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No worries, I would rather have good running software than not.  I can’t wait for the native iPad release.  Take a break for the 4th!

Screenshots and some price ballpark would definitely go a long way in terms of keeping the natives from being too restless.

Take your time, I’m on vacation!  (vacation ends July 8th)

Ditto @Greg - Plz don’t make it that expensive - particularly for those tha town both iphone + desktop versions!

Sorry if this was already asked and answered. But as a OmniFocus desktop and iphone app owner, will I be paying extra for the ipad version? Sounding like its not a ipad/iphone app.

Those of you who say another 20$ is expensive, doesn’t OmniFocus make you profit when you successfully use it? Personally I dream of a day when iPad will be available in my country (I’m afraid not this year). OmniFocus will be the first app I’ll buy for it.

@kcase - As much as I want to have an OmniFocus app that makes use of the iPad screen real estate, I want an app that’s done right.  I appreciate the updates and know you’re working hard on giving us the quality app we’ve come to expect. 

BTW: $20 for an iPad version of OmniFocus would be a steal in my book.

Like others have said, take your time and make it awesome :)

And yes, screenshots would be awesome!

As a SDLC Project Manager with 17 years experience, including time with both M and A, that experience tells me that if you didn’t have a release candidate last week you were never going to make the 30th.

And if you don’t know what your regression testing is going to turn up by now, you are still weeks away from a meaningful release candidate little own a gold master.

This claim of “openness” appears a fiction, what with no sign of what the app is going to include for features (what, is nothing stable?), what it’s going to look like (not tied down the UI yet?) and what the pricing is going to be.

If you don’t have those three things nailed at this point, you are a good four weeks off release, in my estimations.

Heaven help you if Things manages to get cloud syncing working, because that about your only differentiating feature at this point. Ditto, if you are not VERY careful with your price point. You might want to seriously consider rewarding current users of the Mac and iPhone versions for they’re loyalty and fast dwindling patience.

So now, how about a real update rather than patronising everyone with meaningless platitudes.

Yeah I’m sure that Things will support non-LAN sync any minute now. Those idiots promised that one feature over two years ago lol. I think I can wait a week for OmniFocus.

Things he says. Rofl.

Good apps are worth the wait! So what if we have to wait a few more days or weeks…omnifocus still is far superior to Things and will continue to get better. A couple UI screenshots would be great though…

At least your straight about it (rare in this day and age)

this is a very important app for many..

Take how ever long it takes to dial in a solid app for us…

I agree.. Screen shots and price point at least..

d{~_~}b ...

The only thing that Things has over OmniFocus is promised features that are never delivered. OTA synching. Recurring tasks. Notifications. All still missing after more than a year and a half.

Disclaimer: I don’t have an iPad so any delay to OmniFocus for it doesn’t affect me. However, I do own an iPhone and Things has been nothing short of a major, major disappointment since I bought it (on the basis of oft broken promises from Cultured Code). It was mediocre and feature light when I got it and even after more than 10 updates since it is still mediocre and feature light.

As long as OmniGroup ship OmniFocus for iPad in the next month, they’ll still be putting CC to shame, in spite of any delay.

‘Soul crushing’?? Hello?!? This is a slightly delayed software release, not a natural disaster! Sheesh, some of you guys must be so darn efficient with your GTD that you’ve become completely intolerant of others.

OmniGroup, thanks for the great products. Spend some time with your families (Working past midnight ain’t healthy). Focus your efforts on making the app as great as you can. The same people who complain about the release date will be the first to whine when their pet feature is not included. 

As Springsteen says, “the release date is one day, the album is forever.”

This is one of the product I really looking forward to have (In other words, this will be *the* killer app for iPad). Can’t wait, but waiting for just a few weeks or a few months is like nothing.

Happy hacking.

Looking forward to the final release. Don’t sweat all the whinners here. Set the price based on real value. I would gladly pay $25-30 for the iPad version. Anyone that is expecting lower clearly is not using the product to make themselves more productive :).

Jeesh, guys, you’re completely missing the point: the “sweet” solution that Cultured Code is working on is not a pedestrian cloud syncing… They’re working on telepathic transfer of information. They’re *really* close now…

I love my iPad and I’m impatiently waiting for the day I’ll be able to fully use it as an almost-complete laptop replacement. OF iPad will certainly play a part. OS 4 will help a great deal, too. Apple’s had great success in creating a need, obviously, but come on, how long have you been able to live without an iPad? Without OF on an iPad? I’d be very willing to buy the “this postponement is a bad omen” if it were about any developer BUT Omni…
Complaint-wise, I’m personally tremendously unhappy that I’m still unable to find an app that doesn’t just let me edit and format code on the iPad but actually compile and run multiple languages on the platform… (Actually read stuff like that on iTunes reviews of for(i))
Also, I am absolutely appalled to find out that Wolfram has not even *started* to look at having a full iPad version of Mathematica… That’s frankly disgusting.

Finally, I fully expect Omni to price OF iPad at $0.99, because I deserve it.

Now that I think about it, it’s clear to me that Omni should partner with Wolfram and CulturedCode to offer a full version of OF on iPad, that would run the Mathematica engine in the “Notes” sections of tasks *and* telepathically sync to its iPhone and desktop companion apps. For $.99.

[Very puerile, I know, but I had tremendous fun writing this. Apologies for subjecting others to it. Oh, and thank you Omni for being so open about the difficulties you might be encountering, and so thorough about both your development and user satisfaction.]

Cannot understand how it took 2 months to deliver 2 Omni apps for the iPad without any previous iOS code, and it is already 3 months and OF is not ready, considering there was a lot of code to be reused and more experience on developing for the specific platform.

So something just doesn’t add up.
Maybe the Omni guys can tell us.

Expected price is in the range of 20-30$.
At least for a week to compensate for the long wait and let the majority of iPhone and Mac app owners to get it in the right price spot.
The a 30-40$ tag would be fair, always waiting to see the app itself ofcourse.

And FYI, OF is also missing capabilities that Things have, as: Tags, Priorities, better UI that helps in the overall productivity; so lets not only see ‘things’ one sided.

Love the products, hate miscommunication, waiting impatiently.

Btw, all you things fans?  If it’s so good, what are you doing on the omni blog?  Get outa here!

The delay is ok. Like all here I am checking in every day!  For those who want the project pushed quickly, just look at some other apps out there that have been delivered without being ready.

As for me, I’m putting on extra socks to be blown off by this new product. Whenever it arrives

All these intolerant whining people - amazing. There’s a reason Apple doesn’t give away firm release dates (and no even product announcements) until they are certain of them - and even then, Apple, with all its huge resources managed to get the iPad and iPhone availability dates wrong (white iPhones anyone?)

I’ve been waiting for Diablo 3 for AGES, but I’m not getting strung out over it. On their FAQ it says, as it has for at least 10 months I reckon:

“When will Diablo III be released?
It’s too early to estimate Diablo III’s release date. As with all Blizzard Entertainment games, our goal is to create a game that is as fun, balanced, and polished as possible. We intend to take as much time developing Diablo III as is necessary to ensure the game meets our own high expectations and those of our players. ... We’ll have more details to share about countries, languages, and specific dates as we get closer to release.”

How much will Diablo III cost? Where can I buy this game?
Pricing and availability for Diablo III will be determined and announced closer to the release of the game.

“Soul crushing?” - you really need to get out more!

So, I’d rather have it sooner than later of course, but much more than that, I’d rather have it done right that released early.

Go and get outside, meet some friends and get away from clicking ‘Refresh’ on OMNI’s blog page :-)

Echoing what the others have said - take your time. It will only make the app even more awesome! :)

Then, when you finally submit it to the app store, take the weekend off. Relax. :o)

@Robert

You manage to draw an awful lot of absurdly negative conclusions from the three points of information that you don’t possess.

Well two points—-since the blog post you are responding to constitutes a meaningful update.  Your scary fantasies about what it “really means” don’t change the fact that a meaningful update was given.

Continue your good work. It seems that you put all your energy! I prefer to have a good app. « Allez et bonne chance dans les derniers miles ».

Jean Martel, Quebec

And if you don’t know what your regression testing is going to turn up by now, you are still weeks away from a meaningful release candidate little own a gold master.

It kind of undermines your pompous posturing when you demonstrate a lack of understanding of the words you use. “little own” != “let alone.” I would think an SDLC Project Manager with 17 years experience, including time with both M and A would have better command of his idiomatic phrases.

Sorry for the ad hominem attack, but it felt justified.

I’m as anxious to see this as the next OmniFocus-obsessive.  :) But I can take this moment to support the development team (and by extension all of us).

Sustainable Pace matters, guys. 

Over-stress thought work and you get bad thought.  In my development teams, and those I’ve trained, efforts beyond about 6-8 heavy coding hours a day produced a higher bug rate.  Definitely a diminishing returns issue.

Good luck!  Make it right.  Make it “soon” will come naturally.

—p

I don’t own a Mac - I just bought an iPad and it was my first Apple purchase ever. But I love it and I love Graffle. I thnk that Focus is going to rock and I am happy to wait until you get it right. Your previous post about the date delay sold me. You guys are clearly passionate about what you do and I’m happy to support a company like that.

@Ken - thanks for the update. Much apprciated

To all of you comparing Things and OmniFocus development and features:

One important feature that OmniFocus has that Things completely lacks is the “openness” Ken mentioned, and a company culture that respects and appreciates customers. The company put themselves out on the line last week, giving a date that they weren’t sure they’d be able to meet. Now the president himself is back in a timely manner to apologize that they couldn’t in fact meet it. He even put his email address in the post, inviting flames!

Over in Cultured Code land, we would have heard nothing on the mentioned date, nothing for three weeks afterwards, and then after another two or three weeks of “banging on the door” to get some news, a three-sentence response in the forum from one of the support guys with a pointer to their standard Support Request form. Then displays of impatient arrogance when it’s pointed out that they could easily have tweeted the response they just gave, or even *gasp* done a quick blog post.

These two companies can’t even be compared. Omni is better by far. I’m still up in the air about buying an iPad, so maybe I should mind my own business and find another thread to post in. I just wanted to give a thumb-up to Ken and Omni for the attitude they display in this post and their other dealings with customers.

Martin Campbell wrote:  Btw, all you things fans?  If it’s so good, what are you doing on the omni blog?  Get outa here!
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We came to snicker at you. :)

Ken, glad it has been cloudy in Seattle this summer.  Keep up the good work, and please, when the sun shines, take a few minutes to enjoy the day of summer we will have this year!

Thanks for the update. I totally understand the need for you to get it right and I am eager to see what you guys come up with. For now, I’m going to curl up on the floor in the fetal position and play with OmniGraffle for iPad to comfort myself until the RSS feed shows another OF update.

Ken & Omni Code Monkeys,

First of all, as a software developer (independent and part of a software company) I can understand the stress you’re under to complete a quality project while users are pounding on the door for said software.  I’m a fan of OF and look forward to the release for iPad.  I’ve been running the iPhone version since I got my iPad and even with the interface hack, it is simply not enough.

I have been running To Do in parallel with OF because they have a good iPad interface and I’m waiting to see your product before making a final decision.  I’ll admit I am also waiting for the price.  I’ve already paid $100 for the Mac and iPhone versions and I will NOT pay $50 for the privilege of using the program on another auxiliary system.

Good luck for the release and please pick a reasonable price.

// ScottA

Thanks for weighing in, Ken.  It was nice to hear a teeny bit more about what’s holding up the release.  I wasn’t surprised by your comment, though.  What distinguishes Omni products is its truly human-centered design.  That means you can’t just come up with a list of features and then generate the code to create them.  Real people have to interact with the product.  That’s how defects AND dramatic improvements are discovered (including rethinking features).  Too many software companies (and some whiners on this thread) don’t understand that use and design should not be two completely different activities.  Your comment shows that Omni really gets that.  But then, so do your products. 

Thanks for making incredible software.

We can wait.

Robert sez “So now, how about a real update rather than patronising everyone with meaningless platitudes.

Ouch! I hate meaningless platitudes. Maybe Omnigroup should hire this Robert guy to “crack the whip” and get things moving.

I realized something the other day. As much as I am looking forward to the iPad version of omnifocus it turns out I already have it. Its the iPhone version and it still works just fine and integrates with my iPhone and desktop versions. The real revelation is that I realized that my “waiting for the iPad version” had become a a lame excuse to not do things because I had somehow convinced myself I was being deprived of something. The real fact is that I’m not sure how the iPad version of this product will get integrated into my daily workflow. While I love my iPad, most of my work gets done on my corporate provided laptop (not a mac) where I have no access to omnifocus. I’m sure I’ll buy a copy of the new iPad version (assuming the price is reasonable), but what I’d really rather see is something more on the lines of Evernote which is accessible as either a disconnected client or synchs up when you have internet access. I use the client on my iPhone/iPad and the web based version on my work computer.

Give me a break…

They’ll reward their loyal customers by selling them a quality product and providing their usual excellent support.  Isn’t that sufficient?

So, I have no interest in pointing fingers or making demands but I am very curious about when I might be able to buy the iPad version of OmniFocus. Since the official answer is “Real Soon Now” I get to reload the Omni Mouth Blog every day waiting to find out if it has been released.

So what does “soon, but not tomorrow” mean now that all your estimates have gone past? My concern is that without a deadline you can succumb to your perfectionism and deliver something really awesomely perfect… sometime in 2018.

I know how hard it is to estimate how long it will take to actually finish something. In my own work, I am frequently surprised to find a task I estimated at six hours coming in at either fifteen minutes or sixty hours. I’m also familiar with the final details being the hardest to nail. The old guideline “when you’re 90% finished, you’re halfway done” tends to be optimistic.

Still, I’d love to see a revised estimate to set our expectations. What does “soon, but not tomorrow” mean? The day after tomorrow? Two weeks? Two months? I don’t think it’s too much to ask that we get some answer as to whether it’s days, weeks or months that we’ll be waiting.

More estimates are hard: there are a couple of “known unknowns” in the process, and we don’t want to be wrong about deadlines more than once. (Once we submit the app for review, there’s some delay we can’t control or predict, for example.)

We’ll definitely post more information here as we have it, but folks can also sign up for our news mailing list if they want to be automatically informed of updates, rather than needing to check for them manually…

I know it’s frustrating, and we’re really sorry. We’re working hard to get it to you as soon as possible.

Brian,

Sorry to be snide, but I guess this means you aren’t willing to rule out the possibility that the release date could be months or even years off.

It’s not so much a matter of frustration as it a matter of lost confidence.

@georg:

I went that route and purchased Things for iPad and my Mac, and (not to get into the ongoing debate…) I did like it, nice UI. But, it just didn’t have the functionality that OF does. So, sadly, I’m out some money and (happily) back to using OF. I still prefer the Mac UI in OF over any of them.

I’ve actually purchased at least a half dozen different task apps for the iPad while waiting for the OF iPad version. Haven’t been happy with any of them. Pocket Informant has come out with theirs that is in the Apple approval process right now. If that makes it out before OF iPad version I will purchase that one, it looks very promising. It may be the one that makes me switch, maybe not.

Either way, I wish Omni would give us a more solid estimate of when we can (hope) to expect a release, it would sure save me a bundle. I need to do something about this task management app compulsion….

Since I’ve been waiting with many others for the iPad version of OmniFocus and I’m beginning to see friends I know moving to Things in frustration, I’d like to ask:

1. How close are we?

2. If it’s going to be some time, how about a deal where yup can purchase now, but use the iPod version until the iPad version is ready?

We’re all getting desperate for our favorite tool

I took the time to reread the comment .. As a long time software developer working in every part of software development from conception to project management ... I know that the one thing you can count on is delays. As someone already mentioned and like the old saw says, ‘you’re only half-way there at 90% completion”. We laugh but it’s true.

Projecting dates is good. .. But hh

How much time is spent waiting? Not much because most people do something else until it’s our turn. It is the something else you need to worry about. Disney figured it out. The number one compliant was not knowing how long it was going to take to get to the ride. So they started posting the wait time and they adopted a policy of over estimating the time. They also update every twenty minutes. As far as customer loyalty they rank among the best. The lesson ..... Communication is the key to managing expectations and managing expectations properly is the key to your customers heart and their loyalty. A consistent communication plan to your customers would go a long way, something we can count on instead of nothingness or wondering. Please communicate and be consistent.

I just started looking at alternatives to OmniFocus. It took years for me to find this app for my laptop/desktop, and was elated when the iPhone version came out. It would be a sad stare of affairs if so eone else was able to copy or better OF, making a switch palatable.

Ken, please start tweeting something daily, or at least more frequently, to keep us posted. I do not want to jump ship, if the iPad version is imminent. But it would be helpful to know something more than NOT TOMORROW.

I am very happy with OF on the many devices I have and am responsible for. I have quite a bit of money invested in the success of OF, but can not move forward with the next bit of hardware purchases, until the iPad app is out.

If omni is not going to release this soon, I’ll just move on to the other options out there and ask for a refund on my iPhone app.

i’ve now been waiting for omnifocus for the iPad since the iPad was announced and during that timeframe, I’ll admit the push backs have been a bit…annoying.  However, that being said, I’m not worse off regarding than I was before.  Its not like OG took this product away after giving it to me.  Yes, there are other solutions but 1.  they will take time to learn 2.  It will cost me a boatload 3.  I LOVE OMNIFOCUS.  Part of the reason I love their software is the simple fact that the software works wonderfully and if I have to be patient then so beat, I’ll be patient.  I will admit that in reading over the comments, for some reason, I actually started to get pissed at OG and that was completely unjustified.  If you don’t like the practices of OG, show them with your money.  If you do, show them with your money. 

All that being said, a lot of us have been waiting every day for this release and I think it would be amazing if OG rewarded us by having a 2 day sale to start off with that sold the product at a VERY good price to reward us loyal customers who chose to wait daily on them.  I can understand this is $35 product for someone who has never bought a product but after $80 for the mac version and $20 for the iPhone version I’m going to be ticked to add on another $35 after waiting for a while.  $10 for the first two days would make me more than happy however all the being said a Universal app would be even better!

Attention whiners, OmniFocus for iPhone works on the iPad just fine. Get your fix now and look forward to a better version when it’s finished. Why would you want a product that isn’t just right?

Jeeze. Some people would complain if you hung ‘em with a brand new rope.

Great, Ken, thank you :)

I got some really great emails from Ken and the folks at Omni, so out of consideration for that personal touch, and to the hard work I am sure they are doing on OF-iP I have let this conversation role on without me dipping my (loud, pompous) oar in.

I now have some (serious) money riding on my original estimate of “not less than 4 weeks” from the 30th so I am still watching with a great deal of interest (London has rich people who like to try to pull my tail, or would do if they had yet managed it).

I am not revising that estimate - 28 July +/- 3 days (e.g. 10%)

Reasons? Just concluded first beta, 100’s of comments, feature set still not tied down - I feel my money is pretty safe. But hey, I would be (very) happy to proven wrong and lose these bets - but then, for me, getting it earlier represents winning anyhow.

What I will say, and I am not the first to say it, is that the iPhone product does work on iPads and apart from filling a little silly blown up to 2x, does the job. So there are ways to keep working, keep GTDing and keep getting the job done.

At least the job of the iPhone version - which is I guess why I am interested in the iPad version. I am expecting it to do more.

My iPad set me free of deskspace even more than I expected it to. I am hoping OF for iPad will continue that trend. The Parks here in London are fantastic in summer and a great place to do business when you are really unwired.

The other things I will say are:

Given the quality of these products and the loyalty of the user base, its a real shame to see how much review time and marketing energy is going to some of the competing products.

@Bill. I think Jayson has made a really point with his analogy with Disney and their queue strategy. And you hit the nail on the head with it being (in addition to expectation control) a way of giving people time in shops and restaurants.

In this case however, as Chris points out, by waiting with no knowledge of how long the wait will be, there is a tendency to expect it tomorrow - which keeps us waiting, and being disappointed. There are no restaurants to go snack in, at least none that benefit Omni.

And Apple get away with it because they have Jobs and Ives. They didn’t get away with it under Sculley. Nor do most companies manage it. Without the Jobsian Reality Distortion Field Generator in the basement at Yerba Buena to bend peoples minds, communications seems like the lesser of a lot of evils.

@Chris. I agree with you. It’s the lack of information that feels like sand in my pants, not the wait per-say. 2-3 tweets a week and some screen shots would (I suspect) go a long way to calming people down. As would pricing.

The storm of complaint on here is not, I think, about whats released or when, its about expectation management.

@Bob. Thanks, I think. I am up for it. Even if it means a stint in Seattle. I have rarely missed a deadline, even when it was set by fiat 12 months out. As AndyB points out, I am harsh, but my teams do tend to follow me since they know what to expect, and I give back in equal amounts. And yes, I am full of myself, but it comes with the territory.

@Ken. Last but certainly not least, thanks for the update. You have a good product set, and clearly a happy dedicated band of developers. I hope it all comes together for you, and you get to down tools for some summer enjoyment (Dave Robeson, you are very naughty;-).

I will say that I like Jasons suggestion of an early adopters sale, it would certainly reward those of us watching for signs of progress.

Whoa, I came into this comments section looking for dev comments and I must say, am disappointed at some users’ attitudes. Jumping ship because you don’t have a product you’ve never even used, for a device you didn’t even have 3 months ago? How you can justify dropping more cash on another system, with the inevitable unproductive learning curve, because you don’t have an app that you’ve never even seen (much less become dependent on), is so extraordinarily illogical as to be mind boggling.

If you think that somehow not having OF for iPad is an affront to your ability to get things done, you sir, are addicted to productivity pr0n.

http://www.43folders.com/2005/05/18/because-buying-new-running-shoes-is-more-fun-than-actually-running

To the OF guys: carry on. If anything, the (misplaced) vitriol should be encouraging because it means we are all crazy for your products and miss them when we don’t have them. But one thing I would add is that, whatever your development process (and however you deal with inevitable delays), communication with us OF crazed users goes a long way. Or, even better, tell us how we can help. I’m willing to bet that 99% of us are reasonable, understanding people, and if you make an attempt to honestly communicate with us what is going on, we’ll understand and will stick with you. But without communication, our minds are left to wander, and all we can do is form an opinion about what we think is happening, whether or not that is really the case.

I take offense at being called a whiner, concerning wanting info on the iPad version of OF.

Ken, thanks for the update, which tells me or at least indicates that you are actually getting very close. Unfortunately, I was not a Beta tester, which would have been fun. That being said, sorting through the feedback, only wait for the release, if an update would drastically change to function or operation of the app. Cosmetic or little tweaks can be worked out in an update or two.

My only request, as it has been for months, is the ability to drag and drop tasks (children), from one project (parent) to another, as you can do on the Mac version. I paid $80 for that one. As opposed to the way that you can only input large amounts of tasks on the iPhone, then have to go and sort out on the Mac. BTW, I have 4 iPhones using OF, @ $20 each equals $80. Charge what the market will bare, which is somewhere in between. I’d pay up to $80, but only if it would act more like the Mac version. If the features are more like the iPhone, price it closer to the $20.

I do not want a discount, although it would be nice. The 30 day refund makes the price worth it. If the iPad app blows, then I’ll ask for a refund and go get 4 iPod touches instead of 4 more iPads. One way or another I’ll pay, but it is a question of how much.

I may have missed the feedback triage - these are the things I would most like to see in the iPad version (as a desktop and iPhone OmniFocus user):

1 - An ‘Undo” function. I can’t count the number of times I’ve touched the screen to go back to a group “heading” and accidentally deleted my recurring task group - grrr… I seem to recall that I can shake my iPhone ro undo, but for me the iPad is too large to do this with ease (even if that feature is available.) 

2 - The ability to move tasks between projects.
In setting up projects (I design and deliver training courses), I frequently set up “prepare for course”, “deliver course” and “after course” groupings that (for a variety of reasons), I separate into separate “projects” and then regroup.
This feature would also be really useful as I refine my daily routines.

3 - The ability to set up checklists of recurring tasks - groups of tasks that I perform every day, week, month, or for every course. This would let me check the consistency of my execution.

Thanks for the work you’ve done on all your products. Apple seems to have been throwing you with a lot of stuff to address in a short amount of time - iPad, iPhone 4 / iOS 4 release.  And it seems like you have quite a small development team and a lot of loyal customers who really depend on what you’ve developed. Congratulations and please help care for the long-term well-being of your team as you work to continue to satisfy your customers.

I think we should not discuss this to death. We more or less agreed that communication was the issue and from what i see Ken wants to improve on that part which solves the problem for me. The product will come when they think its reasonable to ship it and whether or not I or anybody else decides to wait that long is a question of not much, if any, value to this “thread”.

Again, thank you for the update, Ken. Im looking forward to see the result of your extra miles. :)

@Robert: Excellent proposal. I will volunteer and say:

“Just like Hitler set a rapid and definite end to all sane argumentation within the Germany of his time, you, dear Robert, set a very solid end to the circle-argumentation in this thread!”

I hope to have met your expectations and thank you for the valuable idea :)

I couldn’t agree more with Steve.

Just gave OmniGroup a nice shout out on the Übermind blog and the repost on my personal blog – I cannot recall ever waiting in such anticipation for an app. Congrats for creating such an awesome product!

Today is tomorrow Ken, and the status is?

@Ken Case
07.12.10 6:06 PM

I’ll post another status update tomorrow.

Thanks… :-)

@Ken. Thank you so much for that update. Drag and drop re-ordering? Yep, I’d wait for that. That feels like worth calmly waiting for, although a screen shot or two, pricing and perhaps a new blog post (so we can draw a veil over this one) would be lovely.

@Chris. Apparently Godwin’s Law has no power here. Thanks for trying, although I am still trying to figure out if you spun that into a less than subtle dig.

@Victoria. For just one moment I read your name as Beckham (sorry, no offence, you look lovely) and I thought, “God Lord. EVERYONE is watching this blog post”. Perhaps Becks and Posh will chime in shortly

Gads!! I’ve had myself the BEST chuckle today. So Ken says he will post something in the am (meaning today some time). Following are the posts “it’s the 14th- where’s the post” and “according to NY time it’s ____, where’s the post?” Oh my…talk about pressure! I had to laugh, especially since I feel a little “in tune” with those posts! Thanks so much Ken, for your patience…and your timely response! Really, I’m stll chuckling! A good way to start the day!

Correction: “It’s the 12th, where’s the post”; It’s the 13th, where’s the post”, etc. Can’t read well through the tears streaming from my eyes….from laughing. Love you guys!

Thank you for the updates and for your patience Ken!

My symptoms (rOFs) have dropped off dramatically in the past 48 hours, and I’m feeling much, much better.

Just imagine how incredible Outliner and Plan will be when they come out! I can’t wait to see how the interaction of OmniPlan will come into play on a touch device. Has potential to completely change the nature of interacting with a project, its tasks, and its resources…. Exciting stuff….

Ken, when can we expect to see the app in the iTunes Store?

@Ernie,

How have you had to alter your workflow because of this delay?  Have you also had to modify your workflow due to the fact that OmniOutliner hasn’t shipped for the iPad yet?  How could you have a workflow that relies on OF for iPad if you have never had OF for iPad?  If you have never had such a workflow, why would it need changing when the ship date is later than initially hoped?

Thanks for the update!

@Ken So OF for iPad has been finished and we are waiting for Apple now?

If you want to reward loyal users, make the app available for 50% the regular cost for the first 2-3 days.

I love you guys, ignore the haters and the whiners.

Great idea Chris! I’ve been using Things so I could stay productive but I’ve been anxiously waiting for OF. OF was my first GTD app on the mac and I’m looking forward to using it on the iPad when it’s available. I was disappointed that it wasn’t ready in June but I know we’ll have a better app because of it!

Keep moving forward Ken!

I really hope your developers have a huge pizza party when this is all done. Y’all are probably stressed like a cat on a ceiling fan.

When you go home and vent off to your wives and husbands about how rough it’s been the past few weeks, and how freaking annoying it’s been reading 140 some odd comments on a single blog post, and how you just don’t know if you can handle it any more… remember… your software does great things, and impacts the lives of many people who are also stressed and tired of working, and use tools like OmniFocus to make their jobs better.

And when we all hear of a potential new update to it, we get all excited because we know that an update means cool new things to explore, and play with, and try to implement in our messed up lives to give us some glimmer of hope that maybe, just maybe, we’ll make it through another week. Just like all of you working to help us with that.

We look forward to the technohigh we’ll all get for that first few weeks when the only words coming out of our mouths are, “oh man, I LOVE OmniFocus; my life is so much easier now.” It’ll wear off, but like any good drug, we’ll keep coming back for more.

:) Chins up, developers.

@Bill

You obviously misunderstood me.  I have a workflow that I’ve grown acostumed to with of and with desktop and iPhone applications. I can not use the tool on the iPad and thus I am having to use other applications on the iPad to achieve what I was achieving before on the iPhone. I am having to use Evernote instead of of.

News flash! Omnifocus GTD set to launch in July!,:-)

I’m surprised no one has just photoshopped a few fakes just to get us all speculating and guessing about the UI….

OG, what you should do, is grab a few screen shots, and deliberately blur out a few areas you don’t want us to see…. Just as a tease. We’re all mature enough to handle it, but it would satisfy a few who just want something to tell their moms about…..

Clint: Isn’t the goal of a well established Fortune 500 company to mitigate risk? To do things that make failure less likely even if they make the product perhaps a little worse?

OmniGroup produces higher quality software on a smaller budget than most large software companies. I don’t want to see them produce predictable mediocre software on a well established timeframe.

Different processes produce different products. I like what OmniGroup puts out.

Come on Ken, you can’t tell us there’s a doc and a video and then not show us!  That’s torture!  Ow Ow, I’m hurting here!!!

Yes, please tell us how to view the video!

Phil

How many times are you going to make me refresh this page..? :)

http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnifocus_for_ipad/

BZ

With the weekend being over and a brand new workingweek just starting, may I ask if there are any news about the status of your lovely product? Like others I would love to see the introductory video if that was possible but of course understand if it is not yet.

However, I have to reevaluate my own software plans so a rough timeline from your side would help a lot.

Thanks in advance :)

Chris

Hurrah on the progress!

When you have finished this ...

How about RTM (or ToodleDo) syncing so that I can quickly send tasks from my work PC to my master OmniFocus list.

Thanks for producing such great software.

rgds/alex

Ken, please, show us something!

I don’t mind the wait…I am sure they are working hard to get a superb product.  In the meantime it would be great if Ken would post a screencast or some screenshots.

Hooray!

My most eagerly awaited app, take all the time you need to get it right. We know it will rock :)

Great!

How long is the final round of testing likely to be

Ive actually got projects on hold at work so we can start with the preferred workflow / tools rather than change later

Arrghhhhhhh (sorry, just had to let it out)

Cheers
Vin

Great work Ken. I use all your products religiously. Will omnifocus users who paid for the iphone app to use on their ipad be given a discount on the price for the new app?

@ Concerned

I think you are missing the point. The major complaint has been lack of communications, not lack of speed. Oh sure, everyone is eager, but once Ken started giving a couple of updates a week, the complaints calmed right down and while people have been pushing for release the general tone has been one that agrees with yours - get it tested right.

So we are all in agreement, that a well tested product is worth waiting for. What other people have been asking for, and received, is better visibility on progress. You might not need or want it, but others do. It’s a funny old world, and different people want different things. It would be dull if we were all the same.

@ Ken

Thanks for the updates, they have been very much appreciated by me.

Given all the traffic and discussion I think it is pretty obvious these guys have the gift when it comes to designing solutions we want so if that took an extra 30 days BIG DEAL!!

Can hardly wait. Ken, you’re holding up our productivity getting new stuff to you that’s just going to makeyouhave to do more work…

I’m sure they’ll attach a fair and reasonable price to the app once it’s ready. OF for the iPad shouldn’t be considered an upgrade or priced as such since it’s a new app for a new platform. That said, it would be nice for OG to offer a bit of a discount for those loyal customers who have already spent a good deal of money with their company by purchasing both the desktop and the iphone versions. It doesn’t even have to be a huge discount and could be offered for a limited time. Just a little something to say thanks for supporting our software. I don’t want them to starve but I also would like for the price to be reasonable. Just my 2 cents.

Awesome! You and the OG team ROCK Ken! Thanks for the update!

Fantastic news, Ken… Congrats to your team :)

Cool… Now how about engaging the hype and getting some screen shots and video up… Go on, its the least you can do for us patient tribe of obsessives!

Great news Ken!!!

By the way, I think you were going to post the page with videos and Marketing Materials the day you submitted the app to apple store.

Are you posting that today?

Looking forward to.

Thanks,

Jim

Congrats to the group on getting this in—can’t wait!

@Jim—did you just try and use a Jedi mind trick to get Ken to post the videos?  Nice!

@Ken—these are not the droids you are looking for, but we would love to see some screenshots or video while we wait!

Awesome!!!

I’m with Joe on this issue, but for different reasons.

Ken, I hope you’re at home asleep, catching up on your reading, videogames, whatever, just so long as you’re not reading this thread or putting any energy into figuring out how to please the crowds who want a peek. It was a hard push getting iPOF out the door and right now there’s not much you can do for us but take a well-deserved rest.

Thank you for bringing your apps to the iPad. You are one of the most reliable vendors in the MAC space. I look forward to omnioutliner.

The ironic thing is that I cannot “get things done” because I too have been checking in every day… hour… 30 minutes… oh OK every 5 minutes. I really cannot wait to be put out of my misery.

Maybe I should consider putting checking for the release into Omnifocus…... :)

Hey I just had a crazy thought…. do you suppose that maybe OG has been keeping hush-hush about the pricing because they’ve released it as a universal app, allowing owners of the iPhone version to get the upgrade for free?

Or maybe, allowing the upgrade to the iPad version as an in-app purchase at a $20 discounted price? Any bets?

I wonder if they’ll offer me an update. I haven’t received my iMac yet(waiting for the update), so I’ve purchased both the iPad and iPhone version but not the Mac version :P
Looking very forward to getting this! Can’t wait!

:) still thinking 39.95 is going to be the price tag…....

Though I am anticipating OmniFocus for iPhone and iPad to be separate apps -– how could any product company say no to all those new sales?!?! –- I would love to see some disruption in the productivity software arena. Here’s one thought:

- launching universal binary of OmniFocus
- keep the iOS app price at $19.99
- publicly launch Omni Sync Server (free or $10.00-$20.00 per year)
- give Omni Sync Server users the ability to add project sharing functionality between multiple OmniFocus + Omni Sync Server users (additional $10.00-$20.00 per year)

As someone who manages a GTD-obsessed marketing team, this would be something I would gladly pay for.

That being said, I would gladly welcome OmniFocus for iPad (at $19.00-$39.99) to my Mac + iPhone workflow… Now if I could just have my OmniFocus automatically notify me when the iPad version is available I might actually be able to get some work done! :)

Blimey!!

where is it already Apple

Ive had more comfortable waits at the dentist than waiting to get my hands on this app

Bahh - much longer and i will build my workflow around things and projector

Gerry - you really are very restrained.

dude…. what a total waste of time! like seriously, look at 12:00 and 7:30…. a whole hour spent eating “lunch” and “dinner”????

Do you have any idea how many times you could “Check iTunes for OmniFocus iPad” during that time? Clearly you need it once it comes out, if for no other reason than to properly schedule your checks every 9 minutes like the rest of us do!

:)

Man.

This is ridiculous.

I’m totally dependent on an Ipad app that I’ve never even used before.

Talk about unrealistic expectations!

@Felix LOL I was thinking that… but refrained from saying anything :) Maybe they were all gifts?

@Paul totally agree! :) I’m already using it in my mind. I’m tapping the screen while the iPad is off, imagining what I’d see if it were filled with OmniFocus Purple. It’s not making me more productive yet though.

Crap! that took too long to write.. I’d better go check iTunes…

Just as clarification, I didn’t mean to put “impossible” in quotations, lest anyone thinks I’m misquoting them.

I currently own an older Mac, iPhone, and iPad, and yes, they were all gifts. As I said, I am strongly considering purchasing the software. However, the price does make me hesitate a bit as I currently don’t have a job, and while I have a little spending money, OmniFocus is not the only piece of software I’m looking into buying. Please don’t think that I feel entitled to a lower priced OmniFocus. I merely said that a launch sale would make me much more apt to invest in the software, but I may still decide that it is worth my money at full price.

@Stephanie

My guess is that you’ll want only Mac + iPad. One of the reasons I’m so anxious to get my hands on the iPad version is because I can’t stand using the iPhone version, whether on the iPhone or the iPad. Little screen, can’t see much, organizing anything takes far too many taps. I appreciate that OG has done an amazing job with what they had to work with, but the result IMO is frustrating and doesn’t help me GTD.

My fervent hope is that the iPad version will be much more like the desktop version (and maybe even better). Then I’ll never have to mess around with the teensy tiny iPhone version again.

If you go places without the iPad, I can see how that would change the decision.

Hello. My name is Greg (“Hi Greg”) and I am addicted to Omni Group product releases. I’m patiently waiting for Omnifocus for iPad and am realizing that my life has become unmanageable. I compulsively check the App Store, the Omni blog and Omni forums, but none of them satisfy the emptiness I feel inside. I’m so hopeful to be here in this group to finally get the help I need to overcome my addiction ... or at least have fellow addicts with whom I may bond.

@Gerry… Okay, that seems more reasonable… I was beginning to think you didn’t care during your downtime :)

@Greg… “Hi Greg”. We hope you can find fulfillment here. Most of us come here for reasons just like you. We understand the pain. We struggle too. But together, we can all overcome the emptiness that we feel. We’re glad you’re here. :)

Dagnammit

Give me my OmniFocus for iPad or the Puppy GETS IT! ! ! ! !

You have been warned…......

If 85% of all new apps get dealt with within 7 days then that leaves 15% of apps that do not get dealt with within these 7 days. From my limited knowledge about appstore workflow I would guess that the more complex apps need more time than the simple ones which only show a green screen or something. And I would also guess that omnifocus is a rather complex app, seeing how long it took to code it. Both information combined hints at OF needing a bit longer to pass the store than said green-screen app.

Done! Now I’ll just click “Get Mail” 100 times a day instead of Refresh.

@Ken… do you have a feedback article or area prepped and ready for once it does launch, so that us OmniGeeks won’t continue plastering this post with comments about how much we love the new OmniFocus when we get it?

Oh and please tell me that it’s under 20MB so that I can still grab it if I happen to be on 3G…

Me and my big mouth..

Yes. You would. Gobs more. In fact, I offer my firstborn to you right now JUST GIVE ME THE APP!

Oh. Sorry. Excuse me. I need to go check into a mental health clinic. I hope they have WiFi for my iPad so I can check iTunes…

oh, fantastic! :)

@ Ken you are a saint reading and responding to all threads.

Wow! It just gets better! Thanks, Ken!

@David: Is it that you truly despise to get things done, or is it that you despise GTD (R)?

Much ado has been made about the price.  Interesting conversation spanning from the uber-thrifty to the “I’ll pay anything and it’s sill worth it” crowd. 

I’m sure the good folks at Omni have thought hard about the price… and their products are certainly premium, so how do you price that in?  You can certainly squeeze the excess premium out of the stark raving fans on this board by charging $50, and they’ll come back for more… but then you run the risk of alienating potential adopters who are looking for a strong productivity app, but would run to Things instead of OF if there is a cavernous price gap.  Then Omni Group loses out on future devoted fans.  I’m interested to see where the price falls.

@Ken:  The 200% pricing markup you cited isn’t exactly foreign to you guys (though the maybe not that magnitude)  I seem to recall you came out with a $30 or so price tag on the original iphone OF, but backed off to $19.99 to promote adoption some time later.

I don’t pay more than 19.99 $ there are some great app GTD for iPAD now, for less price.

@Ken:  Quite right.  Apologies to you and the blog.  I just checked my purchase history in my iTunes account (had to get in the wayback machine) and I was incorrect - must have been thinking of another app.

Fortunately, there’s no web cam to show the Omni staffers enjoying a leisurely dinner in their cafeteria while the long-awaited email from Apple languishes unread :-)

I can’t really understand all that mourning about the high price, if it’s 20, 30 or 40 Dollars (Euros)! When my son buys a Nintendo game it’s about 30 Euros, Progrsms like Microsoft Outlook or Onenote are much more and I remember days when MS Office cost 500 US$ and more…

Of course it’s great, if you could get it for a good price, but I would consider 30 or 40 Euros a price worth such a piece of software.

Chris

@Dan Bolling - Hey Dan, Omni never offered to do the task management for you. With OmniFocus, YOU get to determine the degree of efficiency YOU want to implement. OmniFocus simply provides the tools - the best tools in my opinion, but the rest is up to you. It’s the brush and polish, not the shoeshine boy.

We should have started emailing Apple to speed up approval on day one.  Funny to think ho

More work to do after approval…wasting my time checking app store ;(

Puppy…

BANG

Deader

Warned ya…

@Alexy - I was thinking the same thing.  I’m all for net-neutrality in terms of ‘giving us the pipe’ and letting us do with it what we want, etc.  But it sure seems that Apple would have a priority system where known quantity developers like Omni with a loyal (if a bit fanatical) user-base would have a faster track for approval.  It seems that would be in Apple’s best interest, too.

@Ken - It’s awesome that you’ve been on this thread so much today.  I have this picture of you as the only one of us who is looking at his tasklist ON HIS IPAD…  “Check Email to see if Apple approved the app yet.”  x100…  And laughing.  Good on you!

@Dan—the image of Ken anxiously awaiting to check off his OF iPad with OF iPad availability DONE will be the stuff of a legend!  In fact, I’d like to make a professional high-res poster of that, with Ken in his captain’s cap, iPad in hand, OF on it, Seattle rain outside, the calendar showing today’s date!  Could sell in Omni store for $8.99.

Project Management is a vastly thankless task. It is often seen as an over head and usually people on the team see you as a cross between a fascist dictator and a bizarre nanny. Occasionally people appreciate being provided structure and order by pretty much never do you get any thanks.

It is up to you to thank everyone else and keep them happy and motivated, but there is no one to provide that to the PM. And if a PM were ever to throw even a fraction of the sort of tantrum or use some of the emotional terror tactics I have seen designers and developers use, and get away with, they would just be let go.

I am not suggesting that anyone commenting on this blog is that kind of person. And I am absolutely not suggesting anyone at TOG is like that. Not the case, not implying it, don’t think it.

What i am saying is that PM’s don’t get a lot of respect for what is a technically difficult, emotionally and mentally challenging job that requires you to remain balanced and stable at all time. A fact that my husband thinks is hilarious given he seems me as something of a drama queen.

In this blog there have been a number of comments that “you cant estimate delivery”, and in my opinion thats rubbish. Yes you can estimate and while things can crop up causing you to need to re-baseline, but you can estimate and without a solid plan you are unlikely to deliver anything, except by chance, or at least not in a timely or cost effective fashion.

I would like to compliment Ken and his team because its clear that they have planned and worked hard to reach the goals they have set themselves. At a guess, too hard. Yes they had a glitch at the end of June, but they acknowledged it and (I suspect) internally re-planned and then worked their hearts out to achieve that goal.

They even recognised that to keep this vocal group of people happy by communicating informatively, often and well. Not repeating the mistake of giving an end date, but I think that was wise and understandable, but giving enough useful information to keep everyone in the loop.

So to all of you at TOG I say “well done”, and to your project manager I say “Well done mate, from what I can tell you are awesome”

Now to the “you cant estimate” crowd, you know who you are, I would like to say something.

On 06.29.10 2:32 PM I made comment on timing of the release. Before I did I developed a set of assumptions from what Ken had said, what I could glean about the company and average released time of applications. To that I added and set of my own assumptions based on experience. I took those and ran them through some standard modelling tools, e.g. building a presumed schedule, creating a top down rule of thumb estimate and then cross validating that using a bottom up three point estimating model.

What I got was about 3-5 weeks. Against that I factored Kens teams unhappiness that they had missed a publicly known target and so they would be going full steam to deliver. That caused me to estimate that it would be “a good four weeks off release”.

And here we are, exactly 4 weeks later and on the very eve of release (provided Apple don’t find any problems).

Yes, I know I am a self aggrandising git, with an over sized ego and distorted sense of my own self worth; and yes “I told you so” is a truly ugly phrase. But in this case I am not doing this for me, or to prove a point.

I am doing it because all of the “you cant estimate” crowd will work with project managers who have to deal with your attitudes on a day to day basis and it would be nice to think that by being right they might get just a little more respect, and even thanked occasionally for what is, as I say, a thankless task.

To all of the others on this thread, I apologise for being a pompous, overbearing fool. And again to the Omni Group team I give you my heart felt respect, and thank for what I am convinced, sight unseen, will be a bang up job.

I have spent the last week showing people your products and nagging them to purchase so hopefully you are going to see some extra sales. You deserve it.

Hey guys it´s great to hear all kinds of people having the same addictions problems. Someone should keep this thread and send it for a PhD dissertation data on rational? human behavior.

Enrique

@Robert while I will leave the determination of your “drama queen” status to your husband, I must agree with your points.  I work with several certified project managers - and given the right information they can do amazing things that make the rest of us look good.  And they are rarely thanked.

So here goes:  to all you PMs out there:  Thank You

Meanwhile, back at the omni ranch, Ken and his team continue to do their thing to produced some of the best products out there.  Thank you as well.

@ken Hopefully you will get approval.  The wait time will give you an opportunity to put together the screen cast.  Look forward to buying in the morning.

Realizing you’re a geek makes you already less of a geek :) the geek is oblivious of it

It’s like the trees and the woods, with all the organizing you do, you forget about the actual work :/

get movin’ apple…

It will be a free upgrade for the Omnifocus iphone users right?

I will be very dissapointed if it isnt considering the Omnifocus iphone app is pretty pricy to start out with

Today is the day. I can feel it. I got up this morning with a renewed sense of hope.
@ken publish the email or phone number of the folks at apple and put your loyal followers to work. We will do your evil bidding.
And you know it will get done because we will put in the inbox.

So while chewing my fingers to the bone (or rather wearing them to a stub refeshing iPad screen waiting for announcement of OF iPad release), I saw this tweeted story. I will no longer curse the Apple app vetting team…

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/29/millions_of_android_users_hit_by_malicious_data_theft_app.html

Ken, you mentioned that if Apple takes a long time to approve the app, that your team may reconsider the decision that was made about not showing screenshots and the like.

Any changes on that decision yet? ;-)

Please, let us know.

Jim

I had more or less decided to give up waiting - and go back to Things, as Things look a bit nicer and less complicated.

So, I fired up Things on my Mac and iPhone again - have not used them for many months since i switched to OmniFocus. Then - it hit me - Things does not sync via ‘the cloud’ - you have to be on a local LAN. With an iPad, iPhone, MacBook Pro and an iMac in daily use, that is a mess.

Things: Cmd-Q, I will keep waiting for OmniFocus for the iPad.

Michael

OK - the first time I read through this blog a few weeks ago I thought to myself - “Jeez - these people are losers, its a great program but just an app.”  I am now checking 2 or 3 times a day.  Do you all have a collective therapy bog I can join?  OmniShrink for Ipad?

Give me focus or give death!

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Focus,Focus—but there is no Focus. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of things to do! Our brethren are already in the field, Ken! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is omnifocus so dear, or a new app so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery to my to do list? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me omnifocus or give me death!

Patrick Henry, July 29th 2010

It could have happen if he was still alive. Right?

Do we have it yet?

“Realizing you’re a geek makes you already less of a geek :) the geek is oblivious of it.”

The word you are looking for is, ‘nerd’. The nerd is an oblivious geek. A geek can be anyone intelligent in a range of fields from one to many, and is quite often proud of such distinction. :)

“One direction we do Not want the computing world to tend toward is one where corporations mediate, without any external regulation or oversight, what software we can run on our systems!”

Or alternatively, we can say, “Apple will control Apple’s systems and if I want the freedom to do what I want, I’ll buy a different system.” No one forces anyone to buy an iPad. I like mine because I feel safe and protected by Apple’s governance model. That’s my choice and right. If I don’t like it, why should I expect Apple to change? I should alternatively wait for a Windows 7 tablet, or an Android tablet, and use that. One system uses one model, another system uses another. Pick what you want. It’s a free world. Don’t like Apple’s model? Don’t buy Apple’s iPad. We are talking about a piece of technology and software… not human rights.

Getting back on topic - push the go**amn button!!!  ;-)

there’d better not be a delay in it appearing in the Canadian store, or I’m gonna go nuts

ahhhhhhh so I can breathe easy and go watch a movie. Thanks, Ken! You’re awesome, your team is awesome. :)

I guess I’ll just go to work late tomorrow… or maybe just download it while I’m driving down the highway, since the 4GB size will do just fine on 3G!

:) Can’t wait!

I’m not a big fan of that particular argument. It’s akin to “If you don’t like the war then get out of my country”. One can vastly prefer the set of variables they have in a situation, but find one particular aspect of them to be alarming, without declaring the entire thing worthless and “move to another country” or in this case, buy an inferior piece of machinery running an inferior operating system. Advocate change or persistence in the things you care for, rather than ditching the things you care for at the first sign of disagreement on a part of that thing.

If Apple hypothetically turned into a system where all of its devices were mediated appliances instead of computers, I think that would be a very sad way to end things. I’d rather stick up for open computing and, yes, the risks that come along with that, than sit silent while a great OS and hardware platform gets subsumed by its own obsession with quality control.

Human rights, hardly, but Apple computers represent a major aspect of my daily productivity and livelihood, as I work in Mac software. It’s not slavery, but it isn’t avoiding a restaurant because they’ve started serving foi gras, either.

The dangerous aspect is that Apple is hardly the only one out there that would love a system of control like this. If they can make a buck conning people into being satisfied with mediated appliances, you can bet the alternatives you list will gradually wane into similar compromises.

Fortunately, jail breaking is now legal, as ruled by the U.S. law system, so at least there is that. :)

Can’t wait, Ken! I’m getting sick of reloading this thread. :)

Yippee!  Looking forward to waking up and entering a whole new world of getting things done.  Of course I’ll have to play with the new toy for awhile first.  I wonder how many of us will have OF alarms ringing at 9am EST/6am PST in the morning.  One here!

Congradulations Ken and your team! 

@amberV- I kinda agree with you.  fortunalty both sides kinda win.  If you like Apple’s model then you can just enjoy their products.  If not you get to Jailbreak.  That’s no so bad for Apple, because if something flakes out a bit because of the JB they don’t take the negative side of it.  The US government decision was significant, let’s hope it lasts.

T-05:38:01

@Flex, Andreas: 3pm CET indeed, great moment to start the weekend here in Europe

@Duncan: thanks for the help :)

Out on the west coast here pulling an all nighter just for this! Totally worth it considering all the all nighters they pulled for us!

@Ken: no sleeping neither? How many people are preparing the launch at this moment?

Wow Ken,

you really slept around 3 hours! Congrats!

Getting really excited right now.

T-3:00:00

Ken, can you disclose the price at T-02:36:00 ?

T-01:55:00

T-01:00:00 and I really shouldn’t be up till then but I’m getting other work done and it’s getting so much closer now… :)

T - 01:00:00

Great discoveries in history ........ Let’s take a look back

1. Columbus discovering the new world.
2. The car
3. The light bulb
4. The phone
5. The iPhone
6. Landing on the moon
7. The iPad
8. Omni focus for the mac
9. Omni focus for the iPhone
10. Omni focus for the iPad

Just to name a few. This was of course a survey of people on this blog only I am not sure if it is 100%  reliable. There may be a bias. What’s your order?

Im so excited…I might wee

What is more silly…waiting for software to get things done for your iPad or reading comments about other people who are not getting things done waiting for software to get things done on their iPad?  Oh…T-00:13:00 minutes.

@Andi

not just CET zone mate, there is global NGAD going on today!

http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnifocus-ipad/
:)

Ken,

I have been one of the masses watching this thread 20 times a day though never writing to it but as I think this might be closed in 3 minutes I wanted to say thanks. This app is the reason I bought an iPad and you guys have been great. Waiting to click buy!

@ TicToc

@Ken,

as a French Fan that has first bought a macbook then an Iphone and finally an Ipad just for stil being productive with OF… Well… I would really lik to thanks all the OmniTeam !!

er, guys… You did tick the box to make it available in other stores than the US one, didn’t you? Currently showing as “Not available in the UK iTunes Store”.

Doesn’t appear in Germany!

It’s not yet available in the US store either (as of 9:06a ET).

Website was launched @ 6am PT.

Download is going to be available tomorrow ....

Just showed up in the US store seconds ago - downloading now! ($39.99, folks - but worth every penny!)

Just entered my first task on Omnifocus for iPad: “Tell everyone how awesome this is” - and now that task is completed! Wow - look at how productive I’m being already!,, :)

Thanks Ken!

Omni-Guys, Thank you very much - great app at an affordable price. I’m looking to productive weekend ;-)

Greets from Switzerland (yes, it came to our store as well)
Thomas

Im dissapointed this wasnt an upgrade to the iphone version..40US is steep, even compared to the competition.

This is seriously making consider using Omni products in the future since they try to squeeze every dime out of you whenever possible.