin.ch Tue Apr 8 06:06:02 2003 From: moetteli.bulk at bluewin.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Philip_M=F6tteli?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Mac OS X Compatibility List Message-ID: Hi I would like to know, if an old PowerMacintosh 8200/120 would work with Mac OS X, but I can't find any list, where I could verfiy that. Does anybody know of such a list? Thanks Phil From rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu Tue Apr 8 06:07:00 2003 From: rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu (Ross Bogue) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: AS-400 emulation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 10:01 PM -0400 4/7/03, Dan Shoop wrote: > >In general though it sounds like you're looking for some sort of IBM >Terminal Emulator, of which Terminal makes no claims to be. Buy a >suitable Terminal Emulation package for your requirements. The free Brown University TN3270 emulator has been ported to OSX. The beta is at ftp://ftp.brown.edu/pub/mac/tn3270/tn3270_X_3.0b9.dmg Ross -- Dr. Ross Bogue Physics Department Illinois State University From waltd at wdstudio.com Tue Apr 8 06:11:03 2003 From: waltd at wdstudio.com (Walter Lee Davis) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Mac OS X Compatibility List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <746A88AC-69C3-11D7-84FC-000393C48A5C@wdstudio.com> Have a look over at http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/ -- you might get lucky. I have had good luck using this utility with various G3-upgraded beige Macs. Walter On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Philip M?tteli wrote: > Hi > > > I would like to know, if an old PowerMacintosh 8200/120 would work > with Mac OS X, but I can't find any list, where I could verfiy that. > > Does anybody know of such a list? > > > Thanks > Phil > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From PERBIX at lmsd.org Tue Apr 8 06:48:01 2003 From: PERBIX at lmsd.org (Perbix, Michael) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: AS-400 emulation Message-ID: <7079B5F1260FD041A2BBA6D180A0A0613E4AB1@msadmin.lmsd.org> We currently use HOSTFRONT to give access to our AS400 server via a web page that uses JAVA or ACTIVEX. Basically it opens a display and printer session in a web browser, allowing you to customize keymapings and what not. This is of course for a larger scale then just a few clients. Only select few actually use the IBM client anymore here. -Mike _________________________________________ Michael Perbix Lower Merion School District Telecommunications Specialist (610) 645-1964 phone (610) 896-2019 fax > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross Bogue [mailto:rbogue@phy.ilstu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:06 AM > To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > Subject: Re: AS-400 emulation > > > At 10:01 PM -0400 4/7/03, Dan Shoop wrote: > > > >In general though it sounds like you're looking for some sort of IBM > >Terminal Emulator, of which Terminal makes no claims to be. Buy a > >suitable Terminal Emulation package for your requirements. > > > > The free Brown University TN3270 emulator has been ported to OSX. > The beta is at > > > ftp://ftp.brown.edu/pub/mac/tn3270/tn3270_X_3.0b9.dmg > > > Ross > > > > -- > Dr. Ross Bogue > Physics Department > Illinois State University > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From PERBIX at lmsd.org Tue Apr 8 09:29:01 2003 From: PERBIX at lmsd.org (Perbix, Michael) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: 15" White iMac and OSX Message-ID: <7079B5F1260FD041A2BBA6D180A0A0613E4ABF@msadmin.lmsd.org> I have had two machines so far all act the same. These came with 10.1.5 on them out of the box, I re-did them with 10.2 (updated them actually) and worked on them testing software. I then went to clear the slate and re-install 10.2 and erased the drive first, re-installed from my 10.2 CD's, the installation went fine, but then the installer quits the machine sits at a blue screen with the pointer and that's it. I tried erasing the drive beforehand with the Drive Utility, I zapped pram (both with keyboard keys and via OF) and I am stumpififed. We had these machines imaged with an OSX image (using CCC and Netrestore) before I did this...could that be doing something to the HD? I erased the drives, but did not zero them out, that is my next step... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. -Mike _________________________________________ Michael Perbix Lower Merion School District Telecommunications Specialist (610) 645-1964 phone (610) 896-2019 fax From janos.lobb at yale.edu Tue Apr 8 11:36:03 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Unable to print from OSX Message-ID: <66E3B05A-69F1-11D7-B8BB-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> Hi, Earlier I asked about a problem my Chairman has with printing. He is able to print from classic fine. He is unable to print from OSX side at all. Neither from Word or from TextEdit. Today I got the time to look around his machine and in his /var/log/caps/error_log I found these entries for today. Please note that the unix time set back happened after a shutdown before syncing with the time server had a chance. I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:29 -0400] Job 165 queued on 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:29 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 12722) for job 165. I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:29 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 12723) for job 165. I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:29 -0400] Started backend /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 12724) for job 165. E [08/Apr/2003:13:20:30 -0400] PID 12722 crashed on signal 10! I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:33 -0400] Saving printers.conf... I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:33 -0400] Printer 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' stopped by ''. I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:44 -0400] Job 166 queued on 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Saving printers.conf... I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 12726) for job 166. I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 12727) for job 166. I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Started backend /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 12728) for job 166. I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Saving printers.conf... I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Printer 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' started by ''. E [08/Apr/2003:13:20:55 -0400] PID 12726 crashed on signal 10! W [08/Apr/2003:13:20:56 -0400] Unknown PAP packet of type 209 I [08/Apr/2003:13:44:44 -0400] Job 167 queued on 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. I [08/Apr/2003:13:44:44 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 13190) for job 167. I [08/Apr/2003:13:44:44 -0400] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 13191) for job 167. I [08/Apr/2003:13:44:44 -0400] Started backend /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 13192) for job 167. E [08/Apr/2003:13:44:45 -0400] PID 13190 crashed on signal 10! E [08/Apr/2003:13:45:57 -0400] Scheduler shutting down due to SIGTERM. / Here the machine was cold started / I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Listening to 7f000001:631 I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Configured for up to 100 clients. I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Allowing up to 100 client connections per host. E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "pdftops" cannot be found! E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "imagetops" cannot be found! E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "imagetoraster" cannot be found! I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] LoadPPDs: Read "/private/etc/cups/ppds.dat", 12 PPDs... I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] LoadPPDs: No new or changed PPDs... I [31/Dec/1969:19:01:07 -0500] Job 168 queued on 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. I [31/Dec/1969:19:01:07 -0500] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 482) for job 168. I [31/Dec/1969:19:01:07 -0500] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 483) for job 168. I [31/Dec/1969:19:01:07 -0500] Started backend /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 484) for job 168. E [31/Dec/1969:19:01:09 -0500] PID 482 crashed on signal 10! W [31/Dec/1969:19:01:10 -0500] Unknown PAP packet of type 209 I [31/Dec/1969:19:02:02 -0500] Job 169 queued on 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. I [31/Dec/1969:19:02:02 -0500] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 493) for job 169. I [31/Dec/1969:19:02:02 -0500] Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 494) for job 169. I [31/Dec/1969:19:02:02 -0500] Started backend /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 495) for job 169. E [31/Dec/1969:19:02:03 -0500] PID 493 crashed on signal 10! W [31/Dec/1969:19:02:04 -0500] Unknown PAP packet of type 129 Looks like this process - Started filter /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops - is crashing on signal 10 (?!) all the time when he wants to print. The related entry in the system.log looks like: Apr 8 13:20:29 JSMG4 crashdump: Couldn't find or create: /var/root/Library/Logs/CrashReporter Apr 8 13:20:29 JSMG4 crashdump: Failed to open /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/cgpdftops.crash.log errno: 13 Apr 8 13:20:29 JSMG4 crashdump: Unable to write crash report to /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/cgpdftops.crash.log for uid: 1 Date/Time: 2003-04-08 13:20:29 -0400 OS Version: 10.2.4 (Build 6I32) Host: JSMG4.local. Command: cgpdftops PID: 12722 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000028 Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x90015ac0 in fseeko #1 0x900345e0 in rewind #2 0x91f311ac in ps_EndPage #3 0x91f30d0c in ps_DonePage #4 0x937b24d8 in dlr_Action #5 0x00003e4c in 0x3e4c #6 0x00003418 in 0x3418 #7 0x00003298 in 0x3298 PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x90015ac0 srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x90015a8c ctr: 0x90015a60 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000001 r1: 0xbfffcbf0 r2: 0x00000000 r3: 0x00000000 r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x00000000 r6: 0x00000000 r7: 0x61676553 r8: 0x00047010 r9: 0xa0000cc4 r10: 0x00000000 r11: 0xa00047ac r12: 0x90015a60 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 Any good idea what causes it and how to fix it ? Thanks ahead, J?nos ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From mellis at ellissoftworks.com Tue Apr 8 12:18:01 2003 From: mellis at ellissoftworks.com (Michael Ellis) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: 15" White iMac and OSX In-Reply-To: <200304081901.h38J1CL27779@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: It sounds to me like the 10.2 CD you are using might not include the drivers for your iMacs. This can happen if the 10.2 CD was released BEFORE the iMac was (in which case, the drivers for your iMac may not have existed when the CD was pressed). As a sanity check, I recommend you try a newer 10.2 CD (one from any newer Mac should work). Good luck. -Mike Ellis On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 03:01 PM, macosx-admin-request@omnigroup.com wrote: > > I have had two machines so far all act the same. These came with > 10.1.5 on them out of the box, I re-did them with 10.2 (updated them > actually) and worked on them testing software. I then went to clear > the slate and re-install 10.2 and erased the drive first, re-installed > from my 10.2 CD's, the installation went fine, but then the installer > quits the machine sits at a blue screen with the pointer and that's > it. > > I tried erasing the drive beforehand with the Drive Utility, I zapped > pram (both with keyboard keys and via OF) and I am stumpififed. We > had these machines imaged with an OSX image (using CCC and Netrestore) > before I did this...could that be doing something to the HD? I erased > the drives, but did not zero them out, that is my next step... > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. > > -Mike > > ========================= Michael F. Ellis President Ellis Softworks Inc. ---------- Phone: (941) 713-0361 Email: mellis@ellissoftworks.com Web: http://www.ellissoftworks.com From titan at appelschuur.com Tue Apr 8 13:03:03 2003 From: titan at appelschuur.com (Fred van der Ende) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Netboot on network alias In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3BD83EA9-69FD-11D7-A50F-000393019466@appelschuur.com> Michael Bartosh heeft op maandag, 7 apr 2003 om 23:49 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven: > At 3:28 PM +0200 4/7/03, Fred van der Ende wrote: >> So I figured that the client couldn't find it's NFS Netboot share >> because of the fact that it is on the second (alias) subnet? >> Because when I swap the order of both network configurations it >> NetBoots like a charm! > > When two IP's live on the same subnet, all outgoing connections will > be made via the primary interface, regardless which interface they > came in on. > > This might or might not have something to do with your issue. You're right, I am aware of this, but this is not the issue. The two IP's are on different subnet's and I need the NetBoot NFS client to mount it's share through the second interface (internal subnet). The same subnet the client is on as assigned by the DHCP server during the first part of the NetBoot proces that's working allright.... Strange thing is that the client is trying to locate it's NFS server through the first interface that's outside the local subnet... However when I use NFS manager I can mount the share by hand when pointing to the right internal IP address, so what I need is some config to force NFS during NetBoot to look at the right IP... Fred From ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu Tue Apr 8 13:15:00 2003 From: ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu (Cunningham, Chad) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: printing options Message-ID: I'm having a bad time trying to get printer options to show up. We've had our printing set up using a network cups server, which has been around longer than the 10.2 macs. Unfortunately, it seems doing so is not quite ready for prime time in OSX (can't print landscape, embedded fonts don't print, etc). So we're switching everyone back to setting up printers via appletalk. For some reason, after doing this we get no printer options. The print dialogue looks lonely and barren, with just the standard options (Copies & Pages, Output, Summary). I go in to print center and select the proper PPD, still no go. I've downloaded the latest PPD's and installed them, still no go. We have mostly Lexmark printers (all T622's) and a few HP's, I don't get the options on any of them. Oddly enough, one person here does have printer options in the print dialogue window. I don't know how, he hasn't had our standard setup and upgraded from 10.1 rather than a clean install of 10.2 all our other macs have. I have no idea what is different on his setup, the same printers are set up via appletalk using the same PPD's. I've tried copying his /etc/cups/, /System/Library/Printers/, and /Library/Printers over to a test machine. No dice. Anyone experienced anything like this? -- Chad Cunningham ccunning@math.ohio-state.edu "Well, once again my friend, we find that science is a two-headed beast. One head is nice, it gives us aspirin and other modern conveniences,...but the other head of science is bad! Oh beware the other head of science, Arthur, it bites!" From ryan.suarez at sheridanc.on.ca Tue Apr 8 13:48:02 2003 From: ryan.suarez at sheridanc.on.ca (Ryan Suarez) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: launching perl script from aqua interface? References: <200304081901.h38J1GL27811@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <3E933502.27BDCE09@sheridanc.on.ca> Hello Admins, Quick question: I have a perl script which i'd like users to run by simply clicking on its link from the dock of an OSX 10.2.4 client. It runs fine from a shell, outputting some text. However, it does nothing if I click on the script from the dock. Double clicking on the script from the aqua interface generates this error: There is no default application specified to open the document "script.pl". [Choose Application] | [OK] How do I make this happen? much appreciated, Ryan From ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu Tue Apr 8 13:55:01 2003 From: ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu (Cunningham, Chad) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: launching perl script from aqua interface? In-Reply-To: <3E933502.27BDCE09@sheridanc.on.ca> Message-ID: You can either use DropScript (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10459) or create a simple AppleScript studio app to run it. On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Ryan Suarez wrote: > Hello Admins, > > Quick question: > > I have a perl script which i'd like users to run by simply clicking on its link from the dock of an OSX 10.2.4 client. It runs fine from a shell, outputting some text. > > However, it does nothing if I click on the script from the dock. Double clicking on the script from the aqua interface generates this error: > > There is no default application specified to open the document "script.pl". > [Choose Application] | [OK] > > How do I make this happen? > > much appreciated, > Ryan > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > -- Chad Cunningham ccunning@math.ohio-state.edu "Well, once again my friend, we find that science is a two-headed beast. One head is nice, it gives us aspirin and other modern conveniences,...but the other head of science is bad! Oh beware the other head of science, Arthur, it bites!" From nbfa at umich.edu Tue Apr 8 14:23:03 2003 From: nbfa at umich.edu (Noah B F Abrahamson) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: CUPS, IPP, HP and a lot of junk Message-ID: <363E9014-6A08-11D7-A4AC-000393BCBD36@umich.edu> Hello, all; Here's a confounding situation that I'm not able to resolve -- or rather, I just don't know where to look for the answer. Situation: I have a Mac OS X 10.2.3 client configured to print directly to an HP 8100 printer via IPP. Both the factory issued PPD and the ES CUPS-distributed PPD have been tried, but when printing bitmapped images (versus vector) from most Carbon CFM applications (eg, Photoshop), the printer spits out junk. Vector is just fine. Looking at the CUPS error_log, one can see that the pictwpstops filter is being called; that's expected -- Carbon CFM apps still send PS wrapped up in a PICT. Cocoa apps, of course, use a cgpdftops filter (what's the cg stand for? Cocoa graphics? Core?). Permissions are proper for both the PPDs and the filters. I can't seem to figure this out. Finally, I can install ESP Ghostscript + Gimp-print and have the jobs sent pictwpstops --> pstoraster --> rastertoprinter but the only OK PPD from Gimp-print is for an HP 5si and even then, you get, well, a non-PostScript, rasterized image that's low res. Has/can anyone reproduce this? It also happens on an HP 8150, FWIW. Thanks (oh, and please respond to this addy, too, as I get the digest). Noah ----------------------- Noah B F Abrahamson ITCS, Sites Mac University of Michigan From mbartosh at mac.com Tue Apr 8 14:43:01 2003 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: launching perl script from aqua interface? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 4:54 PM -0400 4/8/03, Cunningham, Chad wrote: >You can either use DropScript >(http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10459) or create a >simple AppleScript studio app to run it. Actually, it gets simpler. ApSS is realy overkill. A simple Applescript (do shell script) will fix things. Or you could just append .command to the filename. This makes it double-clickable- with the side effect that the terminal will open up. -- http://www.4am-media.com Mac OS X Consulting and Training Michael Bartosh mbartosh@4am-media.com 303.517.0272 Denver, CO "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." - -- Nietzsche Think Different. From general at maccrafters.com Tue Apr 8 18:45:01 2003 From: general at maccrafters.com (Floyd Resler) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Apache Screwed Up Message-ID: Help! I really screwed Apache up. I tried adding WebDAV authentication to a directory. I wanted to allow only certain users to author the directory. After trying to figure out how to add users to the listbox (there is no Add button), I opened up the Workgroup Manager and try to drag users from there to the listbox and that worked. So, I restarted Apache and it failed with a Segmentation fault in line 171. No matter what I tried, I couldn't get Apache to start. So, I wanted to look at httpd_macosxserver.conf in BBEdit. I had to change the permission of the file to allow all users to read. I was unable to determine the cause of the failure to start. So, I restarted the server, forgetting to reset the permissions of httpd_macosxserver.conf. When the server restarted, httpd_macosxserver.conf got deleted. From what I can tell, it moved the file to httpd_macosxserver.conf.bak. So, I copied that file to httpd_macosxserver.conf. However, each time I restart it deletes the file. I have managed to get my site back up by commenting out the include for httpd_macosxserver.conf. However, I'd rather not do this. Anyone have any idea on what I screwed up and how to fix it? Thanks! Floyd From addi at apple.is Wed Apr 9 03:13:01 2003 From: addi at apple.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arn=F3r_Kristj=E1nsson?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: httpd.conf and virtual hosts Message-ID: I'm trying to figure out how to make apache log the virtual host being accessed into access_log. This has probably been covered here before, but can someone refresh me? I followed the directions in http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20020715085959338 even though it doesn't talk about the exact same thing. this is what a bunch of line from access_log look like after this mod: asc2-ip010-lan.wmis.net - - [09/Apr/2003:09:52:05 +0000] "GET /pafiledb.php?action=category&id=2&start=100&sortby=name HTTP/1.1" 200 18873 asc2-ip010-lan.wmis.net - - [09/Apr/2003:09:52:07 +0000] "GET /inc/xa.css HTTP/1.1" 304 - asc2-ip010-lan.wmis.net - - [09/Apr/2003:09:52:21 +0000] "GET /pafiledb.php?action=file&id=28 HTTP/1.1" 200 8458 asc2-ip010-lan.wmis.net - - [09/Apr/2003:09:52:23 +0000] "GET /styles/default/images/rate.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 194 asc2-ip010-lan.wmis.net - - [09/Apr/2003:09:52:23 +0000] "GET /styles/default/images/download.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 70 asc2-ip010-lan.wmis.net - - [09/Apr/2003:09:52:23 +0000] "GET /styles/default/images/email.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 217 From ryanwilcox at mac.com Wed Apr 9 08:41:01 2003 From: ryanwilcox at mac.com (Ryan Wilcox) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: httpd.conf and virtual hosts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/9/03, at 10:12 AM, Arn?r Kristj?nsson said: >I'm trying to figure out how to make apache log the virtual host being >accessed into access_log. This has probably been covered here before, >but can someone refresh me? Add a %h to your CustomLog directives. See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_log_config.html#format for more details (or the OReilly Apache book) HTH, -Ryan Wilcox --------------------------------------------------------------------- Wilcox Design: Understanding Data http://www.wilcoxd.com From stevebyan at mac.com Wed Apr 9 09:28:01 2003 From: stevebyan at mac.com (Steve Byan) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: AFP over Ethertalk? In-Reply-To: <200304081901.h38J1BL27763@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <0E767DC0-6AA8-11D7-9802-00306548867E@mac.com> Has anyone had any success in supporting old-style Apple File Protocol over Ethertalk? I've got some old machines still running 7.5.5 and 7.6 that I'd like to serve from OS X Server 10.2.4. I've tried enabling the hidden switch via netinfo, and have gotten a 7.5.5 machine to mount and browse a share served by Mac OS X Server, but copying files results in a hang after moving a little data. Anyone have a clue whether anyone is working on fixing this in the open-source version Darwin? I don't know AFP, but if it's something obvious, I could hack on the source and maybe make some progress. Regards, -Steve -------- Steve Byan or From stevebyan at mac.com Wed Apr 9 10:19:01 2003 From: stevebyan at mac.com (Steve Byan) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: AFP over Ethertalk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <32B41EF8-6AAF-11D7-9802-00306548867E@mac.com> On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 12:47 PM, Richard Glaser wrote: > You can use a product like "ShareWay IP" > http://www2.opendoor.com/shareway/ > > I created an old document that still is useful and might be > informative. > > See url: > http://www.macos.utah.edu/Documentation/AT_Migration/AT_Migration.html Thanks Richard. In looking over your very helpful AT Migration document, I see that there are AppleTalk clients that supports AFP-over-IP on 7.5.5 and on 7.6. I wasn't aware of this - it's exactly what I need, since I'm only looking to use my older machines as clients of AFP served from my OS X server. The download links have moved from those in your document; AppleShare Client 3.7.4 (for 7.5.5) is now at: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/ Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Networking- Communications/AppleShare_Client/AppleShare_Client_3.7.4.img.bin and AppleShare Client 3.8.3 is available through links at: http://docs.info.apple.com/ article.html?artnum=58360&SaveKCWindowURL=http%3A%2F%2Fkbase.info.apple. com%2Fcgi- bin%2FWebObjects%2Fkbase.woa%2Fwa%2FSaveKCToHomePage&searchMode=Expert&k bhost=kbase.info.apple.com&showButton=false&randomValue=100&showSurvey=f alse&sessionID=anonymous|168206377 -------- Steve Byan or From mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de Wed Apr 9 11:08:01 2003 From: mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de (Mark Asbach) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: CUPS, IPP, HP and a lot of junk In-Reply-To: <363E9014-6A08-11D7-A4AC-000393BCBD36@umich.edu> Message-ID: Hi Noah, > Situation: I have a Mac OS X 10.2.3 client configured to print > directly to an HP 8100 printer via IPP. Both the factory issued PPD > and the ES CUPS-distributed PPD have been tried, but when printing > bitmapped images (versus vector) from most Carbon CFM applications > (eg, Photoshop), the printer spits out junk. Vector is just fine. I've had similar problems with Classic applications that could print directly to postscript printers (RagTime, Adobe Apps). With the Classic print dialog one could select "7 Bit Postscript", which solved the problem for me. > I can't seem to figure this out. I'd look for 8-Bit issues. (Sorry, didn't experience your exact problem.) Mark From heavyboots2k at yahoo.com Wed Apr 9 11:42:02 2003 From: heavyboots2k at yahoo.com (Eric Taylor) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Blue screen after 10.2 install In-Reply-To: <200304081901.h38J19L27751@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <20030409184157.53426.qmail@web11401.mail.yahoo.com> >worked on them testing software. I then went to clear the slate and >re-install 10.2 and erased the drive first, re-installed from my 10.2 CD's, the >installation went fine, but then the installer quits the machine sits at a >blue screen with the pointer and that's it. This is a sort of weird idea, but I've noticed that just because the computer eventually reboots doesn't necessarily mean the 10.2 install went well. Have you watched the install all the way through to make sure it got to the "Computer will reboot in 30 seconds" dialog? I've had several computers of a certain vintage that seem to have extreme trouble reading from the factory Jaguar CD. The end result is an incomplete install with the installer just rebooting somewhere in the middle after erroring out reading the CD--but it gives no indication it had trouble reading. The only clue is that instead of reaching the end of the thermometer and throwing the "Reboot" dialog, it just restarts somewhere mid-install. My eventual solution was to reimage the CDs onto CDR media, which the drives in those computers apparently deal better with... HTH, Eric. ===== ... I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "I drank what?!?" -Real Genius, 1985 heavyboots2k@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From hideg at saintmarys.edu Wed Apr 9 12:28:01 2003 From: hideg at saintmarys.edu (Steve Hideg) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Workgroup Manager errors Message-ID: Hello. I'm just starting to monkey with Mac OS X server 10.2.4 using an evaluation copy. I'm trying to use Workgroup Manager, but the application keeps reporting errors and eventually quitting. I see these error messages whether I configure the server (using Open Directory Assistant) to get its info from elsewhere or to be a standalone server. The error messages I'm seeing are "Error of type -14130". This comes up repeatedly, and the messages reference different lines of different source code files: Line 1955 of PMMUGSearchController.mm Line 369 of UserBasicPlugin.mm Line 627 of UserGroupPlugin.mm Line 140 of UserGroupPlugin.mm Line 459 of UserGroupPluginView.mm I've searched Apple's Knowledge Base, macosxlabs.org, and did a google search about this to no avail. Does anybody out there have any idea how to fix this? Thanks. ++$Steve; -- ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Hideg Integrated Technologies Programmer Saint Mary's College, Notre Dame IN ____________________________________________________________________ I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left. From janos.lobb at yale.edu Wed Apr 9 13:12:02 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy Message-ID: Hi, I copied a directory - containing other nested directories inside over to my machine. Now one of the subdirectory says about itself that it is a package. Via Terminal it still looks and behaves like a directory - showing everything inside. However Finder does not give the little flipping triangle and if I double click on it is says that "There is no default application specified to open the document "Applications". How can I make it back to a normal folder ? /I have to set Oracle home and that thing is inside this folder/ Thanks ahead, J?nos P.S. From Terminal everything looks normal. [path_246:brio/oracle installation/oracle] janos% ls -l total 48 drwxrwxrwx 8 janos staff 272 Oct 2 2001 Applications drwxrwxrwx 4 janos staff 136 Oct 2 2001 Database -rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 0 Oct 3 2001 Icon? drwxrwxrwx 28 janos staff 952 Oct 2 2001 Installer drwxrwxrwx 19 janos staff 646 Oct 2 2001 Libraries drwxrwxrwx 32 janos staff 1088 Oct 2 2001 Messages drwxrwxrwx 7 janos staff 238 Oct 2 2001 Network -rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 164 Oct 2 2001 config.ora -rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 136 Apr 26 1995 hosts -rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 95 Apr 26 1995 services [path_246:brio/oracle installation/oracle] janos% cd applications [path_246:oracle installation/oracle/applications] janos% ls -l total 72 drwxrwxrwx 8 janos staff 272 Apr 9 14:31 Database Utilities drwxrwxrwx 7 janos staff 238 Apr 9 14:31 Graphical Administration Tools drwxrwxrwx 7 janos staff 238 Apr 9 14:31 Networking -rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 0 Apr 9 14:31 ResetAlias drwxrwxrwx 6 janos staff 204 Apr 9 14:31 SQL*Plus -rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 0 Apr 9 14:31 Set Oracle Home ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From jared at 23x.net Wed Apr 9 14:00:00 2003 From: jared at 23x.net (Jared ''Danger'' Earle) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0CA1C3C5-6ACE-11D7-A98E-000A2791CF7C@23x.net> On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 10:15 pm, J?nos L?bb wrote: > How can I make it back to a normal folder ? /I have to set Oracle > home and that thing is inside this folder/ Have you tried right-clicking on it and selecting 'view package contents'? -- Jared Earle, Nightfall Games, jared@23x.net - http://www.23x.net "There is no SPORK" From osxsrv-omnigroup at biermann.org Wed Apr 9 14:07:00 2003 From: osxsrv-omnigroup at biermann.org (philipp biermann) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Check out: http://www.instantinteractive.com/download/freeware/Instant%20Package.sit its a CMM for OS9. Allows to convert a folder to a package and vice versa. >Hi, > >I copied a directory - containing other nested directories inside >over to my machine. Now one of the subdirectory says about itself >that it is a package. Via Terminal it still looks and behaves like >a directory - showing everything inside. However Finder does not >give the little flipping triangle and if I double click on it is >says that "There is no default application specified to open the >document "Applications". > >How can I make it back to a normal folder ? /I have to set Oracle >home and that thing is inside this folder/ > >Thanks ahead, >J?nos >P.S. From Terminal everything looks normal. >[path_246:brio/oracle installation/oracle] janos% ls -l >total 48 >drwxrwxrwx 8 janos staff 272 Oct 2 2001 Applications >drwxrwxrwx 4 janos staff 136 Oct 2 2001 Database >-rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 0 Oct 3 2001 Icon? >drwxrwxrwx 28 janos staff 952 Oct 2 2001 Installer >drwxrwxrwx 19 janos staff 646 Oct 2 2001 Libraries >drwxrwxrwx 32 janos staff 1088 Oct 2 2001 Messages >drwxrwxrwx 7 janos staff 238 Oct 2 2001 Network >-rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 164 Oct 2 2001 config.ora >-rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 136 Apr 26 1995 hosts >-rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 95 Apr 26 1995 services >[path_246:brio/oracle installation/oracle] janos% cd applications >[path_246:oracle installation/oracle/applications] janos% ls -l >total 72 >drwxrwxrwx 8 janos staff 272 Apr 9 14:31 Database Utilities >drwxrwxrwx 7 janos staff 238 Apr 9 14:31 Graphical Administration Tools >drwxrwxrwx 7 janos staff 238 Apr 9 14:31 Networking >-rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 0 Apr 9 14:31 ResetAlias >drwxrwxrwx 6 janos staff 204 Apr 9 14:31 SQL*Plus >-rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 0 Apr 9 14:31 Set Oracle Home > > > >---------------------------------------------- >Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. >(S. Lem: His Master Voice) >_______________________________________________ >MacOSX-admin mailing list >MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From janssen at parc.com Wed Apr 9 17:30:00 2003 From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: automatic program launch upon filesystem mount? Message-ID: <03Apr9.172850pdt."58611"@synergy1.parc.xerox.com> Is there any way to automatically start a program residing on a filesystem automatically upon mount, either as part of the mount process or immediately after? Bill From epeyton at epicware.com Wed Apr 9 17:49:01 2003 From: epeyton at epicware.com (Eric Peyton) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: automatic program launch upon filesystem mount? In-Reply-To: <03Apr9.172850pdt."58611"@synergy1.parc.xerox.com> References: <03Apr9.172850pdt."58611"@synergy1.parc.xerox.com> Message-ID: <25CACED8-6AEE-11D7-B48D-000393D42984@epicware.com> Nope. OS X provides no facility for such. For Disk Images you can do things like SLAs, but those don't apply to other volumes. I'm sure you could write a script that watches for mounts and then does something. May I ask why you are trying to do this? There may be a better way. Eric On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 7:28PM, Bill Janssen wrote: > Is there any way to automatically start a program residing on a > filesystem automatically upon mount, either as part of the mount > process or immediately after? > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From janssen at parc.com Wed Apr 9 18:41:01 2003 From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: automatic program launch upon filesystem mount? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Apr 2003 17:48:29 PDT." <25CACED8-6AEE-11D7-B48D-000393D42984@epicware.com> Message-ID: <03Apr9.184032pdt."58611"@synergy1.parc.xerox.com> Eric, I'd like to build a filesystem that is 'guarded' by a daemon that watches accesses (perhaps an NFS server), and lives in an external FireWire (i.e., portable) disk. The 'outer' filesystem contains the code for the daemon, plus an inner encrypted filesystem where the real data lives. What I'd like to have happen is that when the drive is connected to a Mac, the daemon code is read and the daemon started, which then in turn gives access to the inner encrypted filesystem. Perhaps I'm mis-concentrating on the mount aspect; perhaps there's a way to do this in the FireWire initialization code? But even then it has to read the bits of the daemon off the disk, so I figured the mount would have to happen first. Bill > May I ask why you are trying to do this? There may be a better way. > > Eric > > On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 7:28PM, Bill Janssen wrote: > > > Is there any way to automatically start a program residing on a > > filesystem automatically upon mount, either as part of the mount > > process or immediately after? > > > > Bill From rdelbello at daileyads.com Wed Apr 9 18:51:02 2003 From: rdelbello at daileyads.com (Remo Del Bello) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: LPR and IPP Printing Message-ID: Please excuse this very basic question, but... What is the difference between setting up IP printing via LPR vs. IPP? I am aware that by using LPR over PAP printing that I lose printer feedback (printer jam, paper out, printing error, etc.). Does setting the printer up as an IPP printer provide this feedback? Thanks for any comments. -Remo Del Bello -- "Your son is a very sick boy. Just look at these x-rays. You see that dark spot there? Whiplash. And this smudge here that looks like my fingerprint...no, that's trauma!" - Dr. Nick Riviera on The Simpsons From mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de Thu Apr 10 03:15:02 2003 From: mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de (Mark Asbach) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: automatic program launch upon filesystem mount? In-Reply-To: <03Apr9.184032pdt.58611@synergy1.parc.xerox.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill, >>> Is there any way to automatically start a program residing on a >>> filesystem automatically upon mount, either as part of the mount >>> process or immediately after? >> May I ask why you are trying to do this? There may be a better way. > Perhaps I'm mis-concentrating on the mount aspect; perhaps there's > a way to do this in the FireWire initialization code? well, personally, I don't like the idea of something getting started automatically from volumes I insert. Reminds me of QuickTime autostarter worms in the old days. I'd suggest you write a real deamon that has to be installed manually on the target computers and only watches for new mounts. This would be a more secure way and you could still distribute its installer on the surrounding filesystem, if you like. Mark From janos.lobb at yale.edu Thu Apr 10 07:19:00 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy In-Reply-To: <0CA1C3C5-6ACE-11D7-A98E-000A2791CF7C@23x.net> Message-ID: <3AF586A2-6B5F-11D7-9CB2-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> Yes, I tried. It works that way. It also fine when I boot back to OS9. What is that little flag which should be flipped in ResEdit to make it behave normally under OSX too ? J?nos On Wednesday, Apr 9, 2003, at 16:58 America/New_York, Jared ''Danger'' Earle wrote: > On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 10:15 pm, J?nos L?bb wrote: >> How can I make it back to a normal folder ? /I have to set Oracle >> home and that thing is inside this folder/ > > Have you tried right-clicking on it and selecting 'view package > contents'? > > -- > Jared Earle, Nightfall Games, jared@23x.net - http://www.23x.net > "There is no SPORK" > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.EDU Thu Apr 10 10:14:04 2003 From: Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark O'Neil) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: xserve: enabling ssi for ~user/Sites In-Reply-To: <200304091901.h39J1qL19305@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: Hello, I have enabled Server Side Includes for WebServer/Documents and that works fine. Unfortunately I cannot get SSI to work for user Sites directories... I thought changing the /etc/httpd/users/username.conf file it would do the trick. Here is a sample of one I am trying to get working: Options Includes Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all ScriptAlias /~fred/cgi-bin/ "Users/fred/Sites/cgi-bin/" Everything works as expected _except_ SSI. Have I missed a setting in httpd.conf (edited) or /etc/httpd/httpd_macosxserver.conf (not edited)? Thanks! -m From garbanzito at mac.com Thu Apr 10 10:27:01 2003 From: garbanzito at mac.com (steve harley) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:39 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy In-Reply-To: <3AF586A2-6B5F-11D7-9CB2-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> Message-ID: <7FF04BAD-6B79-11D7-AABF-000393C5ED50@mac.com> On Thursday, April 10, 2003, at 08:17 AM, J?nos L?bb wrote: > Yes, I tried. It works that way. It also fine when I boot back to > OS9. What is that little flag which should be flipped in ResEdit to > make it behave normally under OSX too ? XRay, and probably other file utilties, let you change the "package" flag on a folder.. in my test, Finder must restart to recognize the change, but it seems like that might solve the problem certain folder name extensions (e.g. ".app", ".plugin", ".pkg") will also convert a folder to a package, but i don't think that's your problem From philburk at mac.com Thu Apr 10 10:46:02 2003 From: philburk at mac.com (philburk) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy In-Reply-To: <7FF04BAD-6B79-11D7-AABF-000393C5ED50@mac.com> Message-ID: <3E1AC9C8-6B7C-11D7-8A82-000A27DD0506@mac.com> This is going to sound stupid, but have you tried adding and then removing a ".app" extension on that folder from the Finder's Get Info window? I would try it. I just created a new folder, added ".app" and the kind of item changed from folder to "Classic Application." Removing the ".app" extension changed it back to a folder. Worth a shot > On Thursday, April 10, 2003, at 08:17 AM, J?nos L?bb wrote: >> Yes, I tried. It works that way. It also fine when I boot back to >> OS9. What is that little flag which should be flipped in ResEdit to >> make it behave normally under OSX too ? > > XRay, and probably other file utilties, let you change the "package" > flag on a folder.. in my test, Finder must restart to recognize the > change, but it seems like that might solve the problem > > certain folder name extensions (e.g. ".app", ".plugin", ".pkg") will > also convert a folder to a package, but i don't think that's your > problem Phil Burk _______________________________________________________ Systems Support Technician Wiley Publishing, Inc. Indianapolis, IN 317-572-3049 From cgaraffa at creativeaim.com Thu Apr 10 13:54:02 2003 From: cgaraffa at creativeaim.com (Chris Garaffa) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: OS X Server forgetting its serial number? Message-ID: <73359999-6B96-11D7-9873-000393D00E20@creativeaim.com> Hey all... I had a really strange problem with OS X Server today, and the result was that it forgot its own serial number and therefore wouldn't show anything in Server Settings besides the General tab. The whole thing is documented at (initial problem) and . I'm just wondering as to why that would happen... any ideas? Thanks! -- Chris Garaffa cgaraffa@creativeaim.com 203.319.5129 From slong at lps.org Thu Apr 10 14:03:01 2003 From: slong at lps.org (Scott J. Long) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Printer options missing Message-ID: I use WGM and managed preferences to set up printers on OS X 10.2.4. The problem is that the PPD, though it exits on every machine, is not used. The end result is that the specific printer options such as duplexing do not show up. When I set up the printer in Print center, I choose the appropriate PPD but it does not apply globally. Please someone tell me that I do not have to go around to every machine in the building and set up the printer locally for this to work!!! Thanks in advance. Scott ***************************************************************** Scott J. Long slong@lps.org Network Manager http://lsw.lps.org Lincoln Southwest High School W:402-436-1306 ext 66350 Lincoln Public Schools C: 402-440-2053 7001 South 14th Street. http://hawk.lps.org/~slong Lincoln, NE 68512 ***************************************************************** From djw_lists at pacbell.net Thu Apr 10 14:19:01 2003 From: djw_lists at pacbell.net (djw_lists@pacbell.net) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Problems with Software Update? Message-ID: I'm constantly having problems with Software Update. Trying to get the new 10.2.5 update, for example, I get a message saying "The installation has encounted a problem. None of the checked updates were successfully installed. To try again, choose Download Checked Items in the Update menu and open the package from the desktop." I get this message even if I'm trying the Download Checked Items menu! No hints are to be found in the console log. My guess is that something I have installed on this system is conflicting with Software Update -- when I did a fresh reinstall, software update ran fine, but now that I have everything installed, I have problems again. Any ideas? Nothing in Apple's "support" web area was of any help.... -- Dan Wood Karelia Software, LLC dwood@karelia.com http://www.karelia.com/ Watson for Mac OS X: http://www.karelia.com/watson/ The Arrogance of Power: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Your help is greatly appreciated. thanks, Ryan From dave.xadmin at alfordmedia.com Thu Apr 10 15:06:01 2003 From: dave.xadmin at alfordmedia.com (Dave Pooser) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Problems with Software Update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm constantly having problems with Software Update. Trying to get the > new 10.2.5 update, for example, I get a message saying "The > installation has encounted a problem. None of the checked updates were > successfully installed. To try again, choose Download Checked Items in > the Update menu and open the package from the desktop." I get this > message even if I'm trying the Download Checked Items menu! I experienced a similar problem; quitting and relaunching Software Update worked fine for me. -- Dave Pooser Manager of Information Services Alford Media http://www.alfordmedia.com From jabaker at mac.com Thu Apr 10 18:04:01 2003 From: jabaker at mac.com (James A Baker) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy In-Reply-To: <200304101901.h3AJ15L13568@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <3F41FF82-6BB9-11D7-BF95-000393193AB6@mac.com> On Thursday, Apr 9, 2003, at 15:15 US/Central, J?nos wrote: >> [path_246:oracle installation/oracle/applications] janos% ls -l >> total 72 >> drwxrwxrwx 8 janos staff 272 Apr 9 14:31 Database Utilities >> drwxrwxrwx 7 janos staff 238 Apr 9 14:31 Graphical Administration >> Tools >> drwxrwxrwx 7 janos staff 238 Apr 9 14:31 Networking >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 0 Apr 9 14:31 ResetAlias >> drwxrwxrwx 6 janos staff 204 Apr 9 14:31 SQL*Plus >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 janos staff 0 Apr 9 14:31 Set Oracle Home Well, I don't recall *exactly* what the details are, but I believe that originally (back in OS 9) packages were created by having an alias in the top of the folder which pointed to an executable deeper inside. They also had to be relative aliases, IIRC. (Never did figure out how to create one of those, but I think that's what I read anyway.) Ah-hah! Here it is... From Tech Note 1188: (http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1188.html) > Although requirements for packages in Mac OS 9 are few, Figure 1 > illustrates the two main requirements for packages: the appropriate > Finder flag must be set for the package's folder and exactly one > relative alias must be present in the top-level of the package's > directory hierarchy. So, then maybe the file ResetAlias (which I presume is indeed an alias) is such a relative alias and is confusing the System into thinking this was supposed to be a package. -- Because the package bit got set at some point perhaps? Of course, several of the utilities mentioned by others might take care of this problem for you -- whether this is the cause or not -- but I do suspect that it's *probably* where the issue originated. And hey... for all I know, Mac OS X might not even require the package bit to be set anymore. This doc *was* written for OS 9 after all. I don't know what all changes they may have made to support defining of packages by their extensions instead of this way. It may only be necessary to have the single relative alias *OR* the package bit in a folder. I mean, who can say? (Any Apple developers want to chime in for me? 'Cause looking at several pages of search results on the Developer site turned up nothing as detailed about how OS X recognizes packages as TN1188 is about OS 9's requirements. -- And "dag nab it", I'm curious to know! ;-) -jab From leonvs at occam.com Thu Apr 10 18:34:01 2003 From: leonvs at occam.com (Leon Towns-von Stauber) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy In-Reply-To: <3F41FF82-6BB9-11D7-BF95-000393193AB6@mac.com> Message-ID: <97D5D016-6BBD-11D7-9DA3-003065A76B44@occam.com> > supposed to be a package. -- Because the package bit got set at some > point perhaps? Right, this is most likely what happened. It's easy enough to check (if you've installed the Dev Tools): run "/Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo Applications" to see if the bundle bit is set. (Look for an uppercase B in the "attributes" list.) > And hey... for all I know, Mac OS X might not even require the package > bit to be set anymore. This doc *was* written for OS 9 after all. I > don't know what all changes they may have made to support defining of > packages by their extensions instead of this way. It may only be > necessary to have the single relative alias *OR* the package bit in a > folder. I mean, who can say? OS X does use the bundle bit to represent folders as files in the Finder. Also, some filename extensions (like ".app") have the same effect even if the bundle bit isn't set. _____________________________________________________________ Leon Towns-von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/ Occam's Razor, System Admin & Author "We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!" From jabaker at mac.com Thu Apr 10 20:54:01 2003 From: jabaker at mac.com (James A Baker) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy In-Reply-To: <97D5D016-6BBD-11D7-9DA3-003065A76B44@occam.com> Message-ID: <31D26871-6BD1-11D7-8675-000393193AB6@mac.com> On Thursday, Apr 10, 2003, at 20:33 US/Central, Leon Towns-von Stauber wrote: >> supposed to be a package. -- Because the package bit got set at some >> point perhaps? > > Right, this is most likely what happened. It's easy enough to > check (if you've installed the Dev Tools): run > "/Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo Applications" to see if the > bundle bit is set. (Look for an uppercase B in the "attributes" > list.) > >> And hey... for all I know, Mac OS X might not even require the >> package bit to be set anymore. This doc *was* written for OS 9 after >> all. I don't know what all changes they may have made to support >> defining of packages by their extensions instead of this way. It may >> only be necessary to have the single relative alias *OR* the package >> bit in a folder. I mean, who can say? > > OS X does use the bundle bit to represent folders as files in > the Finder. Also, some filename extensions (like ".app") have > the same effect even if the bundle bit isn't set. Right. Hence my comment about the "defining of packages by their extensions." But, what I was saying I *didn't* know was whether a folder could be made into a package just by virtue of having a single relative alias found inside it. -- Not whether the bit by itself, or certain filename extensions by themselves, could do so... which we already know they can. See what I mean? ... I.e. "Is having a lone relative alias *sufficient* (in and of itself) to make a folder start behaving as a package in OS X?" That's the one I'm not sure about. (And if so, might that not be considered a bug?) Any one got an answer to that question specifically? :) -jab P.S. I don't know how to explicitly create a "relative alias", or I'd simply test it for myself. ;-) Surely some of you developer types do this all the time for your apps, right? Gimme a test run, will ya? (Or tell me how to make a relative alias, and I'll do the test.) Thanks! From magill at mcgillsociety.org Thu Apr 10 21:16:03 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Problems with Software Update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <478DB768-6BD4-11D7-AEED-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> On Thursday, April 10, 2003, at 05:18 PM, djw_lists@pacbell.net wrote: > I'm constantly having problems with Software Update. Trying to get > the new 10.2.5 update, for example, I get a message saying "The > installation has encounted a problem. None of the checked updates > were successfully installed. To try again, choose Download Checked > Items in the Update menu and open the package from the desktop." I > get this message even if I'm trying the Download Checked Items menu! > No hints are to be found in the console log. > > My guess is that something I have installed on this system is > conflicting with Software Update -- when I did a fresh reinstall, > software update ran fine, but now that I have everything installed, I > have problems again. > > Any ideas? Nothing in Apple's "support" web area was of any help.... Software Update does not deal well with network congestion. If it has trouble getting an update, or downloading it, it tends to give a generic error... trying again later usually means the network "situation" has changed and it works. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From grail at goldweb.com.au Thu Apr 10 22:55:01 2003 From: grail at goldweb.com.au (Alex Satrapa) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Problems with Software Update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <011722C6-6BE2-11D7-9CF2-0050E4C03462@goldweb.com.au> On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 07:18 , djw_lists@pacbell.net wrote: > I get this message even if I'm trying the Download Checked Items menu! > No hints are to be found in the console log. Check your proxy logs, and try to fetch the URL yourself - I've found that software update is trying to fetch something that doesn't exist, and I don't know how to make it fetch the "right" thing. So I'm stuck with trying to download the manual-install updates. yay. From addi at apple.is Fri Apr 11 04:25:00 2003 From: addi at apple.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arn=F3r_Kristj=E1nsson?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: httpd.conf and virtual hosts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <14C6795D-6C10-11D7-94DA-0030654C0BBC@apple.is> Thanks Ryan, According to the page at apache.org %h is the remote host [name] of the computer accessing the server. %v is the "canonical" server name of the file. The next natural question would be: Do I mess anything up if I add %v to this? Now it says: LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> %U" referer LogFormat "%{User-agent}i" agent do I add %v before %h or in a seperate line? A. On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 03:40 PM, Ryan Wilcox wrote: > On 4/9/03, at 10:12 AM, Arn?r Kristj?nsson said: > >> I'm trying to figure out how to make apache log the virtual host being >> accessed into access_log. This has probably been covered here before, >> but can someone refresh me? > > Add a %h to your CustomLog directives. > > See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_log_config.html#format for > more details > (or the OReilly Apache book) > > HTH, > -Ryan Wilcox > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wilcox Design: Understanding Data http://www.wilcoxd.com > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.EDU Fri Apr 11 05:37:01 2003 From: Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark O'Neil) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: xserve: MySQL and CGIWRAP Message-ID: <3D4F421E-6C1A-11D7-8FA0-000A9579F9D2@Dartmouth.edu> Hello! Two questions to start my day. I scanned the archives and did not find a definitive answer so here goes. Has anyone successfully built CGIWRAP on the xserve? I'd rather continue to run the default Apache rather than build one that runs suEXEC. and It seems the default MySQL installation on the new xserve when run from MySQL Manager runs w/o a root password - is this correct? I have scanned about looking for info regarding the effects of setting one per standard MySQL practices (using mysqladmin) and found nothing. Does anyone have issues to report after having made such a change via the command line? Tips and Pointers appreciated. regards, -m From Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.EDU Fri Apr 11 06:47:01 2003 From: Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark O'Neil) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: xserve: mysql running as root Message-ID: Sometimes more coffee is better (and a heads up from a coworker!)... root 6466 0.0 0.0 1828 592 ?? Ss 9:41AM 0:00.03 sh /usr/bin/safe_mysqld mysql 6480 0.0 0.0 10928 908 ?? S 9:41AM 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/mysqld mao 6483 0.0 0.0 1372 308 std S+ 9:41AM 0:00.01 grep mys so mysql is running as the mysql User, okay no problem. The question regarding the mysql root password still stands. thanks! -m From janos.lobb at yale.edu Fri Apr 11 07:05:01 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Directory behaves as package after copy In-Reply-To: <31D26871-6BD1-11D7-8675-000393193AB6@mac.com> Message-ID: <7EE73604-6C26-11D7-B483-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> James, Thanks for the insight. The ResetAlias is an applescript tell application "Finder" set aliasName to (path to ?class extn? as string) & "Oracle Libraries" set theLibFolder to original item of alias aliasName delete alias aliasName make new alias at ?class extn? ? to theLibFolder with properties {name:"Oracle Libraries"} end tell to reset the Oracle Libraries folder because for some reasons Oracle 7.x could not work otherwise on the Mac if the libraries were on a network server. Using XRay i unchecked the "package" checkbox and after re-boot I had a good looking folder again. It is good to know that gefileinfo can be used in the future without shelling out some money to fix folders like this. Thanks you all who responded. J?nos On Thursday, Apr 10, 2003, at 23:53 America/New_York, James A Baker wrote: > On Thursday, Apr 10, 2003, at 20:33 US/Central, Leon Towns-von Stauber > wrote: > >>> supposed to be a package. -- Because the package bit got set at some >>> point perhaps? >> >> Right, this is most likely what happened. It's easy enough to >> check (if you've installed the Dev Tools): run >> "/Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo Applications" to see if the >> bundle bit is set. (Look for an uppercase B in the "attributes" >> list.) >> >>> And hey... for all I know, Mac OS X might not even require the >>> package bit to be set anymore. This doc *was* written for OS 9 after >>> all. I don't know what all changes they may have made to support >>> defining of packages by their extensions instead of this way. It may >>> only be necessary to have the single relative alias *OR* the package >>> bit in a folder. I mean, who can say? >> >> OS X does use the bundle bit to represent folders as files in >> the Finder. Also, some filename extensions (like ".app") have >> the same effect even if the bundle bit isn't set. > > Right. Hence my comment about the "defining of packages by their > extensions." > > But, what I was saying I *didn't* know was whether a folder could be > made into a package just by virtue of having a single relative alias > found inside it. -- Not whether the bit by itself, or certain filename > extensions by themselves, could do so... which we already know they > can. > > See what I mean? ... I.e. "Is having a lone relative alias > *sufficient* (in and of itself) to make a folder start behaving as a > package in OS X?" That's the one I'm not sure about. (And if so, might > that not be considered a bug?) > > Any one got an answer to that question specifically? :) > > -jab > > P.S. I don't know how to explicitly create a "relative alias", or I'd > simply test it for myself. ;-) Surely some of you developer types do > this all the time for your apps, right? Gimme a test run, will ya? (Or > tell me how to make a relative alias, and I'll do the test.) Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From janos.lobb at yale.edu Fri Apr 11 09:28:01 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Unable to print from OSX In-Reply-To: <66E3B05A-69F1-11D7-B8BB-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> Message-ID: <7FF2F887-6C3A-11D7-B483-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> After reading through the Printing Architecture and checking further on this machine I found another intriguing phenomena. When I look some sites from this machine I see that those sites which use Apple personal web sharing on an OS9 machine show up weird. The pages are shown mixed and pictures are shown out of order and line. When I mount one such web server hard drive via AFP on the desktop and use file:// to get the same pages, everything looks perfect. If I take into account that the cups/errorlog shows the crash right before the following - or similar - command should come: ReadClient() 9 POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1 I am wondering if the two problems are connected. If I stop the print queue in Print Central I can see the job there. When I start the queue, it disappear from the queue, but NOT coming out from the printer and that is when I get the: > E [08/Apr/2003:13:20:30 -0400] PID 12722 crashed on signal 10! killing the /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops process. I am wondering if the http 1.1 subsystem is broken on the machine. If yes, how can it be repaired without re-installing the whole system. /The owner of this machine made many customization to it to look like just as an OS9 machine. I cannot help on that one :)/ I rsync-ed the /usr/libexec/cups directory from another - well behaving - machine at the same OS level. I changed the PPD to Generic. Using Generic on my machine I am able to print to any printer he is unable to print from his machine. It looks to me that the I/O module is hosed which would provide the transport via AFP or tcp/ip to the printer. What else should I do apart of a total re-install ? How can I enable debug mode on cups to see more ? Thanks ahead, J?nos On Tuesday, Apr 8, 2003, at 14:39 America/New_York, J?nos L?bb wrote: > Hi, > > Earlier I asked about a problem my Chairman has with printing. He is > able to print from classic fine. He is unable to print from OSX side > at all. Neither from Word or from TextEdit. Today I got the time to > look around his machine and in his /var/log/caps/error_log I found > these entries for today. Please note that the unix time set back > happened after a shutdown before syncing with the time server had a > chance. > > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:29 -0400] Job 165 queued on > 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:29 -0400] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 12722) for job 165. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:29 -0400] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 12723) for job 165. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:29 -0400] Started backend > /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 12724) for job 165. > E [08/Apr/2003:13:20:30 -0400] PID 12722 crashed on signal 10! > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:33 -0400] Saving printers.conf... > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:33 -0400] Printer 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' stopped > by ''. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:44 -0400] Job 166 queued on > 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Saving printers.conf... > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 12726) for job 166. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 12727) for job 166. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Started backend > /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 12728) for job 166. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Saving printers.conf... > I [08/Apr/2003:13:20:54 -0400] Printer 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' started > by ''. > E [08/Apr/2003:13:20:55 -0400] PID 12726 crashed on signal 10! > W [08/Apr/2003:13:20:56 -0400] Unknown PAP packet of type 209 > I [08/Apr/2003:13:44:44 -0400] Job 167 queued on > 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:44:44 -0400] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 13190) for job 167. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:44:44 -0400] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 13191) for job 167. > I [08/Apr/2003:13:44:44 -0400] Started backend > /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 13192) for job 167. > E [08/Apr/2003:13:44:45 -0400] PID 13190 crashed on signal 10! > E [08/Apr/2003:13:45:57 -0400] Scheduler shutting down due to SIGTERM. > > / Here the machine was cold started / > > I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Listening to 7f000001:631 > I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Configured for up to 100 clients. > I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Allowing up to 100 client connections > per host. > E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "pdftops" cannot be found! > E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "imagetops" cannot be found! > E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! > E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! > E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! > E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! > E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "texttops" cannot be found! > E [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] Filter "imagetoraster" cannot be found! > I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] LoadPPDs: Read > "/private/etc/cups/ppds.dat", 12 PPDs... > I [31/Dec/1969:19:00:28 -0500] LoadPPDs: No new or changed PPDs... > I [31/Dec/1969:19:01:07 -0500] Job 168 queued on > 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. > I [31/Dec/1969:19:01:07 -0500] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 482) for job 168. > I [31/Dec/1969:19:01:07 -0500] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 483) for job 168. > I [31/Dec/1969:19:01:07 -0500] Started backend > /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 484) for job 168. > E [31/Dec/1969:19:01:09 -0500] PID 482 crashed on signal 10! > W [31/Dec/1969:19:01:10 -0500] Unknown PAP packet of type 209 > I [31/Dec/1969:19:02:02 -0500] Job 169 queued on > 'Chairmangs_Office_HP4' by 'jsm'. > I [31/Dec/1969:19:02:02 -0500] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops (PID 493) for job 169. > I [31/Dec/1969:19:02:02 -0500] Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstops (PID 494) for job 169. > I [31/Dec/1969:19:02:02 -0500] Started backend > /usr/libexec/cups/backend/pap (PID 495) for job 169. > E [31/Dec/1969:19:02:03 -0500] PID 493 crashed on signal 10! > W [31/Dec/1969:19:02:04 -0500] Unknown PAP packet of type 129 > > Looks like this process - Started filter > /usr/libexec/cups/filter/cgpdftops - is crashing on signal 10 (?!) all > the time when he wants to print. > The related entry in the system.log looks like: > > Apr 8 13:20:29 JSMG4 crashdump: Couldn't find or create: > /var/root/Library/Logs/CrashReporter > Apr 8 13:20:29 JSMG4 crashdump: Failed to open > /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/cgpdftops.crash.log errno: 13 > Apr 8 13:20:29 JSMG4 crashdump: Unable to write crash report to > /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/cgpdftops.crash.log for uid: 1 Date/Time: > 2003-04-08 13:20:29 -0400 OS Version: 10.2.4 (Build 6I32) Host: > JSMG4.local. Command: cgpdftops PID: 12722 Exception: > EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) > at 0x00000028 Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x90015ac0 in fseeko #1 > 0x900345e0 in rewind #2 0x91f311ac in ps_EndPage #3 0x91f30d0c > in ps_DonePage #4 0x937b24d8 in dlr_Action #5 0x00003e4c in > 0x3e4c #6 0x00003418 in 0x3418 #7 0x00003298 in 0x3298 PPC > Thread State: srr0: 0x90015ac0 srr1: 0x0000d030 > vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x90015a8c ctr: > 0x90015a60 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000001 r1: 0xbfffcbf0 r2: > 0x00000000 r3: 0x00000000 r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x00000000 r6: > 0x00000000 r7: 0x61676553 r8: 0x00047010 r9: 0xa0000cc4 r10: > 0x00000000 r11: 0xa00047ac r12: 0x90015a60 r13: 0x00000000 r14: > 0x00000000 > > > Any good idea what causes it and how to fix it ? > Thanks ahead, > J?nos > > ---------------------------------------------- > Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a > corpse. > (S. Lem: His Master Voice) > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From blue at ev01.net Fri Apr 11 09:48:02 2003 From: blue at ev01.net (jeff) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: httpd.conf and virtual hosts In-Reply-To: <14C6795D-6C10-11D7-94DA-0030654C0BBC@apple.is> References: <14C6795D-6C10-11D7-94DA-0030654C0BBC@apple.is> Message-ID: <3E96F19C.1040905@ev01.net> Arn?r Kristj?nsson wrote: > Thanks Ryan, > > According to the page at apache.org %h is the remote host [name] of > the computer accessing the server. %v is the "canonical" server name > of the file. > > The next natural question would be: Do I mess anything up if I add %v > to this? > Now it says: > LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common > LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> %U" referer > LogFormat "%{User-agent}i" agent > > do I add %v before %h or in a seperate line? > > A. Hi Ryan, You can put the %v on the same line like so: LogFormat "%v %h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common Jeff From robmortonjunk at comcast.net Fri Apr 11 11:24:02 2003 From: robmortonjunk at comcast.net (Rob Morton) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Problems with Software Update? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I needed to delete /Library/Caches/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate/ Everything went well after that. Rob Morton on 4/10/03 5:18 PM, djw_lists@pacbell.net at djw_lists@pacbell.net wrote: > I'm constantly having problems with Software Update. Trying to get the > new 10.2.5 update, for example, I get a message saying "The > installation has encounted a problem. None of the checked updates were > successfully installed. To try again, choose Download Checked Items in > the Update menu and open the package from the desktop." I get this > message even if I'm trying the Download Checked Items menu! No hints > are to be found in the console log. > > My guess is that something I have installed on this system is > conflicting with Software Update -- when I did a fresh reinstall, > software update ran fine, but now that I have everything installed, I > have problems again. > > Any ideas? Nothing in Apple's "support" web area was of any help.... From jabaker at mac.com Fri Apr 11 14:40:01 2003 From: jabaker at mac.com (James A Baker) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: httpd.conf and virtual hosts In-Reply-To: <200304111901.h3BJ17L04489@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: On Friday, Apr 11, 2003, at 06:23 US/Central, Arn?r Kristj?nsson wrote: > Thanks Ryan, > > According to the page at apache.org %h is the remote host [name] of > the computer accessing the server. %v is the "canonical" server name > of the file. > > The next natural question would be: Do I mess anything up if I add %v > to this? > Now it says: > LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common > LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> %U" referer > LogFormat "%{User-agent}i" agent > > do I add %v before %h or in a seperate line? > > A. Presumably you know of course that you'll probably be messing up any log reporting mechanism till it's taught to deal with the extra info. =) But, no... you won't mess up anything about Apache itself by adding %v to the LogFormat. However, I would suggest that you *not* modify the existing LogFormat directive. That one defines the term "common" as a LogFormat... and you might have reason to use that at some point, and it then would not behave as expected. I'd suggest creating an extra LogFormat directive and calling it something else. For example: LogFormat "%v %h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" commonplusvhost That way you avoid logs unexpectedly inserting vhost info when you (or your successor?) tries to change the conf later on. -- Of course, that does also mean that any logs to which you want to apply this change, need to be changed to log using the "commonplusvhost" format instead of the "common" format they're already using. But that's not a big deal. -jab From scott at maxify.com Fri Apr 11 15:11:03 2003 From: scott at maxify.com (Scott Stevenson) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: xserve: MySQL and CGIWRAP In-Reply-To: <3D4F421E-6C1A-11D7-8FA0-000A9579F9D2@Dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <5AC03476-6C6A-11D7-8F23-003065CA9E5A@maxify.com> On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 05:36 AM, Mark O'Neil wrote: > It seems the default MySQL installation on the new xserve when run > from MySQL Manager runs w/o a root password - is this correct? I have > scanned about looking for info regarding the effects of setting one > per standard MySQL practices (using mysqladmin) and found nothing. > Does anyone have issues to report after having made such a change via > the command line? Tips and Pointers appreciated. It's not clear to me what you are asking. If you don't set a password for mysql's "root" account, anyone can administer the database without a password. If you set a password, they will have to use that password to make administrative changes. Setting that password has no side effects other than additional security. - Scott From leonw at rand.org Fri Apr 11 19:33:01 2003 From: leonw at rand.org (Wong, Leon) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: access to Mac from a PC. Message-ID: <2732967B446AFD4E9CDE5E37D642548B69D751@smmail2.rand.org> Hi All, I am doing some research on integrating OS X Macs into an Active Directory environment. With helpful resources from the web and aliases like this, I have been able to allow a windows user to login to a Mac without a local account. However, I can not figure out how to provide a windows user on his windows box access to a Mac using only AD credentials. Is this possible at all? Does anyone have insights on this? From anders at milkweed.com Sat Apr 12 12:23:01 2003 From: anders at milkweed.com (Anders Pytte) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: weird graphics and com.apple.CoreGraphics.plist? Message-ID: <0185333E-6D1C-11D7-9D01-003065B934FC@milkweed.com> Hi, What is the purpose of the preferences file: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com? One day for no obvious reason, all of the OS X graphics became inverted gray, like black and white film negatives. Since the problem went away when I logged out I checked my preferences, found this file which contained two values: DisplayUseForcedGray and DisplayUseInvertedPolarity. They were yes, when I said no, logged out and in again, the problem went away. Any idea who would set these flags? Thanks, Anders. From jonas at zeus.ugent.be Sat Apr 12 12:30:01 2003 From: jonas at zeus.ugent.be (Jonas Maebe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: weird graphics and com.apple.CoreGraphics.plist? In-Reply-To: <0185333E-6D1C-11D7-9D01-003065B934FC@milkweed.com> Message-ID: <118DF545-6D1D-11D7-8720-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> On zaterdag, apr 12, 2003, at 21:21 Europe/Brussels, Anders Pytte wrote: > One day for no obvious reason, all of the OS X graphics became > inverted gray, like black and white film negatives. Since the problem > went away when I logged out I checked my preferences, found this file > which contained two values: DisplayUseForcedGray and > DisplayUseInvertedPolarity. > > They were yes, when I said no, logged out and in again, the problem > went away. > > Any idea who would set these flags? System Preferences -> Universal Access -> Switch to White on Black. Pressing ctrl-option-cmd-* switches that on and off as well. Jonas From anders at milkweed.com Sat Apr 12 12:58:10 2003 From: anders at milkweed.com (Anders Pytte) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: weird graphics and com.apple.CoreGraphics.plist? In-Reply-To: <118DF545-6D1D-11D7-8720-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> Message-ID: On Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 03:29 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: > > On zaterdag, apr 12, 2003, at 21:21 Europe/Brussels, Anders Pytte > wrote: > >> One day for no obvious reason, all of the OS X graphics became >> inverted gray, like black and white film negatives. Since the problem >> went away when I logged out I checked my preferences, found this file >> which contained two values: DisplayUseForcedGray and >> DisplayUseInvertedPolarity. >> >> They were yes, when I said no, logged out and in again, the problem >> went away. >> >> Any idea who would set these flags? > > System Preferences -> Universal Access -> Switch to White on Black. > Pressing ctrl-option-cmd-* switches that on and off as well. Thanks. I see there is a very unlikely key combo for switching. The cat must have walked on my keyboard and got lucky. Anders. From Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.edu Sat Apr 12 13:56:01 2003 From: Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.edu (Mark O'Neil) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: MacOSX-admin digest, Vol 1 #1069 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <200304121901.h3CJ1FL15496@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <084B71C8-6D29-11D7-B5CF-000A9579F9D2@Dartmouth.edu> Correct - the reason for the question was that someone had at one point posted to this list saying that the MySQL Manager threw a bunch of errors after they set the password. Hence the question - I have since gone ahead and set the MySQL root password.... regards, -m On Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 03:01 PM, macosx-admin-request@omnigroup.com wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:10:07 -0700 > Subject: Re: xserve: MySQL and CGIWRAP > From: Scott Stevenson > To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > > > On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 05:36 AM, Mark O'Neil wrote: > >> It seems the default MySQL installation on the new xserve when run >> from MySQL Manager runs w/o a root password - is this correct? I have >> scanned about looking for info regarding the effects of setting one >> per standard MySQL practices (using mysqladmin) and found nothing. >> Does anyone have issues to report after having made such a change via >> the command line? Tips and Pointers appreciated. > > It's not clear to me what you are asking. > > If you don't set a password for mysql's "root" account, anyone can > administer the database without a password. If you set a password, they > will have to use that password to make administrative changes. Setting > that password has no side effects other than additional security. > > - Scott From jauluck at yahoo.com Sat Apr 12 14:31:00 2003 From: jauluck at yahoo.com (Jeevan Auluck) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Automount Sharepoint (Mac 10.2.4 with Active Directory) - kind of lost Message-ID: <20030412213046.94929.qmail@web40803.mail.yahoo.com> Active Directory 1. I have user called Joe User 2. I beleive I have all the mapping I need... used... the scripts from www.shukwit.com to create required mappings. 3. Have Mount class... it has some enteries... not sure if the are correct MAC Server 1. I have all the mappings as per the scripts from www.shukwit.com 2. I can see Joe User in work group manager. Questions: 1. I need to create a Sharepoint in Workgroup Manger for AD User Joe.... where should I create it... and who should be the owner of this share... etc.. does this share needs to exist under Users share... 2. For AD user Joe... in workgroup manager what needs to be done so that when this user logs in to MAC workstation and when Joe clicks on Home then the assigned share point is mounted. I am very new to this... I don't know what steps are required on MAC Server and on AD Server to make automount work.... If there are links or step by step process already documented for both MAC and AD... is much appreciated. Regards Jeevan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From mbartosh at mac.com Sat Apr 12 15:35:00 2003 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Automount Sharepoint (Mac 10.2.4 with Active Directory) - kind of lost In-Reply-To: <20030412213046.94929.qmail@web40803.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030412213046.94929.qmail@web40803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 2:30 PM -0700 4/12/03, Jeevan Auluck wrote: >Active Directory > 1. I have user called Joe User > 2. I beleive I have all the mapping I need... > used... the scripts from www.shukwit.com to create > required mappings. > 3. Have Mount class... it has some enteries... not > sure if the are correct I think Gordon also has a tool / script or something that lets you create a mount in AD. >MAC Server > 1. I have all the mappings as per the scripts from > www.shukwit.com > 2. I can see Joe User in work group manager. ? If you're using Mac OS X Server, why on earth are you keeping the mounts in AD? That's a lot of extra work to go to. I'm assuming you're using AFP home dirs... why not just use smb home dirs, so that your clients will have the same dir when logging in from Mac or Windows clients? >Questions: > >1. I need to create a Sharepoint in Workgroup Manger >for AD User Joe.... where should I create it... and >who should be the owner of this share... etc.. does >this share needs to exist under Users share... > >2. For AD user Joe... in workgroup manager what needs >to be done so that when this user logs in to MAC >workstation and when Joe clicks on Home then the >assigned share point is mounted. > >I am very new to this... I don't know what steps are >required on MAC Server and on AD Server to make >automount work.... > >If there are links or step by step process already >documented for both MAC and AD... is much appreciated. I don't keep mounts in AD, since it requires schema modification. I usually keep mounts in either the local directory (when clients won't be moving around) or in a parent open directory domain. (no users live there, just mounts, etc). You can query lookupd for mounts (while in debug mode) query for allMounts. You can also kill automount and start it with: automount -d -m /Network/Servers -fstab -m /automount -static too see why it's not picking up your mount. I usually have a mount object living in open directory that refers to an smb share. There are some caveats to smb home dirs (byhosts preferences don't work, and they may not be unmounted properly, among others) but the benefits of having a single, centralized home dir infrastructure is usually worth it. Here's an example: #nidump so see what a mount looks like. Watch line wrap. [localhost:~] tarbosh% nidump -r /mounts / { "name" = ( "mounts" ); CHILDREN = ( { "vfstype" = ( "url" ); "opts" = ( "url==smb://AUTH=NO%20USER%20AUTHENT@w2k.example.com/HOMES", "net" ); "name" = ( "w2k:/HOMES" ); "dir" = ( "/Network/Servers" ); } ) } #dump is into a file: nidump -r /mounts / > mounts.out #edit mounts.out to reflect new mount: vi mounts.out... #in this example I added another mount. Watch line wrap again) { "name" = ( "mounts" ); CHILDREN = ( { "vfstype" = ( "url" ); "opts" = ( "url==smb://AUTH=NO%20USER%20AUTHENT@w2k.example.com/HOMES", "net" ); "name" = ( "w2k:/HOMES" ); "dir" = ( "/Network/Servers" ); } { "vfstype" = ( "url" ); "opts" = ( "url==smb://AUTH=NO%20USER%20AUTHENT@otherserver.example.com/A-D", "net" ); "name" = ( "otherserver:/A-D" ); "dir" = ( "/Network/Servers" ); } ) } #As of 10.2.3 gues access to the target mount was required for smb automounts (not afp, though). I have #not tested in 10.2.5. #load the new mounts into Open Directory: niload -r /mounts / < mounts.out --end smb stuff-- If you're using AFP mounts and Mac OS X Server, though, there's no reason to go with ni* tools. Keep mounts in Open Directory and use WGM to create the mounts. Configure your clients to look to both AD (for users) and Open Dir (for mounts and MCX settings). This by far the simplest strategy from a management standpoint, if you already have a Mac OS X Server in the mix. From macosx-admin at sjk.us Sat Apr 12 16:36:01 2003 From: macosx-admin at sjk.us (Scott J. Kramer) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: weird graphics and com.apple.CoreGraphics.plist? In-Reply-To: <118DF545-6D1D-11D7-8720-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> References: <118DF545-6D1D-11D7-8720-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> Message-ID: <2147483647.1050154530@aura.luxnet.org> --On Saturday, April 12, 2003 21:29 +0200 Jonas Maebe wrote: [...] > System Preferences -> Universal Access -> Switch to White on Black. > Pressing ctrl-option-cmd-* switches that on and off as well. It's control-option-command-8, according to: -sjk From stephen.johnson at UTSouthwestern.edu Sun Apr 13 14:01:01 2003 From: stephen.johnson at UTSouthwestern.edu (stephen johnson) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Automount Sharepoint (Mac 10.2.4 with Active Directory) In-Reply-To: <200304131901.h3DJ1BL26227@slowbro.omnigroup.com> References: <200304131901.h3DJ1BL26227@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: Michael, Please elaborate on having clients look to AD for users and Open Dir for mounts. I'm not sure I understand the scenario, but it does sound simpler than doing mounts in AD. Thanks, Stephen Johnson Software Systems Specialist Dept. of Molecular Biology UT Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas >Message: 6 >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:34:39 -0400 >To: Jeevan Auluck , macosx-admin@omnigroup.com >From: Michael Bartosh >Subject: Re: Automount Sharepoint (Mac 10.2.4 with Active Directory) - > kind of lost > >If you're using AFP mounts and Mac OS X Server, though, there's no >reason to go with ni* tools. Keep mounts in Open Directory and use >WGM to create the mounts. Configure your clients to look to both AD >(for users) and Open Dir (for mounts and MCX settings). This by far >the simplest strategy from a management standpoint, if you already >have a Mac OS X Server in the mix. From jabaker at mac.com Sun Apr 13 14:03:02 2003 From: jabaker at mac.com (James A Baker) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: weird graphics and com.apple.CoreGraphics.plist? In-Reply-To: <200304131901.h3DJ13L26139@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <2DD64902-6DF3-11D7-A12D-000393193AB6@mac.com> On Sunday, Apr 12, 2003, at 18:35 US/Central, Scott J. Kramer wrote: > --On Saturday, April 12, 2003 21:29 +0200 Jonas Maebe > wrote: > > [...] > >> System Preferences -> Universal Access -> Switch to White on Black. >> Pressing ctrl-option-cmd-* switches that on and off as well. > > It's control-option-command-8, according to: > > > > -sjk Okay... I happen to like this feature (particularly for those yucky web sites that use a black background with white text :) and so I find that I actually use it sometimes. But I wish it didn't automatically choose b&w mode. So, who can tell me how to set up my system where using this feature uses the negative *color* mode instead of negative *b&w* mode?? According to the following sentence from that document, it seems you *can* set it up differently. But how is it done? > Depending on system configuration, it may be black and white, such as > that in Figure 1, or color negative, such as that in Figure 2. Of course, I can get it to that config by manually switching from 256 colors (grays actually) to thousands/millions after the switch. But how can I set it to just go to this setting (negative color) whenever I activate the feature, rather than having to take 2 or 3 steps to get there? Any one know? TIA. -jab From jauluck at yahoo.com Sun Apr 13 19:14:01 2003 From: jauluck at yahoo.com (Jeevan Auluck) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Automount Sharepoint (Mac 10.2.4 with Active Directory) - kind of lost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030414021325.58496.qmail@web40808.mail.yahoo.com> Michael Thanks for your reply. As per you last para and as per stephen question as well: I will be using AD to authunticate users, once authnicated then as per you suggestion set-up Open Directory using WGM for mounting the Shares when users login. This would be perfect, however the question I have is: Would I not need to create users in Open Directory? if not then I am not sure what would be required to make this work? As I was trying to make it work... when I create these shares on MAC Server who do I assign the owner and group to be? would this be the users name from AD, as it shows when I click on users & group option using WGM, which gives me errors when I try to set automount option...under Accounts tab. Also as per your reply "to keep moutns in Open Directory..." how is this done.. what settings are requried on client's workstation and on the server to make this happen..for users who are authenticated against AD when they log-in. Below is what I understand so far, please feel free to correct/add or modify: AD: 1. User a/c resided here. MAC X Server: 1. Contains share point for each user who log's in 2. Set-up Directory Access mappings so that Users and groups are shown when using WGM.. MAC Client: 1. Set-up Directory mappings so that users can authnicate against AD(... which is working as mappings are there) and MAC Server for automount (have not tried yet... as not sure how this works... ) Regards Jeevan Auluck --- Michael Bartosh wrote: > At 2:30 PM -0700 4/12/03, Jeevan Auluck wrote: > >Active Directory > > 1. I have user called Joe User > > 2. I beleive I have all the mapping I need... > > used... the scripts from www.shukwit.com to > create > > required mappings. > > 3. Have Mount class... it has some enteries... > not > > sure if the are correct > > I think Gordon also has a tool / script or something > that lets you > create a mount in AD. > > >MAC Server > > 1. I have all the mappings as per the scripts > from > > www.shukwit.com > > 2. I can see Joe User in work group manager. > > > ? If you're using Mac OS X Server, why on earth are > you keeping the > mounts in AD? That's a lot of extra work to go to. > I'm assuming > you're using AFP home dirs... why not just use smb > home dirs, so that > your clients will have the same dir when logging in > from Mac or > Windows clients? > > >Questions: > > > >1. I need to create a Sharepoint in Workgroup > Manger > >for AD User Joe.... where should I create it... and > >who should be the owner of this share... etc.. does > >this share needs to exist under Users share... > > > >2. For AD user Joe... in workgroup manager what > needs > >to be done so that when this user logs in to MAC > >workstation and when Joe clicks on Home then the > >assigned share point is mounted. > > > >I am very new to this... I don't know what steps > are > >required on MAC Server and on AD Server to make > >automount work.... > > > >If there are links or step by step process already > >documented for both MAC and AD... is much > appreciated. > > I don't keep mounts in AD, since it requires schema > modification. I > usually keep mounts in either the local directory > (when clients won't > be moving around) or in a parent open directory > domain. (no users > live there, just mounts, etc). > > You can query lookupd for mounts (while in debug > mode) query for > allMounts. You can also kill automount and start it > with: > > automount -d -m /Network/Servers -fstab -m > /automount -static > > too see why it's not picking up your mount. > > I usually have a mount object living in open > directory that refers to > an smb share. There are some caveats to smb home > dirs (byhosts > preferences don't work, and they may not be > unmounted properly, among > others) but the benefits of having a single, > centralized home dir > infrastructure is usually worth it. > > Here's an example: > > #nidump so see what a mount looks like. Watch line > wrap. > [localhost:~] tarbosh% nidump -r /mounts / > { > "name" = ( "mounts" ); > CHILDREN = ( > { > "vfstype" = ( "url" ); > "opts" = ( > "url==smb://AUTH=NO%20USER%20AUTHENT@w2k.example.com/HOMES", > "net" ); > "name" = ( "w2k:/HOMES" ); > "dir" = ( "/Network/Servers" ); > } > ) > } > > #dump is into a file: > nidump -r /mounts / > mounts.out > > #edit mounts.out to reflect new mount: > > vi mounts.out... > #in this example I added another mount. Watch line > wrap again) > { > "name" = ( "mounts" ); > CHILDREN = ( > { > "vfstype" = ( "url" ); > "opts" = ( > "url==smb://AUTH=NO%20USER%20AUTHENT@w2k.example.com/HOMES", > "net" ); > "name" = ( "w2k:/HOMES" ); > "dir" = ( "/Network/Servers" ); > } > { > "vfstype" = ( "url" ); > "opts" = ( > "url==smb://AUTH=NO%20USER%20AUTHENT@otherserver.example.com/A-D", > > "net" ); > "name" = ( "otherserver:/A-D" ); > "dir" = ( "/Network/Servers" ); > } > ) > } > > #As of 10.2.3 gues access to the target mount was > required for smb > automounts (not afp, though). I have #not tested in > 10.2.5. > > #load the new mounts into Open Directory: > > niload -r /mounts / < mounts.out > > --end smb stuff-- > > > If you're using AFP mounts and Mac OS X Server, > though, there's no > reason to go with ni* tools. Keep mounts in Open > Directory and use > WGM to create the mounts. Configure your clients to > look to both AD > (for users) and Open Dir (for mounts and MCX > settings). This by far > the simplest strategy from a management standpoint, > if you already > have a Mac OS X Server in the mix. > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From mbartosh at mac.com Sun Apr 13 19:15:01 2003 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Automount Sharepoint (Mac 10.2.4 with Active Directory) In-Reply-To: References: <200304131901.h3DJ1BL26227@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: At 3:55 PM -0500 4/13/03, stephen johnson wrote: >Michael, > >Please elaborate on having clients look to AD for users and Open Dir >for mounts. I'm not sure I understand the scenario, but it does >sound simpler than doing mounts in AD. a) If you're available next Fri, I'll be in Austin at Apple's Integrating Mac OS X on Campus Seminar @ UT. b) It's a complex concept but its simple to implement. Instead of adding a mounts class to AD, your simply using native Mac OS X tools to add mounts to the Open Directory Domain that lives on Mac OS X Server. Clients are configured to look at both nodes- ie in Directory Access, under the Authentication tab, you see something like: /NetInfo/Root #this it the local netinfo domain /LDAPv3/win2k.example.com #this is an AD Domain Controller /LDAPv3/opendirectory.example.com #this is your Mac OS X Server Clients look to all three places to get directory data. Users and other AD native data live in AD. Mac OS X native data lives in Open dir. This allows: a) fewer intrusions on AD administrator b) delegated management of Mac OS X data c) easier management of Mac OS X Specific data. -- http://www.4am-media.com Mac OS X Consulting and Training Michael Bartosh mbartosh@4am-media.com 303.517.0272 Denver, CO "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." - -- Nietzsche Think Different. From mbartosh at mac.com Sun Apr 13 19:31:00 2003 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Automount Sharepoint (Mac 10.2.4 with Active Directory) - kind of lost In-Reply-To: <20030414021325.58496.qmail@web40808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030414021325.58496.qmail@web40808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 7:13 PM -0700 4/13/03, Jeevan Auluck wrote: >Thanks for your reply. > >As per you last para and as per stephen question as >well: > >I will be using AD to authunticate users, once >authnicated then as per you suggestion set-up Open >Directory using WGM for mounting the Shares when users >login. This would be perfect, however the question I >have is: > >Would I not need to create users in Open Directory? if >not then I am not sure what would be required to make >this work? No. The server should be configured to access AD (similar to client configuration). > >As I was trying to make it work... when I create these >shares on MAC Server who do I assign the owner and >group to be? would this be the users name from AD, as >it shows when I click on users & group option using >WGM, which gives me errors when I try to set automount >option...under Accounts tab. ? I'm a bit confused. The automount option is under Sharing. This should be in the WGM window that corresponds to the Open Dir domain. Not the one that corresponds to the AD. > >Also as per your reply "to keep moutns in Open >Directory..." how is this done.. what settings are >requried on client's workstation and on the server to >make this happen..for users who are authenticated >against AD when they log-in. > >Below is what I understand so far, please feel free to >correct/add or modify: > >AD: >1. User a/c resided here. > >MAC X Server: >1. Contains share point for each user who log's in No. Contains a /Users automount. >2. Set-up Directory Access mappings so that Users and >groups are shown when using WGM.. Users. Groups are more problematic. > >MAC Client: >1. Set-up Directory mappings so that users can >authnicate against AD(... which is working as mappings >are there) and MAC Server for automount (have not >tried yet... as not sure how this works... ) Just create 2 nodes. One for AD and one for Open Dir. -- http://www.4am-media.com Mac OS X Consulting and Training Michael Bartosh mbartosh@4am-media.com 303.517.0272 Denver, CO "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." - -- Nietzsche Think Different. From tane at cofa.unsw.edu.au Sun Apr 13 21:01:02 2003 From: tane at cofa.unsw.edu.au (Tane Potaka) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: 10.2.4_5 Login problem Message-ID: Hi, I have a G4 933 with 2 internal HDs. The problem I am experiencing when logging in is this: When authenticating from a remote server, running 10.2.4, via netinfo or ldap3, using 'WorkGroup management', I get a dialogue box saying : "You have inserted a disk containing no volumes that Mac os X can read. To continue, click ignore."- with ignore being the only button. This dialog is being caused by the second HD as it doesn't occur when this drive is diconnected. Once you click the 'ignore' button, the drive mounts and appears to be fine. It occurs with both local and remote users regardless of jumper configuration on the HD. The problem only happens in 10.2.4 and up. I need to update my labs to 10.2.5 and although not a critical problem it is very annoying and is likely to confuse students. Has anyone else had this problem? Cheers, Tane ______________________________ Tane Potaka Computer Systems Officer College of Fine Arts University of New South Wales ______________________________ PO Box 259, Paddington 2021 Sydney Australia Phone: +61 2 9385 0692 Fax: +61 2 9385 0706 Email: tane@cofa.unsw.edu.au ______________________________ From jonas at zeus.ugent.be Mon Apr 14 00:44:01 2003 From: jonas at zeus.ugent.be (Jonas Maebe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: weird graphics and com.apple.CoreGraphics.plist? In-Reply-To: <2DD64902-6DF3-11D7-A12D-000393193AB6@mac.com> Message-ID: On zondag, apr 13, 2003, at 23:02 Europe/Brussels, James A Baker wrote: >> It's control-option-command-8, according to: >> >> Seems like I missed this message, but FWIW, this is apparently dependent on your keyboard layout. With Belgian Azerty, it is ctrl-opt-cmd-* Jonas From Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.EDU Mon Apr 14 05:36:01 2003 From: Mark.A.ONeil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark O'Neil) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: apologies In-Reply-To: <200304131901.h3DJ1BL26227@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <156D6023-6DE4-11D7-A34C-000A9579F9D2@Dartmouth.edu> Apologies to the list for not changing the subject of my last post - I hate it when that happens.... regards, -m On Sunday, April 13, 2003, at 03:01 PM, macosx-admin-request@omnigroup.com wrote: > From: "Mark O'Neil" > To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > > Correct - the reason for the question was that someone had at one point > posted to this list saying that the MySQL Manager threw a bunch of > errors after they set the password. Hence the question - I have since > gone ahead and set the MySQL root password.... > > regards, > -m From magill at mcgillsociety.org Mon Apr 14 09:15:02 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: 10.2.4_5 Login problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3978E7F5-6E94-11D7-B77D-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 12:00 AM, Tane Potaka wrote: > Hi, > I have a G4 933 with 2 internal HDs. The problem I am experiencing when > logging in is this: > > When authenticating from a remote server, running 10.2.4, via netinfo > or > ldap3, using 'WorkGroup management', I get a dialogue box saying : > > "You have inserted a disk containing no volumes that Mac os X can > read. To > continue, click ignore."- with ignore being the only button. > > This dialog is being caused by the second HD as it doesn't occur when > this > drive is diconnected. > > Once you click the 'ignore' button, the drive mounts and appears to be > fine. > > It occurs with both local and remote users regardless of jumper > configuration on the HD. > > The problem only happens in 10.2.4 and up. > > I need to update my labs to 10.2.5 and although not a critical problem > it is > very annoying and is likely to confuse students. > > Has anyone else had this problem? I do not see that particular problem. However, since I upgraded to 10.2.5, I now find one of my FireWire Drives (VST 80GB) regularly sleeping and powering down. This is a change in behavior from 10.2.4. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From eweri at cunde.de Mon Apr 14 09:32:01 2003 From: eweri at cunde.de (Christoph Ewering) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: ip-routing and divert/nat on one interface Message-ID: <89EBCCFE-6E96-11D7-8A05-000A95A077F4@cunde.de> Hello! I have one problem and I was not able to solve it. I have a MacOSX server with two IP-addresses on interface en0. Lets say 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.100.3 Now I want to setup clients via dhcp with 192.168.100.x addresses but the router to the Internet is at 192.168.0.1. I switched on ip-forwarding on the server and set the default route to 192.168.0.1 I can ping 192.168.0.3 from a client at 192.168.100.x -- so looks like forwarding works. I can not ping the router 192.168.0.1 because the router knows nothing about 192.168.100.x. So I thought to use nat between 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.100.x, so the router does not need to know the 192.168.100.x net -- but i was not able to set it up :-( Every example i found for divert/nat always expects two physical interfaces. I told the router that it should send data for 192.168.100.x to 192.168.0.3 (first ip of the server), but it still does not work. Any ideas? The main problem is that I do not understand exactly how divert rules in ipfw and natd interact. Every hint is highly welcome. Bye, Christoph P.S. I think i am going to install a second nic, but I still wonder how divert/natd works. -- Dipl. Ing. Christoph Ewering C & E Informationsdienste GbR Autorisierter Apple H?ndler und Systemhaus in Paderborn Hatzfelder Str. 68F Tel.: 05254 - 80 68 66 33104 Paderborn Fax.: 05254 - 80 68 64 eweri@cunde.de Mob.: 0173- 566 266 1 http://www.cunde.de From adam.porter at usask.ca Mon Apr 14 10:33:01 2003 From: adam.porter at usask.ca (Adam Porter) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Writing Verbose boot-up to a file Message-ID: Hi, On my last reboot in verbose mode I noticed some errors. However, I was unable to read them because the errors were the last two lines before the log-in screen appears, and they were only on for a split second. Is there a way to write the logging from Verbose boot-up to a file? I believe the errors may help me solve my sendmail problem of not working after a reboot. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks. Adam From jonas at zeus.ugent.be Mon Apr 14 10:48:01 2003 From: jonas at zeus.ugent.be (Jonas Maebe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Writing Verbose boot-up to a file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <15065AB0-6EA1-11D7-87BB-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> On maandag, apr 14, 2003, at 19:31 Europe/Brussels, Adam Porter wrote: > On my last reboot in verbose mode I noticed some errors. However, I > was unable to read them because the errors were the last two lines > before the log-in screen appears, and they were only on for a split > second. > > Is there a way to write the logging from Verbose boot-up to a file? > > I believe the errors may help me solve my sendmail problem of not > working after a reboot. dmesg |less less /var/log/system.log Jonas From adam.porter at usask.ca Mon Apr 14 11:55:01 2003 From: adam.porter at usask.ca (Adam Porter) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Sendmail errors on boot-up In-Reply-To: <15065AB0-6EA1-11D7-87BB-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> Message-ID: <9BC0A0B4-6EAA-11D7-BF25-0003939D1EBE@usask.ca> This message started from the logging of Verbose boot-up to file. I am having troubles with sendmail after a boot-up. I have shown a cleaned up version of the error messages below. The last log entry (shown) seems to point to the problem, but I don't know how to fix it. In my quest to fix my sendmail problem I have also found an error on boot-up with the IOAudioControl. I am not quiet sure what this is, but I am not experiencing any audio problems. The only minor problem that I am aware of is the balance is always a little off of center after a reboot. Any Ideas? > On maandag, apr 14, 2003, at 19:31 Europe/Brussels, Adam Porter wrote: > >> On my last reboot in verbose mode I noticed some errors. However, I >> was unable to read them because the errors were the last two lines >> before the log-in screen appears, and they were only on for a split >> second. >> >> Is there a way to write the logging from Verbose boot-up to a file? >> >> I believe the errors may help me solve my sendmail problem of not >> working after a reboot. > > dmesg |less This would only show the hardware start-up/checking part of the boot-up. However, I noticed audio error from this. IOAudioControl[0x2043c00]::setValue(0x1e7bd00) - Error 0xe00002c7 received from driver - value not set! Any ideas? > less /var/log/system.log This helped me find the errors I was looking for, and a few extras. A cleaned up version of the output: Apr 14 11:39:15 localhost ConsoleMessage: Starting mail services Apr 14 11:39:15 localhost SystemStarter: Starting mail services *snip* Apr 14 11:39:24 localhost root: setting hostname to phoenix.local. Apr 14 11:39:26 localhost SystemStarter: Waiting for Sendmail mail server Apr 14 11:39:43 localhost last message repeated 6 times *snip* Apr 14 11:40:04 localhost SystemStarter: Waiting for Sendmail mail server Apr 14 11:40:28 localhost last message repeated 8 times Apr 14 11:40:30 localhost sendmail[368]: My unqualified host name (localhost) unknown; sleeping for retry Adam From scrotch at sprynet.com Mon Apr 14 12:34:01 2003 From: scrotch at sprynet.com (Scott Saunders) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Sendmail errors on boot-up In-Reply-To: <9BC0A0B4-6EAA-11D7-BF25-0003939D1EBE@usask.ca> Message-ID: <03257ABA-6EB0-11D7-8D06-003065D644E8@sprynet.com> On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 01:55 PM, Adam Porter wrote: [snip] > Apr 14 11:40:04 localhost SystemStarter: Waiting for Sendmail mail > server > Apr 14 11:40:28 localhost last message repeated 8 times > Apr 14 11:40:30 localhost sendmail[368]: My unqualified host name > (localhost) unknown; sleeping for retry Sendmail can't find your computer's hostname. It tries to do this with a reverse lookup of your IP address (using a PTR record in your DNS setup). It tries twice, pausing in between. When it ultimately fails or finds phoenix.local, sendmail will start up with that weird name or "localhost". This can cause many problems including having much of your mail rejected by other servers. Having a reverse (PTR) record in your DNS will take care of that startup pause and many subsequent problems. hth, Scott Saunders From magill at mcgillsociety.org Mon Apr 14 15:01:25 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Writing Verbose boot-up to a file In-Reply-To: <15065AB0-6EA1-11D7-87BB-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> Message-ID: <6CC40572-6EC4-11D7-A73A-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 01:46 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: > On maandag, apr 14, 2003, at 19:31 Europe/Brussels, Adam Porter wrote: >> On my last reboot in verbose mode I noticed some errors. However, I >> was unable to read them because the errors were the last two lines >> before the log-in screen appears, and they were only on for a split >> second. >> >> Is there a way to write the logging from Verbose boot-up to a file? >> >> I believe the errors may help me solve my sendmail problem of not >> working after a reboot. > > dmesg |less > > less /var/log/system.log Neither of these locations captures ALL of the verbose boot information. There is quite a bit missed, especially things written (I'm guessing) to Standard Error, instead of Standard Out, which are normally the things you want or need. Apple's normal procedure for capturing this information is to use a second system (or hard copy) to capture the information. The procedure is documented someplace on the developer's website. Off hand, I don't recall where. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From ssen at opendarwin.org Mon Apr 14 15:50:01 2003 From: ssen at opendarwin.org (Shantonu Sen) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Writing Verbose boot-up to a file In-Reply-To: <6CC40572-6EC4-11D7-A73A-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> References: <6CC40572-6EC4-11D7-A73A-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> Message-ID: <59915AA6-6ECB-11D7-9121-000393BE5740@opendarwin.org> Maybe you can amend /etc/rc: SystemStarter -g ${VerboseFlag} ${SafeBoot} 2>&1 | tee /tmp/verboseboot.log Shantonu On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 5:59PM, William H. Magill wrote: > On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 01:46 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: >> On maandag, apr 14, 2003, at 19:31 Europe/Brussels, Adam Porter wrote: >>> On my last reboot in verbose mode I noticed some errors. However, I >>> was unable to read them because the errors were the last two lines >>> before the log-in screen appears, and they were only on for a split >>> second. >>> >>> Is there a way to write the logging from Verbose boot-up to a file? >>> >>> I believe the errors may help me solve my sendmail problem of not >>> working after a reboot. >> >> dmesg |less >> >> less /var/log/system.log > > Neither of these locations captures ALL of the verbose boot > information. There is quite a bit missed, especially things written > (I'm guessing) to Standard Error, instead of Standard Out, which are > normally the things you want or need. > > Apple's normal procedure for capturing this information is to use a > second system (or hard copy) to capture the information. The procedure > is documented someplace on the developer's website. Off hand, I don't > recall where. > > T.T.F.N. > William H. Magill > # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg > # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg > # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a > magill@mcgillsociety.org > magill@acm.org > magill@mac.com > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From dmz-lists at tffenterprises.com Mon Apr 14 16:23:01 2003 From: dmz-lists at tffenterprises.com (Daniel M. Zimmerman) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Any clue what this log message means? Message-ID: <2147483647.1050337344@[10.1.230.254]> One of my Mac OS X Server machines (a Beige G3 minitower) just spontaneously rebooted, and the following message was in its system.log: Apr 14 16:16:27 whitestar lookupd[281]: getpwnam_A - can't decode lookup value Apr 14 16:16:37 whitestar lookupd[281]: getpwnam_A - can't decode lookup value Apr 14 16:16:40 whitestar loginwindow[404]: (CSYNC DEBUG) : GetProfileBySpaceFromShmem returned NULL for 'GGGG' : Calling Dispatcher. Apr 14 16:16:40 whitestar reboot: rebooted by root Apr 14 16:16:41 whitestar syslogd: exiting on signal 15 (followed by the standard startup messages) There was nobody on the console, though I was actually using the AFP server at the time (playing music through iTunes, as it happens). I have no idea what that error logged by loginwindow means, and was wondering if anybody had any idea... Thanks! -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel M. Zimmerman TFF Enterprises M/S 256-80 - Caltech http://www.tffenterprises.com/ Pasadena, California 91125 USA dmz@tffenterprises.com From ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu Tue Apr 15 08:22:01 2003 From: ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu (Cunningham, Chad) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: backup ldap server Message-ID: Hi, We've configured a replica ldap server for our network and need to set up the clients to know about it as an additional server. Which brings up two questions... 1) To add a backup server, I'm assuming I just go into directory services and add the new server under LDAPv3, enabling both it and the current (main) server. Is this right? 2) To save me having to go around and do this on 80+ machines, any idea where this information is stored on the system? I'd much rather copy a file around, or run a command line comman remotely, than have to go around to all the machines to add this. From ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu Tue Apr 15 08:56:07 2003 From: ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu (Cunningham, Chad) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: backup ldap server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oops, found where data is stored, I knew I had seen it around the system... So just: > 1) To add a backup server, I'm assuming I just go into directory services > and add the new server under LDAPv3, enabling both it and the current > (main) server. Is this right? From osten2 at itab.com Tue Apr 15 10:41:01 2003 From: osten2 at itab.com (OSX) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: simple finder question Message-ID: Is the "always open next folder in same view" (or whatever) gone in Jaguar? I dug that feature. Thanks From corey at primarycolor.com Tue Apr 15 13:54:01 2003 From: corey at primarycolor.com (Corey Van Allen) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: OS-X server ldap client/server config Message-ID: <55394.206.135.156.28.1050439982.squirrel@qmail.primarycolor.com> Does anyone know of a good write up on setting up ldap based directory services on OS-X server and configuring the client access to it? I'm going through the admin guide pdf, but could some additional pointers. Corey From baf.cdb at verizon.net Tue Apr 15 16:40:01 2003 From: baf.cdb at verizon.net (Bret Alan) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: 10.2 server "allow users to log in from windows" Message-ID: Assuming you are only using a local netinfo database: What is the difference between using Password Server in Workgroup Manager to allow Windows users to login, or just leaving them on Basic password type and using the checkbox in System Preferences --> Accounts to "allow user to log in from windows"? I have looked around quite a bit and cannot find a simple answer to this question. Thanks. Bret From leonvs at occam.com Tue Apr 15 16:50:02 2003 From: leonvs at occam.com (Leon Towns-von Stauber) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: 10.2 server "allow users to log in from windows" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > What is the difference between using Password Server in Workgroup > Manager to allow Windows users to login, or just leaving them on Basic > password type and using the checkbox in System Preferences --> > Accounts to "allow user to log in from windows"? The option in Accounts Prefs adds ";LocalWindowsHash;" to the user's authentication_authority, and stores the password hash in /var/db/samba/hash/username. _____________________________________________________________ Leon Towns-von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/ Occam's Razor, System Admin & Author "We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!" From taylor at intuitive.com Tue Apr 15 17:14:01 2003 From: taylor at intuitive.com (Dave Taylor) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Can I install an OS to a non-boot disk? Message-ID: I am trapped in the bad Mac OS X 10.2.5 update trap with my TiBook and need to recover it to be usable in the next 72 hours (leaving for a trip). I figured I could hook it up in Firewire Target mode on my G4, then download 10.2.4 and pick that disk for the update, but the Apple Software Installer won't let me. I presume it's because it's not the boot disk on my G4, but surely there's some way to say "I don't care. Just do it." Anyone have any advice? I'd rather not reinstall Jaguar and then iteratively go through each of the updates to get back to 10.2.4 on my system... Peace, Dave Taylor ------------------------------------------------------------------ Intuitive Systems: Writing, Teaching, Speaking & Consulting ------------------------------------------------------------------ Your Daily Weirdness Quotient: http://www.topica.com/lists/pearls/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /mailman/archive/macosx-admin/attachments/20030415/b75554cc/attachment.html From baf.cdb at verizon.net Tue Apr 15 17:59:02 2003 From: baf.cdb at verizon.net (Bret Alan) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: 10.2 server "allow users to log in from windows" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks... but is that bad? Seems a lot easier to add users in the System Preferences, since it creates home directories automatically, and, of course, doesn't require using the flaky Password Server. Or I am looking at this all wrong? Bret At 4:49 PM -0700 04/15/03, Leon Towns-von Stauber wrote: >>What is the difference between using Password Server in Workgroup >>Manager to allow Windows users to login, or just leaving them on >>Basic password type and using the checkbox in System Preferences >>--> Accounts to "allow user to log in from windows"? > >The option in Accounts Prefs adds ";LocalWindowsHash;" to the >user's authentication_authority, and stores the password hash >in /var/db/samba/hash/username. > >_____________________________________________________________ >Leon Towns-von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/ >Occam's Razor, System Admin & Author >"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!" > >_______________________________________________ >MacOSX-admin mailing list >MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From mbovee at zoo.uvm.edu Tue Apr 15 19:28:01 2003 From: mbovee at zoo.uvm.edu (Michael Bovee) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Can I install an OS to a non-boot disk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tuesday, April 15, 2003, at 08:13 PM, Dave Taylor wrote: > I am trapped in the bad Mac OS X 10.2.5 update trap with my TiBook and > need to recover it to be usable in the next 72 hours... Hi Dave, I (fortunately) havent made this update yet, but if your problems are anything like the upgrade hell I had back in the 10.1 days, I think if there is a simple solution it might involve deleting a 'receipt' or two (1025 and 1024?) from the /Library/Receipts folder? Then maybe it will let you reinstall the 10.2.4 update, or going back to the latest Combo update you installed? Its probably more complicated than that, but this approach is simply one that worked for me when I was having trouble getting to 10.1.5 some time ago. But I'm just a caveman compared to you, so apologies if this is not the right way... ;0) --Michael Bovee -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 907 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/macosx-admin/attachments/20030415/e298aad4/attachment.bin From jonas at zeus.ugent.be Wed Apr 16 02:33:09 2003 From: jonas at zeus.ugent.be (Jonas Maebe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Can I install an OS to a non-boot disk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4783FD3E-6FEE-11D7-9299-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> On woensdag, apr 16, 2003, at 02:13 Europe/Brussels, Dave Taylor wrote: > I am trapped in the bad Mac OS X 10.2.5 update trap with my TiBook and > need to recover it to be usable in the next 72 hours (leaving for a > trip). I figured I could hook it up in Firewire Target mode on my G4, > then download 10.2.4 and pick that disk for the update, but the Apple > Software Installer won't let me. I presume it's because it's not the > boot disk on my G4, but surely there's some way to say "I don't care. > Just do it." I would recommend against doing that anyway, because it's possible that there are new or updated components in 10.2.5, which weren't updated by 10.2.4. The end result will be a mix of 10.2.4 and 10.2.5, which is asking for trouble. Better do an archive & install and then upgrade. It shouldn't take that long, since it preserves most settings. Jonas From leonvs at occam.com Wed Apr 16 10:37:03 2003 From: leonvs at occam.com (Leon Towns-von Stauber) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: 10.2 server "allow users to log in from windows" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > but is that bad? > > Seems a lot easier to add users in the System Preferences, since it > creates home directories automatically, and, of course, doesn't > require using the flaky Password Server. It's not "bad" for any reason I know of. Password Server buys you more than just SMB authentication: concealment of the password hash, centralized secure authentication for all purposes (not just SMB), etc. But the additional obscurity is both a feature and a hazard. >>> What is the difference between using Password Server in Workgroup >>> Manager to allow Windows users to login, or just leaving them on >>> Basic password type and using the checkbox in System Preferences --> >>> Accounts to "allow user to log in from windows"? >> >> The option in Accounts Prefs adds ";LocalWindowsHash;" to the >> user's authentication_authority, and stores the password hash >> in /var/db/samba/hash/username. _____________________________________________________________ Leon Towns-von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/ Occam's Razor, System Admin & Author "We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!" From jabaker at mac.com Wed Apr 16 11:43:01 2003 From: jabaker at mac.com (James A Baker) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: weird graphics and com.apple.CoreGraphics.plist? In-Reply-To: <200304141901.h3EJ14L13524@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: <2E1CB5A9-703B-11D7-8FD5-000393193AB6@mac.com> On Monday, Apr 13, 2003, at 16:02 US/Central, James A Baker wrote: > So, who can tell me how to set up my system where using this feature > [Cmd-Opt-Ctl-8] uses the negative *color* mode instead of negative > *b&w* mode?? *bump* I know it's not a "help me fix it" problem, since nothing's actually broken... But if anyone has any clue at all, I'd appreciate hearing it. :) TIA. -jab From dario at dndltd.com Wed Apr 16 13:21:01 2003 From: dario at dndltd.com (Dario) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Am I the only one? Message-ID: I have Xserver 10.2.4 and I'm trying to upload via ftp from the finder. The share mounts fine on the desktop but it tells me that I have no write permissions. If however, I mount usin AFP then it works just fine. Is it an OSX client issue, a server issue, or am I smoking something funny? :-) Dario From jonas at zeus.ugent.be Wed Apr 16 14:22:01 2003 From: jonas at zeus.ugent.be (Jonas Maebe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Am I the only one? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5C1D518E-7051-11D7-8744-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> On woensdag, apr 16, 2003, at 22:20 Europe/Brussels, Dario wrote: > I have Xserver 10.2.4 and I'm trying to upload via ftp from the > finder. The > share mounts fine on the desktop but it tells me that I have no write > permissions. If however, I mount usin AFP then it works just fine. > Is it > an OSX client issue, a server issue, or am I smoking something funny? > :-) The Finder only supports mounting ftp "volumes" as read-only (probably because ftp doesn't know file locking etc, so you can't really treat it properly as a file system, even though there are clients that try). Jonas From root at nimug.org Wed Apr 16 16:43:01 2003 From: root at nimug.org (Matt Johnston) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: LPR and IPP Printing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <12F12A39-7065-11D7-9C2C-000393DB4746@nimug.org> On Thursday, April 10, 2003, at 02:19 am, Remo Del Bello wrote: > Please excuse this very basic question, but... > > What is the difference between setting up IP printing via LPR vs. IPP? > I am > aware that by using LPR over PAP printing that I lose printer feedback > (printer jam, paper out, printing error, etc.). Does setting the > printer up > as an IPP printer provide this feedback? LPR is just printing over IP. IPP includes groups, authentication and a lot of other features. They may not be supported yet and the end result may not be better than LPR but the concept it better. From jwelch at aer.com Wed Apr 16 16:59:01 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: LPR and IPP Printing In-Reply-To: <12F12A39-7065-11D7-9C2C-000393DB4746@nimug.org> Message-ID: On 04/16/2003 19:42, "Matt Johnston" wrote: >> Please excuse this very basic question, but... >> >> What is the difference between setting up IP printing via LPR vs. IPP? >> I am >> aware that by using LPR over PAP printing that I lose printer feedback >> (printer jam, paper out, printing error, etc.). Does setting the >> printer up >> as an IPP printer provide this feedback? > > LPR is just printing over IP. So is IPP > > IPP includes groups, authentication and a lot of other features. They > may not be supported yet and the end result may not be better than LPR > but the concept it better. IPP is a bidirectional printing protocol that allows you to get the same features PAP has had for a decade over TCP/IP. Since IPP runs over HTTP, you can use it through a firewall easier. It also makes web configuration of printers far simpler. LPR is like throwing the print job over the fence and hoping paper comes out of the bottom of the fence. That's about the level of interaction you get with it. Fast, but stupid. john -- Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I From root at nimug.org Thu Apr 17 02:59:02 2003 From: root at nimug.org (Matt Johnston) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: LPR and IPP Printing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <21D11777-70BB-11D7-9D94-000393DB4746@nimug.org> On Thursday, April 17, 2003, at 12:58 am, John C. Welch wrote: >> LPR is just printing over IP. > > So is IPP Well, no, and you agree with me. IPP is not *just* printing over IP. It's printing over IP with lots of real cool shit as well. >> IPP includes groups, authentication and a lot of other features. They >> may not be supported yet and the end result may not be better than LPR >> but the concept it better. > IPP is a bidirectional printing protocol that allows you to get the > same > features PAP has had for a decade over TCP/IP. Since IPP runs over > HTTP, you > can use it through a firewall easier. It also makes web configuration > of > printers far simpler. All you need is support in the printer. Damn. > LPR is like throwing the print job over the fence and hoping paper > comes out > of the bottom of the fence. That's about the level of interaction you > get > with it. Fast, but stupid. And simple. M From jwelch at aer.com Thu Apr 17 03:38:01 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: LPR and IPP Printing In-Reply-To: <21D11777-70BB-11D7-9D94-000393DB4746@nimug.org> Message-ID: On 04/17/2003 05:58, "Matt Johnston" wrote: >> So is IPP > > Well, no, and you agree with me. IPP is not *just* printing over IP. > It's printing over IP with lots of real cool shit as well. What the protocol does is immaterial. It's still just printing over IPP. >> IPP is a bidirectional printing protocol that allows you to get the >> same >> features PAP has had for a decade over TCP/IP. Since IPP runs over >> HTTP, you >> can use it through a firewall easier. It also makes web configuration >> of >> printers far simpler. > > All you need is support in the printer. > > Damn. You can hook a non-IPP printer to an IPP print server. > >> LPR is like throwing the print job over the fence and hoping paper >> comes out >> of the bottom of the fence. That's about the level of interaction you >> get >> with it. Fast, but stupid. > > And simple. And error prone under heavy usage without a print server, etc. Simple != good in every case. DOS being a perfect example. john -- "He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened. He who conquers others has physical strength. He who conquers himself is strong." -Tao Te Ching From mbovee at zoo.uvm.edu Thu Apr 17 12:24:01 2003 From: mbovee at zoo.uvm.edu (Michael Bovee) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: disk copy for bootable OS9 partition? Message-ID: <9A89AF1A-7109-11D7-87C8-0050E460471E@zoo.uvm.edu> Hello, I have tried (and failed) to use disk copy (on 10.2.3) to make a backup.dmg file of my OS9.2.2 partition, that I hoped could be used to 'restore' a bootable OS9 system in the same place, same disk. Is this simply not one of DiskCopy's capabilities, or have I overlooked a special setting for making such a dmg file? Maybe this can be done properly in a Terminal? Thanks, --Michael From mbovee at zoo.uvm.edu Thu Apr 17 13:10:01 2003 From: mbovee at zoo.uvm.edu (Michael Bovee) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: disk copy for bootable OS9 partition? In-Reply-To: <9F0EC321-710C-11D7-A4D2-000393D42984@epicware.com> Message-ID: <898BD066-7110-11D7-87C8-0050E460471E@zoo.uvm.edu> > On Thursday, April 17, 2003, at 2:20PM, Michael Bovee wrote: >> have tried (and failed) to use disk copy (on 10.2.3) to make a >> backup.dmg file of my OS9.2.2 partition, that I hoped could be used >> to 'restore' a bootable OS9 system in the same place, same disk. On Thursday, April 17, 2003, at 03:41 PM, Eric Peyton wrote: > Did you try using asr (Apple Software Restore)? > man asr > Eric Aha. That looks like the ticket. Very nice! Thanks for the tip, Eric. --Michael From schreian at bc.edu Thu Apr 17 13:21:03 2003 From: schreian at bc.edu (Tony Schreiner) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: apache, php and sendmail Message-ID: <0E459B9A-7112-11D7-B7A0-000A95686418@bc.edu> On a OS X Server 10.1.4 I'm having this problem A PHP form is calling the PHP mail function to send a message to another machine But the message does not get delivered, and in /var/log/mail.log you get this Apr 17 15:53:41 namedeleted sendmail[21879]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(www): /etc/mail/submit.cf: line 413: readcf: option RunAsUser: unknown user smmsp Apr 17 15:53:41 namedeleted sendmail[21879]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(www): /etc/mail/submit.cf: line 432: readcf: option TrustedUser: unknown user smmsp However smmsp is a proper user; the command id smmsp returns uid=25(smmsp) gid=25(smmsp) groups=25(smmsp) Moreover, I can run the command line mail program just fine, and can even send a message directly with /usr/sbin/sendmail It would seem to be an issue with either apache, or maybe username lookup in the OS.I don't know. I've seen some posts about similar type of problem occurring when upgrading, but I have not done that. Another bit of info --- this works just fine on my 10.2.5 non-server desktop. And I've gone as far as copying the sendmail binary and config files to the server and running those. But to no avail so far. Have a good weekend. Tony From magill at mcgillsociety.org Thu Apr 17 18:27:01 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: LPR and IPP Printing In-Reply-To: <21D11777-70BB-11D7-9D94-000393DB4746@nimug.org> Message-ID: On Thursday, April 17, 2003, at 05:58 AM, Matt Johnston wrote: >> LPR is like throwing the print job over the fence and hoping paper >> comes out >> of the bottom of the fence. That's about the level of interaction you >> get >> with it. Fast, but stupid. > > And simple. Simple is correct... LPR has been universally acknowledged to be seriously brain dead for years. It works fine for direct, serially attached printers printing ASCII text when accompanied by a printcap guru. Yes, the protocol is simple, that's why it doesn't work the way most everybody in the world expects printing to work. Printcap and termcap are virtually identical for a reason -- they both represent state of the art circa 1980. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From baf.cdb at verizon.net Thu Apr 17 19:27:01 2003 From: baf.cdb at verizon.net (Bret Alan) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: 10.2 resolution settings Message-ID: Hi all (again), I have seen this covered before, but not to this extent: I accidentally clicked on a resolution to high for my monitor on a 10.2 client, so it went out of sync. I booted into single-user mode and deleted /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist as has worked for me in the past. Still no sync. I rebooted, zapped the pram a few times, and deleted the plist file again, just to be safe. Then I got the gui until after login, when it prompty went out of sync again. I finally had to hook up another monitor to fix it. So I am baffled: Where is 10.2 keeping its resolution settings? Thanks. Bret From lists at colorremedies.com Thu Apr 17 20:50:01 2003 From: lists at colorremedies.com (Chris Murphy) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Retrospect won't restore Desktop folder Message-ID: This is weird... My sister's iBook was in total disarray so I decided to start over. She had a current Restrospect backup, which I did a verify on and Retrospect said no problem. I wiped the drive and did a restore of the drive, again Retrospect did not complain. I noticed later that the OS 9 Desktop folder did NOT restore (HD:Desktop folder). The log reports no errors. I've tried to restore the Desktop folder manually. Retrospect's restore dialog says it's restoring files, then says "Execution completed successfully" and lists the number of files and the number of MB restored. Log files concurs. But the Desktop folder isn't restored - only an empty folder with the name of the backup set is created. I can restore any files and/or folders from this backupset successfully EXCEPT for anything contained in the Desktop folder. I've tried rebuilding the catalog file - Retrospect still says it's restored the files, but they aren't restored. I'm at a loss as to what the deal is. Any suggestions? Chris Murphy From wagner at math.uh.edu Thu Apr 17 21:14:03 2003 From: wagner at math.uh.edu (David H. Wagner) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Retrospect won't restore Desktop folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <26BC5990-7154-11D7-97DD-0050E4666B52@math.uh.edu> Maybe the Desktop is invisible? Did you open a terminal and "ls -a" the restore directory? You might post this on Dantz's Retrospect support forum. http://dantz1.conxion.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php David Wagner On Thursday, April 17, 2003, at 10:48 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > I've tried to restore the Desktop folder manually. Retrospect's > restore dialog says it's restoring files, then says "Execution > completed successfully" and lists the number of files and the number > of MB restored. Log files concurs. But the Desktop folder isn't > restored - only an empty folder with the name of the backup set is > created. I can restore any files and/or folders from this backupset > successfully EXCEPT for anything contained in the Desktop folder. From marco at vampiresoft.com Thu Apr 17 22:57:01 2003 From: marco at vampiresoft.com (Marco Bambini) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: PackageMaker Message-ID: I need to create a simple installer application that works with all the version of MacOS X 10.x I have all the developers tools but I need to know what is the best version to use and how I can extract it from the developer cd (without installing it). Thanks for the replies. Regards, Marco Bambini From mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de Fri Apr 18 04:19:01 2003 From: mark.asbach at post.rwth-aachen.de (Mark Asbach) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: 10.2 resolution settings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <73795FDE-718D-11D7-8F94-000393449862@post.rwth-aachen.de> Hi Bret, > Then I got the gui until after login, when it prompty went out of sync > again. > So I am baffled: Where is 10.2 keeping its resolution settings? Regarding the fact that it goes away after login, I'd suspect that there might be a user-dependant resolution setting. Try to delete /Users/bret/Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.*.plist Greetings from (currently) sunny Aachen, Mark From dreamless at attbi.com Fri Apr 18 04:32:04 2003 From: dreamless at attbi.com (Nick Zitzmann) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: 10.2 resolution settings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <56F8158A-7191-11D7-80C9-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> On Thursday, April 17, 2003, at 07:26 PM, Bret Alan wrote: > So I am baffled: Where is 10.2 keeping its resolution settings? It's stored in several places: 1. PRAM (hold down Cmd-Option-P-R on startup to reset this) 2. /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist 3. ~/Library/Preferences/ByHost/com.apple.windowserver.*.plist Nick Zitzmann AIM/iChat: dragonsdontsleep Check out my software page: http://dreamless.home.attbi.com/ "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." - Metal Gear Solid 2 From njriley at uiuc.edu Fri Apr 18 04:44:01 2003 From: njriley at uiuc.edu (Nicholas Riley) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Retrospect won't restore Desktop folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030418114322.GB3357971@uiuc.edu> On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 09:48:54PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > This is weird... > > My sister's iBook was in total disarray so I decided to start over. She > had a current Restrospect backup, which I did a verify on and > Retrospect said no problem. I wiped the drive and did a restore of the > drive, again Retrospect did not complain. I noticed later that the OS 9 > Desktop folder did NOT restore (HD:Desktop folder). The log reports no > errors. > > I've tried to restore the Desktop folder manually. Retrospect's restore > dialog says it's restoring files, then says "Execution completed > successfully" and lists the number of files and the number of MB > restored. Log files concurs. But the Desktop folder isn't restored - > only an empty folder with the name of the backup set is created. I can > restore any files and/or folders from this backupset successfully > EXCEPT for anything contained in the Desktop folder. > > I've tried rebuilding the catalog file - Retrospect still says it's > restored the files, but they aren't restored. I'm at a loss as to what > the deal is. Any suggestions? You're restoring to OS X? Try checking in //Desktop Folder. I've had problems with restoring individual files on the root volume where it doesn't recognize that the root of the root volume should actually be /. -- =Nicholas Riley | Pablo Research Group, Department of Computer Science and Medical Scholars Program, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign From dario at dndltd.com Fri Apr 18 05:12:00 2003 From: dario at dndltd.com (Dario) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Am I the only one? In-Reply-To: <5C1D518E-7051-11D7-8744-003065D3FF28@zeus.ugent.be> Message-ID: > > On woensdag, apr 16, 2003, at 22:20 Europe/Brussels, Dario wrote: > >> I have Xserver 10.2.4 and I'm trying to upload via ftp from the >> finder. The >> share mounts fine on the desktop but it tells me that I have no write >> permissions. If however, I mount usin AFP then it works just fine. >> Is it >> an OSX client issue, a server issue, or am I smoking something funny? >> :-) > > The Finder only supports mounting ftp "volumes" as read-only (probably > because ftp doesn't know file locking etc, so you can't really treat it > properly as a file system, even though there are clients that try). OK, that's what I thought. Now, why can't I mount my Xserver on a Win2k box via network neighborhood using smb? I believe all I need to type is \\myserver.com or \\myserver.com\share. Unfortunately it either does not work or it keeps telling me that I have no access permissions (even when I use me and my admin password). Dario From osten2 at itab.com Fri Apr 18 06:01:01 2003 From: osten2 at itab.com (OSX) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: daily, weekly, monthly root mail Message-ID: I upgraded the system software and mail to root from the daily, weekly, monthly scripts stopped. I found /var/root/.forward and deleted the line "/dev/null". In the daily script: if [ -f /etc/security ]; then echo "" echo "Running security:" sh /etc/security 2>&1 | sendmail root fi There was no /etc/security file so I did a #touch /etc/security and now it sends root an empty mail. ## What is supposed to be in that security file. The 10.1.5 /etc/crontab has lines like these: sh /etc/daily 2>&1 | mail -s "`hostname` daily output" root BUT 10.2.4 /etc/crontab: root periodic daily ## How does 10.2.4 mean to get root it's maintenance mail? THanks a lot, Sam From jonas at zeus.ugent.be Fri Apr 18 06:51:01 2003 From: jonas at zeus.ugent.be (Jonas Maebe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Am I the only one? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On vrijdag, apr 18, 2003, at 14:11 Europe/Brussels, Dario wrote: > OK, that's what I thought. Now, why can't I mount my Xserver on a > Win2k box > via network neighborhood using smb? I believe all I need to type is > \\myserver.com or \\myserver.com\share. Unfortunately it either does > not > work or it keeps telling me that I have no access permissions (even > when I > use me and my admin password). You have to enable Windows File Sharing in the Sharing panel of the system preferences. Furhter, if the account you are using was created in 10.1 or earlier, you have to change its password to generate a samba password (you can use the same password again, of course). Jonas From jonas at zeus.ugent.be Fri Apr 18 06:53:02 2003 From: jonas at zeus.ugent.be (Jonas Maebe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: daily, weekly, monthly root mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On vrijdag, apr 18, 2003, at 15:00 Europe/Brussels, OSX wrote: > ## How does 10.2.4 mean to get root it's maintenance mail? Add MAILTO=osten2@itab.com to /etc/crontab Jonas From dario at dndltd.com Fri Apr 18 07:04:00 2003 From: dario at dndltd.com (Dario) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:40 2005 Subject: Am I the only one? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > On vrijdag, apr 18, 2003, at 14:11 Europe/Brussels, Dario wrote: > >> OK, that's what I thought. Now, why can't I mount my Xserver on a >> Win2k box >> via network neighborhood using smb? I believe all I need to type is >> \\myserver.com or \\myserver.com\share. Unfortunately it either does >> not >> work or it keeps telling me that I have no access permissions (even >> when I >> use me and my admin password). > > You have to enable Windows File Sharing in the Sharing panel of the > system preferences. Furhter, if the account you are using was created > in 10.1 or earlier, you have to change its password to generate a samba > password (you can use the same password again, of course). > > Jonas > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin Windows file sharing is enabled. Brand new installation running 10.2.4. I can see the server in my network neighborhood under computers near me or entire network. What I can't do is add it as a network place, the idea is to be able to share files with a couple of clients over the internet. I know I can use ftp and webdav. I just want to use this instead for now. Thanks for all the responses so far. D. From lists at colorremedies.com Fri Apr 18 08:53:11 2003 From: lists at colorremedies.com (Chris Murphy) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Retrospect won't restore Desktop folder In-Reply-To: <26BC5990-7154-11D7-97DD-0050E4666B52@math.uh.edu> Message-ID: On Thursday, April 17, 2003, at 10:13 PM, David H. Wagner wrote: > Maybe the Desktop is invisible? Did you open a terminal and "ls -a" > the restore directory? That's it! Jeeez... Chris Murphy From Richard.E.Brown at DARTWARE.COM Fri Apr 18 11:53:01 2003 From: Richard.E.Brown at DARTWARE.COM (Richard E. Brown) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Printing from OSX to Canon i850 via HawkingTech print server Message-ID: <278539@blitz1.dartware.com> Folks: We have a HawkingTech print server (H-PS1U) connected via USB to a Canon i850 printer. We can print fine from from our Windows computers. But I can't see it from MacOS X. When I hitch this printer up to an Airport Extreme, Rendezvous does its magic, and I can print to the computer from OS X. But I can't see it from the Windows computers. Can anyone give me guidance for making this work for both kinds of computers (MacOS & Windows) on either of the print servers? (I don't care which...) Thanks! Rich Brown richard.e.brown@dartware.com Dartware, LLC http://www.dartware.com 10 Buck Road, PO Box 130 Telephone: 603-643-2268 Hanover, NH 03755-0130 USA Fax: 603-643-2289 From bstlaurent at okiok.com Fri Apr 18 17:35:05 2003 From: bstlaurent at okiok.com (Blaise St-Laurent) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: recovering data from corrupted diskimage? Message-ID: I work primarily off a powerbook, keeping all of my sensitive data in an encrypted sparseimage that i created using hdiutil. My system refused to wake out of sleep this afternoon, with my only recourse being to pull the battery and restart. Unfortunately, my secure image was mounted at the time :( . The sudden downtime has corrupted the image. Are there any tools that i can use to recover the data that was in the Image? I still have the passphrase, and 95% of what was on there was checked into CVS, but of course, that final 5% is what i need right now :( Tools, commercial or opensource, or a method of mounting the drive long enough to pull some semblance of data off there would be great. Also, is there any way to make these diskimages a little more resilliant to the occasional error? Thanks in advance, Blaise St-Laurent From ssen at opendarwin.org Fri Apr 18 17:52:00 2003 From: ssen at opendarwin.org (Shantonu Sen) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: recovering data from corrupted diskimage? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: try navigating to the enclosing directory in Termin.app, then "hdid -nomount foo.sparseimage" You will be prompted for your passphrase, but the volume will not be visibly mounted. Use Disk Utility to repair the volume. Use "hdiutil eject disk2", where disk2 is whatever the "hdid" invocation printed. Then you should be able to resume using it as before. Shantonu On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 8:34PM, Blaise St-Laurent wrote: > I work primarily off a powerbook, keeping all of my sensitive data in > an encrypted sparseimage that i created using hdiutil. > > My system refused to wake out of sleep this afternoon, with my only > recourse being to pull the battery and restart. > > Unfortunately, my secure image was mounted at the time :( . The sudden > downtime has corrupted the image. Are there any tools that i can use > to recover the data that was in the Image? I still have the > passphrase, and 95% of what was on there was checked into CVS, but of > course, that final 5% is what i need right now :( > > Tools, commercial or opensource, or a method of mounting the drive > long enough to pull some semblance of data off there would be great. > > Also, is there any way to make these diskimages a little more > resilliant to the occasional error? > > Thanks in advance, > > Blaise St-Laurent > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From mbartosh at mac.com Fri Apr 18 17:56:02 2003 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: recovering data from corrupted diskimage? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:34 PM -0400 4/18/03, Blaise St-Laurent wrote: >Also, is there any way to make these diskimages a little more >resilliant to the occasional error? Don't use a sparseimage. Where on earth did you. From the manpage: SPARSE images (and shadow files) are designed to be used during intermediate steps in the process of creating other images (eg. UDZO) when final image sizes are unknown. Such grow- able files should not be used for persistent storage because their internal structure exac- erbates any fragmentation introduced by the filesystem. From bstlaurent at okiok.com Fri Apr 18 18:00:01 2003 From: bstlaurent at okiok.com (Blaise St-Laurent) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: recovering data from corrupted diskimage? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <354A6EC6-7202-11D7-A9D4-000A957937B8@okiok.com> Great. Last time i use a macosxhints hint without doing thorough research. I made it when i was still fairly new to MacOSX, and i've been using it for a couple of months. The idea being that i had an encrypted drive that automatically resized itself when needed, so i didn't have a couple of gig of unused space sitting around. I'm just going to create a regular encrypted image of a smaller size. if i need more, i'll create a new one and copy stuff over. Thanks for the heads up. On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 08:55 PM, Michael Bartosh wrote: > At 8:34 PM -0400 4/18/03, Blaise St-Laurent wrote: >> Also, is there any way to make these diskimages a little more >> resilliant to the occasional error? > > Don't use a sparseimage. Where on earth did you. From the manpage: > > > SPARSE images (and shadow files) are designed > to be used during intermediate steps in > the > process of creating other images (eg. > UDZO) > when final image sizes are unknown. > Such grow- > able files should not be used for > persistent > storage because their internal > structure exac- > erbates any fragmentation introduced by > the > filesystem. > > Blaise St-Laurent Senior Security Architect 613-266-4258 ____________________________________________________________________ Okiok Data http://www.okiok.com (450) 681-1681 Solutions de s?curit? d'entreprise et d'affaires ?lectroniques Enterprise and e-business security solutions This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary, confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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From baf.cdb at verizon.net Fri Apr 18 21:35:01 2003 From: baf.cdb at verizon.net (Bret Alan) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: 10.2 resolution settings In-Reply-To: <73795FDE-718D-11D7-8F94-000393449862@post.rwth-aachen.de> References: <73795FDE-718D-11D7-8F94-000393449862@post.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: Thanks all. Deleting ~/Library/Preferences/ByHost/com.apple.windowserver.*.plist does the trick. I missed that location. Sorry. Bret At 1:03 PM +0200 04/18/03, Mark Asbach wrote: >Hi Bret, > >>Then I got the gui until after login, when it prompty went out of sync again. >>So I am baffled: Where is 10.2 keeping its resolution settings? > >Regarding the fact that it goes away after login, I'd suspect that >there might be a user-dependant resolution setting. Try to delete > > /Users/bret/Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.*.plist > >Greetings from (currently) sunny Aachen, > >Mark > > >_______________________________________________ >MacOSX-admin mailing list >MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From iloatheny at mailworks.org Sun Apr 20 19:00:04 2003 From: iloatheny at mailworks.org (Andy Park) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: umount troubles Message-ID: Many times I end up in a situation where an nfs or webdav mount refuses to unmount. The symptoms of umount(8) vary, from errors stating that it couldn't find the host/dir to a process hang which refuses -HUP. Is this a (known) problem with the kernel? Should I just give up clean unmounts until the next revision from Apple? From magill at mcgillsociety.org Mon Apr 21 07:17:01 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: umount troubles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sunday, April 20, 2003, at 09:58 PM, Andy Park wrote: > Many times I end up in a situation where an nfs or webdav mount > refuses to unmount. The symptoms of umount(8) vary, from errors > stating that it couldn't find the host/dir to a process hang which > refuses -HUP. > > Is this a (known) problem with the kernel? Should I just give up clean > unmounts until the next revision from Apple? I don't know Webdav, but NFS is notorious for mount/unmount problems. It has nothing really to do with Apple (since NFS is Sun's mess anyway) or the kernel but with NFS itself. NFS is a cute idea, but not a good idea. It is very old technology which means that, sadly, the design has not been improved upon for years. (And we have had many, many years since NFS was "invented.") Just because it is a "standard," widely adopted and implemented, does not mean that it is "good." NFS has a lot of "philosophical" problems. The first and most important thing to remember is -- Computers are LITERAL! They only do what some programmer has told them to do... not what YOU want or expect them to do. If that programmer thinks one thing is important, but you don't consider it important, guess who wins. In general, NFS is EXTREMELY dependent upon network connectivity and server functioning to function at all -- which has zero to do with the conditions of/at the client. NFS works fine if the network connection between the server and the client is intact and as long as both ends have not been rebooted or otherwise restarted. For instance, If you have an error message "couldn't find host" -- that normally means that there is some kind of network problem between you and the server. The NFS code is attempting to dialog with the server to tell it that the client is going away (unmounting) but can't communicate. NFS expects to be able to communicate over the net. When it can't, it doesn't work very well. It has a very bad habit of giving you an explicitly correct error message, and then not doing what you want it to do. (But it is doing what it is designed/programmed to do.) Because NFS is dealing with an unreliable network, (and despite what you may want to believe, the Internet is NOT reliable), NFS has many timers and retries built into the protocol to attempt to make the connection robust in order to protect your data. HUP is a signal that says, "ok, the connection has dropped, go through your hang-up routine." Well, that is what NFS is already doing, when the connection drops. Except that it waits around a while to try to complete whatever it was doing and to pass various information to and from the server as part of the hang-up process. But because the communications link is down, the hang-up has to time-out before it completes. The only thing which will make the client side quit waiting around is a -KILL (9). Will you have data corruption problems? With NFS, you never know until you try it again later. Especially, if there is any kind of performance caching involved. That's why read-only NFS mounts are preferred over read-write mounts. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From janos.lobb at yale.edu Mon Apr 21 08:32:01 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Dock Altzheimer or quantum-tunneling to the trash Message-ID: <59BBA180-740E-11D7-B6D8-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> This is what I wrote last November: I get a notice from OmniWeb that a new version is available. I take on the offer and download it. Before the drag install I trash the old app and move the old app icon out from the Dock into a nice cloud. After the drag install I dragged the icon of the app down into the Dock and clicking on it immediately produced a crash. Launching it by double clicking on the app itself worked fine. So I cloudized the icon from the Dock and dragged the icon from the app again down to the Dock. Launching it from the Dock it crashed again. Then looking into console I found: dyld: /Volumes/Apps/.Trashes/501/OmniWeb.app/Contents/MacOS/OmniWeb can't get realpath of executable: /Volumes/Apps/.Trashes/501/OmniWeb.app/Contents/MacOS/OmniWeb (Permission denied, errno = 13) Oct 1 17:28:43 Hun crashdump: Crash report written to: /Users/janos/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/OmniWeb.crash.log despite all my efforts I mentioned above. Emptying the trash solved the problem, but I suspect that there is a bug in the OS. Why for God's sake would the newly created icon on the Dock look for the old application in the Trash, unless Apple is not updating correctly the link of the icons in the Dock with the location of the application. I am using 10.2.5/6L29 and the thing just happened again. What is that - now politically incorrect :) - French sound saying says ? It is deja vu all over again. J?nos ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From egarneau at mac.com Mon Apr 21 13:34:19 2003 From: egarneau at mac.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9ric_Garneau?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Print Queues Message-ID: <79E9A57F-7437-11D7-AC8A-000393829720@mac.com> (Sorry if that's been answered before) Is there a way to specify in which AppleTalk zone to put a printer queue created with OS X 10.2 Server's print service? Another question I get from my users, is how can we force folders (newly created and old ones) to always display in list view, either connecting from Mac OS 9 or Mac OS X. Thanks -- Eric Garneau egarneau@mac.com From matthew at wocwa.com Mon Apr 21 21:53:02 2003 From: matthew at wocwa.com (Matthew Healey) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Monitor Resolutions Message-ID: Hi all, I am trying to find a way to force B&W G3's and Graphite G4's to boot up with a preset resolution on the graphics card without a monitor connected. I have a KVM for four computers and if I want each machine to boot with the correct video settings (1024x768@60Hz) I have to switch the KVM to that machine and then boot it, switch to the next machine and boot that... etc. Is there a pass-through adapter that I can set to the above resolution so the Mac thinks a monitor is connected and sets the graphics card to the correct setting? Preferably VGA to VGA. Regards Matthew Healey -- Matthew Healey Information Systems Western Orthopaedic Clinic matthew@wocwa.com Phone: +61 (08) 9489 8700 Fax: +61 (08) 9381 8300 Suite 213 25 McCourt Street Subiaco 6008 Western Australia From magill at mcgillsociety.org Tue Apr 22 07:48:50 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Monitor Resolutions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <29BD8DF7-74D1-11D7-B52D-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> On Tuesday, April 22, 2003, at 12:52 AM, Matthew Healey wrote: > I am trying to find a way to force B&W G3's and Graphite G4's to boot > up > with a preset resolution on the graphics card without a monitor > connected. > > I have a KVM for four computers and if I want each machine to boot > with the > correct video settings (1024x768@60Hz) I have to switch the KVM to that > machine and then boot it, switch to the next machine and boot that... > etc. > > Is there a pass-through adapter that I can set to the above resolution > so > the Mac thinks a monitor is connected and sets the graphics card to the > correct setting? Preferably VGA to VGA. If there is no monitor connected at power-up, the video shuts down (not just looses resolution.) I've always used the "dongles" from Raritan -- Mac Guardian (APSMAC). www.raritan.com, search for APSMAC. This plugs into the Mac as a keyboard, mouse and monitor; the remote KVM cables then plug into it. The Guardian lets the Mac (or Sun, or Alpha, or etc...) think that there is a monitor and keyboard always plugged in. I suspect there are other vendors who manufacture similar products. I've only used Raritan's. It is a "normal" problem. Talk to the tech support of your KVM switch manufacturer. They should be able to make recommendations. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From jwelch at aer.com Tue Apr 22 11:13:01 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFS Homedirs and Mac OS X Message-ID: I've tested this out, it works. (this is not the same as the CMU method.) This is for implementing Mac OS X Home Directories on AFS, (Andrew File System) servers, without needing a local home directory. This is only for Mac OS X without server at the moment. It works with Server and WGM too, but I'm not done writing that up yet. The docs assume you already have a functional AFS setup and proper Kerberos setups. It's somewhat MIT - centric, but that's where we set this up. It should translate to any AFS environment pretty well. john -- Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. -- Dave 'Preacher' Pace From egarneau at mac.com Tue Apr 22 12:01:04 2003 From: egarneau at mac.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9ric_Garneau?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Server oddities Message-ID: <6CB4503D-74F4-11D7-8ED5-000393829720@mac.com> Since a few weeks I have noticed two odd things with some Mac OS X 10.2 servers. The first one is a "Desktop" folder that appeared at the root of the hard drive. The other annoying thing is that when I connect to a server, I open some folders, copy some file from or to, and then try to unmount. It tells me that I have some file in use, even though I don't. What can I do to troubleshoot this? My account is an admin account. -- Eric Garneau egarneau@mac.com From Sherlock at rna.nl Tue Apr 22 12:26:10 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Movie-Grab? Message-ID: <2978EB22-74F8-11D7-B4A9-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> I would like to 'record' the screen for a time period so I can create a demo QuickTime movie for something. Is this possible? Thanks, G -- "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides From waltd at wdstudio.com Tue Apr 22 12:32:01 2003 From: waltd at wdstudio.com (Walter Lee Davis) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Movie-Grab? In-Reply-To: <2978EB22-74F8-11D7-B4A9-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Message-ID: You want Snapz Pro X from Ambrosia Software. Comes free on all new Pro Macs, by the way. Walter On Tuesday, April 22, 2003, at 03:25 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote: > I would like to 'record' the screen for a time period so I can create > a demo QuickTime movie for something. Is this possible? > > Thanks, > > G > -- > "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From mrmacman_g4 at mac.com Tue Apr 22 15:20:14 2003 From: mrmacman_g4 at mac.com (Kyle Moffett) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFS Homedirs and Mac OS X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2E5B1DDF-7510-11D7-A11F-000393ACC76E@mac.com> On Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003, at 14:11 US/Eastern, John C. Welch wrote: > I've tested this out, it works. (this is not the same as the CMU > method.) > This is for implementing Mac OS X Home Directories on AFS, (Andrew File > System) servers, without needing a local home directory. > > > > This is only for Mac OS X without server at the moment. It works with > Server > and WGM too, but I'm not done writing that up yet. The docs assume you > already have a functional AFS setup and proper Kerberos setups. It's > somewhat MIT - centric, but that's where we set this up. It should > translate > to any AFS environment pretty well. Thanks, great!!! I have been confused as to the proper integration between SSH and homedirs, etc. I have some other questions, though. 1. What should the authentication order be if I want to add Kerberized LDAP into the picture? This is what I think it should be: 1. Kerberos V5 & V4 2. LDAP (For user info, homedir, etc) 3. AFS 2. Do I need to have the password in both Kerberos AND LDAP, or can I just put it in Kerberos. 3. I could never find a definitive answer as to whether I need krb524 to use AFS, can I just use krb5? 4. Also, can I just use "/afs/..." instead of "/Network/afs/..." in the home field in the LDAP database? I would like to share this same database with the Linux boxen here. 5. Finally, does anybody have any other links, docs, ideas, comments, etc for integrating Linux, Mac OS X, Kerberos V5, Windows XP, LDAP, Samba, and AFS, or any combination of those, together? Thanks a lot, Kyle Moffett -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS/IT/U d- s++:- a16 C++++>$ UB/L/X/*++++(+)>$ P+++(++++)>$ L+++(++) E W++(+) N+++(++) o? K? w---(-) O? M++ V? PS+() PE+(-) Y+ PGP? t+(+++) 5 X R? tv-(--) b++++(++) DI+ D+ G e->++++$ h! !r-- !y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From jwelch at aer.com Tue Apr 22 16:04:02 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFS Homedirs and Mac OS X In-Reply-To: <2E5B1DDF-7510-11D7-A11F-000393ACC76E@mac.com> Message-ID: On 04/22/2003 18:17, "Kyle Moffett" wrote: > On Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003, at 14:11 US/Eastern, John C. Welch wrote: >> I've tested this out, it works. (this is not the same as the CMU >> method.) >> This is for implementing Mac OS X Home Directories on AFS, (Andrew File >> System) servers, without needing a local home directory. >> >> >> >> This is only for Mac OS X without server at the moment. It works with >> Server >> and WGM too, but I'm not done writing that up yet. The docs assume you >> already have a functional AFS setup and proper Kerberos setups. It's >> somewhat MIT - centric, but that's where we set this up. It should >> translate >> to any AFS environment pretty well. > > Thanks, great!!! I have been confused as to the proper integration > between > SSH and homedirs, etc. > > I have some other questions, though. > > 1. What should the authentication order be if I want to add Kerberized > LDAP into the picture? This is what I think it should be: > 1. Kerberos V5 & V4 > 2. LDAP (For user info, homedir, etc) > 3. AFS I think it depends on load order. I know that without Kerberized LDAP, (which I have never played with), Kerb authentication happens last, unless you're doing all your login authentication against a KDC to even be allowed to log in. > > 3. I could never find a definitive answer as to whether I need krb524 to > use AFS, can I just use krb5? I don't know, but the OpenAFS site has some really good mailing lists, > > 4. Also, can I just use "/afs/..." instead of "/Network/afs/..." in the > home > field in the LDAP database? I would like to share this same database > with > the Linux boxen here. Well, for one, you aren't going to mount home directories in the same way, so you'd have to deal with that. /Network is a Mac OS X thing. If you're setting the Homedir path on a server, then it has to be /Network, otherwise you get a local /afs directory that contains the network /afs, but your homedir isn't really on AFS. This made us nuts for a few hours. > > 5. Finally, does anybody have any other links, docs, ideas, comments, > etc for integrating Linux, Mac OS X, Kerberos V5, Windows XP, LDAP, > Samba, and AFS, or any combination of those, together? http://www.openafs.org/ I know that at the moment, WinXP is being a problem child. john -- "If you're not gonna pull the trigger, don't point the gun." - James Baker From robinmcf at altern.org Wed Apr 23 00:53:04 2003 From: robinmcf at altern.org (Robin) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: launching perl script from aqua interface? In-Reply-To: <3E933502.27BDCE09@sheridanc.on.ca> Message-ID: <8E45DEA8-7560-11D7-AAFD-00039386EEA6@altern.org> On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 05:45 am, Ryan Suarez wrote: > > I have a perl script which i'd like users to run by simply clicking on > its link from the dock ................. How do I make this happen? > came late to this one but looks like it's worth posting - you don't need to do anything except change '.pl' to '.command' in the file name and make sure the resulting file is owned by the terninal app. Double clicking on the file icon thenceforth will run the script in a shell script HTH Robin From osxsrv-omnigroup at biermann.org Wed Apr 23 04:03:03 2003 From: osxsrv-omnigroup at biermann.org (philipp biermann) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: No Info.plist file in application bundle or no NSPrincipalClass in the Info.plist file Message-ID: Dear List, I built a small cocoa application which does, together with a cups-backend terminal-script, enable me to fax with my laserwriter 16/600PS-FAX. Until 10.2.5 this worked nicely. Now, my Appliation, which is called from the cups-script will terminate with the error: 2003-04-22 23:33:09.703 [5229] No Info.plist file in application bundle or no NSPrincipalClass in the Info.plist file, exiting I double checked the project Builder settings, everything looks correct. If I open the Application from the GUI it will start. Did apple change anything to cups which wont allow any more to call an appliation from a "backend" ? Below the script: the /Applications/psfax/faxsender.app/Contents/MacOS/faxsender is my Application which parses the postscript header, asks for the fax-number and modifies the print-file. depending on the exit-status, the job then will be deleted, printed or faxed. any guess why it wont start? thanks philipp Contens of /usr/libexec/cups/backend/psfax: --------- !/bin/sh # # Usage: psfax job user title copies options [filename] # # No arguments means show available devices... argv=$1 if test ${#argv} = 0; then echo "network psfax \"LW1600\" \"Fax VIA LW16-1600-FAX\"" exit 0 fi # Collect arguments... user=$2 copies=$4 argg=$5 if test ${#argg} -gt 0; then # Get print file from stdin; copies have already been handled... file=/tmp/$$.prn copies=1 cat > $file else # Print file is on command-line... file=$6 fi #fax or print or abort ? cp $file /Applications/psfax/temp.out /Applications/psfax/faxsender.app/Contents/MacOS/faxsender STAT=$? if [ $STAT = 0 ] then cat $file >>/Applications/psfax/fax.tmp rm -f $file cp /Applications/psfax/fax.tmp $file rm -f /Applications/psfax/fax.tmp rm -f /Applications/psfax/temp.out elif [ $STAT = "1" ] then #print normal /usr/sbin/alert Will_Print elif [ $STAT = "2" ] then #abort rm -f $file /usr/sbin/alert Fax_Transmission Aborted exit 0 elif [ $STAT = "3" ] then #hold rm -f $file /usr/sbin/alert Print_Queue_Stopped exit 1 else #error /usr/sbin/alert error_$STAT when_trying_to_fax rm -f $file exit 0 fi # Create a dummy cap.printers file for this printer based # upon a device URI of "cap://server/printer"... echo $PRINTER/$DEVICE_URI | \ awk -F/ '{print $1 "=" $5 ":LaserWriter@" $4}' > /tmp/$$.cap CAPPRINTERS=/tmp/$$.cap; export CAPPRINTERS # Send the file to the printer, once for each copy. This assumes that you # have properly initialized the cap.printers file... while [ $copies -gt 0 ]; do /bin/cat $file | /usr/bin/atprint "Laserwriter 16/600:LaserWriter@*">>/dev/null copies=`expr $copies - 1` done # Remove any temporary files... if test ${#argg} = 5; then /bin/rm -f $file fi /bin/rm -f /tmp/$$.cap exit 0 From mgraham at aquaflo.com Wed Apr 23 12:28:02 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port Message-ID: <94819F0C-75C1-11D7-8DAD-0050E4704A37@aquaflo.com> This has to be a simple thing: how does one kill a specific port that was left open by a defunct process? My co-worker has a program that telnets to a server and establishes a link on a different port. When he is finished, he logs off and quits the application, but the program leaves the newly-established port open. I realize the problem is two-fold. His Java program should be closing the port when it exits; but that is a programming problem for him to work out. I suspect that the answer will be embarrassingly simple, but I would just like to know, given an open port number, how to make it close. Thanks, Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply From leonvs at occam.com Wed Apr 23 12:42:03 2003 From: leonvs at occam.com (Leon Towns-von Stauber) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: <94819F0C-75C1-11D7-8DAD-0050E4704A37@aquaflo.com> Message-ID: <8B935A24-75C3-11D7-B883-003065A76B44@occam.com> > This has to be a simple thing: how does one kill a specific port that > was left open by a defunct process? > > My co-worker has a program that telnets to a server and establishes a > link on a different port. When he is finished, he logs off and quits > the application, but the program leaves the newly-established port > open. > > I realize the problem is two-fold. His Java program should be closing > the port when it exits; but that is a programming problem for him to > work out. > > I suspect that the answer will be embarrassingly simple, but I would > just like to know, given an open port number, how to make it close. Once you've grokked UNIX, this is one of the few (IMHO) things that seems like it should be simple, but isn't. There's no "killport port_num" command. Your best bet is to kill the process that's holding the port open. If you don't what that is, use "lsof -i". _____________________________________________________________ Leon Towns-von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/ Occam's Razor, System Admin & Author "We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!" From mgraham at aquaflo.com Wed Apr 23 13:35:03 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: <8B935A24-75C3-11D7-B883-003065A76B44@occam.com> Message-ID: On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 12:41 PM, Leon Towns-von Stauber wrote: > Once you've grokked UNIX, this is one of the few (IMHO) things > that seems like it should be simple, but isn't. There's no > "killport port_num" command. > I haven't been at this very long, but it is hard to imagine a Sys Admin who didn't need to kill a port. > Your best bet is to kill the process that's holding the port > open. If you don't what that is, use "lsof -i". That's it! Thank you. I had tried ps & who; should have thought of lsof. I had run an AIX system for a year or so before OS X, and I keep forgetting that we have that command. Thanks again, Leon. Marley G Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply From dreamless at attbi.com Wed Apr 23 14:22:29 2003 From: dreamless at attbi.com (Nick Zitzmann) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: [ANN] HenWen 2.0! Message-ID: HenWen 2.0 is out and now available for download from my Web page: HenWen is a complete front end for the Snort intrusion detection system, with support for all the rulesets, many preprocessors, Spade support, MySQL and ODBC database support, auto-blocking, real-time alert notifications, ruleset updating, and much more. It requires Mac OS X 10.2 or later; it works with OS X Server but it's not necessary. There are a vast amount of changes in this new version, including Snort 2.0.0 and better rule selection. It's like a whole new program, actually... See the above page for details. Nick Zitzmann AIM/iChat: dragonsdontsleep Check out my software page: http://dreamless.home.attbi.com/ "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." - Metal Gear Solid 2 From emaag at erols.com Wed Apr 23 16:36:02 2003 From: emaag at erols.com (Eric Maag) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Apple's Help is hosed! Message-ID: Hello, I've been having several problems using the Help Viewer application (2.0.1 (v79)). Here are some of the symptoms: 1) When I open an application's specific help file (e.g. Toast) on the right hand side tab, it loads it, with a list of the available choices on the left hand side frame. But when I click on one of the topics shown, nothing happens! It's like clicking a dead link. 2) Any new applications installed with help files will not show up within the right hand tab listing of files available. For example, I just installed CodeWarrior, and I have to drill down to the Documentation sub-folder and open the CodeWarrior help file for it to open in the viewer. I'm not sure what could be causing the 1st problem, but could the fact that I have applications on a separate partition be the cause of their help files not registering? Any and all help is appreciated. Eric Maag From emaag at erols.com Wed Apr 23 16:43:38 2003 From: emaag at erols.com (Eric Maag) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Sendmail errors on boot-up In-Reply-To: <03257ABA-6EB0-11D7-8D06-003065D644E8@sprynet.com> Message-ID: Scott, is there a good how-to that covers this? Or maybe a good document that I ought to read that covers this? Thanks, Eric Maag > From: Scott Saunders > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:33:47 -0500 > To: macosx-admin@omnigroup.com > Subject: Re: Sendmail errors on boot-up > > > On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 01:55 PM, Adam Porter wrote: > > [snip] > >> Apr 14 11:40:04 localhost SystemStarter: Waiting for Sendmail mail >> server >> Apr 14 11:40:28 localhost last message repeated 8 times >> Apr 14 11:40:30 localhost sendmail[368]: My unqualified host name >> (localhost) unknown; sleeping for retry > > Sendmail can't find your computer's hostname. It tries to do this with > a reverse lookup of your IP address (using a PTR record in your DNS > setup). It tries twice, pausing in between. When it ultimately fails or > finds phoenix.local, sendmail will start up with that weird name or > "localhost". This can cause many problems including having much of your > mail rejected by other servers. > > Having a reverse (PTR) record in your DNS will take care of that > startup pause and many subsequent problems. > > hth, > Scott Saunders > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From scrotch at sprynet.com Wed Apr 23 16:53:02 2003 From: scrotch at sprynet.com (Scott Saunders) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Sendmail errors on boot-up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9B556B32-75E6-11D7-AF8A-003065D644E8@sprynet.com> Well, does a book count as a "document"? O'Reilly's "DNS and Bind" is really good. The first four or five chapters will have you set. It's a worthwhile purchase if you're going to mess around with servers at all. DNS is pretty crucial. There maybe something good online. I know the Bind documentation is online, but it's not a fun read. If you're not handling DNS for your server, though, you should just get in touch with whoever is, and have them handle it. It's not hard to handle yourself, but you don't want to screw up anything else by having multiple claims on the same IP space. hth, Scott On Tuesday, April 22, 2003, at 06:01 PM, Eric Maag wrote: > Scott, is there a good how-to that covers this? Or maybe a good > document > that I ought to read that covers this? > > Thanks, > Eric Maag > >> Having a reverse (PTR) record in your DNS will take care of that >> startup pause and many subsequent problems. >> >> hth, >> Scott Saunders From shoop at iWiring.Net Wed Apr 23 21:04:02 2003 From: shoop at iWiring.Net (Dan Shoop) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 1:34 PM -0700 4/23/03, Marley Graham wrote: >On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 12:41 PM, Leon Towns-von Stauber wrote: > >>Once you've grokked UNIX, this is one of the few (IMHO) things >>that seems like it should be simple, but isn't. There's no >>"killport port_num" command. >> > >I haven't been at this very long, but it is hard to imagine a Sys >Admin who didn't need to kill a port. Ports don't live on their own, they are owned by processes, so you kill the process. The concept of "killing a port" is back-asswards. -dhan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Shoop shoop@iwiring.net Consulting Internet Architect shoop@mac.com pgp key fingerprint: FAC0 9434 B5A5 24A8 D0AF 12B1 7840 3BE7 3736 DE0B 'In Rahima Kuta [Iraq], a dusty collection of houses, the locals were already celebrating the imminent fall of Saddam Hussein. Fuwad, 32, said: "I have already killed two sheep to celebrate. When he is dead I will kill the five I have left." ' From Sherlock at rna.nl Thu Apr 24 07:08:01 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Which app? Message-ID: <50FF64C4-765E-11D7-B4A9-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> My disk has a couple of partitions with other Mac OS X installations on it (10.1, 10.2 without developer tools) for testing. These partitions are name Test1, Test2 etc. As a result, I hae multiple instances of certain apps on my system, say Previw.app lives in /Applications/Preview.app (Mac OS X 10.2.4), /Volumes/Test1/Applications/Preview.app (Mac OS X 10.2) and /Volumes/Test2/Applications/Preview.app (Mac OS X 10.1). What has started to happen recently is that when I click an attachment link in Mail.app for a PDF file, not the one in /Applications (which is also in my Dock) but one of the others is started (luckily the one from 10.2). Is there a way to fix this? Thanks, G -- "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides From mvanhorn at cs.wright.edu Thu Apr 24 07:22:00 2003 From: mvanhorn at cs.wright.edu (Mike VanHorn) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line Message-ID: Is it possible to share a folder from the command line? That is, not turn on the AFS (I know how to do that), but actually make a folder shared. Thanks! -- Mike VanHorn Senior Computer Systems Administrator College of Engineering and Computer Science Wright State University mvanhorn@cs.wright.edu 937-775-5157 http://www.cs.wright.edu/~mvanhorn/ From rorya at TrueStep.com Thu Apr 24 07:33:00 2003 From: rorya at TrueStep.com (Rory Arms) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Which app? In-Reply-To: <50FF64C4-765E-11D7-B4A9-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Message-ID: <7D6DA866-7661-11D7-9BE9-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> Unmount the other system slices. OSX will use the newest version of the application it can find, by default. By unmounting the others, it should prevent it from using those for additional applications. -rory On Thursday, Apr 24, 2003, at 10:09 US/Eastern, Gerben Wierda wrote: > My disk has a couple of partitions with other Mac OS X installations > on it (10.1, 10.2 without developer tools) for testing. These > partitions are name Test1, Test2 etc. > > As a result, I hae multiple instances of certain apps on my system, > say Previw.app lives in /Applications/Preview.app (Mac OS X 10.2.4), > /Volumes/Test1/Applications/Preview.app (Mac OS X 10.2) and > /Volumes/Test2/Applications/Preview.app (Mac OS X 10.1). > > What has started to happen recently is that when I click an attachment > link in Mail.app for a PDF file, not the one in /Applications (which > is also in my Dock) but one of the others is started (luckily the one > from 10.2). > > Is there a way to fix this? > > Thanks, > > G > -- > "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > -- Name: Rory Arms Email: rorya@TrueStep.com Tel: +1 859-225-3833 Time Zone: GMT -5 "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -Terry Pratchett. From mgraham at aquaflo.com Thu Apr 24 08:13:07 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99F62368-7666-11D7-B8BF-0050E4704A37@aquaflo.com> O.K.; I feel duly chastised for my inappropriate use of the term. We use Port Servers at all of our locations, to connect terminals to our main Application Server. When one of the terminals gets hung, we sometimes have to telnet to the Port Server and issue a "Kill Port #" (the manufacturer's designation) command. Obviously we are not really "killing" the port; we can use it without any further action after issuing that command. But I can appreciate your desire to stick to more precise terminology. Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply ============================ On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 09:03 PM, Dan Shoop wrote: > Ports don't live on their own, they are owned by processes, so you > kill the process. The concept of "killing a port" is back-asswards. From jon at holicow.com Thu Apr 24 08:28:01 2003 From: jon at holicow.com (Jon Nolan) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:03 AM -0400 4/24/03, Dan Shoop wrote: >At 1:34 PM -0700 4/23/03, Marley Graham wrote: >>On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 12:41 PM, Leon Towns-von Stauber wrote: >> >>>Once you've grokked UNIX, this is one of the few (IMHO) things >>>that seems like it should be simple, but isn't. There's no >>>"killport port_num" command. >>> >> >>I haven't been at this very long, but it is hard to imagine a Sys >>Admin who didn't need to kill a port. > >Ports don't live on their own, they are owned by processes, so you >kill the process. The concept of "killing a port" is back-asswards. Asking a question on this list can sometimes make you feel like one of those dreams where you show up at school dressed in only your underwear. Killing [an address that owns] a port is something very useful to me. Thanks to Leon for the lsof suggestion. Is there a way to list processes/ports for a certain user? I've tried the -u option outlined in the man page but couldn't seem to get it to work. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks, Jon From Sherlock at rna.nl Thu Apr 24 08:40:01 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Which app? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6B54FDEC-7666-11D7-8900-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> On Thursday, Apr 24, 2003, at 16:21 Europe/Amsterdam, someone wrote: > Try deleting your com.apple.LaunchServices.plist That did not help, I'm afraid. > On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 9:09AM, Gerben Wierda wrote: > >> My disk has a couple of partitions with other Mac OS X installations >> on it (10.1, 10.2 without developer tools) for testing. These >> partitions are name Test1, Test2 etc. >> >> As a result, I hae multiple instances of certain apps on my system, >> say Previw.app lives in /Applications/Preview.app (Mac OS X 10.2.4), >> /Volumes/Test1/Applications/Preview.app (Mac OS X 10.2) and >> /Volumes/Test2/Applications/Preview.app (Mac OS X 10.1). >> >> What has started to happen recently is that when I click an >> attachment link in Mail.app for a PDF file, not the one in >> /Applications (which is also in my Dock) but one of the others is >> started (luckily the one from 10.2). >> >> Is there a way to fix this? >> >> Thanks, >> >> G >> -- >> "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-admin mailing list >> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > G -- "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides From rorya at TrueStep.com Thu Apr 24 08:48:01 2003 From: rorya at TrueStep.com (Rory Arms) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <164542CE-766C-11D7-9BE9-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> Mike, I assume you mean AFP shares? Since you make reference to AppleFileServer If so, there is a free-ware Cocoa app called SharePoints.app that allows you to easily create AFP shares on your system. It is available from http://www.hornware.com. Even though it is a GUI application, what it really does, is set things up in your local NetInfo domain. If you use it once to create a share, then look at your local domain with nicl(1). You can use nicl(1) to look at what it does to setup a share in /config/SharePoints. You could then just use the terminal ni* tools to create another, manually. A good project idea would be to write a shell script that would allow you to easily create these from the command line. I don't know of any, anyhow. I know some of the structure for how it is defined in NetInfo changed between 10.1 and 10.2 and SharePoints.app accounts for this. So, any command line shell script or program would need to, as well. Generally, I don't use AFP, because of its proprietary nature. So, when I want to "make shares", I usually use NFS instead. AFP would be a good choice, only if you're dealing with OSXS, or Classic MacOS. Also, probably most hybrid MacOS & MacOS X apps, usually called Carbon/CFM, will only work with a dual-fork fs, so AFP would be necessary for those as well. So, it depends on the type of applications you will use across the LAN. -rory On Thursday, Apr 24, 2003, at 10:18 US/Eastern, Mike VanHorn wrote: > > Is it possible to share a folder from the command line? That is, not > turn on the AFS (I know how to do that), but actually make a folder > shared. > > Thanks! > > -- > Mike VanHorn > Senior Computer Systems Administrator > College of Engineering and Computer Science > Wright State University > mvanhorn@cs.wright.edu > 937-775-5157 > http://www.cs.wright.edu/~mvanhorn/ > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > -- Name: Rory Arms Email: rorya@TrueStep.com Tel: +1 859-225-3833 Time Zone: GMT -5 "Don't be a rebel, or a conformist they're the same thing, anyway. Find your own path, and stay on it." -Paul Vixie From rorya at TrueStep.com Thu Apr 24 09:07:01 2003 From: rorya at TrueStep.com (Rory Arms) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon, Well, everyone was a newbie at one time. Some people are offended when questions are asked that are (in their opinion) well documented. But, what is usually not realized by the ones "in the know", is that as a newbie, not knowing where to find the documentation is the problem. Regarding ports. As stated by someone earlier, you must instead, stop the process that controls the port. Once you do that, the port will be relinquished. Ports are managed through BSD socket APIs. Look at socket(2) if you want more details. As far as ps(1) usage. To show processes owned by a specific user: $ ps -U joe Where joe is the username. You should then get a list of all the processes that the user "joe" is running. From the ps(1) manual page: -U Display the processes belonging to the specified username. (note, it is an uppercase "U") Hope that helps, -rory On Thursday, Apr 24, 2003, at 11:25 US/Eastern, Jon Nolan wrote: > At 12:03 AM -0400 4/24/03, Dan Shoop wrote: >> At 1:34 PM -0700 4/23/03, Marley Graham wrote: >>> On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 12:41 PM, Leon Towns-von Stauber >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Once you've grokked UNIX, this is one of the few (IMHO) things >>>> that seems like it should be simple, but isn't. There's no >>>> "killport port_num" command. >>>> >>> >>> I haven't been at this very long, but it is hard to imagine a Sys >>> Admin who didn't need to kill a port. >> >> Ports don't live on their own, they are owned by processes, so you >> kill the process. The concept of "killing a port" is back-asswards. > > > Asking a question on this list can sometimes make you feel like one of > those dreams where you show up at school dressed in only your > underwear. > > Killing [an address that owns] a port is something very useful to me. > Thanks to Leon for the lsof suggestion. Is there a way to list > processes/ports for a certain user? I've tried the -u option outlined > in the man page but couldn't seem to get it to work. > > Any suggestions are appreciated. > > Thanks, > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > -- Name: Rory Arms Email: rorya@TrueStep.com Tel: +1 859-225-3833 Time Zone: GMT -5 "Some people have too much freedom" - GW Bush From jon at holicow.com Thu Apr 24 09:16:01 2003 From: jon at holicow.com (Jon Nolan) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Rory. That is indeed useful but it's not quite what I'm after as it doesn't show the port. Specifically, what I'm trying to do is figure out which java process is one of many WebObjects application instances. As you may know WebObjects deployment is not completely dependable and at times I can see that instance #1 running on port 2001 is in trouble. I need to kill that process but I might have a dozen java processes running and I can't tell which owns port 2001. Thanks very much for the help. Jon At 12:06 PM -0400 4/24/03, Rory Arms wrote: >Jon, > >Well, everyone was a newbie at one time. Some people are offended >when questions are asked that are (in their opinion) well >documented. But, what is usually not realized by the ones "in the >know", is that as a newbie, not knowing where to find the >documentation is the problem. > >Regarding ports. As stated by someone earlier, you must instead, >stop the process that controls the port. Once you do that, the port >will be relinquished. Ports are managed through BSD socket APIs. >Look at socket(2) if you want more details. > >As far as ps(1) usage. To show processes owned by a specific user: > >$ ps -U joe > >Where joe is the username. You should then get a list of all the >processes that the user "joe" is running. > >From the ps(1) manual page: > > -U Display the processes belonging to the specified username. > >(note, it is an uppercase "U") > >Hope that helps, > >-rory > >On Thursday, Apr 24, 2003, at 11:25 US/Eastern, Jon Nolan wrote: > >> At 12:03 AM -0400 4/24/03, Dan Shoop wrote: >>> At 1:34 PM -0700 4/23/03, Marley Graham wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 12:41 PM, Leon Towns-von Stauber wrote: >>>> >>>>> Once you've grokked UNIX, this is one of the few (IMHO) things >>>>> that seems like it should be simple, but isn't. There's no >>>>> "killport port_num" command. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I haven't been at this very long, but it is hard to imagine a >>>>Sys Admin who didn't need to kill a port. >>> >>> Ports don't live on their own, they are owned by processes, so >>>you kill the process. The concept of "killing a port" is >>>back-asswards. >> >> >> Asking a question on this list can sometimes make you feel like >>one of those dreams where you show up at school dressed in only >>your underwear. >> >> Killing [an address that owns] a port is something very useful to >>me. Thanks to Leon for the lsof suggestion. Is there a way to >>list processes/ports for a certain user? I've tried the -u option >>outlined in the man page but couldn't seem to get it to work. >> >> Any suggestions are appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Jon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacOSX-admin mailing list >> MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com >> http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin >> > >-- >Name: Rory Arms Email: rorya@TrueStep.com >Tel: +1 859-225-3833 Time Zone: GMT -5 >"Some people have too much freedom" - GW Bush From mgraham at aquaflo.com Thu Apr 24 09:37:02 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > At 12:03 AM -0400 4/24/03, Dan Shoop wrote: >> >> Ports don't live on their own, they are owned by processes, so you >> kill the process. The concept of "killing a port" is back-asswards. On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 08:25 AM, Jon Nolan wrote: > Asking a question on this list can sometimes make you feel like one of > those dreams where you show up at school dressed in only your > underwear. > Good analogy! Its not always fun when being the freshman amongst the seniors. But I'm here to learn; can't let my thin skin get in the way of that. > Killing [an address that owns] a port is something very useful to me. > Thanks to Leon for the lsof suggestion. Is there a way to list > processes/ports for a certain user? I've tried the -u option outlined > in the man page but couldn't seem to get it to work. I poked around in man lsof. As I read the documentation, you should be able to type: lsof -u (substituting your real user name) or lsof -u When I try the username version I get: lsof: can't get UID for Is that the response you get? I don't know how to find my UID, so I can't try that. Maybe some kind soul will enlighten us. Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply From schreian at bc.edu Thu Apr 24 09:50:01 2003 From: schreian at bc.edu (Tony Schreiner) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can get your UID by typing id any user's UID by typing id username the full list, by typing nidump passwd / If lsof gives you that error, you're probably not using the correct username Tony > >> Killing [an address that owns] a port is something very useful to me. >> Thanks to Leon for the lsof suggestion. Is there a way to list >> processes/ports for a certain user? I've tried the -u option >> outlined in the man page but couldn't seem to get it to work. > > I poked around in man lsof. As I read the documentation, you should be > able to type: > > lsof -u (substituting your real user name) > or lsof -u > > When I try the username version I get: > > lsof: can't get UID for > > Is that the response you get? > > I don't know how to find my UID, so I can't try that. > > Maybe some kind soul will enlighten us. > > Marley Graham > Aqua-Flo Supply > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From mgraham at aquaflo.com Thu Apr 24 09:54:00 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3BB2C325-7675-11D7-B8BF-0050E4704A37@aquaflo.com> On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 09:14 AM, Jon Nolan wrote: > Thanks Rory. That is indeed useful but it's not quite what I'm after > as it doesn't show the port. Also doesn't show UID, which would let you use lsof -u to get the ports. Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply From milov at cslab.uwlax.edu Thu Apr 24 10:00:05 2003 From: milov at cslab.uwlax.edu (Milo Velimirovic) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 11:36 AM, Marley Graham wrote: [snip] >> Killing [an address that owns] a port is something very useful to me. >> Thanks to Leon for the lsof suggestion. Is there a way to list >> processes/ports for a certain user? I've tried the -u option >> outlined in the man page but couldn't seem to get it to work. > > I poked around in man lsof. As I read the documentation, you should be > able to type: > > lsof -u (substituting your real user name) > or lsof -u > > When I try the username version I get: > > lsof: can't get UID for > > Is that the response you get? It works for me... I get a VERY long list of all the files my processes have open. > > I don't know how to find my UID, so I can't try that. niutil -read . /users/ | fgrep uid for a local account, change the "." to a NetInfo domain name or .. or / as needed. e.g. niutil -read / /users/ | fgrep uid for an account in the root domain. > > Maybe some kind soul will enlighten us. back to the original question... lsof -u | fgrep TCP will produce a list of open ports for > > Marley Graham > Aqua-Flo Supply > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > Milo Velimirovic Unix Computer Network Administrator University of Wisconsin - La Crosse La Crosse, Wisconsin 54601 USA 43 48 05 N 91 14 22 W There are 10 different types of people in the world. Those who can read binary and those who can't. From mgraham at aquaflo.com Thu Apr 24 10:16:34 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <30579D1E-7678-11D7-B8BF-0050E4704A37@aquaflo.com> On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 09:49 AM, Tony Schreiner wrote: > You can get your UID by typing > id Great! > any user's UID by typing > id username Yup; that works too. > the full list, by typing > > nidump passwd / Probably, but I get a "usage" display. I'll have to study that if I want to use it. > If lsof gives you that error, you're probably not using the correct > username > Nope. I used the same name that worked with id username. Is this a bug? Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply From agustin at macaldia.com Thu Apr 24 10:20:05 2003 From: agustin at macaldia.com (Agustin Bialet) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 01:36 PM, Marley Graham wrote: > I don't know how to find my UID, so I can't try that. > you could use the command 'id' to find that out. [agus:~] abialet% id uid=502(abialet) gid=20(staff) groups=20(staff), 80(admin) -- Agustin Bialet An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing. From jwelch at aer.com Thu Apr 24 10:33:01 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Printing to PDF at the command line Message-ID: I've been through the docs for CUPs, and the man pages for lp(r), no love. Any ideas on printing to PDF below the GUI? john -- AppleScript is what Macs are for. The rest is just meat tricks. john c welch From mgraham at aquaflo.com Thu Apr 24 10:37:03 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 09:56 AM, Milo Velimirovic wrote: > lsof -u | fgrep TCP > > will produce a list of open ports for Here is what I get: First, to make sure the username is correct: [Marleys-G4:~] marleygraham% id uid=501(marleygraham) gid=20(staff) groups=20(staff), 80(admin) So I paste your command line and substitute my username and get: [Marleys-G4:~] marleygraham% lsof -u marleygraham | fgrep TCP lsof: -u login name > 8 characters: marleygraham lsof 4.60 latest revision: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/ latest FAQ: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/FAQ latest man page: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_man usage: [-?abChlnNoOPRstUvV] [-c c] [+|-d s] [+D D] [+|-f[cfgGn]] [-F [f]] [-g [s]] [-i [i]] [-k k] [+|-L [l]] [-m m] [+|-M] [-o [o]] [-p s] [+|-r [t]] [-S [t]] [-T [t]] [-u s] [+|-w] [--] [names] Use the ``-h'' option to get more help information. which is identical to the response I get from lsof -u marleygraham. (If I type lsof -u 501 | grep TCP, I do indeed get a list of processes and associated ports associated with my username). Any idea why it doesn't work for me? I'm running 10.2.5 on a G4 machine. Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply From schreian at bc.edu Thu Apr 24 11:05:52 2003 From: schreian at bc.edu (Tony Schreiner) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <67E8B024-767E-11D7-A180-000A95686418@bc.edu> Is it possible that there is some legacy 8 character username limit. Just a guess. lsof -u myname works for me on 10.2.5 Tony On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 01:34 PM, Marley Graham wrote: > > On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 09:56 AM, Milo Velimirovic wrote: > >> lsof -u | fgrep TCP >> >> will produce a list of open ports for > > Here is what I get: > > First, to make sure the username is correct: > > [Marleys-G4:~] marleygraham% id > uid=501(marleygraham) gid=20(staff) groups=20(staff), 80(admin) > > So I paste your command line and substitute my username and get: > > [Marleys-G4:~] marleygraham% lsof -u marleygraham | fgrep TCP > lsof: -u login name > 8 characters: marleygraham > lsof 4.60 > latest revision: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/ > latest FAQ: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/FAQ > latest man page: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_man > usage: [-?abChlnNoOPRstUvV] [-c c] [+|-d s] [+D D] [+|-f[cfgGn]] > [-F [f]] [-g [s]] [-i [i]] [-k k] [+|-L [l]] [-m m] [+|-M] [-o [o]] > [-p s] > [+|-r [t]] [-S [t]] [-T [t]] [-u s] [+|-w] [--] [names] > Use the ``-h'' option to get more help information. > > which is identical to the response I get from lsof -u marleygraham. > (If I type lsof -u 501 | grep TCP, I do indeed get a list of processes > and associated ports associated with my username). > > Any idea why it doesn't work for me? I'm running 10.2.5 on a G4 > machine. > > Marley Graham > Aqua-Flo Supply > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu Thu Apr 24 11:18:01 2003 From: ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu (Cunningham, Chad) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Printing to PDF at the command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What kind of file is it? The PDF capability in OSX is mainly due to the fact that the display is PDF, so saving a file to PDF is basically just a screen dump. When you're at the command line, this doesn't apply. CUPS has no native PDF generation capability. I think about the only way you could really do this would be to print it to a postscript file with cups, then convert that to PDF with ps2pdf. This would involve creating a new cups printer that prints to a specific file, since cups doesn't provide a print to file option. But of course, this would only work for files that cups natively understands. That would limit you to pretty much text, postscript, and various image formats. (more on this at http://www.pcunix.com/MacOSX/macosxcupstofile.html) If you want to be able to convert anything to PDF from the command line, I'd say that's a lost cause. It could theoretically be done, but it would involve setting up a routine for every specific type of file (for example, something that can decode word like wvWare, then output that to a DVI which could be converted to postscript which could be converted to PDF). If you just want to be able to do it with a certain type of file, it might be much easier... On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, John C. Welch wrote: > I've been through the docs for CUPs, and the man pages for lp(r), no love. > > Any ideas on printing to PDF below the GUI? > > john > > -- Chad Cunningham ccunning@math.ohio-state.edu "Well, once again my friend, we find that science is a two-headed beast. One head is nice, it gives us aspirin and other modern conveniences,...but the other head of science is bad! Oh beware the other head of science, Arthur, it bites!" From mgraham at aquaflo.com Thu Apr 24 11:24:01 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: <67E8B024-767E-11D7-A180-000A95686418@bc.edu> Message-ID: On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 10:58 AM, Tony Schreiner wrote: > Is it possible that there is some legacy 8 character username limit. > Just a guess. That makes sense; the lsof -u output shows marleygr as the user. But neither lsof -u marleygraham nor lsof -u marleygr gives any kind of listing. (I just get the message explaining usage). Thanks for your suggestions; it sounds like a quirk (bug?) in the system. Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply From blue at ev01.net Thu Apr 24 11:27:02 2003 From: blue at ev01.net (Jeff D) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Sendmail errors on boot-up In-Reply-To: <03257ABA-6EB0-11D7-8D06-003065D644E8@sprynet.com> References: <03257ABA-6EB0-11D7-8D06-003065D644E8@sprynet.com> Message-ID: <3EA82C4E.2010609@ev01.net> Scott Saunders wrote: > > On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 01:55 PM, Adam Porter wrote: > > [snip] > >> Apr 14 11:40:04 localhost SystemStarter: Waiting for Sendmail mail >> server >> Apr 14 11:40:28 localhost last message repeated 8 times >> Apr 14 11:40:30 localhost sendmail[368]: My unqualified host name >> (localhost) unknown; sleeping for retry > > > Sendmail can't find your computer's hostname. It tries to do this with > a reverse lookup of your IP address (using a PTR record in your DNS > setup). It tries twice, pausing in between. When it ultimately fails > or finds phoenix.local, sendmail will start up with that weird name or > "localhost". This can cause many problems including having much of > your mail rejected by other servers. > > Having a reverse (PTR) record in your DNS will take care of that > startup pause and many subsequent problems. > > hth, > Scott Saunders Hi there, In some cases having a reverse dns record is near impossible. In these situations you can edit your /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file and set the host name there. Look for a line that says #Dj$w.Foo.COM, change that to Djhost.domain.com and that should also solve the problem as well, although not as neatly as reverse dns. Jeff From RyanSKing at mac.com Thu Apr 24 13:30:03 2003 From: RyanSKing at mac.com (Ryan King) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Printing to PDF at the command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7CFB1962-7693-11D7-B037-000393D621CC@mac.com> If you know perl, you could right a script using one of the APIs from CPAN: http://search.cpan.org/search?query=pdf&mode=all PHP also has some PDF creation ability and can be run from the command line. Ryan On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 12:29 PM, John C. Welch wrote: > I've been through the docs for CUPs, and the man pages for lp(r), no > love. > > Any ideas on printing to PDF below the GUI? > > john > > -- > AppleScript is what Macs are for. > The rest is just meat tricks. > > john c welch > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > ------------------------------- There are only the pursued, the pursuing, the busy and the tired. - The Great Gatsby From mbartosh at mac.com Thu Apr 24 13:55:04 2003 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: <164542CE-766C-11D7-9BE9-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> References: <164542CE-766C-11D7-9BE9-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> Message-ID: At 11:47 AM -0400 4/24/03, Rory Arms wrote: >Generally, I don't use AFP, because of its proprietary nature. How on earth is AFP proprietary. It's a completely open specification, and at least marginally secure as opposed to nfs. Not to mention its performance benefits, which, on Mac OS X, are substantial. -- http://www.4am-media.com Mac OS X Consulting and Training Michael Bartosh mbartosh@4am-media.com 303.517.0272 Denver, CO "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." - -- Nietzsche Think Different. From jwelch at aer.com Thu Apr 24 19:54:01 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 04/24/2003 12:21, "Michael Bartosh" wrote: >> Generally, I don't use AFP, because of its proprietary nature. > > How on earth is AFP proprietary. > > It's a completely open specification, and at least marginally secure > as opposed to nfs. Not to mention its performance benefits, which, on > Mac OS X, are substantial. Oh it's the same dumb argument that you hear all the time. Of course, NFS started out just as corporate as AFP, but since it started on Unix, it must be better. It's insecure, and brings down more servers than AFP on a bad day, but it's politically correct. They really get pissed when you point out how efficient AFP/IP really is. john -- The average cost of rehabilitating a seal after the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska was $80,000. At a special ceremony, two of the most expensively saved animals were released back into the wild amid cheers and applause from onlookers. A minute later, in full view, they were both eaten by a killer whale. From wagner at math.uh.edu Thu Apr 24 20:29:01 2003 From: wagner at math.uh.edu (David H. Wagner) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Are there server or client implementations of AFP/IP for other OS's? The last time I looked, the only one for linux was netatalk, which used appletalk. I guess there is Windows Services for Macintosh--what else? David Wagner From aaronw at wsu.edu Thu Apr 24 20:53:01 2003 From: aaronw at wsu.edu (Aaron Whiteman) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <62F2D0DA-76D1-11D7-99E5-000A956A3850@wsu.edu> On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 08:27 PM, David H. Wagner wrote: > Are there server or client implementations of AFP/IP for other OS's? > The last time I looked, the only one for linux was netatalk, which > used appletalk. I guess there is Windows Services for Macintosh--what > else? Netatalk has done AFP over TCP since Adrian Sun started patching it (1.4.1 or thereabouts). The current beta is even AFP 3.x, so that is nice. Windows Services for Mac implements AFP 2, avoid it. From garrison at zeta.org.au Thu Apr 24 22:28:03 2003 From: garrison at zeta.org.au (Charlie Garrison) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Printing to PDF at the command line In-Reply-To: <7CFB1962-7693-11D7-B037-000393D621CC@mac.com> Message-ID: Good afternoon, On 24/4/03 at 3:29 PM, Ryan King wrote: >> Any ideas on printing to PDF below the GUI? What about ghostscript? It can output/convert to PDF. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison garrison@zeta.org.au PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia From rorya at TrueStep.com Thu Apr 24 23:07:07 2003 From: rorya at TrueStep.com (Rory Arms) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <13405288-76E4-11D7-9BE9-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> Michael, True, proprietary is probably to strong a word. However, there is no other implementation that I know of that matches OSX's AFP implementation. Since OSX, AFP had to be modified to handle its new features. NFS is much more interoperable, since it is well supported in most other OSs. As I said, the only situation where NFS isn't a good idea, in my opinion, is when a dual-fork network FS is required. Do you know if Apple has been kind enough to open the AFP specifications, as implemented in OSX, not AppleShare? I have a mixed network, where AFP would not work well. I suppose on an OSX only, or Classic/OSX network, AFP might make more sense. Also, I find NFS's performance to be very good, especially over UDP. -rory On Thursday, Apr 24, 2003, at 12:21 US/Eastern, Michael Bartosh wrote: > At 11:47 AM -0400 4/24/03, Rory Arms wrote: >> Generally, I don't use AFP, because of its proprietary nature. > > How on earth is AFP proprietary. > > It's a completely open specification, and at least marginally secure > as opposed to nfs. Not to mention its performance benefits, which, on > Mac OS X, are substantial. > > -- > > http://www.4am-media.com > Mac OS X Consulting and Training > Michael Bartosh > mbartosh@4am-media.com > 303.517.0272 > Denver, CO > > > "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher > regard those who think alike than those who think differently." > > - -- Nietzsche > Think Different. > -- Name: Rory Arms Email: rorya@TrueStep.com Tel: +1 859-225-3833 Time Zone: GMT -5 There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." From tallama at mac.com Thu Apr 24 23:17:01 2003 From: tallama at mac.com (The Amazing Llama) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <779DA668-76E5-11D7-8B10-0050E4A0241F@mac.com> PCMacLAN from Miramar System regularly wins awards for being the best Windows implementation. It's a good product, which I can say even if I did use to work for the company. On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 08:27 PM, David H. Wagner wrote: > Are there server or client implementations of AFP/IP for other OS's? > The last time I looked, the only one for linux was netatalk, which > used appletalk. I guess there is Windows Services for Macintosh--what > else? > > David Wagner > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > Seth A. Roby The Amazing Llama < mail or AIM me at tallama at mac dot com> "Life is like an exploded clown. It's really funny until you figure out what just happened." From tallama at mac.com Thu Apr 24 23:18:01 2003 From: tallama at mac.com (The Amazing Llama) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: <13405288-76E4-11D7-9BE9-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> Message-ID: On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 11:06 PM, Rory Arms wrote: > Do you know if Apple has been kind enough to open the AFP > specifications, as implemented in OSX, not AppleShare? Yes, that's what AFP 3.0 is. All the more recent documentation is on the system OSX uses. Seth A. Roby The Amazing Llama < mail or AIM me at tallama at mac dot com> "Life is like an exploded clown. It's really funny until you figure out what just happened." From mbartosh at mac.com Fri Apr 25 00:12:01 2003 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: <13405288-76E4-11D7-9BE9-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> References: <13405288-76E4-11D7-9BE9-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> Message-ID: At 2:06 AM -0400 4/25/03, Rory Arms wrote: >True, proprietary is probably to strong a word. However, there is no >other implementation that I know of that matches OSX's AFP >implementation. Since OSX, AFP had to be modified to handle its new >features. NFS is much more interoperable, since it is well supported >in most other OSs. As I said, the only situation where NFS isn't a >good idea, in my opinion, is when a dual-fork network FS is required. > >Do you know if Apple has been kind enough to open the AFP >specifications, as implemented in OSX, not AppleShare? Yes. It's fairly well documented from a programmatic standpoint in the developer docs. Additionally, all of the engineers involved are very open to working with third parties. Several answer questions on this and other lists with some frequency. >I have a mixed network, where AFP would not work well. I suppose on >an OSX only, or Classic/OSX network, AFP might make more sense. >Also, I find NFS's performance to Performance varies by platform- but both client and server side AFP outperforms nfs where Mac OS X is involved. I have a feeling that due to its use in netbooting, this might change (unless Apple sees fit to boot over another protocol one of these days). The biggest issue though is security. IP spoofing is just too easy. Even on unix systems I try to use smb home dirs when feasible. True it's NTLMv1, but even that is better than NFS. Kerberized NFS is ok, but that never took off.. NFSv4 is a similar story. AFS is really nice but not deployed widely enough to rely on consistently... NFS is a lot like X win. Everyone knows its ugly but no one fixes it, and most people deploy it without really challenging the notion. I even use it (read-only, squash root) to deploy public keys. Of course, that's public data, so ymmv. -- http://www.4am-media.com Mac OS X Consulting and Training Michael Bartosh mbartosh@4am-media.com 303.517.0272 Denver, CO "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." - -- Nietzsche Think Different. From xsa at scmbb.ulb.ac.be Fri Apr 25 00:46:04 2003 From: xsa at scmbb.ulb.ac.be (Xavier Santolaria) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: OpenLDAP shared AddressBook Message-ID: <20030425074359.GA9780@puffy.ulb.ac.be> Hi folks; I've managed to get an OpenLDAP shared addressbook working, or at least it seems so, because I can't get the Apple AddressBook to retreive the data out of it. If I `ldapsearch` at the command-line I can retreive the data, but when I configure the AddressBook for that LDAP server nothing happens. Any clues? If needed I could attach some of my config files. TIA - xavier. PS: I'm using the ldbm database format. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/macosx-admin/attachments/20030425/d342ff0a/attachment.bin From root at nimug.org Fri Apr 25 02:08:03 2003 From: root at nimug.org (Matt Johnston) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <63C31BF5-76FD-11D7-B647-000393DB4746@nimug.org> On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 04:27 am, David H. Wagner wrote: > Are there server or client implementations of AFP/IP for other OS's? > The last time I looked, the only one for linux was netatalk, which > used appletalk. I guess there is Windows Services for Macintosh--what > else? PCMacLAN, CopsTalk, ExtremeZ-IP...there's more but I can't be bothered. From vilms at mac.com Fri Apr 25 03:29:01 2003 From: vilms at mac.com (Paul Williams) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: <63C31BF5-76FD-11D7-B647-000393DB4746@nimug.org> Message-ID: MacServerIP is another one... Take a look at: http://www.macwindows.com/macsrvip.html For more details on the Windows NT/2000 alternatives to SfM. Paul From editor at umich.edu Fri Apr 25 07:23:01 2003 From: editor at umich.edu (Patrick M McNeal) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: OpenLDAP shared AddressBook In-Reply-To: <20030425074359.GA9780@puffy.ulb.ac.be> Message-ID: <698FCDE4-7729-11D7-9AEE-000393104238@umich.edu> > I've managed to get an OpenLDAP shared addressbook working, or at least > it seems so, because I can't get the Apple AddressBook to retreive the > data > out of it. If I `ldapsearch` at the command-line I can retreive the > data, > but when I configure the AddressBook for that LDAP server nothing > happens. Apple's Address book is broken in regards to LDAP. Address book ( and Mail.app ) uses hard coded LDAP search filters that are not compatible with all LDAP configurations. The search filters should be customizable for each LDAP environment. I filed a bug report about this with Apple last year, but no solution has been provided. Once again, go Apple. From scrotch at sprynet.com Fri Apr 25 08:03:00 2003 From: scrotch at sprynet.com (Scott Saunders) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Are Apache Server Aliases safe with OS X Server? Message-ID: We run a few websites for a few domains from our xserve running OS X 10.2.4 (soon .5). When I set them up a while back (using 10.1.5?) the advice I got was to set up the sites with the Server Admin tools as domain.com, otherdomain.com, etc. and then to make duplicate entries for www.domain.com and www.otherdomain.com, etc. This was to make sure that requests for either domain.com or www.domain.com got served from the right place, ie: the same directory. So I did that, and obviously it's a pain. When I make any change to one, I've got to do it to the other and make sure everything is exactly the same. Duplicating work is silly. So the right way seems to be to add a "ServerAlias www.domain.com" line to the Virtual Host area of httpd_macosxserver.conf. My question (finally :) is: will adding this line to httpd_macosxserver.conf make trouble for the admin tools? I'd like to still be able to use the admin tools to create realms and administer WebDAV stuff. Will changes to the file get over-written when I use the admin tools? Will the admin tools refuse to work at all? Before I go screwing stuff up, does anyone know if everything will play nicely with this change? Many thanks in advance, Scott Saunders From jwelch at aer.com Fri Apr 25 08:35:01 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Printing to PDF at the command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 04/25/2003 01:22, "Charlie Garrison" wrote: >>> Any ideas on printing to PDF below the GUI? > > What about ghostscript? It can output/convert to PDF. Can't rely on that as a default install. john -- "Sua sponte" (Of their own accord) US Army Rangers From jwelch at aer.com Fri Apr 25 08:36:02 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: <13405288-76E4-11D7-9BE9-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> Message-ID: On 04/25/2003 02:06, "Rory Arms" wrote: > True, proprietary is probably to strong a word. However, there is no > other implementation that I know of that matches OSX's AFP > implementation. Since OSX, AFP had to be modified to handle its new > features. NFS is much more interoperable, since it is well supported in > most other OSs. As I said, the only situation where NFS isn't a good > idea, in my opinion, is when a dual-fork network FS is required. And as secure as wet toilet paper. It's only supported by default in Unix - based OS's. If you want interoperable and secure, the AFS is a good option. > > Do you know if Apple has been kind enough to open the AFP > specifications, as implemented in OSX, not AppleShare? You mean AFP 3.1? Yep. > > I have a mixed network, where AFP would not work well. I suppose on an > OSX only, or Classic/OSX network, AFP might make more sense. Also, I > find NFS's performance to be very good, especially over UDP. Hope you have a good firewall. john -- "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto From jonas at zeus.ugent.be Fri Apr 25 10:37:02 2003 From: jonas at zeus.ugent.be (Jonas Maebe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: OpenLDAP shared AddressBook In-Reply-To: <698FCDE4-7729-11D7-9AEE-000393104238@umich.edu> Message-ID: On vrijdag, apr 25, 2003, at 16:22 Europe/Brussels, Patrick M McNeal wrote: > Apple's Address book is broken in regards to LDAP. Address book ( and > Mail.app ) uses hard coded LDAP search filters that are not compatible > with all LDAP configurations. The search filters should be > customizable for each LDAP environment. You can customize Address Book's LDAP search base and type in its preferences, or am I missing something? Jonas From willscheidegger at mac.com Fri Apr 25 11:14:01 2003 From: willscheidegger at mac.com (Will Scheidegger) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: Are Apache Server Aliases safe with OS X Server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <341441B4-7749-11D7-98F2-00039344BA8C@mac.com> Adding a ServerAlias directive into the httpd_macosxserver.com file is no problem. In fact there's quite a lot of things you can do before Server Settings will start to choke... and that's a good thing, because Server Settings itself is pretty limited. We're even using Server Settings in combination with webmin and on top of that we still have to add stuff manually to the config file. :-( Things to consider: - Don't touch the commented lines (like # etc.). Server Setting depends on this info - Don't touch anything that specifically gets set by Server Settings, otherwise Server Settings will usually overwrite your changes the first time you'll use it on the virtual host. - If you want a log format other that what Apple thinks is right for all of us ;-) 1. Turn logging _off_ in Server Settings (this will comment out the log lines), then add your own log lines _after_ the commented log directives. - In general: Try the stuff first on a test site and back up the conf file frequently. Hope this helps. - Will On Freitag, April 25, 2003, at 05:01 Uhr, Scott Saunders wrote: > We run a few websites for a few domains from our xserve running OS X > 10.2.4 (soon .5). When I set them up a while back (using 10.1.5?) the > advice I got was to set up the sites with the Server Admin tools as > domain.com, otherdomain.com, etc. and then to make duplicate entries > for www.domain.com and www.otherdomain.com, etc. > > This was to make sure that requests for either domain.com or > www.domain.com got served from the right place, ie: the same > directory. So I did that, and obviously it's a pain. When I make any > change to one, I've got to do it to the other and make sure everything > is exactly the same. Duplicating work is silly. > > So the right way seems to be to add a "ServerAlias www.domain.com" > line to the Virtual Host area of httpd_macosxserver.conf. > > My question (finally :) is: will adding this line to > httpd_macosxserver.conf make trouble for the admin tools? I'd like to > still be able to use the admin tools to create realms and administer > WebDAV stuff. Will changes to the file get over-written when I use the > admin tools? Will the admin tools refuse to work at all? Before I go > screwing stuff up, does anyone know if everything will play nicely > with this change? > > Many thanks in advance, > Scott Saunders > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From dan at tangledhelix.com Fri Apr 25 11:28:01 2003 From: dan at tangledhelix.com (Dan Lowe) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: OpenLDAP shared AddressBook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <868D2DCC-774B-11D7-BB3D-00039383EA48@tangledhelix.com> On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 01:33 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: > You can customize Address Book's LDAP search base and type in its > preferences, or am I missing something? The base, yes. The type (subtree, etc), yes. The filter, no. That's hardcoded. -dan From rorya at TrueStep.com Fri Apr 25 11:35:01 2003 From: rorya at TrueStep.com (Rory Arms) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:41 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <758EEDB2-774C-11D7-B0D0-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> On Friday, Apr 25, 2003, at 11:35 US/Eastern, John C. Welch wrote: > On 04/25/2003 02:06, "Rory Arms" wrote: > >> True, proprietary is probably to strong a word. However, there is no >> other implementation that I know of that matches OSX's AFP >> implementation. Since OSX, AFP had to be modified to handle its new >> features. NFS is much more interoperable, since it is well supported >> in >> most other OSs. As I said, the only situation where NFS isn't a good >> idea, in my opinion, is when a dual-fork network FS is required. > > And as secure as wet toilet paper. It's only supported by default in > Unix - > based OS's. If you want interoperable and secure, the AFS is a good > option. > Yes, and unix-based OSs are primarily what my network is composed of, so it suits me best. >> >> Do you know if Apple has been kind enough to open the AFP >> specifications, as implemented in OSX, not AppleShare? > > You mean AFP 3.1? Yep. > >> >> I have a mixed network, where AFP would not work well. I suppose on an >> OSX only, or Classic/OSX network, AFP might make more sense. Also, I >> find NFS's performance to be very good, especially over UDP. > > Hope you have a good firewall. Exactly, on a LAN I see no problem using it. NFS wasn't designed for the public Internet anyhow. It's been around for ages and supported most all unix-based OSs, as you mentioned. One can also add NFS services to NT as well. With unix based OSs it is usually given priority, since it's considered part of the base system. NFSv4 looks exiting, as it should support ACLs, among other things. It's not a solution for everyone I guess, but to each his/her own. I think though, in certain networks, it's a good choice as far as network file systems go. -rory > > john > > -- > "The truth shall set you free." > U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto > > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > -- Name: Rory Arms Email: rorya@TrueStep.com Tel: +1 859-225-3833 Time Zone: GMT -5 "Don't be a rebel, or a conformist they're the same thing, anyway. Find your own path, and stay on it." -Paul Vixie From ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu Fri Apr 25 14:49:01 2003 From: ccunning at math.ohio-state.edu (Chad Cunningham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Printing to PDF at the command line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <92492DBA-7767-11D7-9B67-00039345D402@math.ohio-state.edu> On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 11:34 AM, John C. Welch wrote: >> >> What about ghostscript? It can output/convert to PDF. > > Can't rely on that as a default install. Nor can it handle word, excel, RTF or other popular documents. From rrouleau at scad.edu Fri Apr 25 16:34:04 2003 From: rrouleau at scad.edu (Rich Rouleau) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Netbooting across subnets Message-ID: Need a little help here. We are running OSX.2.5 Server and are having major troubles with our Macs not finding the NetBoot images across subnets. This sever is not our primary DHCP server. It is there for passing along NetBoot/NetInstall images. The documentation for this server says that NetBooting across subnets is possible even if it is not the primary DHCP server yet I cannot make this happen. Please help. Any links or insight would be immensely appreciated. Thanks in advance. -Rich? From waltd at wdstudio.com Fri Apr 25 19:14:01 2003 From: waltd at wdstudio.com (Walter Lee Davis) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: [OT] Compatible Systems RISC Router Message-ID: Does anyone here have any experience with this beast? I was given one, including the manuals and a GUI app for configuring it (I think from Mac OS 8). It is an Ethernet to Ethernet router, and there are a million config options in the manual. Where would any of you recommend that I go for advice and expertise to incorporate it into a small network of Macs inside a firewall. If I can figure out the part where it sets the AppleTalk zones up, I could decommission an ancient 9500 running Rhapsody that is serving that task. Thanks, Walter From ssen at opendarwin.org Fri Apr 25 22:27:03 2003 From: ssen at opendarwin.org (Shantonu Sen) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Netbooting across subnets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looking in the 'bootp' project in from Mac OS X 10.2.5, it looks like there's an undocumented -r flag to relay requests. Perhaps you can site a machine on the subnet to relay to your remote netboot server? Fundamentally, BSDP (which is what Mac OS X NetBoot uses to discover servers) is only local to the subnet, so some forwarding, either in software, or in hardware (in your routers, for example) needs to be done. Shantonu On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 7:31PM, Rich Rouleau wrote: > Need a little help here. > > We are running OSX.2.5 Server and are having major troubles with > our > Macs not finding the NetBoot images across subnets. This sever is not > our > primary DHCP server. It is there for passing along NetBoot/NetInstall > images. The documentation for this server says that NetBooting across > subnets is possible even if it is not the primary DHCP server yet I > cannot > make this happen. Please help. Any links or insight would be immensely > appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > -Rich? > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From bcox at virtualschool.edu Sat Apr 26 06:10:01 2003 From: bcox at virtualschool.edu (Brad Cox) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Natd/ipfw/Brickhouse has me stumped. Need help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I need some help here cause this really has me stumped. Server is MacOSX 10.2.5 on a beige G3 with two ethernet ports, recently upgraded with new disk and 256mb RAM card (500mb total) (ran fine for weeks). The client of concern here is a Dell linux box recently upgraded from 7.0 to 8.0 Redhat linux, plus several other macs. I'm using Brickhouse to share its cable connection with the clients, largely because it will restart sharing automatically on startup. This has been working flawlessly for months. Suddenly nothing I've tried makes it work. Namely, all clients (192.168.1.3) ping each other and the server (192.168.1.2) just fine. But the server pings one of the macs (OSX9.X) fine, but not the MacOSX laptop, and not the Linux client, giving this response in each case: [bcox@pcp02564011pcs:~]$ ping 192.168.1.3 PING 192.168.1.3 (192.168.1.3): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Host is down ping: wrote 192.168.1.3 64 chars, ret=-1 Server is set up properly near as I can tell from this and other indications: [bcox@pcp02564011pcs:~]$ ifconfig lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280 en0: flags=8863 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::205:2ff:fe2d:9f0a%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 68.48.139.221 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 68.48.139.255 ether 00:05:02:2d:9f:0a media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP ) status: active supported media: none autoselect 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP < full-duplex> 100baseTX 100baseTX en1: flags=8863 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::2c0:95ff:fef9:a144%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:c0:95:f9:a1:44 media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX 100base TX autoselect autoselect 10baseT/UTP As this was occurring I noticed some unexplained grumbling in the system log about prebinding problems and ipfw that made me suspect disk corruption. So last night I repaired the disk (it did repair some problems), reinstalled the OS from the CD, and reinstalled all the upgrade packs. But the problem remains just as before. Possibly related; don't really know. Retrospect has been giving "lost connection" errors to the DAT tape ever since I installed the new disk and RAM (about the same time). The disk came with a special terminated coax ribbon cable that MacConnection said was needed to terminate the bus so I doubt scsi termination or LUN conflicts are the problem. The original disks and DAT drive were factory installed by apple, so I doubt LUN numbers are the problem. Any ideas? I'm fresh out. -- Brad J. Cox, Ph.D. bcox@virtualschool.edu, http://virtualschool.edu http://virtualschool.edu/mybank: Digital Rights Management System http://virtualschool.edu/jwaa: Java Web Application Architecture http://virtualschool.edu/java+: Java Preprocessor http://virtualschool.edu/mideast: Support Israel and Palestine From magill at mcgillsociety.org Sat Apr 26 08:52:01 2003 From: magill at mcgillsociety.org (William H. Magill) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 02:23 PM, Marley Graham wrote: > On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 10:58 AM, Tony Schreiner wrote: > >> Is it possible that there is some legacy 8 character username limit. >> Just a guess. > > That makes sense; the lsof -u output shows marleygr as the user. > But neither > > lsof -u marleygraham > nor lsof -u marleygr Sadly, 8 character usernames are not legacy, they are "The Unix Way." There is a very bad philosophical problem with Unix.... the "username" is limited to 8 characters, some would say for historical reasons. The reason is that the 8 character username is deeply imbedded into Unix tradition. Many commands which have never been modified since the 1970s would need to be re-written to deal with usernames longer than 8 characters - commands like ls, and ps are two very typical ones. Other comments: 1- Nothing in Unix (aka OS X) is maintained by "name" -- either the username (which Apple calls the Short Name) or the "Long Name W. Embedded periods and spaces". Everything is maintained by "UID" which is a numeric value, which depending upon the architecture can be 31 bits or 63 bits long. There are even some older versions of Unix which required that the UID be an Octal number! 2- All "human readable names" are mapped to UIDs by some "thing" -- ls or ps or login processing, etc. All they are are "lookups" in some directory that maps the UID to a name (and vice versa.)Directories can run the gamut from /etc/password to Netinfo to LDAP... and yes because of that, it is possible to "spoof" a userid/username, it is one of the major dangers with using NFS for anything, but that's a security discussion. 3- lsof (and many unix commands) will always return the "-h" or "-?" response (the help syntax) if they are fed invalid parameters. "lsof -u marleygr" should work if that is the real "short name." However, you should get a display that looks like the syntax display but prefixed with "lsof: ID 502 request rejected because of security mode." or, "lsof: -u login name > 8 characters: magillxxx" or "lsof: can't get UID for xxx" etc... [Note, if you are NOT marleygr, then use the form "sudo lsof -u marleygr"] 4- Unix has a very bad attitude. It believes that it doesn't need to tell you about things that you know you have done wrong. This is very much part and parcel of "the Unix Way." Consequently, commands simply "fail" or output things like the syntax display when given invalid input. Newer programs, like lsof, tend to do both... they output a useful error message AND the syntax display, but if you don't read the output carefully, you miss the fact that the error message is output before the syntax display. 5- One important thing to remember/realize about Unix and OS X. It is a MULTI-USER, system -- even when there is only one user of the box! While it is possible to create a Unix system with only one user (root), OS X requires you to create at least one additional userid, the Admin user. If you issue the command "ps -aux" from the terminal window, you will find "a bunch" of process running. Most of these are called "daemons" and provide some service to you or the kernel or to another program. There is a lot of complexity hidden under the skins of OS X. The differences between OS 9 and OS X are so incredible that it is truly a tribute to the work which Apple has done, that those differences are so "invisible." OS X is not at all different from the skins of your automobile. Many of the "services" that you take for granted, like the wheel bearings, brakes, pistons, ignition system, etc. are things that you normally never "deal with," only use. When they don't work, or if you want a tune-up, you take the car to a mechanic. Well, with Unix and OS X, YOU are the mechanic. ... unless you hire someone else to do the work for you, just like you do with your car. That someone else is called a "Unix Systems Administrator." T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # Beige G3 - Rev A motherboard - 768 Meg # Flat-panel iMac (2.1) 800MHz - Super Drive - 768 Meg # PWS433a [Alpha 21164 Rev 7.2 (EV56)- 64 Meg]- Tru64 5.1a magill@mcgillsociety.org magill@acm.org magill@mac.com From warren at meyer-pollans.net Sun Apr 27 09:06:00 2003 From: warren at meyer-pollans.net (Warren Pollans) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: SOLVED: /usr/bin/head problem Message-ID: <200304271605.h3RG5K210340@mmm706.vwh1.net> Thanks to all who offered copies of /usr/bin/head. I "found" the darwin source site and downloaded the text_utils tarball and compiled it. Everything is OK now From warren at meyer-pollans.net Sun Apr 27 09:26:01 2003 From: warren at meyer-pollans.net (Warren Pollans) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: SUCCESS: perl, mod_perl, apache install Message-ID: <200304271614.h3RGEow12078@mmm706.vwh1.net> Hello, I thought that I'd report a success for a change. I installed perl5.8.0, mod_perl and apache on my ibook (10.2.5) yesterday. Thanks to everyone who had posted their install stories. The install went into /opt. The only problem I encountered was related to the fact that apache uses "head" in the process of make'ing so the make failed until I could replace my missing /usr/bin/head Summary follows. Thanks again, Warren +++++++++++++++[ install summary ]+++++++++++++++ Before starting this upgrade, I mv'd /sw/lib/perl to /sw/lib/perl.bak to attempt to avoid all of the advertised problems with fink's Storable. After the install, I mv'd /Library/Perl to /Library/Perl.bak and /System/Library/Perl to /System/Library/Perl.bak just to make sure I wasn't picking up any 5.6.0 stuff The whole thing took several hours - seems that I needed to do everything at least twice. There were a lot of "so that's what that means" moments :-) Everything seems to be OK - at least, my scripts that worked before still work. TODO: put /sw/lib/perl back and rebuild fink's copy of Storable By the way, I have been using my local copy of CPAN to quickly install the perl modules I need - thanks to Randall Schwartz - check out one his linux magazine column#42 on his stonehenge site. It's quick to me because I live at the end of a 56k modem at home. >>> perl -->> no problems [perl-5.8.0]$ sudo ./Configure -des -Dprefix=/opt -Dccflags=-I/sw/include -Dldflags=-L/sw/lib >>> mod_perl -->> no problems [mod_perl-1.27]$ sudo perl Makefile.PL \ > NO_HTTPD=1 \ > APACHE_SRC=/opt/apache_1.3.27/src \ > USE_APACI=1 \ > PREP_HTTPD=1 \ > EVERYTHING=1 >>> apache -->> apache "make" uses the "head" cmd. I had allowed LWP to put HEAD in /usr/bin. This caused make to fail - until I got the source from the darwin site and rebuilt it. I had noticed the missing head earlier and figured it would be no problem because I seldom use it - surprise! I moved files that LWP had put into /opt/bin (when I reinstalled) into /opt/local/bin and put /opt/local/bin at the end of my path. [apache_1.3.27]$ cat ./config.status ./configure \ "--with-layout=Apache" \ "--prefix=/opt" \ "--activate-module=src/modules/perl/libperl.a" \ "--enable-module=most" \ "--enable-shared=max" \ "--disable-shared=perl" \ "--without-execstrip" \ "$@" From rickt at rickt.org Mon Apr 28 05:35:01 2003 From: rickt at rickt.org (rick tait) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: another sendmail question In-Reply-To: <620032A6-5A92-11D7-98AF-000393639B02@rlpcon.com> References: <620032A6-5A92-11D7-98AF-000393639B02@rlpcon.com> Message-ID: You have 2 options: 1. Change your DOMAIN_NAME to what it SHOULD be on the outside, make sure DNS is all set up and pretend to be a "real" mailserver. You'll be able to send, just not to receive. 2. Point your box to another mailserver that you can configure to allow relaying from your box. I have the exact same setup as you (OSX behind NAT) except my router is my Linux box. I conf'd the Linux box to relay from the OSX box' IP, and all is well. For example, in your .mc: define(`MAIL_HUB', ip.of.mail.relay.here)dnl It works like a treat! RMT. For some reason, Richard L. Peskin said on Thu, 20 Mar 2003: > If I have a local network behind NAT (a router connected to the > internet), is there a way to configure sendmail so that a workstation > (OS X) can send mail (obviously using Unix mail) to addresses on the > internet? When I tried using a [ define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', > `$w.rlpcon.loc') ] (where rlpcon.loc is the local named domain), the > mail bounces because the domain name is unknown. Clearly what I am > trying to do might be prevented because it would allow spamming from > unknown hosts. > > --dick peskin > > > > > Richard L. Peskin, RLP Consulting, Londonderry, VT > http://www.rlpcon.com > http://www.caip.rutgers.edu/~peskin From janos.lobb at yale.edu Mon Apr 28 06:39:02 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Partitioning and Mirroring on an xServe ? Message-ID: Hi, Finally - after one and half years of try - I convinced management here to depart from a Novell 4.11 server to an xServe. The order is in the pipeline. We opt for a three drives machine. bay 1 for a 60G drive just for the OS by itself. I can afford 4 hours downtime, so if something goes wrong with the OS it will be just reinstalled and re-patched. Bay 2 and 3 for mirrored 180G drives to house everything else. Mirroring as first line of defense and it will be backed up to an AIT tape drive nightly. I just heard that if we mirror, than we will not able to partition the mirrored drive. Is this correct ? I also heard that if I leave the mirrored drives a one big one, then I will not able to set usage limits on folders what I want to treat as "partitions". Is that true too ? How others in this list who have xServe with similar setup are dealing with these issues ? Thanks ahead, J?nos ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From epeyton at epicware.com Mon Apr 28 06:56:01 2003 From: epeyton at epicware.com (Eric Peyton) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Partitioning and Mirroring on an xServe ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EF480E1-7981-11D7-AA69-000393D42984@epicware.com> On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 8:39AM, J?nos L?bb wrote: > Hi, > > Finally - after one and half years of try - I convinced management > here to depart from a Novell 4.11 server to an xServe. The order is > in the pipeline. We opt for a three drives machine. bay 1 for a 60G > drive just for the OS by itself. I can afford 4 hours downtime, so if > something goes wrong with the OS it will be just reinstalled and > re-patched. Bay 2 and 3 for mirrored 180G drives to house everything > else. Mirroring as first line of defense and it will be backed up to > an AIT tape drive nightly. I just heard that if we mirror, than we > will not able to partition the mirrored drive. Is this correct ? Yes. At least not with Apples built in mirroring. > I also heard that if I leave the mirrored drives a one big one, then > I will not able to set usage limits on folders what I want to treat as > "partitions". Do you mean quotas? OS X Server supports quotas, but I'm not sure if that is what you mean. If you mean a limit on an arbitrary folder, then the answer is no, you can't set an arbitrary folder size. Eric > Is that true too ? How others in this list who have xServe with > similar setup are dealing with these issues ? > > Thanks ahead, > J?nos > ---------------------------------------------- > Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a > corpse. > (S. Lem: His Master Voice) > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From waltd at wdstudio.com Mon Apr 28 07:06:01 2003 From: waltd at wdstudio.com (Walter Lee Davis) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Partitioning and Mirroring on an xServe ? In-Reply-To: <0EF480E1-7981-11D7-AA69-000393D42984@epicware.com> Message-ID: <7C340D41-7982-11D7-885F-000393C48A5C@wdstudio.com> Wasn't there some trick involving mounting and sharing a disk image to enforce volume sizes? Walter On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 09:55 AM, Eric Peyton wrote: > [snip] >> I also heard that if I leave the mirrored drives a one big one, >> then I will not able to set usage limits on folders what I want to >> treat as "partitions". > > Do you mean quotas? OS X Server supports quotas, but I'm not sure if > that is what you mean. If you mean a limit on an arbitrary folder, > then the answer is no, you can't set an arbitrary folder size. > > Eric > [snip] From mgraham at aquaflo.com Mon Apr 28 07:40:04 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: [OT] Compatible Systems RISC Router In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2DA58F73-7987-11D7-813F-0050E4704A37@aquaflo.com> Have you checked the Cisco website? I have a Compatible Systems router that I started to set up about a year ago. I remember discovering that Cisco had bought them out. I was actually able to get info on my router from there. Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply ============================================ On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 07:13 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote: > Does anyone here have any experience with this beast? I was given one, > including the manuals and a GUI app for configuring it (I think from > Mac OS 8). It is an Ethernet to Ethernet router, and there are a > million config options in the manual. Where would any of you recommend > that I go for advice and expertise to incorporate it into a small > network of Macs inside a firewall. If I can figure out the part where > it sets the AppleTalk zones up, I could decommission an ancient 9500 > running Rhapsody that is serving that task. > > Thanks, > > Walter > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From mgraham at aquaflo.com Mon Apr 28 07:56:01 2003 From: mgraham at aquaflo.com (Marley Graham) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: How to kill a port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <80728CF0-7989-11D7-813F-0050E4704A37@aquaflo.com> On Saturday, April 26, 2003, at 08:51 AM, William H. Magill wrote: > "lsof -u marleygr" should work if that is the real "short name." ===== Apparently this is the source of the problem. When I set up my account, I must have set the "short name" to marleygraham (which, obviously violates the 8-character rule). I am the only user set up in System Preferences > Accounts; can I safely go in and edit the "short name to conform? Will that screw up sign-ons that make use of Keychain access, or cause other security issues? Marley Graham Aqua-Flo Supply From janos.lobb at yale.edu Mon Apr 28 08:54:02 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Partitioning and Mirroring on an xServe ? In-Reply-To: <0EF480E1-7981-11D7-AA69-000393D42984@epicware.com> Message-ID: On Monday, Apr 28, 2003, at 09:55 America/New_York, Eric Peyton wrote: > > On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 8:39AM, J?nos L?bb wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Finally - after one and half years of try - I convinced management >> here to depart from a Novell 4.11 server to an xServe. The order is >> in the pipeline. We opt for a three drives machine. bay 1 for a 60G >> drive just for the OS by itself. I can afford 4 hours downtime, so >> if something goes wrong with the OS it will be just reinstalled and >> re-patched. Bay 2 and 3 for mirrored 180G drives to house everything >> else. Mirroring as first line of defense and it will be backed up to >> an AIT tape drive nightly. I just heard that if we mirror, than we >> will not able to partition the mirrored drive. Is this correct ? > > Yes. At least not with Apples built in mirroring. Is there non_Apple solution for it ? If yes, how safe to use it ? > >> I also heard that if I leave the mirrored drives a one big one, >> then I will not able to set usage limits on folders what I want to >> treat as "partitions". > > Do you mean quotas? OS X Server supports quotas, but I'm not sure if > that is what you mean. No I do not want that. I will have quotas on user home directories, but that is a different animal. If I cannot have partitions for "business", "cytology",...etc, than I would like to have limits set on those folders which does not allow them just to dump 40 something GIG from their local machine to the server. I do not mind to get my hands dirty in the Terminal to make it happen. I also heard that if I do not mirror and create partitions than I can psync them to the other drive. If that is true, can I hide the other drive from the normal users, but have psync still do its job ? The ideal solution would be like LVM on AIX. There I can mirror at the logical volume level. Is there an plans to make an LVM with mirroring capabilities for OSX Server ? J?nos From Sherlock at rna.nl Mon Apr 28 09:59:02 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? Message-ID: See subject. I tried searching Apple's web site but could not find anything on the subject. Thanks, G -- "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides From epeyton at epicware.com Mon Apr 28 10:11:01 2003 From: epeyton at epicware.com (Eric Peyton) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Partitioning and Mirroring on an xServe ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13BA1EB7-799C-11D7-AA69-000393D42984@epicware.com> On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 10:54AM, J?nos L?bb wrote: > > On Monday, Apr 28, 2003, at 09:55 America/New_York, Eric Peyton wrote: > >> >> On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 8:39AM, J?nos L?bb wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Finally - after one and half years of try - I convinced management >>> here to depart from a Novell 4.11 server to an xServe. The order is >>> in the pipeline. We opt for a three drives machine. bay 1 for a >>> 60G drive just for the OS by itself. I can afford 4 hours downtime, >>> so if something goes wrong with the OS it will be just reinstalled >>> and re-patched. Bay 2 and 3 for mirrored 180G drives to house >>> everything else. Mirroring as first line of defense and it will be >>> backed up to an AIT tape drive nightly. I just heard that if we >>> mirror, than we will not able to partition the mirrored drive. Is >>> this correct ? >> >> Yes. At least not with Apples built in mirroring. > > Is there non_Apple solution for it ? If yes, how safe to use it ? I have no idea. >> >>> I also heard that if I leave the mirrored drives a one big one, >>> then I will not able to set usage limits on folders what I want to >>> treat as "partitions". >> >> Do you mean quotas? OS X Server supports quotas, but I'm not sure if >> that is what you mean. > > No I do not want that. I will have quotas on user home directories, > but that is a different animal. If I cannot have partitions for > "business", "cytology",...etc, than I would like to have limits set on > those folders which does not allow them just to dump 40 something GIG > from their local machine to the server. I do not mind to get my hands > dirty in the Terminal to make it happen. I also heard that if I do > not mirror and create partitions than I can psync them to the other > drive. If that is true, can I hide the other drive from the normal > users, but have psync still do its job ? > Yes, by using a configured fstab to hide the volumes and then mounting them by hand you can have them mounted, but hidden from the UI. Users can still get to them via the Terminal if they are mounted however. > The ideal solution would be like LVM on AIX. There I can mirror at > the logical volume level. Is there an plans to make an LVM with > mirroring capabilities for OSX Server ? > Mac OS X does not support LVM. Eric > J?nos > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From alec at worldoftomorrow.net Mon Apr 28 10:36:01 2003 From: alec at worldoftomorrow.net (Alec Bartsch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Security-less AFP In-Reply-To: <200304261903.h3QJ35L08142@slowbro.omnigroup.com> Message-ID: Here's a question tangentially related to the recent thread about AFP v. NFS... We'd like to have a number of AFP share points mounted statically at startup (for example in a StartupItem) and persist regardless of whether a user happens to be logged in on that machine. We'd like security to be handled as in NFS, i.e. where no passwords are required to access shares, but file permissions and ownership are those of the uid of the process that's running. (In other words, connecting as guest would not be desirable.) Assuming that all uids are unified site-wide via NetInfo, is this possible? I understand there's some way to disable the client-to-server uid "mapping" that takes place by default in AFP, but haven't been able to track it down. In short, we'd like the performance gains and dual-fork capability of AFP, but with the NFS-style security model. Thanks for any advice, Alec -/-------------------------------------- Alec Bartsch Texture and Lighting Lead "The World of Tomorrow" ----------------------------------------/- From charlesd at newsguy.com Tue Apr 29 05:52:01 2003 From: charlesd at newsguy.com (Charles Dyer) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 18:59 +0200 28/04/2003, Gerben Wierda wrote: >See subject. I tried searching Apple's web site but could not find >anything on the subject. That's because Apple ain't in the printer business no more. Check out HP, Canon, Xerox, etc. HP 2500 starts at US$900, which isn't expensive for a colour laser. HP's site shows two downloads, totalling about 7 MB, of stuff for it and OS X so I assume it's compat. -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Stability is irrelevant. Where _you_ want to go to today is irrelevant. We will add your currency to our own. Bend over right now. Resistance is futile. From ellem52 at mac.com Tue Apr 29 06:08:01 2003 From: ellem52 at mac.com (Lou Moran) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? Message-ID: <5144290.1051621628792.JavaMail.ellem52@mac.com> On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 08:50AM, Charles Dyer wrote: >At 18:59 +0200 28/04/2003, Gerben Wierda wrote: >>See subject. I tried searching Apple's web site but could not find >>anything on the subject. > >That's because Apple ain't in the printer business no more. > >Check out HP, Canon, Xerox, etc. > >HP 2500 starts at US$900, which isn't expensive for a colour laser. >HP's site shows two downloads, totalling about 7 MB, of stuff for it >and OS X so I assume it's compat. What's expensive? For a color laser Tektronix (Xerox) makes a really good, professional printer for about 1100USD. -- Lou Moran http://homepage.mac.com/ellem52 From charlesd at newsguy.com Tue Apr 29 07:05:01 2003 From: charlesd at newsguy.com (Charles Dyer) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: <8EB1864A-7A45-11D7-A3A7-003065D62A38@mk27.com> References: <8EB1864A-7A45-11D7-A3A7-003065D62A38@mk27.com> Message-ID: At 09:21 -0400 29/04/2003, Todd R. Warfel wrote: >If you want color laser, then the only printer to look at is Xerox - >they purchased the Tektronix printer division a few years ago. So, >now they're Xerox Phasers instead of Tektronix Phasers. They start >around $1000. > >Here's the low down: >Tektronix was known for the most color accurate printers in the >business. Xerox purchased their printer division in an effort get >into the desktop and small office market. Xerox is typically years >ahead of the industry in their technology. They've continued the >Tektronix quality with Xerox's history of innovation. I have a >Tektronix Phaser at home and we have one here in the office. You >simply can't beat them when it comes to speed, accuracy and ease of >use. You want to add ink, you simply lift the lid and drop ink into >the color and shape coded slots - yes they shape code their ink so >you can't mess it up. Total time: less than 10 seconds. >http://www.officeprinting.xerox.com/ > >We have two HP color laser printers - they're incredibly slow and >their color printing is so far off it's embarrassing. We've had them >"calibrated" every 2-3 months by the HP service techs and they're >still horrible. You want to change ink, well that will take you >around 10 minutes. HP does a great job with BW printers, but their >color printers aren't worth their weight in water. If you want _good_ colour, get a Tek, a Canon, or an inkjet. A _good_ inkjet. If you want _fast_ colour, get a HP. If you want good _and_ fast, get a high-end inkjet. Be prepared to spend serious dollars. > >Canon does a nice job with color printers - they base their >technology on Xerox technologies that are about 6-10 years old. >Still very good, but not quite up to snuff with Xerox. Color >accuracy on the Canon models are better than HP, but still don't >compare to Xerox. And changing ink and using the printer (e.g. >changing settings from the printer if necessary) is still not as >easy as the Xerox models - remember these guys invented the GUI. >Typically, both Canon and Xerox have some type of colour >correction/adjustement software built into their software drivers - >and it's much better than HP. Very little is worse than HP when it comes to professional-level colour accuracy. Their stuff is good enough for general office use: memos, charts, graphs, first looks at leaflets, stuff printed from the web, that kind of thing. If you're actually doing design work... well, I'd not use it. But he wanted cheap, and right now you can't get much cheaper than a 2500. (in several meanings of 'cheap'.) -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Stability is irrelevant. Where _you_ want to go to today is irrelevant. We will add your currency to our own. Bend over right now. Resistance is futile. From Sherlock at rna.nl Tue Apr 29 07:25:01 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5B98DDAA-7A4E-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 16:03 Europe/Amsterdam, Charles Dyer wrote: > If you want _good_ colour, get a Tek, a Canon, or an inkjet. A _good_ > inkjet. If you want _fast_ colour, get a HP. If you want good _and_ > fast, get a high-end inkjet. Be prepared to spend serious dollars. On of the reasons I am looking into laser is that I am very dissatisfied by the results of Inkjet, both in terms of colour and in terms of sharpness. I produce documents with TeX and can use fonts dedicated for the resolution at hand. I have a NeXT Laser Printer which is a Canon engine from 10 years ago that operates at 400dpi. The results of that printer are a lot better than from my recent Canon Inkjet even if I use super paper on the inkjet. The canon inkjet has been a complete waste of money. Given that colour reproduction has been a disaster so far and that B&W at 600dpi on my inkjet is worse than 400dpi on my NeXT Laser Printer I am looking for an alternative. I was hoping that a color laser would be the answer. G -- "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides From Axel.Rau at Chaos1.DE Tue Apr 29 10:43:01 2003 From: Axel.Rau at Chaos1.DE (Axel Rau) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Trouble with Journaling of mirrored RAIDset on SCSI disks Message-ID: Hi all, I enabled journaling on several mirrors (AppleRAID) on a 10.2.5 OSX (not server) box. This works well on ATA and firewire disks, but deadlocks very soon on SCSI disks. It can be reproduced easy on a G4 (2002) with a Atto UL3S and 2 spare disks (IBM 4GB U2W): 1. unmount RAID components umount /dev/disk10 umount /dev/disk8 2. create RAID diskutil createRAID mirror RD1213 HFS+ disk8 disk10 3. enable journaling diskutil enableJournal /Volumes/RD1213 4. load some data on new RAID set ditto -rsrc /System /Volumes/RD1213/System ditto /usr /Volumes/RD1213/usr (system hangs) Anybody tried this? Any suggestions? Axel Computing @ Chaos Claudius -Motivation by consistency: Cocoa Axel Rau, Frankfurt, Germany Phone:49-69-951418-0, Fax: -55 email:Axel.Rau@Chaos1.DE,Mime ok,MS-Word-documents only as HTML From marcel at metaobject.com Tue Apr 29 11:23:01 2003 From: marcel at metaobject.com (Marcel Weiher) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Seriously, a 45 page limit in OSX PDF generator? In-Reply-To: <8DE92FEB-2641-11D7-9175-003065567DB4@ocs.cz> Message-ID: <72ABB42C-7A6F-11D7-8C8D-00039366F3C0@metaobject.com> Just a short heads-up on this old thread: Ondra and I have finally put our code where our mouth was and just released PostView 1.0, a PDF/Postscript previewer. You can get it from http://www.metaobject.com/ Cheers, Marcel On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 04:21 Uhr, Ondra Cada wrote: > > On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 13:38 Europe/Prague, Marcel Weiher wrote: > >>> And when the page is visible on screen in its entirety you don't >>> even get a scroll bar for the document. >> >> Sure. You get scroll bars when there is something to scroll around >> in, the page. The document consists of pages, and you jump whole >> pages at a time. Think of a book. You page to page 124, then find >> what you're looking for on that page. You don't "scroll down to line >> 2321", which happens to be on page 124 by accident. > > And, of course, there's the whole-document slider in place where it > belongs, ie. in the thumbnail drawer. > > The Acrobat GUI is so terrible I would not ever use the thing, had > Preview be able to search :( > >> would you be willing to pay for a Quartz-based PDF Previewer that had >> a find feature, say US $20? > > No hard promises, but very probably yeah. Should it offer some other > features Preview is sadly lacking (like copying), the probability goes > very close to one ;) > -- Marcel Weiher Metaobject Software Technologies marcel@metaobject.com www.metaobject.com Metaprogramming for the Graphic Arts. HOM, IDEAs, MetaAd etc. From epeyton at epicware.com Tue Apr 29 11:45:03 2003 From: epeyton at epicware.com (Eric Peyton) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Trouble with Journaling of mirrored RAIDset on SCSI disks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <888C25F8-7A72-11D7-BABB-000393D42984@epicware.com> On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 12:42PM, Axel Rau wrote: > Hi all, > > I enabled journaling on several mirrors (AppleRAID) on a 10.2.5 OSX > (not server) box. > This works well on ATA and firewire disks, but deadlocks very soon on > SCSI disks. > > It can be reproduced easy on a G4 (2002) with a Atto UL3S and 2 spare > disks > (IBM 4GB U2W): > > 1. unmount RAID components > umount /dev/disk10 > umount /dev/disk8 > 2. create RAID > diskutil createRAID mirror RD1213 HFS+ disk8 disk10 > 3. enable journaling > diskutil enableJournal /Volumes/RD1213 > 4. load some data on new RAID set > ditto -rsrc /System /Volumes/RD1213/System > ditto /usr /Volumes/RD1213/usr (system hangs) > > Anybody tried this? > Any suggestions? > I suggest you file a bug with apple. Eric > Axel > > Computing @ Chaos Claudius -Motivation by consistency: Cocoa > Axel Rau, Frankfurt, Germany Phone:49-69-951418-0, Fax: -55 > email:Axel.Rau@Chaos1.DE,Mime ok,MS-Word-documents only as HTML > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From Sherlock at rna.nl Tue Apr 29 12:33:01 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Postfix with SASL on Mac OS X 10.2? Message-ID: <8067C326-7A79-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Sorry for the crosspost, but there are both developer and admin issues here. I would like to setup up my Postfix mail daemon in such a way that I can accept authenticated connections from the outside so that when I am with my laptop somewhere else, I can use my home server system as mail relay with encrypted password authentication. The first problem I encountered were missing header files in /usr/include (sasl.h, saslutil.h and prop.h) so that compiling Postfix 2.0.9 failed. I fixed this by adding these files from SASL 2.2.1. Positfix then compiled and linked fine (as the libraries are available in /usr/lib/sasl2). But to create entries for clients to use, I need the pwcheck or saslauthd, which I cannot find on my system. So I downloaded Cyrus SASL and tried to configure and make this. But this also failed > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -Wall -W -Wall -g -O2 > -L/usr/local/lib -module -export-dynamic -rpath /usr/lib/sasl2 -o > libsasldb.la -version-info 2:13:0 sasldb.lo sasldb_init.lo > plugin_common.lo ../sasldb/libsasldb.la > rm -fr .libs/libsasldb.la .libs/libsasldb.* .libs/libsasldb.* > ../libtool: test: too many arguments > gcc -bundle -undefined error -o .libs/libsasldb.2.0.13.so sasldb.lo > sasldb_init.lo plugin_common.lo -all_load > ../sasldb/.libs/libsasldb.al -L/usr/local/lib -lc -install_name > /usr/lib/sasl2/libsasldb.2.so > gcc: -install_name only allowed with -dynamiclib > make[2]: *** [libsasldb.la] Error 1 > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 So I am stuck. Is there a way to get SASL Postfix working on Mac OS X? G -- "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides From bronski at bronski.net Tue Apr 29 12:53:01 2003 From: bronski at bronski.net (Christoph Rummel) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Postfix with SASL on Mac OS X 10.2? In-Reply-To: <8067C326-7A79-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl>; from Sherlock@rna.nl on Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:33:49PM +0200 References: <8067C326-7A79-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Message-ID: <20030429215111.A17684@bronski.net> Gerben Wierda (2003-04-29 21:33:49 +0200): > > gcc: -install_name only allowed with -dynamiclib > > So I am stuck. Is there a way to get SASL Postfix working on Mac OS X? It is long since I compiled Postfix 2.0.2 with SASL and TLS... The GCC that comes with the DeveloperTools, as far as I know, can't build dynamic libraries so you need to go for static ones. Judging from the installdirs I think I used CPP = "gcc -E -traditional-cpp" to compile Postfix. Chris From Sherlock at rna.nl Tue Apr 29 14:27:01 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Postfix with SASL on Mac OS X 10.2? In-Reply-To: <20030429215111.A17684@bronski.net> Message-ID: <50683AB2-7A89-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 21:51 Europe/Amsterdam, Christoph Rummel wrote: > Gerben Wierda (2003-04-29 21:33:49 +0200): >>> gcc: -install_name only allowed with -dynamiclib >> >> So I am stuck. Is there a way to get SASL Postfix working on Mac OS X? > > It is long since I compiled Postfix 2.0.2 with SASL and > TLS... > > The GCC that comes with the DeveloperTools, as far as I > know, can't build dynamic libraries so you need to go > for static ones. That gets me a bit further, I configured with --enable-static and --disable-dynamic, but then SASL2 compilation fails on header conflicts: (cd .libs && rm -f libotp.la && ln -s ../libotp.la libotp.la) /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../include -I../lib -I../sasldb -Wall -W -Wall -g -O2 -c kerberos4.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../include -I../lib -I../sasldb -Wall -W -Wall -g -O2 -c kerberos4.c -o kerberos4.o In file included from kerberos4.c:53: /usr/include/openssl/des.h:83: redefinition of `struct des_ks_struct' /usr/include/openssl/des.h:124: conflicting types for `des_cbc_cksum' /usr/include/kerberosIV/des.h:117: previous declaration of `des_cbc_cksum' /usr/include/openssl/des.h:128: conflicting types for `des_cbc_encrypt' /usr/include/kerberosIV/des.h:102: previous declaration of `des_cbc_encrypt' /usr/include/openssl/des.h:139: conflicting types for `des_ecb_encrypt' etc. > Judging from the installdirs I think I used > > CPP = "gcc -E -traditional-cpp" > > to compile Postfix. Postfix compiles out of the box. As I wrote, with the missing headers added to /usr/include there is no problem. But I have no way to configure postfix as long as the sasl tools are missing. hence a compile attempt for sasl. I would really like to get this working, but it doesn't and I remain stuck. G From bronski at bronski.net Tue Apr 29 14:59:01 2003 From: bronski at bronski.net (Christoph Rummel) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Postfix with SASL on Mac OS X 10.2? In-Reply-To: <50683AB2-7A89-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Message-ID: <99C9F36E-7A8D-11D7-B53A-000393A99D5C@bronski.net> On Dienstag, April 29, 2003, at 11:27 Uhr, Gerben Wierda wrote: > Postfix compiles out of the box. As I wrote, with the missing headers > added to /usr/include there is no problem. But I have no way to > configure postfix as long as the sasl tools are missing. hence a > compile attempt for sasl. Sorry, I was talking of SASL... > I would really like to get this working, but it doesn't and I remain > stuck. I looked into that old sourcedir, here are my compile options: root@lampe:~/cyrus-sasl-1.5.28$ cat go.sh ./configure --with-pwcheck=/usr --enable-digest --enable-cram --enable-login --disable-krb4 I disabled kerberos that obviously gave me an error too. Chris From mailing.lists at creed.co.uk Tue Apr 29 15:05:01 2003 From: mailing.lists at creed.co.uk (Andy Warwick) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Newbie, setting up shared domains In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <85769061-7A8E-11D7-AC01-000A959F2F8E@creed.co.uk> On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 10:24 pm, Rajpaul Bagga wrote: > Impressively enough, it looks like you have the concepts and mechanics > down pretty well. That's great to know, thanks. > However, I would suggest that best practice is to simplify as much as > possible and reduce the number of domains to the minimum you can get > by with. > The NetInfo technology is pretty powerful and can provide great > control and flexibility. The only catch is that it can be pretty > difficult to manage beyond one network domain. I dare say managing the > structure becomes exponentially difficult with each new domain you add > to the tree (I'm not a mathematician, so please don't anyone bug me > about whether it is truly exponential...) :) The multiple domains are aimed at giving me fairly granular control over which files and folders are accessible and auto-mounted to various machines and users. > If your proposed structure really can and does provide you with what > you need, then go for it. If you're just trying to make it look > organized and "pretty" on paper, then I would consider simplifying. Right now it does feel a little like overkill, but allows me plenty of room for future expansion, especially on the extranet side. It's also a great learning experience. > -Rajpaul > > P.S. Types of questions to ask yourself: > Are there file servers/resources that both employees and freelancers > need (in the intranet domain)? Yes. Printers available to both, for instance. > Conversely, are there resources that only employees should have access > to? > Are there resources only freelancers should have access to? (if not, > perhaps they can branch directly off of intranet without a freelancers > domain) Certain internal documents (and perhaps address books, etc.) should only be available to employees. Within 6-12 months I anticipate a situation where at least some of the logins/file access will come from remote freelancers. With a domain to themselves I can hopefully control what they have access to more easily. Sounds like -- after a little more consideration as to whether it could be simplified -- I might have got my head round it okay :) I'm intrigued with the notion of "branch directly off of intranet"; how would that work, and what would be the advantages/disadvantages? I assume by doing that, I lose the ability to limit service distinctions between employees/freelancers. I'm stilling working out how the domains link in with the users & groups, and what the ramifications are for using one or the other. Thanks for the reassurance. Regards Andy Warwick Creed New Media Design From charlesd at newsguy.com Tue Apr 29 16:08:01 2003 From: charlesd at newsguy.com (Charles Dyer) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: <5B98DDAA-7A4E-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> References: <5B98DDAA-7A4E-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Message-ID: At 16:24 +0200 29/04/2003, Gerben Wierda wrote: >On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 16:03 Europe/Amsterdam, Charles Dyer wrote: > >>If you want _good_ colour, get a Tek, a Canon, or an inkjet. A >>_good_ inkjet. If you want _fast_ colour, get a HP. If you want >>good _and_ fast, get a high-end inkjet. Be prepared to spend >>serious dollars. > >On of the reasons I am looking into laser is that I am very >dissatisfied by the results of Inkjet, both in terms of colour and >in terms of sharpness. Unless you get a very good (read: expensive) inkjet, and use very good (read: very expensive) ink, on very good (read: extremely expensive) paper, liquid ink inkjets will never be as sharp as a good laser. You can get pretty good colour at a lower price, but you'll still be paying more than you'd expect. > >I produce documents with TeX and can use fonts dedicated for the >resolution at hand. I have a NeXT Laser Printer which is a Canon >engine from 10 years ago that operates at 400dpi. The results of >that printer are a lot better than from my recent Canon Inkjet even >if I use super paper on the inkjet. The canon inkjet has been a >complete waste of money. Which Canon? a S5200 or something similar? The low-to-low-mid-range inkjets are primarily there so that the vendors can sell ink. (example: the Epson C42. It's commonly available for US$40-50 or so. Black ink for it costs US$20-25, colour ink costs US$18-22. In other words, when the ink runs out, buy a new printer, it's more cost-effective.) Mid-range inkjets (such as, say, the Epson C82) give better output. High-end inkjets (anything capable of printing tabloid/super B and using six or more colours) give very good colour, but still aren't gonna be sharp unless you use special paper. It's simply a function of the way ink works. I used to use an Epson 760 for personal printing; serious documents (black/greyscale) went to one of the lasers at the office, usually a HP or a QMS, and serious colour docs went to the Tek or a high-end Epson at the office. The 760 is now retired in favour of a CX5200, which has the C82 print engine combined with a so-so scanner. It produces documents which are good enough for most purposes. Yes, if I look close enough I can see that the text isn't as sharp as it could be. Yes, some blues look more purple unless I do some tweaking before printing. But it's a whole lot better than it used to be, and the colours are better than a low-end HPs (even the blues...) and the CX5200 cost less, for a faster machine with a built-in scanner, than the 760 did when it was new. In theory the CX5200 can print at 2880x5760 dpi and uses very small ink droplets, which means that even with the way liquid ink spreads on contact with paper it gives very sharp output. In fact, there's no way in hell that I'm buying the paper that is required to make that work. A pack of 20 sheets of that stuff costs more what a ream of 500 sheets of high-quality ordinary paper costs. (US$11.70 vs US$8.10 at Epson's online store...) > >Given that colour reproduction has been a disaster so far and that >B&W at 600dpi on my inkjet is worse than 400dpi on my NeXT Laser >Printer I am looking for an alternative. I was hoping that a color >laser would be the answer. If you _must_ have good colour, you need a mid-range (US$2000-3000) Tek or Canon. Nothing short of that will deliver the goods. A low-edge-of-the-high-end inkjet, such as an Epson 5500, might do, if you're willing to use expensive paper. Same price range as the mid-range laser. If you can live with so-so colour but need sharp text, any of the HPs will be fine, and will cost way less than the above. Please note that Epson 5500s use four ink carts (black, yellow, cyan/light cyan, and magenta/light magenta) for their six colours, and each costs US$70. This is about average for the breed. Epson 7500s, the next step up, use _six_ carts, each costing about US$70. Third-party ink is cheaper (sometimes a lot cheaper) but doesn't look nearly as good, and as the whole point is to get good-looking output... Some of the Canons use _seven_ carts (black, light black, cyan, light cyan, magenta, light magenta, and yellow) or even eight carts (add in light yellow, and yes, I think that 'light black' is silly, too, and that 'light yellow' is a very strange concept) which means that you get very nice graduations and such... at a price. If you're going to do a lot of printing you might want to check out the price of consumables. Unfortunately, it's still true that you can get at most two out of fast, high-quality, and cheap, in any one printer. -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Stability is irrelevant. Where _you_ want to go to today is irrelevant. We will add your currency to our own. Bend over right now. Resistance is futile. From Sherlock at rna.nl Tue Apr 29 16:14:04 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <60FD6020-7A98-11D7-AE93-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> On Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003, at 00:57 Europe/Amsterdam, Charles Dyer wrote: > Unfortunately, it's still true that you can get at most two out of > fast, high-quality, and cheap, in any one printer. I am not interested in fast. I am a low volume user. I even want the machine off for most of the time (os that power cycle 10-25% ink usage thing scares the hell out of me) I think I am going to forget about color lasers for a while. I am going to look into a new B&W laser instead which can produce inexpensive but sharp output. G -- "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides From justin at mac.com Tue Apr 29 23:58:39 2003 From: justin at mac.com (Justin Walker) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Postfix with SASL on Mac OS X 10.2? In-Reply-To: <20030429215111.A17684@bronski.net> Message-ID: <924F56A0-7A7F-11D7-AEC9-00306544D642@mac.com> On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 12:51 US/Pacific, Christoph Rummel wrote: > Gerben Wierda (2003-04-29 21:33:49 +0200): >>> gcc: -install_name only allowed with -dynamiclib >> >> So I am stuck. Is there a way to get SASL Postfix working on Mac OS X? > > It is long since I compiled Postfix 2.0.2 with SASL and > TLS... > > The GCC that comes with the DeveloperTools, as far as I > know, can't build dynamic libraries so you need to go > for static ones. That's not true. I've built several shared libraries on Mac OS X. Of course, I didn't do the work to figure out how it's done, but gcc is not an issue. > Judging from the installdirs I think I used > > CPP = "gcc -E -traditional-cpp" > > to compile Postfix. Using 'traditional-cpp' or 'no-cpp-precomp' is generally indicated for apps with a Unix heritage. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics | Men are from Earth. | Women are from Earth. | Deal with it. *--------------------------------------*-------------------------------* From j.krisko at ecu.edu.au Wed Apr 30 01:02:29 2003 From: j.krisko at ecu.edu.au (Justin Krisko) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: /etc/hosts flat files Message-ID: I am trying to hardcode a DNS entry into my clients. I want them to always resolve entry.edu to 123.45.67.89 - and to do this internally before consulting the DNS servers. Thus, when I specify that hostname in LDAP configs it will always use that IP, rather than one returned by the external DNS. So I have altered /etc/hosts so that it looks like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost 123.45.67.89 entry.edu 255.255.255.255 broadcasthost ::1 localhost but this didn't seem to alter queries done through lookupd, it would still use the external DNS. the lookupd order seems correct, and I flushed the cache: LookupOrder: Cache FF DNS NI DS _config_name: Host Configuration Do I need to setup DirectoryAccess to use the BSD config files also? I tried doing that and adding it to the search path, above the LDAP stuff, but that made no difference either. I made no changes to /Library/Preferences/DirectoryService/DSFFplugin.plist as it seems already set up to look at /etc/hosts in its default state. Any suggestions on getting this to work? Thanks, Justin. -- Justin Krisko Apple Support Knowledge & IT Services Centre Edith Cowan University Perth, Western Australia http://www.ecu.edu.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /mailman/archive/macosx-admin/attachments/20030430/5aa28e81/attachment.html From epeyton at epicware.com Wed Apr 30 01:51:06 2003 From: epeyton at epicware.com (Eric Peyton) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Partitioning and Mirroring on an xServe ? In-Reply-To: <7C340D41-7982-11D7-885F-000393C48A5C@wdstudio.com> References: <7C340D41-7982-11D7-885F-000393C48A5C@wdstudio.com> Message-ID: <2BB21B46-7984-11D7-AA69-000393D42984@epicware.com> On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 9:05AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote: > Wasn't there some trick involving mounting and sharing a disk image to > enforce volume sizes? > Sure you can do that. However there will of course be a slight penalty and then there is all the fun with making sure the image is mounted correctly, etc. Eric > Walter > > On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 09:55 AM, Eric Peyton wrote: > >> [snip] >>> I also heard that if I leave the mirrored drives a one big one, >>> then I will not able to set usage limits on folders what I want to >>> treat as "partitions". >> >> Do you mean quotas? OS X Server supports quotas, but I'm not sure if >> that is what you mean. If you mean a limit on an arbitrary folder, >> then the answer is no, you can't set an arbitrary folder size. >> >> Eric >> [snip] > From lists at mk27.com Wed Apr 30 01:57:21 2003 From: lists at mk27.com (Todd R. Warfel) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8EB1864A-7A45-11D7-A3A7-003065D62A38@mk27.com> If you want color laser, then the only printer to look at is Xerox - they purchased the Tektronix printer division a few years ago. So, now they're Xerox Phasers instead of Tektronix Phasers. They start around $1000. Here's the low down: Tektronix was known for the most color accurate printers in the business. Xerox purchased their printer division in an effort get into the desktop and small office market. Xerox is typically years ahead of the industry in their technology. They've continued the Tektronix quality with Xerox's history of innovation. I have a Tektronix Phaser at home and we have one here in the office. You simply can't beat them when it comes to speed, accuracy and ease of use. You want to add ink, you simply lift the lid and drop ink into the color and shape coded slots - yes they shape code their ink so you can't mess it up. Total time: less than 10 seconds. http://www.officeprinting.xerox.com/ We have two HP color laser printers - they're incredibly slow and their color printing is so far off it's embarrassing. We've had them "calibrated" every 2-3 months by the HP service techs and they're still horrible. You want to change ink, well that will take you around 10 minutes. HP does a great job with BW printers, but their color printers aren't worth their weight in water. Canon does a nice job with color printers - they base their technology on Xerox technologies that are about 6-10 years old. Still very good, but not quite up to snuff with Xerox. Color accuracy on the Canon models are better than HP, but still don't compare to Xerox. And changing ink and using the printer (e.g. changing settings from the printer if necessary) is still not as easy as the Xerox models - remember these guys invented the GUI. Typically, both Canon and Xerox have some type of colour correction/adjustement software built into their software drivers - and it's much better than HP. On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 08:50 AM, Charles Dyer wrote: > That's because Apple ain't in the printer business no more. > > Check out HP, Canon, Xerox, etc. > > HP 2500 starts at US$900, which isn't expensive for a colour laser. > HP's site shows two downloads, totalling about 7 MB, of stuff for it > and OS X so I assume it's compat. Cheers! Todd R. Warfel _//message first [method second] -=========================- User Experience Consultant message first [P] (607) 339-9640 [E] twarfel@messagefirst.com [w] http://messagefirst.com -=========================- In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not. From ort at bergersen.no Wed Apr 30 02:01:09 2003 From: ort at bergersen.no (Richard Taubo) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Spoofing and apple calling home . . . Message-ID: <088C36F1-7AE8-11D7-A189-00039314B070@bergersen.no> Hi! One of my users has a Powerbook with an airport card. Once in a while a get the following message from our Firewall (mac address below is changed to hide the real identity): 04/30/2003 09:32:59.512 - IP spoof detected - Source:10.0.1.2, 123, LAN - Destination:17.72.133.45, 123, WAN - MAC address: 00.xx.xx.xx.9E.9F - It turns out that the MAC address belongs to the network card installed in the Powerbook (not the airport card), but this card is not physically connected to our network through an ethernet cable. Running ifconfig I can?t see that the IP address 10.0.1.2 is even configured. Finally the ip address: 17.72.133.45 points to so I believe this is initiated from an apple program calling home. I have three questions: 1) How can a network card not physically connected to the network cause a spoof? 2) Where is ip address 10.0.1.2 configured -- I can?t see it in ifconfig? 3) How can I stop this behaviour? Thanks for input! :-) Best regards, Richard Taubo From Axel.Rau at Chaos1.DE Wed Apr 30 02:11:32 2003 From: Axel.Rau at Chaos1.DE (Axel Rau) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Trouble with Journaling of mirrored RAIDset on SCSI disks In-Reply-To: <888C25F8-7A72-11D7-BABB-000393D42984@epicware.com> Message-ID: Am Dienstag, 29.04.03, um 20:43 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Eric Peyton: > > On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 12:42PM, Axel Rau wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I enabled journaling on several mirrors (AppleRAID) on a 10.2.5 OSX >> (not server) box. >> This works well on ATA and firewire disks, but deadlocks very soon on >> SCSI disks. >> >> It can be reproduced easy on a G4 (2002) with a Atto UL3S and 2 spare >> disks >> (IBM 4GB U2W): >> >> 1. unmount RAID components >> umount /dev/disk10 >> umount /dev/disk8 >> 2. create RAID >> diskutil createRAID mirror RD1213 HFS+ disk8 disk10 >> 3. enable journaling >> diskutil enableJournal /Volumes/RD1213 >> 4. load some data on new RAID set >> ditto -rsrc /System /Volumes/RD1213/System >> ditto /usr /Volumes/RD1213/usr (system hangs) >> >> Anybody tried this? >> Any suggestions? >> > > I suggest you file a bug with apple. > > Eric Eric, thanks for your reply. I forgot to mention it: It's Bug # 3222787, Date: 2003-04-09, State: Open/Analyze ;-). Axel Computing @ Chaos Claudius -Motivation by consistency: Cocoa Axel Rau, Frankfurt, Germany Phone:49-69-951418-0, Fax: -55 email:Axel.Rau@Chaos1.DE,Mime ok,MS-Word-documents only as HTML From janos.lobb at yale.edu Wed Apr 30 02:42:03 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Partitioning and Mirroring on an xServe ? In-Reply-To: <7C340D41-7982-11D7-885F-000393C48A5C@wdstudio.com> Message-ID: Walter, Can you point me to a URL for more info on it ? Thanks ahead, J?nos On Monday, Apr 28, 2003, at 10:05 America/New_York, Walter Lee Davis wrote: > Wasn't there some trick involving mounting and sharing a disk image to > enforce volume sizes? > > Walter > > On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 09:55 AM, Eric Peyton wrote: > >> [snip] >>> I also heard that if I leave the mirrored drives a one big one, >>> then I will not able to set usage limits on folders what I want to >>> treat as "partitions". >> >> Do you mean quotas? OS X Server supports quotas, but I'm not sure if >> that is what you mean. If you mean a limit on an arbitrary folder, >> then the answer is no, you can't set an arbitrary folder size. >> >> Eric >> [snip] > > ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From dreamless at attbi.com Wed Apr 30 02:54:33 2003 From: dreamless at attbi.com (Nick Zitzmann) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Spoofing and apple calling home . . . In-Reply-To: <088C36F1-7AE8-11D7-A189-00039314B070@bergersen.no> Message-ID: <61BD8E8B-7AEF-11D7-AE1C-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 01:45 AM, Richard Taubo wrote: > 2) Where is ip address 10.0.1.2 configured -- I can?t see it in > ifconfig? 10.0.1.2 sounds like some test address, or maybe an address for a device on a local network that goes out to the 'net using NAT. Are you sure you're listing all the interfaces? "ifconfig -a" should list all of the interfaces on the system careless of whether they're up or down. > 3) How can I stop this behaviour? AFAIK the only core OS X component that calls home is Software Update, so maybe turning off auto-update would help? Nick Zitzmann AIM/iChat: dragonsdontsleep Check out my software page: http://dreamless.home.attbi.com/ "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." - Metal Gear Solid 2 From charlesd at newsguy.com Wed Apr 30 03:11:59 2003 From: charlesd at newsguy.com (Charles Dyer) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: <72BF7B1A-7A4E-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> References: <72BF7B1A-7A4E-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Message-ID: At 16:25 +0200 29/04/2003, Gerben Wierda wrote: >On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 15:46 Europe/Amsterdam, Charles Dyer wrote: > >>The better Tek lasers are crayonjets: solid ink inkjets. They print >>on just about any stock from tissue paper to cardboard. They give >>good colour. They're fairly quick. The printers themselves are >>reasonably priced. They also suck down solid ink carts like there's >>no tomorrow. Perhaps things have changed since I last bought one, >>but one prominent feature of the manual in the last Tek I used was >>the warning to not turn it off unnecessarily, as the on/off head >>cleaning cycle would eat 10-25% of the ink cart. Yes, folks, you >>could use up all your ink in a few as four on/off cycles, without >>printing a thing. That machine stayed on permanently. > >Ugh. A machine that stays on all the time is not what I want. I am a >very low-volume user, I just want very good results *when* I print. Check them out anyway. They may have fixed that problem with the head-cleaning cycle, God knows that we complain about it enough and I'm sure that we're not alone. Unless you're going to spend a _lot_ of money on a serious inkjet or a big Canon, your choice is to go with the HP and live with the not-so-great colour, go with an inkjet and live with the not-so-great text, or go with a Tek. Right now an Epson C82 will handle _most_ letter/legal jobs. The HP equivalent would ba a 61xx series, and the Canon would probably be an i550. They all start at under US$200. This is a big jump below the price of even the cheapest colour laser. -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Stability is irrelevant. Where _you_ want to go to today is irrelevant. We will add your currency to our own. Bend over right now. Resistance is futile. From hmag at ozemail.com.au Wed Apr 30 03:24:07 2003 From: hmag at ozemail.com.au (Terry Allen) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Spoofing and apple calling home . . . In-Reply-To: <61BD8E8B-7AEF-11D7-AE1C-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> References: <61BD8E8B-7AEF-11D7-AE1C-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> Message-ID: >On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 01:45 AM, Richard Taubo wrote: > >>2) Where is ip address 10.0.1.2 configured -- I can?t see it in ifconfig? > >10.0.1.2 sounds like some test address, or maybe an address for a >device on a local network that goes out to the 'net using NAT. Are >you sure you're listing all the interfaces? "ifconfig -a" should >list all of the interfaces on the system careless of whether they're >up or down. > Hi again, the 10.0.x.x range is often used by some broadband ISPs as an internal range for their networks - similar to the 192.168.0.x range. -- Bye for now, Terry Allen ___________________________________________________________________ hEARd Postal Address: hEARd, 26B Glenning Rd, Glenning Valley, NSW 2261, Australia Internet - WWW: http://heard.com.au or http://www.ozemail.com.au/~hmag http://hosting.heard.com.au - http://itavservices.com Interactive Message Board - http://heard.com.au/wwwboard/ EMAIL: (checked every Thursday & Sunday, sometimes more often) hmag@ozemail.com.au Phone: Australia - 02 4388 1400 / International - + 61 2 43881400 Mobile: Australia - 04 28881400 / International - 61 4 28881400 ----------------------------------------------- Non profit promotion for new music - since 1994 ----------------------------------------------- From charlesd at newsguy.com Wed Apr 30 03:32:50 2003 From: charlesd at newsguy.com (Charles Dyer) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: <5144290.1051621628792.JavaMail.ellem52@mac.com> References: <5144290.1051621628792.JavaMail.ellem52@mac.com> Message-ID: At 09:07 -0400 29/04/2003, Lou Moran wrote: > >On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 08:50AM, Charles Dyer > wrote: > >>At 18:59 +0200 28/04/2003, Gerben Wierda wrote: >>>See subject. I tried searching Apple's web site but could not find >>>anything on the subject. >> >>That's because Apple ain't in the printer business no more. >> >>Check out HP, Canon, Xerox, etc. >> >>HP 2500 starts at US$900, which isn't expensive for a colour laser. >>HP's site shows two downloads, totalling about 7 MB, of stuff for it >>and OS X so I assume it's compat. > >What's expensive? For a color laser Tektronix (Xerox) makes a >really good, professional printer for about 1100USD. HP 4600s start at US$2000. HP 5500s start at US$3250. A 2500 is less than half the price of a 4600. 4600s basically replace the old 4500s, at a slightly lower price point and with more features. 5500s basically replace the old 8500s, at a significantly lower price point and with more features. In the Bad Old Daze (say, three years ago) a 300 or 600 dpi, letter/legal, 8 ppm colour laser could cost US$3000-6000. HP 2500s are 600 dpi, letter/legal, 16 ppm (black)/4 ppm (colour) and cost US$900-1800, depending on precise model. HP 5500s are 600 dpi, tabloid/super B, 21 ppm (black/colour) and cost US$3250-5900. There has been a significant increase in ability coupled with a very significant decrease in price. The better Tek lasers are crayonjets: solid ink inkjets. They print on just about any stock from tissue paper to cardboard. They give good colour. They're fairly quick. The printers themselves are reasonably priced. They also suck down solid ink carts like there's no tomorrow. Perhaps things have changed since I last bought one, but one prominent feature of the manual in the last Tek I used was the warning to not turn it off unnecessarily, as the on/off head cleaning cycle would eat 10-25% of the ink cart. Yes, folks, you could use up all your ink in a few as four on/off cycles, without printing a thing. That machine stayed on permanently. -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Stability is irrelevant. Where _you_ want to go to today is irrelevant. We will add your currency to our own. Bend over right now. Resistance is futile. From jwelch at aer.com Wed Apr 30 03:44:01 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: AFP sharing from command line In-Reply-To: <758EEDB2-774C-11D7-B0D0-0003933ED798@TrueStep.com> Message-ID: On 04/25/2003 14:33, "Rory Arms" wrote: > Exactly, on a LAN I see no problem using it. NFS wasn't designed for > the public Internet anyhow. It's been around for ages and supported > most all unix-based OSs, as you mentioned. One can also add NFS > services to NT as well. With unix based OSs it is usually given > priority, since it's considered part of the base system. NFSv4 looks > exiting, as it should support ACLs, among other things. > > It's not a solution for everyone I guess, but to each his/her own. I > think though, in certain networks, it's a good choice as far as network > file systems go. That's nice. Name the operating systems that let you set up NFSv4 sharing with ease enough so that you can teach a luser to do it. Hell, name the OS's that use NFSv4 today. john -- "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin, 1759 From morten.ronseth at rayon.no Wed Apr 30 04:06:26 2003 From: morten.ronseth at rayon.no (Morten R=?ISO-8859-1?B?+A==?=nseth) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Filedescriptors In-Reply-To: <5144290.1051621628792.JavaMail.ellem52@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi all, I have a 10.2.4 box that we use for http serving. After a couple of weeks continuous running, apache will no longer server images and when we log on using ssh the server reports that it is running out of filedescriptors. Is this something to do with OSX? Could it be that PHP scripts "forget2 to close their filedescriptors? (thought they were closed automatically when scripts exited...). Or, is there another reason for this? And, how can we correct the situation? Currently, we gave the server reboot once a week, but I'd rather keep the server uninterrupted. Any pointers? Cheers, -Morten ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rayon Interactive AS http://www.rayon.no Morten Lerskau R?nseth mailto:morten.ronseth@rayon.no Karenslyst All? 16d Tlf.: (47) 2213 5250 0278 Oslo Fax : (47) 2213 5260 Norway PGP fingerprint: F851 91B6 1D81 1409 8B62 3E14 5A60 65F8 5AF4 56AF From mailing.lists at creed.co.uk Wed Apr 30 04:14:30 2003 From: mailing.lists at creed.co.uk (Andy Warwick) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Newbie, setting up shared domains Message-ID: <8BFC3C46-7A5E-11D7-A455-000A959F2F8E@creed.co.uk> Bit of a newbie question, but I'd appreciate the help. I've gone as far as I can on my own, just need some confirmation I'm okay. I'm in the process of setting up a copy of Mac OS X server 10.2.5 on and old B+W G3 to provide shared files and web sites to the 2/3 desktop machines I use. The main purpose is to streamline where files are stored, and ensure I -- and the occasional freelancer -- have access to common files from any machine, rather than copy various stuff around the network. The ultimate goal is a CVS and web server on the G3 that is accessible from outside my LAN using a dyndns.org address. I've got the DNS working okay, and am now looking to set up a number of NetInfo domains on the machine to rationalize the User accounts and file and folder permissions. I've read the "Administrators Guide" and the "Understanding and Using NetInfo" docs from Apple, and believe I have the concepts down okay, but before I start messing with the command line or NetInfo wanted to ensure I've got the rights values. My server is abydos.local at 10.0.1.2 I want to create following the domain hierarchy: root domain [tag:creed] -- intranet domain [tag:wan] ----- employees [tag:network] -------- G4 workstation (anubis.local) -------- G3 workstation (set.local) ----- freelancers [tag:network] -------- ibook workstation (cronus.local) -- extranet domain [tag:wan] ... follows similar pattern All domains with the exception of the 'local' workstations will sit on the server. I think I need the following set up in NetInfo, in the machines entry: Root Domain (/) ip_address: 10.0.1.2 name: abydos.local serves : ./creed intranet/wan extranet/wan Intranet Domain (/intranet) ip_address: 10.0.1.2 name: abydos.local serves : ./intranet ../creed employees/network freelancer/network Extranet Domain (/extranet) ip_address: 10.0.1.2 name: abydos.local serves : ./extranet ../creed clients/network suppliers/network Employees Domain (/intranet/employees) ip_address: 10.0.1.2 name: abydos.local serves : ./network ../wan anubis/local and so on... The workstations then have the default localhost and broadcast host entries. Am I on the right track? Have I missed anything? Is there a 'best practice' way of doing this? TIA Regards Andy Warwick Creed New Media Design -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2549 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/macosx-admin/attachments/20030430/fa2e4f53/attachment.bin From Sherlock at rna.nl Wed Apr 30 04:22:05 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <72BF7B1A-7A4E-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 15:46 Europe/Amsterdam, Charles Dyer wrote: > The better Tek lasers are crayonjets: solid ink inkjets. They print on > just about any stock from tissue paper to cardboard. They give good > colour. They're fairly quick. The printers themselves are reasonably > priced. They also suck down solid ink carts like there's no tomorrow. > Perhaps things have changed since I last bought one, but one prominent > feature of the manual in the last Tek I used was the warning to not > turn it off unnecessarily, as the on/off head cleaning cycle would eat > 10-25% of the ink cart. Yes, folks, you could use up all your ink in a > few as four on/off cycles, without printing a thing. That machine > stayed on permanently. Ugh. A machine that stays on all the time is not what I want. I am a very low-volume user, I just want very good results *when* I print. G -- "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides From mailing.lists at creed.co.uk Wed Apr 30 04:47:07 2003 From: mailing.lists at creed.co.uk (Andy Warwick) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Newbie, setting up shared domains In-Reply-To: <9B9CA126-7AFB-11D7-AD70-0003934C92FC@is.rice.edu> Message-ID: <9EC5F9BE-7B00-11D7-B4E4-000A959F2F8E@creed.co.uk> On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 12:05 pm, Lance Ogletree wrote: > Andy, > I put together a while back some instruction guides for dealing with > WGM and Netinfo domain creation under 10.2 server. Lance I've just had a quick flick through that stuff. Looks like exactly what I needed; why couldn't I find *that* link in Google!!! This ought to be linked from Apple's knowledge base, or the software's built-in help. I've CC'd the list, so it'll at least be in the archives of this thread. Won't get a chance to look at this in detail for a couple of days (it's a weekend job), but this look like a great resource to make the task much easier. > They might have some benefit to you. They will indeed. > Rajpaul and Michael Bartosh were instrumental for me as well in > getting a grasp on the concepts. Many, many thanks to you all :) Andy From chris at improbable.org Wed Apr 30 04:53:33 2003 From: chris at improbable.org (Chris Adams) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5A9D6C34-7A91-11D7-AC4E-0003931044DC@improbable.org> On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 07:03 AM, Charles Dyer wrote: > If you want _good_ colour, get a Tek, a Canon, or an inkjet. A _good_ > inkjet. If you want _fast_ colour, get a HP. I used to agree with this but HP's recent printers have been, to put it politely, garbage. They're slow, unreliable, and have their characteristic mediocre postscript support. We're much happier with the Xerox Phasers we've been buying recently - the 8200DXs are one of only two printers where we actually see something close to the listed print speed (the other is a high-end Canon copier) and they have a solid PostScript 3 engine. Much of the difference is simply processor speed - HP's printers tend to have comparatively slow processors so it's unsurprising that they can't keep the print engine loaded. Chris From mailing.lists at creed.co.uk Wed Apr 30 05:02:56 2003 From: mailing.lists at creed.co.uk (Andy Warwick) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Newbie, setting up shared domains In-Reply-To: <9EC5F9BE-7B00-11D7-B4E4-000A959F2F8E@creed.co.uk> Message-ID: <63EB9898-7B02-11D7-B4E4-000A959F2F8E@creed.co.uk> On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 12:41 pm, Andy Warwick wrote: > I've just had a quick flick through that stuff. Looks like exactly > what I needed; why couldn't I find *that* link in Google!!! This ought > to be linked from Apple's knowledge base, or the software's built-in > help. > > I've CC'd the list, so it'll at least be in the archives of this > thread. Of course, it might help to include the link... Doh! Andy From lance at mac.com Wed Apr 30 05:05:41 2003 From: lance at mac.com (Lance Westerhoff (mac)) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: NFS problems (Mac OS X <-> Linux) 2 Message-ID: Hello All- Sorry if you received this already. I think I may have sent it from the wrong email. We have a machine set up (running Mac OS X 10.2.5 CLIENT) and we've been having problems when it runs as an NFS server to a couple of Linux Redhat 7.3 boxes and an IRIX box. (1) Locking issues where the client (linux and IRIX) computers lock up and are unable to write to NFS - this happens for about 10 seconds several times a day. Unfortunately, this is particularly annoying because the Linux users' home directories reside on the Mac OS X box. (2) The second one can be just as annoying. Whenever we need to restart the Mac OS X box, the Linux boxes will never remount. In fact, I also have an IRIX box that is also mounting this machine, and it too has the same problem. The client computers must restart as well in order to remount the server. Weird considering we are also running a linux cluster where several linux boxes mount into a single linux boxes for $HOME and I can restart this Linux server machine all I want. I guess the question I have is this an inherant flaw in Apple's implementation, the Redhat implementation, the SGI implementation, or something else going on. Has anyone seen this before? I have am really into Mac, but unfortunately most of these Linux people see it as a Mac problem, which can't help their perception of the Mac platform. Any suggestions/web links would be much appreciated. Thanks! -Lance _______________________ Lance M. Westerhoff Computational Biochemistry Pennsylvania State University - Chemistry - Merz Research Group Email: lance@chem.psu.edu AIM: lance@mac.com Web: http://merz.chem.psu.edu/~lance/ From lance at mac.com Wed Apr 30 05:07:40 2003 From: lance at mac.com (Lance Westerhoff (mac)) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: NFS problems (Mac OS X <-> Linux) Message-ID: Hello All- We have a machine set up (running Mac OS X 10.2.5 CLIENT) and we've been having problems when it runs as an NFS server to a couple of Linux Redhat 7.3 boxes and an IRIX box. (1) Locking issues where the client (linux and IRIX) computers lock up and are unable to write to NFS - this happens for about 10 seconds several times a day. Unfortunately, this is particularly annoying because the Linux users' home directories reside on the Mac OS X box. (2) The second one can be just as annoying. Whenever we need to restart the Mac OS X box, the Linux boxes will never remount. In fact, I also have an IRIX box that is also mounting this machine, and it too has the same problem. The client computers must restart as well in order to remount the server. Weird considering we are also running a linux cluster where several linux boxes mount into a single linux boxes for $HOME and I can restart this Linux server machine all I want. I guess the question I have is this an inherant flaw in Apple's implementation, the Redhat implementation, the SGI implementation, or something else going on. Has anyone seen this before? I have am really into Mac, but unfortunately most of these Linux people see it as a Mac problem, which can't help their perception of the Mac platform. Any suggestions/web links would be much appreciated. Thanks! -Lance _______________________ Lance M. Westerhoff Computational Biochemistry Pennsylvania State University - Chemistry - Merz Research Group Email: lance@chem.psu.edu AIM: lance@mac.com Web: http://merz.chem.psu.edu/~lance/ From johannes at connected.ch Wed Apr 30 05:14:19 2003 From: johannes at connected.ch (Johannes Vetsch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Spoofing and apple calling home . . . In-Reply-To: <61BD8E8B-7AEF-11D7-AE1C-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> Message-ID: <092DAE88-7B04-11D7-A0CD-000393764C26@connected.ch> Am Mittwoch, 30.04.03 um 11:37 Uhr schrieb Nick Zitzmann: > > On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 01:45 AM, Richard Taubo wrote: > >> 2) Where is ip address 10.0.1.2 configured -- I can?t see it in >> ifconfig? > > 10.0.1.2 sounds like some test address, or maybe an address for a > device on a local network that goes out to the 'net using NAT. Are you > sure you're listing all the interfaces? "ifconfig -a" should list all > of the interfaces on the system careless of whether they're up or > down. > >> 3) How can I stop this behaviour? > > AFAIK the only core OS X component that calls home is Software Update, > so maybe turning off auto-update would help? apple.com/euro could also be the the timeserver (also set by default to call when connected to the internet) johannes > > Nick Zitzmann > AIM/iChat: dragonsdontsleep > Check out my software page: http://dreamless.home.attbi.com/ > > "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same > thing." - Metal Gear Solid 2 > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > From jwelch at aer.com Wed Apr 30 05:15:13 2003 From: jwelch at aer.com (John C. Welch) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: <8EB1864A-7A45-11D7-A3A7-003065D62A38@mk27.com> Message-ID: On 04/29/2003 09:21, "Todd R. Warfel" wrote: > Tektronix was known for the most color accurate printers in the > business. Xerox purchased their printer division in an effort get into > the desktop and small office market. Xerox is typically years ahead of > the industry in their technology. They've continued the Tektronix > quality with Xerox's history of innovation. I have a Tektronix Phaser > at home and we have one here in the office. You simply can't beat them > when it comes to speed, accuracy and ease of use. You want to add ink, > you simply lift the lid and drop ink into the color and shape coded > slots - yes they shape code their ink so you can't mess it up. Total > time: less than 10 seconds. I'll second this. The Xerox Phaser 1235DX I use is a thing of joy to use, maintain, and administrate. john -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europe vincendarum. (Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe.) Jeff La Grua From mrmacman_g4 at mac.com Wed Apr 30 05:19:55 2003 From: mrmacman_g4 at mac.com (Kyle Moffett) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Postfix with SASL on Mac OS X 10.2? In-Reply-To: <8067C326-7A79-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Message-ID: <64C19CA9-7AAB-11D7-AB57-000393ACC76E@mac.com> On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 15:33 US/Eastern, Gerben Wierda wrote: > So I am stuck. Is there a way to get SASL Postfix working on Mac OS X? First, get Fink (http://fink.sourceforge.net/), then enable the unstable tree: (See http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-fink.php#unstable) Despite what this says, the unstable tree works reasonably well, you just may need to file a bug-report and wait a few times to before the package you want works. I use Postfix and SASL2 myself, though, so they at least compile, as of today. Next run: fink install cyrus-sasl2 cyrus-sasl2-dev cyrus-sasl2-doc cyrus-sasl2-shlibs That will compile and install the latest Cyrus SASL. (2.1.13) Now run: fink install postfix-release Now postfix and sasl2 are installed and ready to configure in /sw To enable postfix, run: sudo mta-switch postfix sudo daemonic enable postfix As per the command 'fink info postfix-release' Then have fun! Cheers, Kyle Moffett -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS/IT/U d- s++:- a16 C++++>$ UB/L/X/*++++(+)>$ P+++(++++)>$ L+++(++) E W++(+) N+++(++) o? K? w---(-) O? M++ V? PS+() PE+(-) Y+ PGP? t+(+++) 5 X R? tv-(--) b++++(++) DI+ D+ G e->++++$ h! !r-- !y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From ryanwilcox at mac.com Wed Apr 30 05:39:40 2003 From: ryanwilcox at mac.com (Ryan Wilcox) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Sendmail + MX Points-To-Me Issues In-Reply-To: <50683AB2-7A89-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Message-ID: <6EA8314A-7AC4-11D7-9223-000502BD4C9B@mac.com> Ok, I've got some sendmail issues... the primary one being that it won't send ;) I have my Web Server set up to run sendmail as well. We want to have sendmail sending mail from this machine, but our actual mail _server_ is another machine (running EIMS). (We just need sendmail running on the webserver for Bugzilla and PHP stuff, really) chultha.com is the web server mail.chultha.com is our primary mail server So now down to the problem: All outgoing mail fails with: 553 5.3.5 mail.chultha.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error So... how do I get mail sending out? We first had a problem trying to send to just users in the chultha.com domain, but apparently I've made it worse, and we can't send mail to anywhere else either. Currently our DNS (using Mice And Men's QuickDNS Pro(?)) is set up like this: Name Type Priority Data chultha.com MX 0 mail.chultha.com chultha.com MX 10 osx.chultha.com chultha.com A 129.21.139.4 mail.chultha.com A 129.21.139.5 www.chultha.com CNAME chultha.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------- Sendmail reports itself as... % sendmail -d0 < /dev/null Version 8.12.7 Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINFO NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING SCANF USERDB XDEBUG ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ (short domain name) $w = chultha (canonical domain name) $j = chultha.com (subdomain name) $m = com (node name) $k = osx.chultha.com ======================================================== Snippets from config.mc follow... divert(0)dnl VERSIONID(`$Id: generic-darwin.mc,v 1.3 2002/04/12 18:41:47 bbraun Exp $') OSTYPE(darwin)dnl DOMAIN(generic)dnl undefine(`ALIAS_FILE') define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail') define(`confDONT_BLAME_SENDMAIL', `GroupWritableDirPathSafe') #define(`SMART_HOST', `mail. chultha.com') #define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `osx.chultha.com') define(`LUSER_RELAY', `local:rwilcox') FEATURE(`smrsh',`/usr/libexec/smrsh') FEATURE(local_procmail) FEATURE(`virtusertable',`hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable')dnl FEATURE(`genericstable', `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable')dnl FEATURE(`mailertable',`hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable')dnl FEATURE(`access_db')dnl MAILER(smtp) MAILER(procmail) As you can see, I was experimenting with SMART_HOST and confDOMAINNAME, but those didn't seem to work. I've looked at O'Reilly's Sendmail book... but at over 1200 pages... (or two slots on Safari) it's a hefty little tome. Do I have any sendmail experts in the crowd? Thanks for any hope, -Ryan Wilcox Must... not...saw.. off... fingers... From lists at mk27.com Wed Apr 30 06:13:01 2003 From: lists at mk27.com (Todd R. Warfel) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5C198DE8-7B0D-11D7-B10D-003065D62A38@mk27.com> Not the case anymore. Cleaning does use quite a bit of ink, but not as much as you're stating below. It's pretty minimal now. We've found that a box of ink lasts us several months at 5000-6000 pagers per month. On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 09:46 AM, Charles Dyer wrote: > They also suck down solid ink carts like there's no tomorrow. Perhaps > things have changed since I last bought one, but one prominent feature > of the manual in the last Tek I used was the warning to not turn it > off unnecessarily, as the on/off head cleaning cycle would eat 10-25% > of the ink cart. Yes, folks, you could use up all your ink in a few as > four on/off cycles, without printing a thing. That machine stayed on > permanently. Cheers! Todd R. Warfel _//message first [method second] -=========================- User Experience Architect Cornell University Lab of Ornithology [P] (607) 254-2477 [F] (607) 254-2415 [E] todd.warfel@cornell.edu -=========================- In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not. From lists at mk27.com Wed Apr 30 06:16:02 2003 From: lists at mk27.com (Todd R. Warfel) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: <72BF7B1A-7A4E-11D7-97CF-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> Message-ID: You can leave it on and it goes to sleep. It doesn't stay "on" in the traditional manner. When you want to print to it, you print and it simply wakes up, prints, stays awake for 20-30 minutes incase you want to print again, then goes back to sleep. On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 10:25 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote: > Ugh. A machine that stays on all the time is not what I want. I am a > very low-volume user, I just want very good results *when* I print. > Cheers! Todd R. Warfel _//message first [method second] -=========================- User Experience Consultant message first [P] (607) 339-9640 [E] twarfel@messagefirst.com [w] http://messagefirst.com -=========================- In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not. From rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu Wed Apr 30 06:46:01 2003 From: rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu (Ross Bogue) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:07 AM -0400 4/30/03, John C. Welch wrote: > >I'll second this. The Xerox Phaser 1235DX I use is a thing of joy to use, >maintain, and administrate. I had a Tek Phaser 350. Yes, color and network support were good. But after about 1 year, the broke. Tek/Xerox wouldn't sell parts to the local shop, so it had to go back to the factory. Total cost of repair: over $600 and several months hassle. One year later, the newly-replaced fuser broke again. Another big repair bill. I got rid of it a couple months ago. Guess which part was broken again? Not to mention that the color crayons cost $30 each and didn't last very long at all. -- Dr. Ross Bogue Physics Department Illinois State University From Sherlock at rna.nl Wed Apr 30 08:26:01 2003 From: Sherlock at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: ssh on 10.1.4 to sshd on 10.2.4 problems (immediate EOF). Known? Message-ID: <253B7FFC-7B20-11D7-8D61-0003930AD8A4@rna.nl> I have created a sshd setup on my system. Normally, any ssh can login there fine. I have tried putty on Windows, ssh on linux, and others have tried more versions. They all work. But when a friend of mine tries to log in with ssh from 10.1.4 he gets an EOF immediately after the "Welcome to Darwin" message. So logging in works, but the shell fails. this does not depend on the shell in question. Strangely enough he also cannot connect to an IMAPS setup I have created. I have not tested that yet from other systems and it is unclear of both problems are related (could be if it is in the OpenSSL framework somewhere). Question: is this a known problem or have others experienced this? Is there something I could try to solve this? Thanks, Gerben -- "To be or not to be, that is the question" -- Parmenides From leonvs at occam.com Wed Apr 30 08:32:02 2003 From: leonvs at occam.com (Leon Towns-von Stauber) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Spoofing and apple calling home . . . In-Reply-To: <088C36F1-7AE8-11D7-A189-00039314B070@bergersen.no> Message-ID: > 04/30/2003 09:32:59.512 - IP spoof detected - Source:10.0.1.2, 123, > LAN - > Destination:17.72.133.45, 123, WAN - MAC address: 00.xx.xx.xx.9E.9F - > > It turns out that the MAC address belongs to the network card > installed in the Powerbook (not the airport card), but this card is > not physically connected to our network through an ethernet cable. > Running ifconfig I can?t see that the IP address 10.0.1.2 is even > configured. Finally the ip address: 17.72.133.45 points to > so I believe this is initiated from an > apple program calling home. > > I have three questions: > 1) How can a network card not physically connected to the network > cause a spoof? Not sure about that one. > 2) Where is ip address 10.0.1.2 configured -- I can?t see it in > ifconfig? Check the Network settings in System Preferences. > 3) How can I stop this behaviour? Port 123 is NTP. If you want to stop it, go into SysPrefs, under Date & Time, and uncheck "Use a network time server" (or change the NTP Server setting to another of your preference). _____________________________________________________________ Leon Towns-von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/ "We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!" From janos.lobb at yale.edu Wed Apr 30 09:09:02 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: file:\\server\volume\path\file naming convention problem in web pages and OSX Message-ID: <09D60E58-7B26-11D7-AB47-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> Hi, At my institution some of the financial reports are Brio Query reports and on a PC they are downloaded to the local machine via a call like: > file:\\yupsdbxy\rptlibrary$\BUG\QRYdata\BUG303 Interfund transfers.BQY Then the browser - Netscape 4.7x - launches Brio as a helper application and the users able to run query from Brio and the data is retrieved into the report from the database. It is nice and simple on a PC. When I try to do the same from a Mac I run into the following difficulties: - When I am at that point that I try to download the query by clicking on a link which has the following code: Open The Netscape 4.7.x browser - OS9 or Classic - puts up an error box telling that "Netscape is unable to find the file or directory named \\yupsdbxy\rptlibrary$\BUG\QRYdata\BUG303 Interfund transfers.BQY. My guess here is that the Mac has problem with the "Universal Naming Convention" used by Microsoft. If I try the same with any of the newer browsers like Safari, Omniweb, Netscape 7 or Internet Exploder, I am not getting any error message, the browsers just stop right there or they try to locate the file locally on my machine. My questions are: - What browser should I use in OSX which is not chocking on such MS like file:\\... calling ? - How the HREF should be coded to work well for both PCs and Macs ? - How other folks - like those dear ones at MIT who also use Brio and OSX - solved this problem ? The administrator friend of the site says to me: - The server on which the .BQY query files are installed (YUPSDBXY) is not running file services for Macintosh. - The web server on which Bug is installed is running Microsoft IIS so that may be a problem for you as well. Despite of his warnings I would like this thing to work for the Macs too. Thanks ahead, J?nos ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From stuart.roebuck at adolos.co.uk Wed Apr 30 09:16:01 2003 From: stuart.roebuck at adolos.co.uk (Stuart Roebuck) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Mac OS X 10.2.x: Print Dialogs, PPDs, Maximum Open Files, crashes, etc. Message-ID: I'm trying to find out why a printing system bug in Mac OS X 10.2.x (e.g. 10.2.1 to 10.2.5) doesn't appear to be getting reported despite it being a big problem for a number of my customers. The problem basically boils down to this: o Every time you display a print dialog when a postscript printer is selected, 8 parsedPPD files are produced in the /tmp/UID/Temporary Items/ directory. (where UID is your numerical user id). o These files are opened by the running application and remain open until the application closes. o If you bring up the print dialog approx. 30 times (depending upon how many other files are used by the application) you run into the maximum number of open files per process restriction (256) and most applications then start to misbehave, either crashing, claiming they are out of memory, claiming disk write errors or disk errors, or simply failing to save files, print or quit. <>--------------------------------------------------<> It's easy to verify this problem. Just open TextEdit and bring up the print dialog, then watch the number of files in /tmp/UID/Temporary Items/ grow. At any point use: fstat | grep TextEdit to display the number of open files and note that the length of most of them coincides with the length of the parsedPPD files in /tmp/UID/Temporary Items/. <>--------------------------------------------------<> Is anyone else experiencing this, or does nobody else work in an environment where people print large numbers of items every day from a single application to a postscript printer? Stuart. Public Key - 1024D/88DD65AF 2001-11-23 Stuart Roebuck (Adolos) Key fingerprint = 89D9 E405 F8B1 9B22 0FA2 F2C1 9E57 5AB1 88DD 65AF ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Stuart Roebuck, BSc, MBA Tel.: 0131 228 4853 / Fax.: 0870 054 8322 Managing Director ADOLOS From rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu Wed Apr 30 09:27:01 2003 From: rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu (Ross Bogue) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: file:\\server\volume\path\file naming convention problem in web pages and OSX In-Reply-To: <09D60E58-7B26-11D7-AB47-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> References: <09D60E58-7B26-11D7-AB47-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> Message-ID: At 12:08 PM -0400 4/30/03, J?nos L?bb wrote: > >At my institution some of the financial reports are Brio Query >reports and on a PC they are downloaded to the local machine via a >call like: > >>file:\\yupsdbxy\rptlibrary$\BUG\QRYdata\BUG303 Interfund transfers.BQY 1) A "file://" URL refers to a file on the local machine. Is the file on the local machine? 2) The backslash '\' is non-standard. What happens if you replace the backslashes with forward slashes, and the blank spaces with %20? -- Dr. Ross Bogue Physics Department Illinois State University From chad+macosx at objectwerks.com Wed Apr 30 09:55:06 2003 From: chad+macosx at objectwerks.com (Chad Leigh -- ObjectWerks Inc.) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <555F6230-7B2B-11D7-AB28-003065A70D30@objectwerks.com> On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 17:16 US/Mountain, Charles Dyer wrote: > Right now an Epson C82 will handle _most_ letter/legal jobs. The HP > equivalent would ba a 61xx series, and the Canon would probably be an > i550. They all start at under US$200. This is a big jump below the > price of even the cheapest colour laser. > I have a C82 which I just bought. The black text looks really nice on cheap laser paper, but you can still tell. I bought it to print photos of our 3 month old son. It does a realy really reallly good job at that, on the right paper. I found the cheaper heavy matte photo paper (closer to $0.20 a sheet than $1 a sheet like the glossy stuff) works best for my prints and they look realy really reallly good. I use my HP Laserjet 2100 for any rel black text and important printouts though. I don't know how the non photo color is on the C82. I have mistakenly printed some web pages on it and they looked ok. I just use el cheap copy paper. Chad From bill at celestial.com Wed Apr 30 10:53:02 2003 From: bill at celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: NFS problems (Mac OS X <-> Linux) In-Reply-To: ; from lance@mac.com on Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 08:14:18PM -0400 References: Message-ID: <20030430104912.A25328@barryg.mi.celestial.com> On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 08:14:18PM -0400, Lance Westerhoff wrote: >Hello All- > >We have a machine set up (running Mac OS X 10.2.5 CLIENT) and we've >been having problems when it runs as an NFS server to a couple of Linux >Redhat 7.3 boxes and an IRIX box. > >(1) Locking issues where the client (linux and IRIX) computers lock up >and are unable to write to NFS - this happens for about 10 seconds >several times a day. Unfortunately, this is particularly annoying >because the Linux users' home directories reside on the Mac OS X box. > >(2) The second one can be just as annoying. Whenever we need to >restart the Mac OS X box, the Linux boxes will never remount. In fact, >I also have an IRIX box that is also mounting this machine, and it too >has the same problem. The client computers must restart as well in >order to remount the server. Weird considering we are also running a >linux cluster where several linux boxes mount into a single linux boxes >for $HOME and I can restart this Linux server machine all I want. I've seen a similar problem that may be related. The problem we're having is that the Linux server (Caldera eDesktop 2.4 kernel 2.2.14) has multiple IP aliases on the NIC and responds to NFS UDP requests on an interface other than the primary (e.g. it may respond from eth0:3 instead of eth0). The OS X boxes don't associate the NFS replies with their requests since the reply is coming from the wrong IP address. So far I haven't figured out why the Linux system is responding on the wrong interface. Routing problems have been suggested, but looking at things like ``netstat -rn'' output doesn't uncover anything obvious. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``We maintain that the very foundation of our way of life is what we call free enterprise,'' said Cash McCall, ``but when one of our citizens show enough free enterprise to pile up a little of that profit, we do our best to make him feel that he ought to be ashamed of himself.'' -- Cameron Hawley From janos.lobb at yale.edu Wed Apr 30 10:57:45 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: file:\\server\volume\path\file naming convention problem in web pages and OSX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D65F0B4-7B34-11D7-AB47-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> On Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003, at 12:26 America/New_York, Ross Bogue wrote: > At 12:08 PM -0400 4/30/03, J?nos L?bb wrote: >> >> At my institution some of the financial reports are Brio Query >> reports and on a PC they are downloaded to the local machine via a >> call like: >> >>> file:\\yupsdbxy\rptlibrary$\BUG\QRYdata\BUG303 Interfund >>> transfers.BQY > > > 1) A "file://" URL refers to a file on the local machine. Is the file > on the local machine? Of course it is not. It is on the server, UNC named "yupsdbxy" volume "rptlibrary$". > > 2) The backslash '\' is non-standard. What happens if you replace the > backslashes with forward slashes, and the blank spaces with %20? Then the the browser complains that it is not finding the server, which might be correct because "yupsdbxy" is the UNC name and not the DNS name of the machine. I know neither the IP address, nor the DNS name and I am probably not on the list of "need to know". The interesting thing is that I can mount the \\yupsdbxy\rptlibrary$ volume on my NT machine and drill down to the .bqy file, but doing the same thing on OSX with smb://yupsdbxy/rptlibrary$ does NOT work. It gives me a -36 error. J?nos > > > > > -- > Dr. Ross Bogue > Physics Department > Illinois State University > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin > > ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From janos.lobb at yale.edu Wed Apr 30 11:23:00 2003 From: janos.lobb at yale.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_L=F6bb?=) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: ping -a servername ? Message-ID: <693D0EA4-7B38-11D7-AB47-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> On an NT machine I can get the IP address of an UNC named server using ping -a servername probably due to the WINS resolution. If I try the same in OSX it fails / -a is not an option/. What is the correct command in OSX to lookup the ip address of a UNC named server ? Thanks ahead, J?nos ---------------------------------------------- Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a corpse. (S. Lem: His Master Voice) From schreian at bc.edu Wed Apr 30 11:56:01 2003 From: schreian at bc.edu (Tony Schreiner) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: ping -a servername ? In-Reply-To: <693D0EA4-7B38-11D7-AB47-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> Message-ID: <2CB69B0B-7B3C-11D7-AA45-000A95686418@bc.edu> nmblookup -U wins-server-name -T -R netbios-name will returrn the DNS name equivalent of the Netbios name, or omit the -T for the IP address If you don't have a WINS server, I'm not sure what happens Tony On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 02:20 PM, J?nos L?bb wrote: > On an NT machine I can get the IP address of an UNC named server using > > ping -a servername > > probably due to the WINS resolution. If I try the same in OSX it > fails / -a is not an option/. What is the correct command in OSX to > lookup the ip address of a UNC named server ? > > Thanks ahead, > J?nos > ---------------------------------------------- > Trying to argue with a politician is like lifting up the head of a > corpse. > (S. Lem: His Master Voice) > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From rpeskin at rlpcon.com Wed Apr 30 14:44:04 2003 From: rpeskin at rlpcon.com (Richard L. Peskin) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: cleaning print spool Message-ID: How is the print spool cleaned under cups? That is, what config file controls how many jobs are kept in the cups print job history? /var/spool/cups has about a months worth of print job history, but I didn't find a specific reference to this job history in the cupsd.conf file. thanks, --dick peskin Richard L. Peskin, RLP Consulting, Londonderry, VT http://www.rlpcon.com http://www.caip.rutgers.edu/~peskin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 463 bytes Desc: not available Url : /mailman/archive/macosx-admin/attachments/20030430/2a406bdb/attachment.bin From rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu Wed Apr 30 14:46:01 2003 From: rbogue at phy.ilstu.edu (Ross Bogue) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: file:\\server\volume\path\file naming convention problem in web pages and OSX In-Reply-To: <3D65F0B4-7B34-11D7-AB47-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> References: <3D65F0B4-7B34-11D7-AB47-000A27DD8970@janos.mail.yale.edu> Message-ID: At 1:50 PM -0400 4/30/03, J?nos L?bb wrote: > >Then the the browser complains that it is not finding the server, >which might be correct because "yupsdbxy" is the UNC name and not >the DNS name of the machine. I know neither the IP address, nor >the DNS name and I am probably not on the list of "need to know". You may be out of luck. The admins at UNC may have built a system of NT network drives that can only possibly work with Windows clients. But you still have a chance. Ignore the "file:\\...." syntax. That will never work on anything but a Windows machine, and even then only one that is already set up as a member of their NT domain. Neither OSX, nor Linux, nor Unix, nor anything else will even recognize the backslash as a separator. >The interesting thing is that I can mount the \\yupsdbxy\rptlibrary$ >volume on my NT machine and drill down to the .bqy file, but doing >the same thing on OSX with smb://yupsdbxy/rptlibrary$ does NOT work. >It gives me a -36 error. I still think your best hope is to use the Go menu -> Connect to Server, enter the string "smb://yupsdbxy", where "yupsdbxy" is the correct DNS name (NOT a NT domain name - this constitutes a "need to know"), and drill down from there. Once you get that working, you can think about automating it. Ross -- Dr. Ross Bogue Physics Department Illinois State University From mike at pinataperspective.com Wed Apr 30 15:31:01 2003 From: mike at pinataperspective.com (Mike Friedman) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EB04E76.3000108@pinataperspective.com> And you can usual tell the printer what the "awake" interval is....by default it's 20-30 minutes or so. Todd R. Warfel wrote: > You can leave it on and it goes to sleep. It doesn't stay "on" in the > traditional manner. When you want to print to it, you print and it > simply wakes up, prints, stays awake for 20-30 minutes incase you want > to print again, then goes back to sleep. > > On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 10:25 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote: > >> Ugh. A machine that stays on all the time is not what I want. I am a >> very low-volume user, I just want very good results *when* I print. >> > Cheers! > > Todd R. Warfel > > _//message first [method second] > -=========================- > User Experience Consultant > message first > [P] (607) 339-9640 > [E] twarfel@messagefirst.com > [w] http://messagefirst.com > -=========================- > > In theory, theory and practice are the same, > but in practice, they're not. > > _______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > MacOSX-admin@omnigroup.com > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin From dreamless at attbi.com Wed Apr 30 16:04:01 2003 From: dreamless at attbi.com (Nick Zitzmann) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Filedescriptors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <02DBC38D-7B60-11D7-BD67-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 06:42 AM, Morten R?nseth wrote: > I have a 10.2.4 box that we use for http serving. After a couple of > weeks > continuous running, apache will no longer server images and when we > log on > using ssh the server reports that it is running out of filedescriptors. > > Is this something to do with OSX? Try using sysctl to increase the amount of files that can be open at one time. The default is 12,288 but it can probably be set much higher. So "sudo sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=65535" might help... I find it strange, though, that your server ran out of file descriptors over time. Try running lsof to find out which process has been hogging all those descriptors... Nick Zitzmann AIM/iChat: dragonsdontsleep Check out my software page: http://dreamless.home.attbi.com/ "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." - Metal Gear Solid 2 From charlesd at newsguy.com Wed Apr 30 16:46:03 2003 From: charlesd at newsguy.com (Charles Dyer) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: <5C198DE8-7B0D-11D7-B10D-003065D62A38@mk27.com> References: <5C198DE8-7B0D-11D7-B10D-003065D62A38@mk27.com> Message-ID: At 09:12 -0400 30/04/2003, Todd R. Warfel wrote: >Not the case anymore. Cleaning does use quite a bit of ink, but not >as much as you're stating below. It's pretty minimal now. We've >found that a box of ink lasts us several months at 5000-6000 pagers >per month. Good. Then the last reason to avoid Teks is gone. -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Stability is irrelevant. Where _you_ want to go to today is irrelevant. We will add your currency to our own. Bend over right now. Resistance is futile. From charlesd at newsguy.com Wed Apr 30 17:01:18 2003 From: charlesd at newsguy.com (Charles Dyer) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 08:45 -0500 30/04/2003, Ross Bogue wrote: >At 8:07 AM -0400 4/30/03, John C. Welch wrote: >> >>I'll second this. The Xerox Phaser 1235DX I use is a thing of joy to use, >>maintain, and administrate. > > > >I had a Tek Phaser 350. Yes, color and network support were good. >But after about 1 year, the was> broke. Tek/Xerox wouldn't sell parts to the local shop, so it >had to go back to the factory. Total cost of repair: over $600 and >several months hassle. > >One year later, the newly-replaced fuser broke again. Another big >repair bill. > >I got rid of it a couple months ago. Guess which part was broken again? > >Not to mention that the color crayons cost $30 each and didn't last >very long at all. Hmmm... that's interesting. One Teks at a place I used to work at broke in much the same way, once, but that was after years of work, and once fixed it was still working last I saw. The Teks here seem to stand up to considerable abuse without complaint. The main problem is the 'thou shalt not turn it off' edict. They're certainly nowhere near as temperamental as the QMS monochrome lasers. -- We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimilated. Stability is irrelevant. Where _you_ want to go to today is irrelevant. We will add your currency to our own. Bend over right now. Resistance is futile. From njriley at uiuc.edu Wed Apr 30 17:06:00 2003 From: njriley at uiuc.edu (Nicholas Riley) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Which color laser printers (not too expensive) are compatible with Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030501000556.GA3904030@uiuc.edu> On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 06:49:22PM -0500, Charles Dyer wrote: > Hmmm... that's interesting. One Teks at a place I used to work at > broke in much the same way, once, but that was after years of work, > and once fixed it was still working last I saw. The Teks here seem to > stand up to considerable abuse without complaint. The main problem is > the 'thou shalt not turn it off' edict. They're certainly nowhere > near as temperamental as the QMS monochrome lasers. Ugh. Worst printers ever. Our department had many of them; those that weren't constant broken down would just take your print jobs and drop them randomly. We've still got one QMS color laser which I tried to get working today - unfortunately we've forgotten the password which you need to tell it that it can start printing after you replace the cleaning roller, and nothing, nowhere, does it say what to do about this. -- =Nicholas Riley | Pablo Research Group, Department of Computer Science and Medical Scholars Program, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign From list-omnigroup at fsck.net Wed Apr 30 21:30:01 2003 From: list-omnigroup at fsck.net (Eugene Lee) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:32:42 2005 Subject: Spoofing and apple calling home . . . In-Reply-To: <092DAE88-7B04-11D7-A0CD-000393764C26@connected.ch> References: <61BD8E8B-7AEF-11D7-AE1C-0050E410B21A@attbi.com> <092DAE88-7B04-11D7-A0CD-000393764C26@connected.ch> Message-ID: <20030501042936.GH2765@localhost> On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 02:05:29PM +0200, Johannes Vetsch wrote: : : apple.com/euro could also be the the timeserver (also set by default to : call when connected to the internet) "apple.com/euro" is neither a valid FQDN nor a valid IP address. -- Eugene Lee "ya hya chouhada"